An entertainment icon on living a life of meaning | Norman Lear

Translator: Katka Kostkova Reviewer: Martin Polakovič

Eric Hirshberg: So I assume that Norman doesn't need much of an introduction,

Eric Hirshberg: Predpokladám, že Norman nepotrebuje dlhé predstavovanie,

but TED's audience is global,

ale publikum TEDu je globálne a rozmanité,

it's diverse,

so I've been tasked with starting with his bio,

takže som bol poverený začať jeho biografiou,

which could easily take up the entire 18 minutes.

ktorá by sama o sebe kľudne zabrala celých 18 minút.

So instead we're going to do 93 years in 93 seconds or less.

Takže miesto toho skúsime vtesnať 93 rokov do 93 sekúnd alebo menej.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

You were born in New Hampshire.

Narodil si sa v New Hampshire.

Norman Lear: New Haven, Connecticut.

Norman Lear: V New Haven v Connecticute.

EH: New Haven, Connecticut.

EH: V New Haven v Connecticute.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

NL: There goes seven more seconds.

NL: Toto nám zabralo 7 sekúnd.

EH: Nailed it.

EH: Zaklincoval som to.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

You were born in New Haven, Connecticut.

Narodil si sa v New Haven v Connecticute.

Your father was a con man -- I got that right.

Tvoj otec bol podvodník – toto mám správne.

He was taken away to prison when you were nine years old.

Zavreli ho do väzenia, keď si mal 9 rokov.

You flew 52 missions as a fighter pilot in World War II.

V druhej svetovej vojne si odslúžil 52 misií ako bojový pilot.

You came back to --

Vrátil si sa späť –

NL: Radio operator.

NL: Rádio operátor.

EH: You came to LA to break into Hollywood,

EH: Prišiel si do LA, s cieľom preraziť v Hollywoode,

first in publicity, then in TV.

najprv v publicistike, potom v televízii.

You had no training as a writer, formally,

Nemal si žiadny formálny tréning,

but you hustled your way in.

ale prebojoval si sa dnu.

Your breakthrough, your debut,

Tvoj prelom, tvoj debut,

was a little show called "All in the Family."

bola malá show s názvom „Všetko v rodine“.

You followed that up with a string of hits

Nasledovala séria úspechov,

that to this day is unmatched in Hollywood:

ktorú dodnes nikto v Hollywoode neprekonal:

"Sanford and Son," "Maude," "Good Times,"

„Sanford a syn“, „Maude“, „Dobré časy“,

"The Jeffersons," "One Day at a Time,"

„Jeffersonovci“, „Po jednom dni“,

"Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman,"

„Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman“,

to name literally a fraction of them.

sú len malým zlomkom z nich.

Not only are they all commercially --

Nie sú len komerčne –

(Applause)

(potlesk)

Not only are they all commercially successful,

Nie sú len komerčne úspešné,

but many of them push our culture forward

ale mnohé z nich posunuli našu kultúru dopredu tým,

by giving the underrepresented members of society

že dali znevýhodneným skupinám spoločnosti

their first prime-time voice.

prvý raz priestor v hlavnom vysielacom čase.

You have seven shows in the top 10 at one time.

Mal si súčasne 7 show v rebríčku top 10.

At one point,

V určitom momente

you aggregate an audience of 120 million people per week

publikum 120 miliónov ľudí týždenne

watching your content.

sledovalo tvoje show.

That's more than the audience for Super Bowl 50,

To je viac ako publikum Super Bowl 50,

which happens once a year.

ktoré sa vysiela raz za rok.

NL: Holy shit.

NL: No do pekla.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

(Applause)

(potlesk)

EH: And we're not even to the holy shit part.

EH: A to sme a ani nedostali, k tej pekelnej časti.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

You land yourself on Richard Nixon's enemies list --

Dostal si sa na zoznam nepriateľov Richarda Nixona –

he had one.

on jeden taký mal.

That's an applause line, too.

To stojí za potlesk.

(Applause)

(potlesk)

You're inducted into the TV Hall of Fame on the first day that it exists.

Dostal si sa do televíznej siene slávy v prvý deň jej existencie.

Then came the movies.

Potom prišli filmy.

"Fried Green Tomatoes,"

„Smážané zelené paradajky“,

"The Princess Bride," "Stand By Me,"

„Princezná nevesta“, „Pri mne stoj!“,

„Hrá skupina Spinal Tap“.

