Our lonely society makes it hard to come home from war | Sebastian Junger

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: JY C. ๊ฒ€ํ† : Gichung Lee
00:13
I worked as a war reporter for 15 years
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์ €๋Š” ์ข…๊ตฐ๊ธฐ์ž๋กœ 15๋…„์„ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:17
before I realized that I really had a problem.
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š”์š”.
00:21
There was something really wrong with me.
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์ œ๊ฒ ์ •๋ง ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:23
This was about a year before 9/11, and America wasn't at war yet.
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9.11 ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐœ์ƒ 1๋…„ ์ „ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์•„์ง ์ฐธ์ „ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:27
We weren't talking about PTSD.
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๋‹น์‹œ์—” PTSD๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ํ”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
00:29
We were not yet talking about the effect of trauma and war
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ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ „์Ÿ์ด ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์—
์–ด๋–ค ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:34
on the human psyche.
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00:36
I'd been in Afghanistan for a couple of months
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์ €๋Š” ๋ถ๋ถ€๋™๋งน๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์—
00:38
with the Northern Alliance as they were fighting the Taliban.
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๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํƒˆ๋ ˆ๋ฐ˜๊ณผ ์‹ธ์šธ ๋•Œ์˜€์ฃ .
00:42
And at that point the Taliban had an air force,
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๊ทธ ๋•Œ ํƒˆ๋ ˆ๋ฐ˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ตฐ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:45
they had fighter planes, they had tanks, they had artillery,
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์ „ํˆฌ๊ธฐ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ํƒฑํฌ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋Œ€ํฌ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:48
and we really got hammered pretty badly a couple of times.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ฝค ์‹ฌํ•œ ํƒ€๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
00:51
We saw some very ugly things.
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๋”์ฐํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฉด๋„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
But I didn't really think it affected me.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์คฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
00:57
I didn't think much about it.
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๋Œ€๋‹จ์น˜ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:58
I came home to New York, where I live.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๋˜ ๋‰ด์š•์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
Then one day I went down into the subway,
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์ง€ํ•˜์ฒ ์„ ํƒ€๋Ÿฌ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๋˜ ์–ด๋Š ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ๋‚ 
01:04
and for the first time in my life,
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ
01:06
I knew real fear.
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์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๊ณตํฌ๋ฅผ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
I had a massive panic attack.
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์ €๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ณตํ™ฉ ๋ฐœ์ž‘์„ ์ผ์œผ์ผฐ์ฃ .
01:12
I was way more scared than I had ever been in Afghanistan.
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์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ฌด์„œ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:16
Everything I was looking at seemed like it was going to kill me,
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์ œ ์‹œ์•ผ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฟ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ์ฃฝ์ด๋ ค ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”.
01:19
but I couldn't explain why.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์ง€๋Š” ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:22
The trains were going too fast.
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์—ด์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋‹ฌ๋ ธ๊ณ 
01:24
There were too many people.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
01:25
The lights were too bright.
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๋ถˆ๋น›์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:27
Everything was too loud, everything was moving too quickly.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹œ๋„๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”์˜๊ฒŒ ์›€์ง์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:30
I backed up against a support column and just waited for it.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋‘ฅ์— ์ž ์‹œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ„ ์ฑ„ ๊ณตํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:35
When I couldn't take it any longer, I ran out of the subway station
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ฒฌ๋””๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๋ฉด ์ง€ํ•˜์ฒ ์—ญ์—์„œ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์™€
01:38
and walked wherever I was going.
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๋ชฉ์ ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•ด ๋ฌด์ž‘์ • ๊ฑธ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:41
Later, I found out that what I had was short-term PTSD:
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ํ›„์— ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹จ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ PTSD
์ฆ‰, ์™ธ์ƒ ํ›„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ์žฅ์•  ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:45
post-traumatic stress disorder.
