Rev. Tom Honey: How could God have allowed the tsunami?

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Prevoditelj: Mladen Barešić Recezent: Senzos Osijek
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I am a vicar in the Church of England.
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Vikar sam u Engleskoj crkvi.
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I've been a priest in the Church for 20 years.
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Svećenik sam u toj Crkvi posljednjih 20 godina.
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For most of that time, I've been struggling and grappling
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Većinu toga vremena, borio sam se i hrvao
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with questions about the nature of God. Who is God?
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s pitanjima o prirodi Boga. Tko je Bog?
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And I'm very aware that when you say the word "God,"
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Svjestan sam da će, kad izgovorite riječ "Bog",
00:48
many people will turn off immediately.
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mnogi ljudi odmah izgubiti interes.
00:51
And most people, both within and outside the organized church,
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Većina ljudi, i unutar i izvan službene crkve,
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still have a picture of a celestial controller,
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i dalje imaju predodžbu nebeskog nadzornika,
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a rule maker, a policeman in the sky who orders everything,
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nekoga tko određuje pravila, nebeskog policajca koji zapovijeda svime,
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and causes everything to happen.
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i uzrokuje sve što se događa.
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He will protect his own people,
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On će štititi svoje ljude,
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and answer the prayers of the faithful.
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i odgovarati na molitve vjernika.
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And in the worship of my church,
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U vjeri moje crkve
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the most frequently used adjective about God is "almighty."
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najučestalije korišten pridjev uz Božje ime je "svemogući".
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But I have a problem with that.
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Međutim, ja s time imam problem.
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I have become more and more uncomfortable
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Tijekom vremena, sve više osjećam nelagodu
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with this perception of God over the years.
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zbog takve percepcije Boga.
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Do we really believe that God is the kind of male boss that we've been presenting
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Vjerujemo li mi doista da je Bog neka vrst šefa, muškarca kakvim ga
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in our worship and in our liturgies over all these years?
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prikazujemo u svojim vjerskim praksama i u liturgijama svih ovih godina?
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Of course, there have been thinkers
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Naravno, bilo je mislilaca
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who have suggested different ways of looking at God.
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koji su predlagali drugačije gledanje na Boga.
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Exploring the feminine, nurturing side of divinity.
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Istražujući žensku, majčinsku stranu božanskoga.
02:02
Suggesting that God expresses Himself or Herself through powerlessness,
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Predlažući da se Bog izražava kroz nemoć
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rather than power.
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više negoli kroz moć.
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Acknowledging that God is unknown and unknowable by definition.
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Priznavajući da je Bog, po definiciji, nepoznat i nespoznatljiv.
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Finding deep resonances with other religions and philosophies
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Nalazeći odjeke i sličnosti s drugim religijama i filozofijama,
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and ways of looking at life as part of what is a universal and global search for meaning.
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i svjetonazore koji su dio univerzalnog i globalnog traganja za smislom.
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These ideas are well known in liberal academic circles,
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Te su ideje dobro poznate u liberalnim akademskim krugovima,
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but clergy like myself have been reluctant to air them,
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no svećenici, poput mene, nevoljko o njima javno progovaraju,
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for fear of creating tension and division in our church communities,
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zbog straha od stvaranja napetosti i podjela u našim župnim zajednicama,
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for fear of upsetting the simple faith of more traditional believers.
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zbog straha od uznemiravanja prostodušne vjere onih tradicionalnijih vjernika.
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I have chosen not to rock the boat.
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Ja sam odabrao ne uzburkavati vode.
03:04
Then, on December 26th last year, just two months ago,
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No, onda, 26. prosinca prošle godine, prije svega dva mjeseca,
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that underwater earthquake triggered the tsunami.
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taj podmorski potres pokrenuo je tsunami.
03:13
And two weeks later, Sunday morning, 9th of January,
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A dva tjedna kasnije, u nedjeljno jutro,9. siječnja,
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I found myself standing in front of my congregation --
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našao sam se pred svojim župljanima
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intelligent, well meaning, mostly thoughtful Christian people --
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inteligentnim, dobronamjernim, uglavnom obzirnim kršćanima...