"This Is Spinal Tap."

(Applause)

(potlesk)

Again, just to name a fraction.

Znova, to je len malý zlomok.

(Applause)

(potlesk)

Then you wipe the slate clean,

Potom si s čistým štítom

start a third act as a political activist focusing on protecting the First Amendment

začal kariéru politického aktivistu zameraného na ochranu Prvého dodatku

and the separation of church and state.

a odluku cirkvi od štátu.

You start People For The American Way.

Založil si „Ľudia na americký spôsob“.

You buy the Declaration of Independence

Kupuješ Deklaráciu nezávislosti

and give it back to the people.

a dávaš ju naspäť ľuďom.

You stay active in both entertainment and politics

Zostal si aktívny v zábavnom priemysle a politike

until the ripe old of age of 93,

až do zrelého veku 93 rokov,

when you write a book

keď si napísal knihu

and make a documentary about your life story.

a natočil dokument o svojom životnom príbehu.

And after all that,

A po tom všetkom

they finally think you're ready for a TED Talk.

si konečne pomysleli, že si pripravený na prednášku TED.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

(Applause)

(potlesk)

NL: I love being here.

NL: Som šťastný, že tu som.

And I love you for agreeing to do this.

A veľmi sa mi páči, že si s týmto súhlasil.

EH: Thank you for asking. It's my honor.

EH: Ďakujem za oslovenie. Je mi cťou.

So here's my first question.

Takže, moja prvá otázka.

Was your mother proud of you?

Bola na teba mama hrdá?

(Laughter)

(smiech)

NL: My mother ...

NL: Moja mama...

what a place to start.

to je teda začiatok.

Let me put it this way --

Poviem to takto –

when I came back from the war,

keď som sa vrátil z vojny,

she showed me the letters that I had written her from overseas,

ukázala mi listy, ktoré som jej zo zámoria napísal,

and they were absolute love letters.

a boli to úplné ľúbosté listy.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

This really sums up my mother.

Toto úplne vystihuje moju mamu.

They were love letters,

Boli to ľúbostné listy,

as if I had written them to --

akoby som ich písal pre –

they were love letters.

boli to ľúbostné listy.

A year later I asked my mother if I could have them,

O rok neskôr som sa mamy spýtal, či si ich môžem zobrať,

because I'd like to keep them all the years of my life ...

pretože som si ich chcel navždy odložiť.

She had thrown them away.

Ona ich vyhodila.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

That's my mother.

To je moja mama.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

The best way I can sum it up in more recent times is --

Najlepšie to môže zhrnúť v nedávnej udalosti –

this is also more recent times --

toto je tiež nedávna udalosť –

a number of years ago,

pred niekoľkými rokmi,

when they started the Hall of Fame to which you referred.

keď vznikla Sieň slávy, ktorú si spomínal.

It was a Sunday morning,

Bola nedeľa ráno,

when I got a call from the fellow who ran the TV Academy of Arts & Sciences.

keď mi zavolal chlapík, ktorý riadil Televíznu akadémiu umenia a vedy.

He was calling me to tell me they had met all day yesterday

Volal mi, aby mi povedal, že deň predtým mali stretnutie

and he was confidentially telling me they were going to start a hall of fame

a on mi dôverne volá, aby mi povedal, že sa rozhodli založiť sieň slávy

and these were the inductees.

a toto bol ich nábor.

I started to say "Richard Nixon,"

Začal som hovoriť „Richard Nixon“,

because Richard Nixon --

pretože Richard Nixon –

EH: I don't think he was on their list.

EH: Nemyslím si, že on bol na ich zozname.

NL: William Paley, who started CBS,

NL: William Paley, ktorý založil CBS,

David Sarnoff, who started NBC,

David Sarnoff, ktorý založil NBC,

Edward R. Murrow,

Edward R. Murrow,

the greatest of the foreign correspondents,

najlepší zahraničný korešpondent,

Paddy Chayefsky --

Paddy Chayefsky –

myslím, že najlepší spisovateľ, aký kedy vzišiel z televízie –

I think the best writer that ever came out of television --

Milton Berle, Lucille Ball

Milton Berle, Lucille Ball

and me.

a ja.

