John Maeda: My journey in design, from tofu to RISD

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Translator: Karlis Ceske Reviewer: Natalja Gorohova
00:16
I'm kind of tired of talking about simplicity, actually,
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Man tā kā ir apnicis runāt par vienkāršību
00:19
so I thought I'd make my life more complex, as a serious play.
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tāpēc domāju, ka izveidošu savu dzīvi sarežģītāku, kā nopietnu spēli.
00:22
So, I'm going to, like, go through some slides
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Tātad es es jums parādīšu dažus slaidus
00:24
from way back when,
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no pagātnes,
00:26
and walk through them to give you a sense of how I end up here.
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iziesim cauri tiem, lai jūs saprastu kā es esmu šeit nonācis.
00:29
So, basically it all began with
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Tātad, pamatā viss sākās ar
00:31
this whole idea of a computer.
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ideju par datoru.
00:33
Who has a computer? Yeah.
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Kuram ir dators? Jā.
00:36
O.K., so, everyone has a computer.
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Tātad, visiem ir datori.
00:38
Even a mobile phone, it's a computer.
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Visiem ir mobilais tālrunis, tas ir dators.
00:40
And -- anyone remember this workbook,
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Un... vai kāds atcerās šo darba burtnīcu
00:43
"Instant Activities for Your Apple" --
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"Pirmie soļi darbam ar Apple"
00:45
free poster in each book?
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ar bezmaksas plakātu katrā grāmatā?
00:47
This was how computing began.
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Tā sākās datoru ēra.
00:49
Don't forget: a computer came out; it had no software.
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Atceraties? Kad tika izlaisti pirmie datori, tiem nebija programmatūras.
00:53
You'd buy that thing, you'd bring it home, you'd plug it in,
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Jūs to nopērkat, atnesat mājās, pieslēdzat to,
00:56
and it would do absolutely nothing at all.
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bet tā pilnībā neko nedara.
00:58
So, you had to program it,
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Tātad jums tā vēl bija jāieprogrammē.
01:00
and there were great programming, like, tutorials, like this.
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Bija arī lieliskas pamācības programmēšanā piemēram kā šī:
01:02
I mean, this was great.
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Tas bija lieliski.
01:04
It's, like, you know, Herbie the Apple II.
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Kā šis Apple dators Hērbijs.
01:06
It's such a great way to --
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Tas ir lielisks veids kā...
01:08
I mean, they should make Java books like this,
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Manuprāt, viņiem vajadzētu arī Java programmēšanas pamācības veidot pēc šīs grāmatas,
01:11
and we've have no problem learning a program.
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tad mums nebūtu problēmas to iemācīties.
01:13
But this was a great, grand time of the computer,
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Bet kopumā tas bija lielisks laiks datoriem,
01:15
when it was just a raw, raw, what is it? kind of an era.
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kad viss bija tik jēls, jēls, kā to lai nosauc? Tāda kā ēra.
01:19
And, you see,
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Redziet,
01:22
this era coincided with my own childhood.
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šī ēra sakrita tieši ar manu bērnības laiku.
01:24
I grew up in a tofu factory in Seattle.
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Es izaugu tofu (sojas biezpiens) rūpnīcā Sietlā.
01:27
Who of you grew up in a family business,
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Kurš no jums vēl ir audzis līdzās ģimenes rūpalai...
01:30
suffered the torture? Yes, yes.
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...un cietis mokas? Jā, jā.
01:32
The torture was good. Wasn't it good torture?
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Mokas bija labas. Vai ne?
01:35
It was just life-changing, you know. And so, in my life, you know, I was in the tofu;
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Tas bija ļoti pamācoši. Tātad, mana dzīve, ziniet, bija par un ap tofu;
01:38
it was a family business.
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tāds bija ģimenes uzņēmums.
01:40
And my mother was a kind of a designer, also.
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Mana māte arī bija nedaudz dizainere.
01:43
She'd make this kind of, like, wall of tofu cooking,
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Viņa veidoja tādu kā sienu par tofu gatavošanu,
01:46
and it would confuse the customers,
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taču tā mulsināja klientus,
01:48
because they all thought it was a restaurant.
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jo visi domāja, ka tur ir restorāns.
01:50
A bad sort of branding thing, or whatever.
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lai nu kā — slikta reklāma vai kas tāds.
01:52
But, anyway, that's where I grew up,
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Taču tur es uzaugu,
01:54
in this little tofu factory in Seattle,
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tajā mazajā Sietlas tofu rūpnīcā
01:56
and it was kind of like this:
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tas izskatījās šādi:
01:59
a small room where I kind of grew up. I'm big there in that picture.
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maza istaba kurā es uzaugu. Šajā bildē esmu jau liels.
02:02
That's my dad. My dad was kind of like MacGyver, really:
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Lūk, mans tētis. Mans tētis bija kā Makgaivers, patiešām:
02:05
he would invent, like, ways to make things heavy.
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viņš izgudroja kā lietas padarīt smagākas.