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01:48
We evolved as animals, as primates, to survive periods of danger,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ, ์˜์žฅ๋ฅ˜๋กœ์„œ ์œ„ํ—˜์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ๋„๋ก ์ง„ํ™”ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋ฉด
01:52
and if your life has been in danger,
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์ต์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์†Œ์Œ์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:55
you want to react to unfamiliar noises.
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01:59
You want to sleep lightly, wake up easily.
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์„ ์ž ์„ ์ž๊ณ , ๊ธˆ๋ฐฉ ์ž ์ด ๊นจ์ฃ .
02:01
You want to have nightmares and flashbacks
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์•…๋ชฝ์„ ๊พธ๊ณ , ์ฃฝ์„ ๋ป” ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด
02:03
of the thing that could kill you.
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๋– ์˜ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:06
You want to be angry because it makes you predisposed to fight,
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ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์„œ ์‹ธ์šฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šฐ์šธํ•ด์ง€๋Š”๋ฐ
๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
02:09
or depressed, because it keeps you out of circulation a little bit.
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02:13
Keeps you safe.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ง€ํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ฃ .
02:15
It's not very pleasant, but it's better than getting eaten.
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์œ ์พŒํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ ๋จนํžˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹จ ๋‚˜์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
02:20
Most people recover from that pretty quickly.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํšŒ๋ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:22
It takes a few weeks, a few months.
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ, ํ˜น์€ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ์ด๋ฉด ๋˜์ฃ .
02:25
I kept having panic attacks, but they eventually went away.
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์ € ์—ญ์‹œ ๊ณตํ™ฉ ๋ฐœ์ž‘ ์ฆ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—” ๊ทน๋ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:28
I had no idea it was connected to the war that I'd seen.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ•œ ์ „์Ÿ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:30
I just thought I was going crazy,
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๊ทธ์ € ๋ฏธ์ณ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:32
and then I thought, well, now I'm not going crazy anymore.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋ฏธ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๊ตฌ๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:37
About 20 percent of people, however,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ฝ 20ํผ์„ผํŠธ ์ •๋„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
02:39
wind up with chronic, long-term PTSD.
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๋งŒ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ์žฅ๊ธฐ PTSD๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:43
They are not adapted to temporary danger.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ์‹œ์ ์ธ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ ์‘ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ 
02:45
They are maladapted for everyday life,
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์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์ด์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๋„์›€์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:48
unless they get help.
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02:49
We know that the people who are vulnerable to long-term PTSD
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์žฅ๊ธฐ PTSD์— ์ทจ์•ฝํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:53
are people who were abused as children,
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ํ•™๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
02:56
who suffered trauma as children,
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์–ด๋ ค์„œ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
02:58
people who have low education levels,
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๊ณ ๋“ฑ๊ต์œก์˜ ํ˜œํƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
03:00
people who have psychiatric disorders in their family.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘์— ์ •์‹ ์งˆํ™˜์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
03:03
If you served in Vietnam
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฒ ํŠธ๋‚จ์—์„œ ๋ณต๋ฌดํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
03:04
and your brother is schizophrenic,
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ˜•์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •์‹ ๋ถ„์—ด์ฆ์„ ์•“๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
03:07
you're way more likely to get long-term PTSD from Vietnam.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฒ ํŠธ๋‚จ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์œผ๋กœ ์žฅ๊ธฐ PTSD ์ฆ์ƒ์„ ๋ณด์ผ ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด ๋” ๋†’์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:12
So I started to study this as a journalist,
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์ €๋Š” ์ €๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:15
and I realized that there was something really strange going on.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ด์ƒํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
03:19
The numbers seemed to be going in the wrong direction.
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์ˆ˜์น˜๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์ด ์ข€ ์ด์ƒํ•ด๋ณด์˜€๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
03:22
Every war that we have fought as a country,
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๋‚ด์ „์„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋กœ์„œ ์ฐธ์ „ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ „์Ÿ์˜ ์ „ํˆฌ ๊ฐ•๋„๋Š”
03:24
starting with the Civil War,
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03:26
the intensity of the combat has gone down.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋‚ฎ์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:30
As a result, the casualty rates have gone down.