EH: Not bad.

EH: To neznie zle.

NL: I call my mother immediately in Hartford, Connecticut.

NL: Zavolal som okamžite mojej mame do Hartfordu.

"Mom, this is what's happened,

„Mami, toto sa práve stalo,

they're starting a hall of fame."

zakladajú sieň slávy.“

I tell her the list of names and me,

Povedal som jej všetky tieto mená

and she says,

a ona povedala:

"Listen, if that's what they want to do, who am I to say?"

„Počuj, ak to tak chcú, kto som ja, aby som sa k tomu vyjadrovala?“

(Laughter)

(smiech)

(Applause)

(potlesk)

That's my Ma.

To je moja mama.

I think it earns that kind of a laugh

Myslím, že si to zaslúži ten smiech,

because everybody has a piece of that mother.

pretože každý má kúsok takejto matky.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

EH: And the sitcom Jewish mother is born, right there.

EH: A práve sa zrodil sitkom Židovská matka.

So your father also played a large role in your life,

Tvoj otec zohrával v tvojom živote, tiež významnú rolu,

mostly by his absence.

hlavne svojou absenciou.

NL: Yeah.

NL: Hej.

EH: Tell us what happened when you were nine years old.

EH: Povedz nám, čo sa stalo, keď si mal 9 rokov.

NL: He was flying to Oklahoma

NL: Letel do Oklahomy

with three guys that my mother said,

s tromi chlapíkmi, o ktorých moja mama povedala:

"I don't want you to have anything to do with them,

„Nechcem, aby si s nimi mal čokoľvek spoločné,

I don't trust those men."

neverím im.“

That's when I heard,

Vtedy som počul,

maybe not for the first time,

asi nie po prvý raz:

"Stifle yourself, Jeanette, I'm going."

„Strč sa, Jeanette, idem.“

And he went.

A odišiel.

It turns out he was picking up some fake bonds,

Ukázalo sa, že bol vyzdvihnúť, nejaké falošné dlhopisy,

which he was flying across the country to sell.

ktoré išiel predať na druhú stranu krajiny.

But the fact that he was going to Oklahoma in a plane,

Ale fakt, že išiel do Oklahomy lietadlom

and he was going to bring me back a 10-gallon hat,

a sľúbil, že mi prinesie 10 gálonový klobúk

just like Ken Maynard, my favorite cowboy wore.

presne ako mal Ken Maynard, môj obľúbený kovboj.

You know, this was a few years after Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic.

Chápete, bolo to pár rokov po tom, čo Lindbergh prekročil oceán.

I mean, it was exotic that my father was going there.

Bolo exotické, že tam môj otec išiel.

But when he came back,

Ale keď sa vrátil,

they arrested him as he got off the plane.

zatkli ho, hneď ako vystúpil z lietadla.

That night newspapers were all over the house,

Večerné noviny boli všade,

my father was with his hat in front of his face,

môj otec mal pred tvárou klobúk

manacled to a detective.

a bol pripútaný k detektívovi.

And my mother was selling the furniture, because we were leaving --

A moja mama predávala nábytok, pretože sme odchádzali –

she didn't want to stay in that state of shame,

nechcela tam ostať v tej hanbe,

in Chelsea, Massachusetts.

v Chelsea v Massachussets.

And selling the furniture --

A predaj nábytku –

the house was loaded with people.

dom bol plný ľudí.

And in the middle of all of that,

A uprostred toho

some strange horse's ass put his hand on my shoulder and said,

mi nejaké hovädo položilo ruku na plecia a povedalo:

"Well, you're the man of the house now."

„Takže, teraz si pánom domu ty.“

I'm crying, and this asshole says, "You're the man of the house now."

Plakal som a ten debil hovorí: „Teraz si pán domu.“

And I think that was the moment

A myslím, že to bol moment,

I began to understand the foolishness of the human condition.

keď som si uvedomil bláznovstvo ľudí.

So ...

Takže...

it took a lot of years to look back at it and feel it was a benefit.

trvalo mnoho rokov, kým som sa vedel obzrieť a vidieť v tom pozitívum.

But --

Ale –

EH: It's interesting you call it a benefit.

EH: Je zaujímavé, že to nazývaš pozitívom.

NL: Benefit in that it gave me that springboard.

NL: Pozitívum v tom, že to bol odrazový mostík.