02:08
Like back here, there's like, concrete block technology here,
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Šeit redzam betona bloku tehnoloģiju
02:11
and he would need the concrete blocks to press the tofu,
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viņam vajadzēja betona blokus, lai noslogotu tofu
02:14
because tofu is actually kind of a liquidy type of thing,
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tāpēc, ka tofu patiesībā ir pašķidra lieta
02:17
and so you have to have heavy stuff
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un vajag smagumu,
02:19
to push out the liquid and make it hard.
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lai izspiestu lieko šķidrumu un padarītu to cietu.
02:21
Tofu comes out in these big batches,
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Beigās tofu sanāk šādos lielos gabalos
02:24
and my father would sort of cut them by hand.
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un tēvs tos grieza ar rokām.
02:27
I can't tell you -- family business story: you'd understand this --
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Es nevaru izstāstīt visu stāstu par ģimenes uzņēmumu, jūs to nesapratīsiet.
02:30
my father was the most sincere man possible.
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Mans tēvs bija patiešām sirsnīgs cilvēks.
02:33
He walked into a Safeway once on a rainy day,
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Reiz, kādā lietainā dienā viņš iegāja Safeway lielveikalā
02:36
slipped, broke his arm, rushed out:
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paslīdēja, salauza roku un aizsteidzās prom,
02:38
he didn't want to inconvenience Safeway.
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jo viņš negribēja veikalam sagādāt problēmas.
02:41
So, instead, you know, my father's, like, arm's broken
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Tātad, manam tēvam bija salauzta roka
02:43
for two weeks in the store, and that week --
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un divas nedēļas
02:46
now, those two weeks were when my older brother and I
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mums kopā ar vecāko brāli
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had to do everything.
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nācās visu darīt tēva vietā.
02:50
And that was torture, real torture.
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Un tās bija mokas, īstas mokas.
02:53
Because, you see, we'd seen my father
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Jā, mēs bijām redzējuši kā tēvs
02:55
taking the big block of tofu and cutting it,
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griež lielo tofu gabalu
02:57
like, knife in, zap, zap, zap. We thought, wow.
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nazis iekšā un šņik, šņik, šķik. Mēs domājām — oho, viegli!
03:00
So, the first time I did that, I went, like, whoa! Like this.
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Tā nu pirmo reizi nazis aizgāja šķībi.
03:03
Bad blocks. But anyways,
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Un sanāca nepareizi gabaliņi.
03:06
the tofu to me was kind of my origin, basically.
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Tofu bija mana pamatnodarbošanās
03:10
And because working in a store was so hard,
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Darbs noliktavā bija ļoti grūts,
03:13
I liked going to school; it was like heaven.
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tāpēc iešana uz skolu, bija ļoti patīkama.
03:16
And I was really good at school.
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Un man mācības padevās.
03:18
So, when I got to MIT, you know,
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Kad sāku studēt MTI...
03:20
as most of you who are creatives,
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Lielākā daļa no jums ir radoši cilvēki,
03:22
your parents all told you not to be creative, right?
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jūsu vecāki taču stāstīja jums, lai neesat radoši, vai ne?
03:25
So, same way, you know,
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Man bija tieši tāpat.
03:27
I was good at art and good at math, and my father says, he's --
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man labi padevās māksla un matemātika, bet tēvs teica:
03:29
John's good at math.
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Džonam labi padodas matemātika.
03:31
I went to MIT, did my math,
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Es devos uz MTI, mācījos matemātiku,
03:33
but I had this wonderful opportunity,
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taču man bija lieliskas iespējas,
03:35
because computers had just become visual.
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jo tikko sāka parādīties pirmie datori,
03:38
The Apple -- Macintosh just came out;
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un iznāca pirmais Apple Macintosh dators;
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I had a Mac in hand when I went to MIT.
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Man rokās bija "Maks" un es devos uz MTI
03:42
And it was a time when a guy who, kind of,
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Tas bija laiks, kad varēja
03:44
could cross the two sides --
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nošaut divus zaķus ar vienu šāvienu.
03:46
it was a good time.
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Tas bija labs laiks.
03:48
And so, I remember that my first major piece of software
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Es atceros savu pirmo programmu
03:51
was on a direct copy of then-Aldus PageMaker.
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tā bija Aldus PageMaker tiešā kopija
03:54
I made a desktop publishing system way back when,
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Es izveidoju darbvirsmas publicēšanas sistēmu.
03:57
and that was, kind of, my first step into figuring out how to --
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Tas bija mans pirmais solis, lai atklātu
04:00
oh, these two sides are kind of fun to mix.
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ka šīs abas puses ir savienojamas patīkamā veidā.
04:02
And the problem when you're younger --
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Kad esi jauns, galvenā problēma ir,
04:04
for all you students out there --
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arī turienes studentiem,
04:06
is, your head gets kind of big really easy.
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tu ātri paliec iedomīgs.
04:09
And when I was making icons, I was, like,
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Kad es veidoju ikonas, es pat biju
04:11
the icon master,
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tāds kā 'ikonu meistars',
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and I was, like, yeah, I'm really good at this, you know.
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Man šķita, jā, man ļoti labi sanāk!
04:15
And then luckily, you know,
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Tad, par laimi,
04:17
I had the fortune of going to something called a library,
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man bija iespēja nonākt vietā, ko sauc par bibliotēku.
04:20
and in the library I came upon this very book.