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๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ์ƒ์ž์˜ ์ˆ˜์น˜ ์—ญ์‹œ ๋‚ฎ์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
03:34
But disability rates have gone up.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์žฅ์•  ์ˆ˜์น˜๋Š” ๋†’์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:36
They should be going in the same direction,
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์›€์ง์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜์น˜๋“ค์ด
03:39
but they're going in different directions.
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์ •๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
03:44
The recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have produced, thank God,
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๋‹คํ–‰ํžˆ ์ตœ๊ทผ ์ด๋ผํฌ์™€ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„ ์ „์Ÿ์—์„œ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ƒ์ž๋Š”
03:48
a casualty rate about one third of what it was in Vietnam.
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๋ฒ ํŠธ๋‚จ ์ „์Ÿ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ์‚ฌ์ƒ์ž์˜ 1/3 ์ •๋„์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
But they've also created --
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์žฅ์•  ์ˆ˜์น˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ 3๋ฐฐ์— ๋‹ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
they've also produced three times the disability rates.
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04:03
Around 10 percent of the US military is actively engaged in combat,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตฐ์ธ์˜ 10ํผ์„ผํŠธ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ์ „ํˆฌ์— ์ง์ ‘ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:10
10 percent or under.
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10ํผ์„ผํŠธ ํ˜น์€ ๊ทธ ๋ฏธ๋งŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:11
They're shooting at people, killing people,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง์ ‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์˜์•˜๊ณ , ์ฃฝ์˜€์œผ๋ฉฐ,
04:14
getting shot at, seeing their friends get killed.
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์ด์— ๋งž๊ณ , ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:16
It's incredibly traumatic.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ์ฃ .
04:18
But it's only about 10 percent of our military.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ตฐ์ธ์˜ 10ํผ์„ผํŠธ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:20
But about half of our military has filed
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ „์ฒด ๊ตฐ์ธ์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜ ์ •๋„๊ฐ€
04:23
for some kind of PTSD compensation from the government.
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์ •๋ถ€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ PTSD ๋ณด์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:28
And suicide doesn't even fit into this in a very logical way.
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์ž์‚ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋…ผ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ์„ค๋ช… ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:34
We've all heard the tragic statistic of 22 vets a day, on average,
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์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ํ‰๊ท  22๋ช…์˜ ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ์ด ์ž์‚ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š”
04:39
in this country, killing themselves.
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๋น„๊ทน์  ํ†ต๊ณ„ ์ˆ˜์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
Most people don't realize
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
04:45
that the majority of those suicides are veterans of the Vietnam War,
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๊ทธ ์ž์‚ด์ž ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋ฒ ํŠธ๋‚จ ์ „์Ÿ ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค,
04:50
that generation,
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๊ทธ ์„ธ๋Œ€์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๋ฉฐ
04:52
and their decision to take their own lives actually might not be related
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50๋…„ ์ „์— ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ ์ „ํˆฌ์™€ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์˜ ์ž์‚ด ์‚ฌ์ด์—
์—ฐ๊ด€๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฐ•ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
to the war they fought 50 years earlier.
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05:01
In fact, there's no statistical connection between combat and suicide.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ „ํˆฌ์™€ ์ž์‚ด ์‚ฌ์ด์— ํ†ต๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
If you're in the military and you're in a lot of combat,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ตฐ์ธ์˜ ์‹ ๋ถ„์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ์ „ํˆฌ์— ์ฐธ์ „ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ 
05:07
you're no more likely to kill yourself than if you weren't.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ž์‚ดํ•  ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด ๋†’์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:11
In fact, one study found
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์–ด๋–ค ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์—์„œ๋Š”
05:12
that if you deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan,
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์ด๋ผํฌ๋‚˜ ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์— ๋ฐฐ์น˜๋œ ๊ตฐ์ธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
05:15
you're actually slightly less likely to commit suicide later.