I mean that I could think

Myslím, že som si mohol myslieť,

how foolish it was to say to this crying nine-year-old boy,

aké blázivé to bolo, povedať 9 ročnému plačúcemu chlapcovi

"You're the man of the house now."

„Teraz si pánom domu.“

And then I was crying, and then he said,

A keď som plakal a on povedal

"And men of the house don't cry."

„Páni domu neplačú.“

And I ...

A ja...

(Laughter)

(smiech)

So ...

Takže...

I look back, and I think

Keď sa ohliadnem, myslím,

that's when I learned the foolishness of the human condition,

že vtedy som sa dozvedel o bláznovstve ľudí,

and it's been that gift that I've used.

a to bol dar, ktorý som využil.

EH: So you have a father who's absent,

EH: Takže si mal otca, ktorý tam nebol,

you have a mother for whom apparently nothing is good enough.

mal si matku, ktorej zjavne nič nebolo dosť dobré.

Do you think that starting out as a kid who maybe never felt heard

Myslíš, že to, že si ako dieťa mal pocit, že ťa nikto nevypočul,

started you down a journey

nasmerovalo to,

that ended with you being an adult

akým človekom si sa stal

with a weekly audience of 120 million people?

s týždenným publikom 120 miliónov ľudí?

NL: I love the way you put that question,

NL: Páči sa mi ako si položil tú otázku,

because I guess I've spent my life wanting --

pretože som tuším celý život strávil chcením –

if anything, wanting to be heard.

ak niečim, tak chcením, aby ma vypočuli.

I think --

Myslím –

It's a simple answer, yes,

Je to jednoduchá odpoveď, áno,

that was what sparked --

to bolo to, čo začalo –

well, there were other things, too.

boli tam aj iné veci.

When my father was away,

Keď bol môj otec preč,

I was fooling with a crystal radio set that we had made together,

hral som sa s kryštáľovou rádio súpravou, ktorú sme spolu spravili,

and I caught a signal that turned out to be Father Coughlin.

a chytil som signál otca Coughlina.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

Yeah, somebody laughed.

Áno, niekto sa zasmial.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

But not funny,

Bez srandy,

this was a horse's --

to bolo hovädo –

another horse's ass --

ďalšie hovädo –

who was very vocal about hating the New Deal

ktorý sa netajil tým, že nenávidel Nový údel

and Roosevelt and Jews.

a Roosevelta a Židov.

The first time I ran into an understanding

Prvý raz som si uvedomil,

that there were people in this world that hated me

že existujú ľudia, ktorí ma nenávidia,

because I was born to Jewish parents.

pretože som sa narodil židovským rodičom.

And that had an enormous effect on my life.

A to veľmi ovplyvnilo môj život.

EH: So you had a childhood

EH: Takže si mal detstvo

with little in the way of strong male role models,

bez veľkých mužských vzorov,

except for your grandfather.

okrem tvojho starého otca.

Tell us about him.

Povedz nám o ňom.

NL: Oh, my grandfather.

NL: Ó, môj starý otec.

Well here's the way I always talked about that grandfather.

O svojom starom otcovi som vždy hovoril takto.

There were parades,

Boli sprievody,

lots of parades when I was a kid.

množstvo sprievodov, keď som bol dieťa.

There were parades on Veteran's Day --

Sprievod na deň veteránov –

there wasn't a President's Day.

prezidentský deň.

There was Abraham Lincoln's birthday,

Narodeniny Abrahama Lincolna,

George Washington's birthday

narodeniny George Washingtona

and Flag Day ...

a deň vlajky.

And lots of little parades.

A množstvo malých sprievodov.

My grandfather used to take me

Môj starý otec ma na ne brával,

and we'd stand on the street corner,

stáli sme na rohu ulice,

he'd hold my hand,

držal ma za ruku

and I'd look up and I'd see a tear running down his eye.

a ja som sa pozrel hore a videl slzu, ktorá mu stekala po líci.

And he meant a great deal to me.

A to pre mňa veľa znamenalo.

And he used to write presidents of the United States.

Zvykol písať prezidentom Spojených štátov.

Every letter started,

Každý list začal:

"My dearest, darling Mr. President,"

„Môj najdrahší, miláčik pán prezident,“

and he'd tell him something wonderful about what he did.

a napísal mu niečo úžasné o tom, čo urobil.