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Un bibliotēkā es uzdūros šajai īpašai grāmatai.
04:23
I found this book. It's called,
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Es atradu šo grāmatu. Tā saucas
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"Thoughts on Design," by a man named Paul Rand.
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"Dizaina domāšana", to sarakstījis Pols Rends.
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It's a little slim volume; I'm not sure if you've seen this.
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Tā ir plāna grāmatiņa, domāju, ka neesat to redzējuši.
04:30
It's a very nice little book. It's about this guy, Paul Rand,
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Tā ir jauka maza grāmatiņa. Tā ir par šo puisi Polu Rendu,
04:33
who was one of the greatest graphic designers,
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kurš bija viens no izcilākajiem grafiskajiem dizaineriem,
04:35
and also a great writer as well.
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un arī liels rakstnieks.
04:37
And when I saw this man's work,
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Man ieraugot šī vīra darbus,
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I realized how bad I was at design,
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es sapratu, cik mans dizains vai tas.
04:42
or whatever I called it back then,
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ko es tobrīd tā saucu, tomēr ir slikts.
04:44
and I suddenly had a kind of career goal,
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un pēkšņi pār mani nāca karjeras atklāsme,
04:46
kind of in hot pursuit.
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strauji, kā tādā trakā skrējienā.
04:50
So I kind of switched. I went to MIT, finished.
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Tad es pārslēdzos. Es gāju uz MTI, pabeidzu to.
04:54
I got my masters, and then went to art school after that.
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Saņēmu diplomu un tad devos uz mākslas skolu.
04:58
And just began to design stuff,
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Tad sāku veidot dizainu tādām lietām,
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like chopstick wrappers, napkins, menus -- whatever I could get a handle on:
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kā ēdamo irbuļu iepakojumi, galda salvetes, ēdienkartes vārdu sakot, visu ko vajadzēja.
05:02
sort of wheel-and-deal, move up in the design world, whatever.
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Tāds sākums, virzoties augšup dizaina pasaulē.
05:05
And isn't it that strange moment when you publish your design?
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Vai tas nav dīvains brīdis, kad tu savu dizainu nodod publikai?
05:08
Remember that moment -- publishing your designs?
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Atcerieties to brīdi — sava dizaina publicēšana?
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Remember that moment? It felt so good, didn't it?
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Atcerieties to brīdi? Tā bija tik laba sajūta, vai ne?
05:13
So, I was published, you know,
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Tātad, mans dizains tika nopublicēts.
05:14
so, wow, my design's in a book, you know?
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Oho, mans dizains grāmatā!
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After that, things kind of got strange,
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Pēc tā, lietas sarežģījās
05:18
and I got thinking about the computer,
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un es domāju par datoriem,
05:20
because the computer to me always, kind of, bothered me.
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tāpēc, ka datori man vienmēr savā ziņā ir raisījuši bažas.
05:23
I didn't quite get it. And Paul Rand
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Es to īsti nesapratu. Un Pols Rands
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was a kind of crusty designer,
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bija īgns dizaineris,
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you know, a crusty designer, like a good -- kind of like a good French bread?
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Saprotat? Īgns dizaineris, tāds kā laba franču maize — ar cietu garozu.
05:31
You know, he wrote in one of his books:
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Viņš rakstīja vienā no savām grāmatām:
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"A Yale student once said,
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Kāds Jēlas students reiz teicis:
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'I came here to learn how to design, not how to use a computer.'
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"Esmu šeit lai mācītos dizainu, nevis kā apieties ar datoru".
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Design schools take heed."
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Dizaina skolas tam sāk pievērst uzmanību.
05:40
This is in the '80s,
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Tas ir astoņdesmitajos,
05:42
in the great clash of computer/non-computer people.
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laikā, kad nav vienprātības starp datoru atbalstītājiem un to pretiniekiem.
05:45
A very difficult time, actually.
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Patiesībā, ļoti smags laiks.
05:47
And this to me was an important message from Rand.
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Un šī ziņa no Randa man bija ļoti svarīga.
05:51
And so I began to sort of mess with the computer at the time.
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Tā nu es sāku šķetināt tajā laikā esošo datoru jucekli.
05:54
This is the first sort of play thing I did, my own serious play.
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Pirmā nopietnā lieta, ko izdarīju,
05:57
I built a working version of an Adobe Illustrator-ish thing.
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bija Adobe Illustrator analogas versijas izveide.
06:01
It looks like Illustrator; it can, like, draw.
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Tas izskatījās kā Ilustrator, ar to varēja zīmēt.
06:03
It was very hard to make this, actually.
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Patiesībā, to izveidot bija ļoti grūti.
06:05
It took a month to make this part.
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Bija vajadzīgs mēnesis, lai izveidotu šo sadaļu.
06:07
And then I thought, what if I added this feature,
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Tad es domāju, ja nu es pievienoto šo iespēju,
06:09
where I can say, this point,
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ar kuru šim punktam
06:11
you can fly like a bird. You're free, kind of thing.
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pateikt: tagad lido kā putns, tu esi brīvs.