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and I needed to express, on their behalf, our feelings and our questions.
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I morao sam izraziti, u njihovo ime, naše osjećaje i naša pitanja.
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I had my own personal responses, but I also have a public role,
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Imao sam i sam neke odgovore, ali svjestan sam i svoje javne uloge,
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and something needed to be said.
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i nešto je trebalo reći.
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And this is what I said.
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I evo što sam rekao...
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Shortly after the tsunami I read a newspaper article
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Ubrzo nakon tsunamija, čitao sam novinski članak
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written by the Archbishop of Canterbury -- fine title --
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što ga je napisao nadbiskup od Canterburyja - krasnog naslova -
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about the tragedy in Southern Asia.
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o tragediji u južnoj Aziji.
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The essence of what he said was this:
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Suština onoga što je rekao bila je sljedeća:
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the people most affected by the devastation and loss of life
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Većina ljudi pogođenih razaranjima i gubicima ljudskih života
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do not want intellectual theories about how God let this happen.
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ne žele slušati intelektualne teorije o tome kako je Bog dopustio da se to dogodi.
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He wrote, "If some religious genius did come up with an explanation
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Napisao je: "Kad bi neki religijski genij i došao do obrazloženja
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of exactly why all these deaths made sense,
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zbog čega točno sve te smrti imaju smisla,
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would we feel happier, or safer, or more confident in God?"
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bismo li se mi osjećali sretnijima, ili sigurnijima, ili imali više pouzdanja u Boga?"
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If the man in the photograph that appeared in the newspapers,
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Kad bi čovjek s fotografije objavljene u novinama,
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holding the hand of his dead child was standing in front of us now,
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što za ruku drži svoje mrtvo dijete, stajao sada pred nama,
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there are no words that we could say to him.
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ne bi bilo riječi koje bismo mu mogli uputiti.
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A verbal response would not be appropriate.
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Verbalni odgovor ne bi bio primjeren.
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The only appropriate response would be a compassionate silence
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Jedini primjeren odgovor bila bi sućutna šutnja
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and some kind of practical help.
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i neki oblik praktične pomoći.
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It isn't a time for explanation, or preaching, or theology;
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Nije to trenutak za obrazloženja, za propovijedi, ili za teologiju;
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it's a time for tears.
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vrijeme je to za suze.
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This is true. And yet here we are, my church in Oxford,
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To je istina. A opet, tu smo, moja crkva u Oxfordu,
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semi-detached from events that happened a long way away,
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donekle distancirani od događaja koji su se zbili negdje daleko,
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but with our faith bruised.
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ali i sa svojom pozlijeđenom vjerom.
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And we want an explanation from God.
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I od Boga želimo objašnjenje.
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We demand an explanation from God.
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Zahtijevamo od Boga objašnjenje.
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Some have concluded that we can only believe in a God who shares our pain.
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Neki su zaključili da vjerovati možemo samo u Boga koji dijeli našu bol.
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In some way, God must feel the anguish, and grief,
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Na neki način, Bog mora osjećati muku, i tugu,
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and physical pain that we feel.
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i tjelesnu bol koju mi osjećamo.
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In some way the eternal God must be able to enter into the souls of human beings
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Na neki način, vječni Bog mora biti sposoban ući u duše ljudskih bića
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and experience the torment within.
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i iskusiti to razdiranje iznutra.
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And if this is true, it must also be that God knows the joy and exaltation
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I ako to jest istina, mora biti i da Bog poznaje i radost i ushit
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of the human spirit, as well.
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ljudskoga duha.
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We want a God who can weep with those who weep,
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Mi želimo Boga koji može jecati s onima koji jecaju,
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and rejoice with those who rejoice.
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i slaviti s onima koji slave.
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This seems to me both a deeply moving and a convincing re-statement
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To mi se čini i dirljivom i uvjerljivom potvrdom
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of Christian belief about God.
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kršćanske slike Boga.
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For hundreds of years, the prevailing orthodoxy, the accepted truth,
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Stotinama je godina, prevladavajuća dogma, prihvaćena istina,
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was that God the Father, the Creator, is unchanging
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bila ona prema kojoj je Bog Otac, Tvorac, nepromjenljiv
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and therefore by definition cannot feel pain or sadness.