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์ดํ›„ ์ž์‚ดํ•  ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด ๋ฏธ์„ธํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋‚˜๋งˆ ๋” ์ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:20
I studied anthropology in college.
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์ €๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์ธ๋ฅ˜ํ•™์„ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:22
I did my fieldwork on the Navajo reservation.
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๋‚˜๋ฐ”ํ˜ธ ์ธ๋””์–ธ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๊ตฌ์—ญ์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
05:25
I wrote a thesis on Navajo long-distance runners.
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์ €๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฐ”ํ˜ธ์˜ ์žฅ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์„ ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ๋ฌธ์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:30
And recently, while I was researching PTSD,
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์ตœ๊ทผ PTSD์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘
05:35
I had this thought.
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๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‚˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
05:38
I thought back to the work I did when I was young,
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์ Š์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ•˜๋˜ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
and I thought, I bet the Navajo, the Apache, the Comanche --
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์ €๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฐ”ํ˜ธ์กฑ, ์•„ํŒŒ์น˜์กฑ, ์ฝ”๋งŒ์น˜์กฑ์€
05:45
I mean, these are very warlike nations --
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์ด๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํ˜ธ์ „์ ์ธ ์ง‘๋‹จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
I bet they weren't getting PTSD like we do.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ PTSD์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:52
When their warriors came back from fighting the US military
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค ํ˜น์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€์กฑ๊ณผ์˜ ์‹ธ์›€์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ 
05:55
or fighting each other,
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์ง‘์— ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๊ทธ ๋ถ€์กฑ์˜ ์ „์‚ฌ๋“ค์€
05:58
I bet they pretty much just slipped right back into tribal life.
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์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ๋ถ€์กฑ์ƒํ™œ์— ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋…น์•„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:03
And maybe what determines
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์žฅ๊ธฐ PSTD๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋Š”
06:05
the rate of long-term PTSD
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋น„์œจ์„ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด
06:08
isn't what happened out there,
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'๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ๋Š๋ƒ'๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
06:11
but the kind of society you come back to.
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'์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌํšŒ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™”๋Š๋ƒ' ์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
And maybe if you come back to a close, cohesive, tribal society,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์ฒ™ ๋ˆ๋ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์‘์ง‘์ ์ธ ๋ถ€์กฑ์‚ฌํšŒ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ๋‹ค๋ฉด
06:20
you can get over trauma pretty quickly.
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ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ์—์„œ ๊ธˆ์„ธ ํšŒ๋ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:23
And if you come back to an alienating, modern society,
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๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์›๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์†Œ์›ํ•œ ํ˜„๋Œ€ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ๋‹ค๋ฉด
06:28
you might remain traumatized your entire life.
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๋‚จ์€ ์ƒ ์ „์ฒด์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•  ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ ์š”.
06:32
In other words, maybe the problem isn't them, the vets;
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๋ฐ”๊ฟ” ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
06:35
maybe the problem is us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:39
Certainly, modern society is hard on the human psyche
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ํ˜„๋Œ€ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ •์„œ์— ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:44
by every metric that we have.
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๋งž๋‹ฅ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฉด์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:49
As wealth goes up in a society,
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์‚ฌํšŒ๊ฐ€ ํ’์กฑํ•ด์งˆ์ˆ˜๋ก
06:53
the suicide rate goes up instead of down.