06:14
So I could, sort of, change the kind of stability
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Tā nu es izmainīju tik pierasto nekustīgumu ekrānā
06:18
with a little control there on the dial,
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un ar vienkāršu darbību
06:20
and I can sort of watch it flip around.
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varēju apskatīt kā tas kustas.
06:22
And this is in 1993.
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Un tas bija 1993.
06:25
And when my professors saw this, they were very upset at me.
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Kad to ieraudzīja mani pasniedzēji, viņi ar mani bija ļoti neapmierināti
06:29
They were saying, Why's it moving?
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"Kāpēc tas kustas," viņi teica.
06:32
They were saying, Make it stop now.
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Viņi teica: izdari tā lai tas apstājas!
06:35
Now, I was saying, Well, that's the whole point: it's moving.
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Es viņiem teicu: nu tur jau tā lieta, ka tas kustas!
06:37
And he says, Well, when's it going to stop?
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Un tad viņš teica: nu labi, bet kad tas apstāsies?
06:39
And I said, Never.
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Es teicu: nekad!
06:40
And he said, Even worse. Stop it now.
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Un viņš teica: vēl sliktāk, tūlīt pat apturi.
06:43
I started studying this whole idea,
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Es sāku studēt šo ideju
06:45
of like, what is this computer? It's a strange medium.
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par to kas ir dators. Tas ir dīvains mēdijs.
06:48
It's not like print. It's not like video.
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Tā nav izdruka. Tas nav video.
06:51
It lasts forever. It's a very strange medium.
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tas ilgst mūžību. Tāds ļoti dīvains mēdijs.
06:54
So, I went off with this,
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Tātad es biju beidzis šo
06:56
and began to look for things even more.
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un sācis meklēt lielākas lietas.
06:58
And so in Japan, I began to experiment with people.
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Japānā es sāku eksperimentēt ar cilvēkiem.
07:01
This is actually bad: human experiments.
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Tas ir slikti: eksperimentēt ar cilvēkiem.
07:04
I would do these things where I'd have students become pens:
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Mani studenti kļuva par pildspalvām,
07:07
there's blue pen, red pen, green pen, black pen.
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tur ir zila, sarkana, zaļa, un melna pildspalva.
07:10
And someone sits down and draws a picture.
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Un kāds apsēžas un zīmē zīmējumu.
07:18
They're laughing because he said,
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Viņi smejas, tāpēc ka viņam tika teikts,
07:20
draw from the middle-right to the middle, and he kind of messed up.
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ka jāzīmē lapas vidū no labās puses uz vidu, viņš to nebija sapratis.
07:23
See, humans don't know how to take orders;
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Redziet, cilvēki nemāk uzklausīt pavēles.
07:25
the computer's so good at it.
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Datoriem tas sanāk labāk.
07:27
This guy figured out how to get the computer to draw with two pens at once:
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Šis puisis izdomāja kā piedabūt datoru zīmēt ar divām līnijās reizē.
07:30
you know, you, pen, do this, and you, pen, do this.
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Sapratāt? Tu pildspalva dari šo, tu pildspalva to.
07:33
And so began to have multiple pens on the page --
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Tā mēs ieguvām vairākas līnijas vienā lapā.
07:36
again, hard to do with our hands.
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Ar rokām to izdarīt būtu grūti.
07:39
And then someone discovered this "a-ha moment"
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Un tad kādam nāca atklāsmes brīdis,
07:41
where you could use coordinate systems.
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ka varētu izmantot koordinātu sistēmu.
07:44
We thought, ah, this is when it's going to happen.
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Mēs padomājām, kad tas vēl notiks...
07:46
In the end, he drew a house. It was the most boring thing.
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Beigās viņš uzzīmēja māju. Tas bija ļoti garlaicīgi.
07:49
It became computerish; we began to think computerish --
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Viss palika ļoti datorisks; mēs sākām domāt datoriski.
07:52
the X, Y system -- and so that was kind of a revelation.
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X, Y sistēma — tas gan bija atklājums!
07:55
And after this I wanted to build a computer out of people,
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Pēc šī, es gribēju uzbūvēt datoru no cilvēkiem
07:58
called a human-powered computer.
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tādu kā cilvēkspēka datoru.
08:00
So, this happened in 1993.
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Tātad, tas viss notika 1993.gadā
08:04
Sound down, please.
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Lūdzu, nogrieziet skaņu!
08:05
It's a computer where the people are the parts.
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Tas ir dators, kura sastāvdaļas ir cilvēki.
08:09
I have behind this wall a disk drive, a CPU,
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Aiz šīs sienas ir diskdzinis, centrālais procesors
08:13
a graphics card, a memory system.
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videokarte, atmiņas sistēma.
08:15
They're picking up a giant floppy disk made of cardboard.
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Viņi paņem milzīgu kartona disketi.
08:18
It's put inside the computer.
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un ieliek datorā.
08:21
And that little program's on that cardboard disk.
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Un tur ir kāda maza programma
08:24
So, she wears the disk,
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kas atrodas disketē,
08:27
and reads the data off the sectors of the disk,
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nolasa datus no disketes sektoriem,
08:31
and the computer starts up; it sort of boots up, really.
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un dators ieslēdzas un ielādējas.