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i stoga, po definiciji, ne može osjećati bol ili žalost.
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Now the unchanging God feels a bit cold and indifferent to me.
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Takav nepromjenljiv Bog čini mi se pomalo hladnim i nezainteresiranim.
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And the devastating events of the 20th century
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A razorni događaji tijekom 20. stoljeća
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have forced people to question the cold, unfeeling God.
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primorali su ljude na preispitivanje takvog hladnog, bezosjećajnog Boga.
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The slaughter of millions in the trenches and in the death camps
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Pokolj milijuna u rovovima i u logorima smrti
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have caused people to ask, "Where is God in all this?
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nagnao je ljude da se pitaju: "Gdje je Bog u svemu ovome?
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Who is God in all this?"
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Tko je Bog u svemu ovome?"
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And the answer was, "God is in this with us,
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I odgovor je bio: "Bog je u ovome s nama,
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or God doesn't deserve our allegiance anymore."
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ili Bog više ne zaslužuje našu odanost i vjeru."
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If God is a bystander, observing but not involved,
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Ako je Bog pasivan promatrač koji se ne upliće,
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then God may well exist, but we don't want to know about Him.
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tad Bog može i postojati, ali mi ne želimo niti čuti o Njemu.
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Many Jews and Christians now feel like this, I know.
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Brojni Židovi i kršćani danas se ovako osjećaju, znam.
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And I am among them.
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I ja sam među njima.
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So we have a suffering God --
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Prema tome, imamo Boga koji pati,
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a God who is intimately connected with this world and with every living soul.
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Boga koji je blisko povezan s ovim svijetom i sa svakim živim bićem.
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I very much relate to this idea of God.
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Ovakva predodžba Boga vrlo mi je bliska.
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But it isn't enough. I need to ask some more questions,
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No, to nije dovoljno. Moram postaviti neka dodatna pitanja,
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and I hope they are questions that you will want to ask, as well,
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i nadam se da biste ta pitanja i vi mogli željeti postaviti;
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some of you.
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neki od vas.
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Over the last few weeks I have been struck by the number of times
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Tijekom posljednjih nekoliko tjedana zaprepastilo me koliko su se često
08:02
that words in our worship have felt a bit inappropriate, a bit dodgy.
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riječi u našim molitvama učinile pomalo neprimjerenima, pomalo neuvjerljivima.
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We have a pram service on Tuesday mornings for mums and their pre-school children.
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Svakog utorka ujutro održavamo službu za mame i njihovu djecu predškolske dobi.
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And last week we sang with the children one of their favorite songs,
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Prošloga smo tjedna s djecom pjevali jednu od njihovih omiljenih pjesama:
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"The Wise Man Built His House Upon the Rock."
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"Mudar čovjek sagradi kuću na stijeni".
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Perhaps some of you know it. Some of the words go like this:
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Moguće je da je nekima poznata. Neki od stihova glase:
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"The foolish man built his house upon the sand /
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"Lud čovjek sagradi svoju kuću na pijesku /
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And the floods came up / And the house on the sand went crash."
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I navale bujice / I kuća na pijesku se sruši."
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Then in the same week, at a funeral,
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Potom, istoga tjedna, pri sprovodu,
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we sang the familiar hymn "We Plow the Fields and Scatter,"
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pjevali smo poznatu pjesmu: "Oremo polja i sijemo ih",
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a very English hymn.
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vrlo englesku crkvenu pjesmu.
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In the second verse comes the line, "The wind and waves obey Him."
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U drugoj strofi nalazimo stih: "Vjetar i valovi pokoravaju Mu se."
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Do they? I don't feel we can sing that song again in church,
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Doista? Ne mislim da tu pjesmu u crkvi smijemo više pjevati
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after what's happened.
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nakon ovoga što se dogodilo.
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So the first big question is about control.
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Stoga je prvo veliko pitanje ono o kontroli.
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Does God have a plan for each of us? Is God in control?
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Ima li Bog plan za svakoga od nas? Drži li on konce u rukama?