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์ž์‚ด์œจ์€ ๋‚ฎ์•„์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋†’์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:58
If you live in modern society,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ˜„๋Œ€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
07:00
you're up to eight times more likely
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๊ฐ€๋‚œํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋†์—… ์‚ฌํšŒ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋น„ํ•˜์—ฌ
07:04
to suffer from depression in your lifetime
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์ƒ์•  ์ค‘ ์šฐ์šธ์ฆ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›์„ ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด
07:06
than if you live in a poor, agrarian society.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿ๋ฐฐ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:10
Modern society has probably produced the highest rates of suicide
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ํ˜„๋Œ€ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ์ธ๋ฅ˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ƒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†’์€ ์ž์‚ด์œจ๊ณผ
07:14
and depression and anxiety and loneliness and child abuse
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์šฐ์šธ์ฆ๊ณผ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ณผ ์™ธ๋กœ์›€๊ณผ
07:17
ever in human history.
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์•„๋™ ํ•™๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:20
I saw one study
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ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:22
that compared women in Nigeria,
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๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์„ ๋น„๊ตํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:25
one of the most chaotic and violent and corrupt
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋ถ€ํŒจํ•œ
07:28
and poorest countries in Africa,
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์ตœ๋นˆ๊ตญ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ์ด ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ
07:31
to women in North America.
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๋ถ๋ฏธ์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์„ ๋น„๊ตํ–ˆ์ฃ .
07:32
And the highest rates of depression were urban women in North America.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†’์€ ์šฐ์šธ์ฆ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ๋ฏธ ๋„์‹œ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:37
That was also the wealthiest group.
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์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋Œ€์ƒ๋“ค ์ค‘์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ž˜ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:40
So let's go back to the US military.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตฐ์ธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
07:45
Ten percent are in combat.
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10ํผ์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์ฐธ์ „ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
07:47
Around 50 percent have filed for PTSD compensation.
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50ํผ์„ผํŠธ๊ฐ€ PTSD ์ฆ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ƒ์„ ์ฒญ๊ตฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:53
So about 40 percent of veterans really were not traumatized overseas
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40ํผ์„ผํŠธ์˜ ์ฐธ์ „์šฉ์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์™ธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ
07:59
but have come home to discover they are dangerously alienated
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๊ณ ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๋’ค ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•  ์ •๋„์˜ ์†Œ์™ธ๊ฐ๊ณผ
08:04
and depressed.
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์šฐ์šธํ•จ์„ ๋Š๊ฒผ์ฃ .
08:08
So what is happening with them?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
08:11
What's going on with those people,
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
08:14
the phantom 40 percent that are troubled but don't understand why?
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40%๊ฐ€ ํ™˜์˜์— ์‹œ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
Maybe it's this:
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๋žฌ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:20
maybe they had an experience of sort of tribal closeness
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋งˆ ํ•ด์™ธ์—์„œ ๋ถ€์กฑ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•˜๋“ฏ ๋™์ง€๋“ค๊ณผ
08:24
in their unit when they were overseas.
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์•„์ฃผ ๋ˆ๋ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋ƒˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:28
They were eating together, sleeping together,
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๊ฐ™์ด ๋ฐฅ์„ ๋จน๊ณ , ๊ฐ™์ด ์ž ์„ ์ž๋ฉฐ
08:30
doing tasks and missions together.
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๊ฐ™์ด ์ž„๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
08:33
They were trusting each other with their lives.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์„ ๊ฑธ๊ณ  ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:37
And then they come home
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง‘์— ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๋’ค์—๋Š”
08:38
and they have to give all that up
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๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
08:41
and they're coming back to a society, a modern society,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ํ˜„๋Œ€์‚ฌํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
which is hard on people who weren't even in the military.
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๊ตฐ์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ธ์—๊ฒŒ์กฐ์ฐจ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•œ ํ˜„๋Œ€์‚ฌํšŒ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
It's just hard on everybody.
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๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•œ ์‚ฌํšŒ์ฃ .
08:51
And we keep focusing on trauma, PTSD.
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ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ, PTSD์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
08:56
But for a lot of these people,
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
08:59
maybe it's not trauma.