08:34
And it's a sort of a working computer. And when I built this computer,
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Tā nu tas dators darbojas. Kad uzbūveju šo datoru
08:37
I had a moment of -- what is it called? --
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pār mani atnāca kā to sauca...
08:39
the epiphany where I realized that the computer's just so fast.
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..epifānija, kurā es sapratu, ka dators patiesībā darbojas tik ļoti ātri!
08:43
This computer appears to be fast - she's working pretty hard,
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Arī šis, viņa strādā diezgan smagi,
08:47
and people are running around, and we think, wow, this is happening at a fast rate.
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un cilvēki skraida apkārt, liekas, oho, tas notiek tik ātri.
08:51
And this computer's programmed to do only one thing, which is,
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Šis dators tika ieprogrammēts tikai vienai darbībai, proti,
08:54
if you move your mouse, the mouse changes on the screen.
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pakustinot peli, peles novietojums izmainās arī uz ekrāna
08:57
On the computer, when you move your mouse, that arrow moves around.
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Datorā kustinot peli, kustas kursors.
09:01
On this computer, if you move the mouse, it takes half an hour
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Šajā datorā, pakustinot peli, vajadzēja pusstundu
09:03
for the mouse cursor to change.
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lai pakustētos peles kursors.
09:05
To give you a sense of the speed, the scale:
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Lai jūs aptvertu to ātrumu, salīdzinājumam:
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the computer is just so amazingly fast, O.K.?
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dators taču ir tik neticami ātrs, vai ne?
09:10
And so, after this I began to do experiments for different companies.
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Pēc šī es sāku eksperimentēt dažādos uzņēmumos.
09:13
This is something I did for Sony in 1996.
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Šo es darīju 1996. gadā uzņēmumam Sony
09:16
It was three Sony "H" devices
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Tās bija trīs Sony "H" ierīces,
09:18
that responded to sound.
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kas reaģēja uz skaņu.
09:20
So, if you talk into the mike,
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Ja jūs runājat mikrofonā,
09:22
you'll hear some music in your headphones;
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jūs dzirdat mūziku austiņās;
09:24
if you talk in the phone, then video would happen.
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Ja jūs runājat telefonā, tad redzams video.
09:26
So, I began to experiment with industry in different ways
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Tā nu es sāku eksperimentus ar industriju
09:28
with this kind of mixture of skills.
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ar savām dažādajām iemaņām.
09:31
I did this ad. I don't believe in this kind of alcohol, but I do drink sometimes.
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Es veidoju šo reklāmu. šo alkohola veidu es ne parāk cienu, bet dažreiz es mēdzu iedzert.
09:35
And Chanel. So, getting to do different projects.
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un arī Chanel. Nu pāriesim pie citiem projektiem.
09:37
And also, one thing I realized is that
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Vēl viena lieta, ko sapratu:
09:39
I like to make things.
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man patīk radīt lietas.
09:41
We like to make things. It's fun to make things.
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Mums patīk radīt lietas. Tas ir jautri!
09:44
And so I never developed the ability to have a staff.
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Es nekad neattīstīju iespēju strādāt ar komandu,
09:46
I have no staff; it's all kind of made by hand --
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man nebija komandas, viss tika radīts ar paša rokām
09:48
these sort of broken hands.
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tādām kā lauztajām rokām.
09:50
And these hands were influenced
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Un šīs rokas bija iedvesmojis
09:53
by this man, Mr. Inami Naomi.
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viens vīrs, Inami Naomi kungs.
09:56
This guy was my kind of like mentor.
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Šis vīrs man bija kā padomdevējs.
09:58
He was the first digital media producer in Tokyo.
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Viņš bija pirmais digitālo mēdiju producents Tokijā.
10:01
He's the guy that kind of discovered me,
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Viņs mani atrada
10:03
and kind of got me going in digital media.
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un ievadīja digitālājos medijos.
10:05
He was such an inspirational guy.
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Viņš bija tik iedvesmojošs cilvēks!
10:08
I remember, like, we'd be in his studio, like, at 2 a.m.,
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Atceros, mēs bijām viņa studijā ap plkst.2 naktī
10:11
and then he'd show up from some client meeting.
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un tad no kādas sanāksmes ieradās viņš.
10:14
He'd come in and say, you know,
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Viņš ienāca un teica:
10:16
If I am here, everything is okay.
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Ja jau esmu šeit, tad jau viss ir kārtībā.
10:19
And you'd feel so much better, you know.
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Un mēs uzreiz sajutāmies atviegloti.
10:21
And I'll never forget how, like, but -- I'll never forget how, like,
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Es vienmēr atcerēšos,
10:25
he had a sudden situation with his -- he had an aneurysm.
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viņam pēkšņi tika atklāta aneirisma,
10:28
He went into a coma.
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Un viņš nokļuva komā.
10:30
And so, for three years he was out, and he could only blink,
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Trīs gadus viņš bija uz gultas, viņš varēja tikai pamirkšķināt ar aci.
10:33
and so I realized at this moment, I thought, wow --
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šajā brīdī es sapratu,
10:35
how fragile is this thing we're wearing,
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cik trausla ir šī lieta, ko valkājam —
10:37
this body and mind we're wearing,
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šis mūsu ķermenis un prāts.