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Does God order each moment? Does the wind and the waves obey Him?
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Određuje li Bog svaki trenutak? Pokoravaju li Mu se i vjetar i valovi?
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From time to time,
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S vremena na vrijeme,
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one hears Christians telling the story of how God organized things for them,
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mogu se čuti kršćani kako pričaju o Bogu koji se za njih pobrinuo,
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so that everything worked out all right --
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pa se sve odvilo u najboljem mogućem redu...
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some difficulty overcome, some illness cured, some trouble averted,
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Poneka prevladana poteškoća, pokoja izliječena bolest, poneka izbjegnuta nevolja,
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a parking space found at a crucial time.
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slobodno parkirališno mjesto u ključnom trenutku.
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I can remember someone saying this to me,
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Sjećam se osobe koja mi je ovo govorila,
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with her eyes shining with enthusiasm at this wonderful confirmation of her faith
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očima sjajnim od ushićenja ovom čudesnom potvrdom njene vjere
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and the goodness of God.
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i Božjom dobrotom.
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But if God can or will do these things --
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Ali, ako Bog može ili hoće ovo učiniti...
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intervene to change the flow of events --
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umiješati se i promijeniti tok događaja...
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then surely he could have stopped the tsunami.
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onda je on zasigurno mogao zaustaviti i tsunami.
09:55
Do we have a local God who can do little things like parking spaces,
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Imamo li Boga koji može rješavati sitnice poput parkirališnih mjesta,
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but not big things like 500 mile-per-hour waves?
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ali ne i krupne stvari kao što su to valovi koji se kreću brzinom od 800 km/h?
10:04
That's just not acceptable to intelligent Christians,
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To jednostavno nije prihvatljivo inteligentnim kršćanima,
10:09
and we must acknowledge it.
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i mi to moramo priznati.
10:11
Either God is responsible for the tsunami,
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Ili je Bog odgovoran za tsunami,
10:14
or God is not in control.
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ili Bog nema nikakvu kontrolu.
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After the tragedy, survival stories began to emerge.
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Nakon tragedije, pojavile su se priče o preživljavanju.
10:21
You probably heard some of them:
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Vjerojatno ste neke od njih čuli:
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the man who surfed the wave,
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čovjek koji je jahao na valu,
10:25
the teenage girl who recognized the danger
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tinejdžerica koja je prepoznala opasnost
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because she had just been learning about tsunamis at school.
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jer je u školi baš učila o tsunamijima.
10:31
Then there was the congregation who had left their usual church building on the shore
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A postojala je i župna zajednica koja je napustila svoju crkvu na obali
10:36
to hold a service in the hills.
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da bi službu održala u brdima.
10:38
The preacher delivered an extra long sermon,
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Propovjednik je održao osobito dugu propovijed,
10:42
so that they were still out of harm's way when the wave struck.
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pa oni nisu bili zlu na putu kad je val udario.
10:46
Afterwards someone said that God must have been looking after them.
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Kasnije je netko rekao da se Bog pobrinuo za njih.
10:54
So the next question is about partiality.
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Stoga je sljedeće pitanje ono o pristranosti.
10:57
Can we earn God's favor by worshipping Him or believing in Him?
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Možemo li zaslužiti Božju naklonost Njegovim slavljenjem ili vjerovanjem u Njega?
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Does God demand loyalty, like any medieval tyrant?
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Zahtijeva li Bog odanost, poput nekog srednjovjekovnog tiranina?
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A God who looks after His own, so that Christians are OK,
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Bog koji brine o svojima, pa su kršćani dobro,
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while everyone else perishes?
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dok svi ostali pate i umiru?
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A cosmic us and them, and a God who is guilty of the worst kind of favoritism?
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Kozmički "mi i oni", i Bog kriv za najgori oblik favoriziranja?
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That would be appalling,
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To bi bilo užasno,
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and that would be the point at which I would hand in my membership.
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i u tom bih se trenutku odrekao svojeg članstva u Crkvi.
11:32
Such a God would be morally inferior to the highest ideals of humanity.
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Takav bi Bog bio moralno nedostojan najviših ideala čovječnosti.