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ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
I mean, certainly, soldiers are traumatized
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ตฐ์ธ๋Š˜์€ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒผ๊ณ 
09:03
and the ones who are have to be treated for that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
But a lot of them --
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
09:06
maybe what's bothering them is actually a kind of alienation.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ณต๊ท€ ํ›„ ์†Œ์™ธ๊ฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ดด๋กœ์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
I mean, maybe we just have the wrong word for some of it,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹๊นŒ์š”?
09:13
and just changing our language, our understanding,
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ  ์ดํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
09:15
would help a little bit.
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๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:16
"Post-deployment alienation disorder."
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'์ฐธ์ „ ํ›„ ์†Œ์™ธ ์žฅ์• '
09:19
Maybe even just calling it that for some of these people
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์ด๋“ค์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋งŒํ•ด๋„
09:23
would allow them to stop imagining
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์‹ค์ œ ๊ฒช๋Š” ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
09:26
trying to imagine a trauma that didn't really happen
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์—†๋Š” ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ 
09:29
in order to explain a feeling that really is happening.
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๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋  ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ๊ฐ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:32
And in fact, it's an extremely dangerous feeling.
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09:35
That alienation and depression can lead to suicide.
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์†Œ์™ธ์™€ ์šฐ์šธ์€ ์ž์‚ด๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ์ฃ .
09:37
These people are in danger.
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:39
It's very important to understand why.
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๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:43
The Israeli military has a PTSD rate of around one percent.
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ๊ตฐ์ธ์ด PTSD๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•  ํ™•๋ฅ ์€ ์•ฝ 1ํผ์„ผํŠธ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:47
The theory is that everyone in Israel is supposed to serve in the military.
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ตฐ๋Œ€์—์„œ ๋ณต๋ฌดํ•  ์˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ .
09:53
When soldiers come back from the front line,
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์ฆ‰, ์ „์„ ์—์„œ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค์€
09:55
they're not going from a military environment to a civilian environment.
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๊ตฐ์ธ ์‚ฌํšŒ์™€ ๋™๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๋ฌธ๋ช…์‚ฌํšŒ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
10:00
They're coming back to a community where everyone understands
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์‚ฌํšŒ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์› ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ตฐ๋Œ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ
10:05
about the military.
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๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:06
Everyone's been in it or is going to be in it.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ตฐ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜์ฃ .
10:09
Everyone understands the situation they're all in.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์†ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
It's as if they're all in one big tribe.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ํฐ ๋ถ€์กฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .
10:14
We know that if you take a lab rat
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์‹คํ—˜์‹ค ์ฅ์—๊ฒŒ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ 
10:16
and traumatize it and put it in a cage by itself,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์†์— ํ™€๋กœ ์ง‘์–ด ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด
10:20
you can maintain its trauma symptoms almost indefinitely.
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๊ทธ ์ฅ๋Š” ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์˜์›ํžˆ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
And if you take that same lab rat and put it in a cage with other rats,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์†์— ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฅ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋„ฃ์–ด์ฃผ๋ฉด
10:30
after a couple of weeks, it's pretty much OK.
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๊ฝค ํ˜ธ์ „๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:35
After 9/11,
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9.11 ์ดํ›„
10:38
the murder rate in New York City went down by 40 percent.
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๋‰ด์š•์‹œ์˜ ์‚ด์ธ์œจ์ด 40ํผ์„ผํŠธ ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:41
The suicide rate went down.
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์ž์‚ด์œจ ์—ญ์‹œ ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ์ฃ .
10:44
The violent crime rate in New York went down after 9/11.
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ํญ๋ ฅ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์œจ ์—ญ์‹œ ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
Even combat veterans of previous wars who suffered from PTSD
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด๋Š” ์ด์ „ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์œผ๋กœ PTSD๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๋˜
10:54
said that their symptoms went down after 9/11 happened.