10:39
and so I thought, How do you go for it more?
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Un tā nu es sāku domāt,
10:41
How do you take that time you have left and go after it?
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kā izmantot lietderīgi šo laiku kas atlicis.
10:44
So, Naomi was pivotal in that.
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Naomi šis bija pagrieziena punkts.
10:46
And so, I began to think more carefully about the computer.
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Un tā par datoriem es sāku domāt vēl dziļāk.
10:49
This was a moment where I was thinking about,
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Šajā brīdī, es domāju
10:51
so, you have a computer program,
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ja jau datora programma
10:53
it responds to motion -- X and Y --
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reaģē uz kustību X un Y virzienos
10:57
and I realized that each computer program
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tātad katrai programmai
10:59
has all these images inside the program.
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tam vajadzētu būt iekšā.
11:02
So, if you can see here, you know,
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Ja jūs varat šeit redzēt,
11:04
that program you're seeing in the corner,
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šī programma stūrī,
11:06
if you spread it out, it's all these things all at once.
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ja to paplašina, visas šīs darbības notiek reizē.
11:09
It's real simultaneity. It's nothing we're used to working with.
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Tā darbība notiek vienlaicīgi. Ar šo mēs neesam pieraduši darboties.
11:13
We're so used to working in one vector.
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Mēs esam pieraduši darboties vienā vektorā.
11:15
This is all at the same time.
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Tas viss notiek vienlaicīgi.
11:17
The computer lives in so many dimensions.
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Dators dzīvo tik daudz dimensijās!
11:19
And also, at the same time I was frustrated,
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Turklāt, tajā pat laikā es biju neapmierināts,
11:21
because I would go to all these art and design schools everywhere,
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jo man gribējās apmeklēt visas tās mākslas un dizaina skolas
11:23
and there were these, like, "the computer lab," you know,
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jo tur bija tā sauktās "datorlaboratorijas".
11:26
and this is, like, in the late 1990s,
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Un tas notiek vēlīnajos deviņdesmitajos
11:29
and this is in Basel,
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Bāzelē
11:31
a great graphic design school.
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lieliskā grafiskā dizaina skolā,
11:33
And here's this, like, dirty, kind of, shoddy,
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panetīrā, pabriesmīgā,
11:35
kind of, dark computer room.
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patumšā datorklasē.
11:38
And I began to wonder, Is this the goal?
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Un es sāku domāt: vai tās ir mērķa piepildījums?!
11:40
Is this what we want, you know?
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Vai tas ir tas, ko gribējām?
11:43
And also, I began to be fascinated by machines --
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Vēl, es sāku apbrīnot mašīnas.
11:46
you know, like copy machines -- and so this is actually in Basel.
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es domāju kopējamās mašīnas. Tas viss notiek Bāzelē.
11:49
I noticed how we spent so much time on making it interactive --
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Mēs ļoti daudz laika mēs pavadījām, lai to padarītu interaktīvu
11:52
this is, like, a touch screen --
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tas ir tāds kā skārienekrāns
11:54
and I noticed how you can only touch five places,
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Un es ievēroju, ka lai to lietotu jāpieskarās piecām vietām,
11:56
and so, "why are we wasting so much interactivity everywhere?"
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un tā "Kāpēc mēs izniekojam tik daudz interaktivitātes?"
11:59
became a question. And also, the sound:
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kļuva par jautājumu. Un arī skaņa:
12:02
I discovered I can make my ThinkPad pretend it's a telephone.
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es atklāju, ka varu izlikties, ka mans ThinkPad ir tālrunis.
12:07
You get it? No? O.K.
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Jūs sapratāt? Nē? Nu labi.
12:09
And also, I discovered in Logan airport,
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Un vēl Logana lidostā es atklāju,
12:12
this was, like, calling out to me.
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ka tas sāk mani saukt.
12:20
Do you hear that? It's like cows. This is at 4 a.m. at Logan.
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Dzirdat? Kā govis. Tas ir plkst.4.00 no rīta.
12:23
So, I was wondering, like,
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Tā nu es domāju,
12:25
what is this thing in front of me, this computer thing?
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kas tā par lietu ir man priekšā, šis "dators".
12:28
It didn't make any sense.
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Tam nebija vairs nekādas jēgas.
12:30
So, I began to make things again. This is another series of objects
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Tā nu es atkal sāku radīt lietas. Šī ir cita produktu sērija,
12:32
made of old computers from my basement.
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kuras pamatā ir veci datori no mana pagraba.
12:34
I made -- I took my old Macintoshes
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Es paņēmu savu veco Makintošu
12:36
and made different objects out of them from Tokyo.
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un no tā izveidoju dažādus Tokijas objektus.
12:39
I began to be very disinterested in computers themselves,
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Datori, kā tādi, mani vairs neinteresēja,
12:42
so I began to make paintings out of PalmPilots.
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es sāku veidot gleznas no PalmPilotiem (plaukstdators).
12:44
I made this series of works.
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Es izveidoju šo darbu sēriju.
12:46
They're paintings I made and put a PalmPilot in the middle
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Tās ir manas gleznas un Palmpilots ir vidū.
12:49
as a kind of display that's sort of thinking,
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kā displejs kas ir domāšanas veids.