But when he disagreed with the President, he also wrote,

Ale ak s prezidentom nesúhlasil, tiež mu napísal:

„Môj najdrahší, miláčik pán prezident,

"My dearest, darling Mr. President,

Didn't I tell you last week ...?"

Nepovedal som Vám minulý týždeň ...?“

(Laughter)

(smiech)

And I would run down the stairs every now and then

Z času na čas som utekal dole schodmi

and pick up the mail.

pre poštu.

We were three flights up,

Boli sme na treťom poschodí,

74 York Street, New Haven, Connecticut.

74 York Street, New Haven, Connecticut.

And I'd pick up a little white envelope reading, "Shya C. called at this address."

A doniesol som malú bielu obálku s textom: „Shya C. volal na túto adresu.“

And that's the story I have told about my grandfather --

A to je príbeh o mojom starom otcovi –

EH: They wrote him back on the envelopes --

EH: Oni mu odpovedali na obálky –

NL: They wrote back.

NL: Napísali mu naspäť.

But I have shown them myself,

Ale ukázal som ich osobne

going way back to Phil Donahue and others before him,

Philovi Donahueovi a mnohým pred ním,

literally dozens of interviews in which I told that story.

doslova tucty rozhovorov, v ktorých som hovoril tento príbeh.

This will be the second time I have said the whole story was a lie.

Toto bude druhý raz, čo som povedal, že celý príbeh bola lož.

The truth was my grandfather took me to parades,

Pravda je, že ma starý otec bral na sprievody,

we had lots of those.

tých bolo veľa.

The truth is a tear came down his eye.

Pravdou je aj slza, čo mu stekala po líci.

The truth is he would write an occasional letter,

Pravdou je, že z času na čas písal listy

and I did pick up those little envelopes.

a že ja som bol vyzdvihnúť tie malé obálky.

But "My dearest darling Mr. President,"

Ale „Môj najdrahší, miláčik pán prezident,“

all the rest of it,

a všetko ostatné

is a story I borrowed from a good friend

je príbeh, ktorý som si požičal od dobrého priateľa,

whose grandfather was that grandfather who wrote those letters.

ktorého starý otec, bol tým starým otcom, ktorý napísal tie listy.

And, I mean, I stole Arthur Marshall's grandfather

A myslím tým, že som ukradol starého otca Artura Marshalla

and made him my own.

a spravil ho svojim vlastným.

Always.

Vždy.

When I started to write my memoir --

Keď som začal písať svoje pamäti –

"Even this --"

„Aj to –“

How about that?

Čo tak?

"Even This I Get to Experience."

„Aj to som si zažil.“

When I started to write the memoir

Keď som začal písať svoje pamäti

and I started to think about it,

a zamyslel sa nad tým,

and then I --

tak som –

I --

ja –

I did a reasonable amount of crying,

riadne som si poplakal

and I realized how much I needed the father.

a uvedomil si, ako veľmi som potreboval otca.

So much so that I appropriated Arthur Marshall's grandfather.

Tak veľmi, že som si privlastnil starého otca Arthura Marshalla.

So much so, the word "father" --

Takže tak, slovo „otec“ –

I have six kids by the way.

mimochodom mám 6 detí.

My favorite role in life.

Moja najobľúbenejšia úloha v živote.

It and husband to my wife Lyn.

To a byť manželom mojej ženy Lyn.

But I stole the man's identity because I needed the father.

Ale ukradol som niekomu identitu, lebo som potreboval otca.

Now I've gone through a whole lot of shit

Prešiel som si množstvom sračiek

and come out on the other side,

a dostal sa až na druhú stranu

and I forgive my father --

a svojmu otcovi som odpustil –

the best thing I --

najlepšia vec –

the worst thing I --

najhoršia vec –

The word I'd like to use about him and think about him is --

Slovo, ktoré by som chcel použiť a aký si myslím, že bol –

he was a rascal.

je darebák.

The fact that he lied and stole and cheated

Fakt, že klamal, kradol a podvádzal

and went to prison ...

a išiel do basy...

I submerge that in the word "rascal."

Celé to zahŕňa slovo „darebák“.

EH: Well there's a saying that amateurs borrow and professionals steal.