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ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค๋งˆ์ € 9.11 ์ดํ›„์—๋Š” ์ฆ์ƒ์ด ์™„ํ™”๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:59
The reason is that if you traumatize an entire society,
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ํ•œ ์‚ฌํšŒ ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์œผ๋ฉด
11:04
we don't fall apart and turn on one another.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ผญ ๋ถ™์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ๋กœ ์˜์ง€ํ•˜๋ ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:07
We come together. We unify.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:09
Basically, we tribalize,
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๋ถ€์กฑ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •๊ณผ
11:11
and that process of unifying feels so good and is so good for us,
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๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ข‹์€ ๊ฐ์ •์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:17
that it even helps people
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด๋Š” ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ
11:18
who are struggling with mental health issues.
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๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:22
During the blitz in London,
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๋Ÿฐ๋˜์— ๊ณต์Šต์ด ์žˆ๋˜ ๋™์•ˆ
11:24
admissions to psychiatric wards went down during the bombings.
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์ •์‹ ๋ณ‘๋™์— ์ž…์›ํ•˜๋Š” ํ™˜์ž์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ค„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:30
For a while, that was the kind of country
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ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตฐ์ธ์ด ์ „์„ ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
11:33
that American soldiers came back to -- a unified country.
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์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋กœ ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋œ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:38
We were sticking together.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:39
We were trying to understand the threat against us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์œ„ํ˜‘์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:42
We were trying to help ourselves and the world.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ์™€ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:47
But that's changed.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋”์ด์ƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
Now, American soldiers,
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์ด์ œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ตฐ์ธ์€
11:52
American veterans are coming back to a country that is so bitterly divided
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ์€ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ๋กœ ์กฐ๊ฐ๋‚œ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:57
that the two political parties are literally accusing each other
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๋‘ ์ •๋‹น์ด ๋ง๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ
12:02
of treason, of being an enemy of the state,
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์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜์—ญ์ฃ„๋กœ ๊ณ ์†Œํ•˜๊ณ , ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ์ ์ด๋ผ ๊ทœ์ •ํ•˜๊ณ 
12:06
of trying to undermine the security and the welfare of their own country.
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๊ฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ์•ˆ๋ณด์™€ ๋ณต์ง€๋ฅผ ์•ฝํ™”์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:11
The gap between rich and poor is the biggest it's ever been.
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ๋Œ€์˜ ๋นˆ๋ถ€๊ฒฉ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:15
It's just getting worse.
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์ ์  ๋‚˜๋น ์ง€๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:16
Race relations are terrible.
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์ธ์ข… ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:18
There are demonstrations and even riots in the streets
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์ธ์ข…์ฐจ๋ณ„ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธธ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๊ฐ์ข… ๋ฐ๋ชจ์™€
12:21
because of racial injustice.
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด๋Š” ํญ๋™๊นŒ์ง€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:24
And veterans know that any tribe that treated itself that way -- in fact,
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ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ถ€์กฑ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ตด๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€์„œ๋Š”
12:29
any platoon that treated itself that way -- would never survive.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์†Œ๋Œ€๋ผ๋„ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:35
We've gotten used to it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ ธ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
12:36
Veterans have gone away and are coming back
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ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ž ์‹œ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ๋‹ค ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:40
and seeing their own country with fresh eyes.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ˆˆ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณผ ์ค„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:45
And they see what's going on.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:47
This is the country they fought for.
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์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‹ธ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:50
No wonder they're depressed.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ขŒ์ ˆํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์—ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:52
No wonder they're scared.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒ์„ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์—ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:55
Sometimes, we ask ourselves if we can save the vets.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ์„ ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๊ณ ๋ฏผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:00
I think the real question is if we can save ourselves.
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์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:03
If we can,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ตฌ์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
13:05
I think the vets are going to be fine.
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ํ‡ด์—ญ๊ตฐ์ธ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:08
It's time for this country to unite,
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์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ผ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋จ์„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:13
if only to help the men and women who fought to protect us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‹ธ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋ผ๋„ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:19
Thank you very much.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:20
(Applause)
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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