12:51
I'm abstract art. What am I? I'm abstract.
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Es esmu abstraktā māksla. Kas es esmu? Esmu abstrakts.
12:54
And so it keeps thinking out loud of its own abstraction.
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Un tā tas turpina domāt skaļi par savu abstrakciju.
12:58
I began to be fascinated by plastic,
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Es sāku apbrīnot plastmasu
13:01
so I spent four months making eight plastic blocks
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Es pavadīju 4 mēnešus veidojot 8 plastmasas klučus,
13:04
perfectly optically transparent,
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tie ir perfekti optiski caurspīdīgi,
13:06
as a kind of release of stress.
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tas bija kā tāds stresa noņēmējs.
13:09
Because of that, I became interested in blue tape,
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Tāpēc mani sāka interesēt zilā līmlenta,
13:12
so in San Francisco, at C.C., I had a whole exhibition on blue tape.
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Sanfrancisko man bija vesela izstāde veltīta zilajai līmlentai.
13:15
I made a whole installation out of blue tape -- blue painters' tape.
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Es izveidoju veselu instalāciju no zilās līmlentas.
13:17
And at this point my wife kind of got worried about me,
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Mana sieva jau sāka par mani uztraukties,
13:20
so I stopped doing blue tape and began to think,
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es beidzu niekoties ar līmlentu un sāku domāt,
13:22
Well, what else is there in life?
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kas vēl ir dzīvē sasniedzams?
13:24
And so computers, as you know,
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Un tā datori,
13:27
these big computers, there are now tiny computers.
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šīs lielās kastes nu ir kļuvuši pavisam maziņi.
13:29
They're littler computers, so the one-chip computers,
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šie mazākie datori, ar vienu procesoru,
13:31
I began to program one-chip computers
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es sāku programmēt tos
13:33
and make objects out of P.C. boards, LEDs.
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un sāku veidot instalācijas no datora pamatplatēm un LED.
13:37
I began to make LED sculptures
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Sāku veidot LED gaismas skulptūras,
13:39
that would live inside little boxes out of MDF.
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kas dzīvoja mazās saplākšņa kastēs
13:42
This is a series of light boxes I made for a show in Italy.
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Šo sēriju es veidoju izstādei Itālijā.
13:46
Very simple boxes: you just press one button and some LED interaction occurs.
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Kastes ir ļoti vienkāršas, piespied pogu un dažas LED diodes iedegās.
13:49
This is a series of lamps I made. This is a Bento box lamp:
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Es veidoju arī šo lampu sēriju. Tā ir Bento lampa kastē.
13:52
it's sort of a plastic rice lamp;
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Tā ir kā rīspapīra lampa,
13:55
it's very friendly.
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ļoti draudzīga .
13:57
I did a show in London last year made out of iPods --
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Pagajušajā gadā man Londonā bija izstāde, veidota no iPod(-iem)
14:00
I used iPods as a material.
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Es izmantoju iPod kā materiālu.
14:02
So I took 16 iPod Nanos
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Es paņēmu 16 IPod Nano atskaņotājus
14:04
and made a kind of a Nano fish, basically.
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un būtībā uztaisīju tādu kā Nano zivi.
14:06
Recently, this is for Reebok.
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Šis ir nesen, tas ir Reebok.
14:08
I've done shoes for Reebok as well,
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Reebok(-am) es veidoju arī kurpes
14:10
as a kind of a hobby for apparel.
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tas man bija kā vaļasprieks.
14:12
So anyways, there are all these things you can do,
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Lai nu kā, visas šīs lietas var turpināt darīt,
14:15
but the thing I love the most is to
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bet visvairāk man patīk
14:17
experience, taste the world.
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iegūt jaunu pieredzi, izgaršot pasauli.
14:19
The world is just so tasty.
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Pasaule ir tik garšīga!
14:21
We think we'll go to a museum; that's where all the tastes are.
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Mums liekas ka, jāiet uz muzeju, tur ir visas garšas.
14:23
No, they're all out there.
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Nē, tās ir tur - ārā.
14:25
So, this is, like, in front of the Eiffel Tower, really,
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Tas ir kā šis: Eifeļa torņa pakājē,
14:27
actually, around the Louvre area.
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būtībā Luvras apkārtnē.
14:29
This I found, where nature had made a picture for me.
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To es sapratu, kad daba man parādija šo bildi:
14:31
This is a perfect 90-degree angle by nature.
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Tas ir perfekts 90 grādu leņķis dabā.
14:33
In this strange moment where, like, these things kind of appeared.
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Tas bija dīvains brīdis, kad tas viss notika.
14:36
We all are creative people.
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Mēs visi esam radoši cilvēki.
14:38
We have this gene defect in our mind.
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Mūsu galvās ir šis gēnu defekts.
14:41
We can't help but stop, right? This feeling's a wonderful thing.
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Mēs nevaram tur neko padarīt. Tā sajūta ir brīnišķīga.
14:44
It's the forever-always-on museum.
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Tas ir mūžīgi mūžos, kā muzejā.
14:47
This is from the Cape last year.
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Šis ir no Keipas pagajušgad.