EH: Hovorí sa, že amatéri si požičiavajú a profíci kradnú.

NL: I'm a pro.

NL: Ja som profík.

EH: You're a pro.

EH: Si.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

And that quote is widely attributed to John Lennon,

A ten citát je pripisovaný Johnovi Lennonovi,

but it turns out he stole it from T.S. Eliot.

ale ukázalo sa, že ho ukradol T.S. Eliotovi.

So you're in good company.

Takže si v dobrej spoločnosti.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

EH: I want to talk about your work.

EH: Chcel by som hovoriť o tvojej práci.

Obviously the impact of your work has been written about

Samozrejme o vplyve, ktorý tvoja práca mala, bolo napísaného mnoho

and I'm sure you've heard about it all your life:

a som si istý, že si o tom počúval celý život:

what it meant to people,

čo znamenala pre ľudí,

what it meant to our culture,

čo znamenala pre našu kultúru,

you heard the applause when I just named the names of the shows,

počul si potlesk, keď som vymenoval len zopár show,

you raised half the people in the room through your work.

polovica ľudí tu v sále vyrastala na tvojej tvorbe.

But have there ever been any stories about the impact of your work

Ale boli niekedy príbehy o vplyve tvojej práce,

that surprised you?

ktoré ťa prekvapili?

NL: Oh, god --

NL: Och, bože –

surprised me and delighted me from head to toe.

prekvapili a potešili od hlavy po päty.

There was "An Evening with Norman Lear" within the last year

Minulý rok vyšiel „Večer s Normanom Learym“,

that a group of hip-hop impresarios,

ktorý dala dokopy skupina hip-hopových impresáriov

performers and the Academy put together.

umelcov a [Filmová] Akadémia.

The subtext of "An Evening with ..."

Podtitul podujatia bol

was: What do a 92-year-old Jew --

Čo má spoločné 92 ročný Žid –

then 92 --

vtedy 92 ročný –

and the world of hip-hop have in common?

a svet hip-hopu?

Russell Simmons was among seven on the stage.

Russel Simmons bol na scéne.

And when he talked about the shows,

A keď hovoril o mojich show,

he wasn't talking about the Hollywood,

nehovoril o Hollywoode

George Jefferson in "The Jeffersons,"

George Jefferson v „Jeffersonovcoch“

or the show that was a number five show.

alebo o show číslo päť.

He was talking about a simple thing that made a big --

Hovoril o jednoduchej veci, ktorá spravila veľký –

EH: Impact on him?

EH: Dojem?

NL: An impact on him --

NL: Naňho veľký dojem –

I was hesitating over the word, "change."

Váhal som nad slovom „zmena“.

It's hard for me to imagine,

Je pre mňa ťažké si predstaviť,

you know, changing somebody's life,

chápeš, že mením niečí život,

but that's the way he put it.

ale tak to povedal.

He saw George Jefferson write a check on "The Jeffersons,"

Videl Georgea Jeffersona vystaviť šek

and he never knew that a black man could write a check.

a netušil, že černoch môže vystavovať šeky.

And he says it just impacted his life so --

A povedal, že to ovplyvnilo jeho život –

it changed his life.

zmenilo to jeho život.

And when I hear things like that --

A keď počujem príbehy ako tento –

little things --

drobnosti –

because I know that there isn't anybody in this audience

pretože viem, že v sále nie je nikto,

that wasn't likely responsible today for some little thing they did for somebody,

kto by dnes neurobil pre niekoho nejakú drobnosť,

whether it's as little as a smile or an unexpected "Hello,"

či už je to úsmev alebo nečakaný pozdrav.

that's how little this thing was.

Taká malá tá vec bola.

It could have been the dresser of the set

Mohol to byť kulisár,

who put the checkbook on the thing,

kto dal na scénu šekovú knižku

and George had nothing to do while he was speaking, so he wrote it,

a George nemal čo robiť počas monológu, tak vypísal šek,

I don't know.

neviem.

But --

Ale –

EH: So in addition to the long list I shared in the beginning,

EH: Takže k tomu dlhému zoznamu, čo som predniesol na začiatku,

I should have also mentioned that you invented hip-hop.

by som mal pridať, že si vynašiel hip-hop.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

NL: Well ...

NL: Tak...

EH: I want to talk about --

EH: Chcel by som hovoriť o –

NL: Well, then do it.

NL: Tak to sprav.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

EH: You've lead a life of accomplishment,

EH: Viedol si život, kde si dosahoval úspechy,

but you've also built a life of meaning.

ale tvoj život mal tiež zmysel.

And all of us strive to do both of those things --

A každý z nás sa snaží dosiahnuť tieto dve veci –

not all of us manage to.

nie každému sa to podarí.

But even those of us who do manage to accomplish both of those,

Ale aj tí, ktorým sa podarí dosiahnuť obe,

very rarely do we figure out how to do them together.

veľmi ojedinelo vedia, ako ich dosiahnuť naraz.

You managed to push culture forward through your art

Ty si dokázal posunúť kultúru dopredu cez svoje umenie,

while also achieving world-beating commercial success.

zatiaľ čo si mal komerčný úspech.

How did you do both?

Ako si to dokázal?

NL: Here's where my mind goes when I hear that recitation of all I accomplished.

NL: Toto mi napadne, keď počujem výpočet mojich úspechov.

This planet is one of a billion,

Naša planéta je jedna z miliardy,

they tell us,

to nám hovoria,

in a universe of which there are billions --

vo vesmíre, ktorých sú miliardy –

billions of universes,

miliardy vesmírov,

billions of planets ...

miliardy planét...

which we're trying to save

ktoré sa snažíme zachrániť

and it requires saving.

a ktoré vyžadujú záchranu.

But ...

Ale...

anything I may have accomplished is --

čokoľvek som možno dosiahol –

my sister once asked me what she does about something

moja sestra sa ma raz opýtala, čo má robiť s niečim,

that was going on in Newington, Connecticut.

čo sa dialo v Newingtone v Connecticute.

And I said, "Write your alderman or your mayor or something."

A ja som jej povedal: „Napíš starostovi alebo niekomu takému.“

She said, "Well I'm not Norman Lear, I'm Claire Lear."

A ona mi povedala: „Ale ja nie som Norman Lear, som Claire Lear.“

And that was the first time I said what I'm saying,

A to bolo prvý raz, čo som povedal to, čo hovorím vždy.

I said, "Claire. With everything you think about what I may have done

Povedal som: „Claire, ak porovnáš všetko, čo si myslíš, že som spravil,

and everything you've done," --

a všetko, čo si spravila ty,“ –

she never left Newington --

nikdy neopustila Newington –

"can you get your fingers close enough

„a ak zvážiš veľkosť našej planéte

when you consider the size of the planet and so forth,

a porovnáš, čo si myslíš, že som urobil, a čo si urobila ty,

to measure anything I may have done to anything you may have done?"

je to takto blízko.“

So ...

Takže...

I am convinced we're all responsible

Som presvedčený, že sme všetci zodpovední

for doing as much as I may have accomplished.

za to, aby sme urobili toľko, ako som mohol urobiť ja.

And I understand what you're saying --

A chápem, čo hovoríš –

EH: It's an articulate deflection --

EH: To je naozaj vyhýbavá odpoveď –

NL: But you have to really buy into the size and scope

NL: Ale musíš si naozaj uvedomiť veľkosť a rozsah

of the creator's enterprise, here.

tvorcovho plánu.

EH: But here on this planet you have really mattered.

EH: Ale tu na tejto planéte na tebe naozaj záležalo.

NL: I'm a son of a gun.

NL: Som naničhodník.

(Laughter)

(smiech)

EH: So I have one more question for you.

EH: Tak mám ešte jednu otázku.

How old do you feel?

Na koľko rokov sa cítiš?

NL: I am the peer of whoever I'm talking to.

NL: Som rovesník kohokoľvek, s kým sa rozprávam.

EH: Well, I feel 93.

EH: Ja sa cítim na 93.

(Applause)

(potlesk)

NL: We out of here?

NL: Skončili sme?

EH: Well, I feel 93 years old,

EH: Cítim sa na 93,

but I hope to one day feel as young as the person I'm sitting across from.

ale verím, že raz sa budem cítiť tak mlado, ako osoba, oproti ktorej sedím.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Dámy a páni,

the incomparable Norman Lear.

jedinečný Norman Lear.

(Applause)

(potlesk)

NL: Thank you.

NL: Ďakujem.

(Applause)

(potlesk)