14:49
I discovered that I had to find the equation of art and design,
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Man vajadzēja atrast mākslas un dizaina vienādojumu,
14:52
which we know as circle-triangle-square.
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zināmu kā aplis-trijstūris-kvadrāts.
14:55
It's everywhere on the beach, I discovered.
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Pludmalē tas bija man visapkārt..
14:57
I began to collect every instance of circle-triangle-square.
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es salasīju pilnīgi visus apļa-trijstūra-kvadrāta formas akmeņus.
15:00
I put these all back, by the way.
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Es viņus atlikšu atpakaļ!
15:02
And I also discovered how .
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Tad es atklāju,
15:04
some rocks are twins separated at birth.
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ka daži akmeņi ir dzimuši dvīņi, bet pēc tam nošķirti.
15:07
This is also out there, you know.
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Tāpat ir tur ārā.
15:10
I'm, like, how did this happen, kind of thing?
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Kā tas varēja notikt?
15:12
I brought you guys together again.
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Es jūs visus atkal savedu kopā.
15:14
So, three years ago I discovered, the letters M-I-T
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Pirms 3 gadiem atklāju, ka burtu salikums M-T-I
15:17
occurring in simplicity and complexity.
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parādās vārdos vienkāršība un sarežģītība
15:19
My alma mater, MIT, and I had this moment --
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Mana "Alma Mater" — MTI
15:21
a kind of M. Night Shayamalan moment --
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Tas brīdis bija kā režisoram un scenāristam M. Naitam Šeilamalanam,
15:22
where I thought, Whoa! I have to do this.
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es domāju, Ooo! Man tas ir jādara.
15:25
And I went after it with passion.
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Un es iekarsu.
15:28
However, recently this RISD opportunity kind of arose --
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Nesenā RISD (Rodailendas dizaina skola) man bija kā liela priekšrocība.
15:32
going to RISD -- and I couldn't reconcile this real easy,
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Strādāt RISD, nevarētu teikt, ka tas ir viegli.
15:35
because the letters had told me, MIT forever.
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Burtu salikums man visu laiku atgādināja par MTI.
15:39
But I discovered in the French word raison d'être.
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Es atklāju ka franču frāzē "raison d'être",
15:42
I was, like, aha, wait a second.
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man par pārsteigumu
15:44
And there RISD appeared.
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atkal parādās burti RISD.
15:47
And so I realized it was O.K. to go.
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Es sapratu, ka man tur ir jādodās.
15:49
So, I'm going to RISD, actually.
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Tātad, es strādāju RISD dizaina skolā
15:53
Who's a RISD alum out there?
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Kurš ir beidzis RISD?
15:55
RISD alums? Yeah, RISD. There we go, RISD. Woo, RISD.
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RISD absolventi? Jā, RISD labākie! Jē, RISD!
15:58
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Art Center -- Art Center is good, too.
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Piedodiet, piedodiet, Mākslas centrs arī ir labs!
16:00
RISD is kind of my new kind of passion,
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RISD ir mana jaunā aizraušanās,
16:04
and I'll tell you a little bit about that.
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pastāstīšu sīkāk.
16:07
So, RISD is --
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Tātad RISD ir...
16:09
I was outside RISD,
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Es tad vēl nestrādāju RISD
16:11
and some student wrote this on some block, and I thought,
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kāds students bija uzrakstījis uz sienas šo: RISB ir .....
16:13
Wow, RISD wants to know what itself is.
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Es nodomāju: Oho, RISD paši grib zināt kas viņi ir!
16:16
And I have no idea what RISD should be, actually,
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Man nav ne jausmas, kādai RISD būtu jābūt,
16:18
or what it wants to be, but one thing I have to tell you is that
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vai arī kāda tā gribētu būt. Bet man jāsaka,
16:21
although I'm a technologist, I don't like technology very much.
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lai arī esmu tehnologs, man tehnoloģijas ne visai patīk.
16:24
It's a, kind of, the qi thing, or whatever.
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tas ir kā ķīniešu akupunktūras meistariem.
16:26
People say,
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Ļaudis mēdz jautāt,
16:28
Are you going to bring RISD into the future?
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vai tu ievedīsi RISD nākotnē?
16:30
And I say, well, I'm going to bring the future back to RISD.
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Un es atbildu, Jā, labi, es ievedīšu RISD nākotnē.
16:33
There's my perspective. Because in reality,
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Tur ir manas jaunās perspektīves. Jo īstenībā,
16:36
the problem isn't how to make the world more technological.
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nav jau problēma padarīt pasauli tehnoloģijām bagātāku.
16:40
It's about how to make it more humane again.
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problēma ir padarīt to cilvēcīgāku.
16:42
And if anything, I think RISD has a strange DNA.
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Un ja kas, es domāju, ka RISD ir dīvains DNS.
16:46
It's a strange exuberance
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Tā ir dīvaina informācijas pārpilnība
16:48
about materials, about the world:
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par materiāliem, par pasauli.
16:50
a fascination that I think the world needs
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Es domāju, ka pasaulei ir vajadzīgs apbrīns
16:52
quite very much right now.
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tieši tagad, pat ļoti!
16:54
So, thank you everyone.
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Paldies visiem!
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