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So who is God, if not the great puppet-master or the tribal protector?
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Tko je onda Bog, ako nije veliki lutkar ili plemenski zaštitnik?
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Perhaps God allows or permits terrible things to happen,
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Možda Bog dopušta da se strahote događaju
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so that heroism and compassion can be shown.
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kako bi junaštvo i sućut došli do izražaja.
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Perhaps God is testing us: testing our charity, or our faith.
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Možda nas Bog iskušava: iskušava naše milosrđe, ili našu vjeru.
12:00
Perhaps there is a great, cosmic plan that allows for horrible suffering
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Možda postoji veći, kozmički plan koji omogućava strašne patnje
12:04
so that everything will work out OK in the end.
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kako bi sve na koncu dobro svršilo.
12:07
Perhaps, but these ideas are all just variations on God controlling everything,
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Možda, ali sve su ove ideje tek varijacije Boga koji sve nadzire,
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the supreme commander toying with expendable units in a great campaign.
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vrhovnog zapovjednika koji se poigrava s potrošnim jedinicama u velikom pohodu.
12:23
We are still left with a God who can do the tsunami and allow Auschwitz.
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Preostaje nam i dalje Bog koji može poslati tsunami i dopustiti Auschwitz.
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In his great novel, "The Brothers Karamazov," Dostoevsky gives these words to Ivan,
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U "Braći Karamazovima", velikom romanu Dostojevskoga, Ivan se
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addressed to his naive and devout younger brother, Alyosha:
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obraća svom naivnom i pobožnom mlađemu bratu, Aljoši:
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"If the sufferings of children go to make up the sum of sufferings
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"Ako se patnje djece zbrajaju i čine ukupnu patnju
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which is necessary for the purchase of truth,
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neophodnu u pronalaženju istine,
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then I say beforehand that the entire truth is not worth such a price.
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onda ja unaprijed kažem da ta cjelovita istina nije vrijedna te cijene.
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We cannot afford to pay so much for admission.
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Ne možemo si priuštiti platiti toliko skupu ulaznicu.
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It is not God that I do not accept.
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Nije Bog taj kojega ne prihvaćam.
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I merely, most respectfully, return Him the ticket."
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Naprosto Mu, s punim poštovanjem, vraćam ulaznicu.
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Or perhaps God set the whole universe going at the beginning
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Ili je možda Bog u početku pokrenuo čitav svemir
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and then relinquished control forever,
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i onda se zauvijek odrekao kontrole
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so that natural processes could occur, and evolution run its course.
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kako bi prirodni procesi otpočeli, a evolucija potekla svojim tokom.
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This seems more acceptable,
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Ovo se čini prihvatljivijim,
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but it still leaves God with the ultimate moral responsibility.
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iako Boga ostavlja s krajnjom moralnom odgovornošću.
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Is God a cold, unfeeling spectator?
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Je li Bog hladan, bezosjećajan promatrač?
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Or a powerless lover, watching with infinite compassion
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Ili nemoćan zaštitnik koji s nemjerljivom sućuti promatra
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things God is unable to control or change?
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sve što je Bog nesposoban promijeniti ili kontrolirati?
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Is God intimately involved in our suffering,
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Sudjeluje li Bog blisko u našoj patnji,
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so that He feels it in His own being?
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tako da je i Sam osjeća u Svome biću?
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If we believe something like this, we must let go of the puppet-master completely,
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Vjerujemo li u nešto poput ovoga, onda moramo potpuno napustiti predodžbu o lutkaru,
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take our leave of the almighty controller, abandon traditional models.
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o svemoćnom nadzorniku, napustiti tradicionalne modele.
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We must think again about God.
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Moramo ponovno promisliti o Bogu.
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Maybe God doesn't do things at all.
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Možda Bog uopće ništa ne čini.
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Maybe God isn't an agent like all of us are agents.
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Možda Bog nije izvršitelj kakvi svi mi ostali jesmo.
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Early religious thought conceived God as a sort of superhuman person,
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Rana religijska misao zamišljala je Boga kao svojevrsnu nadljudsku osobu,
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doing things all over the place.
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koja posvuda intervenira.
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Beating up the Egyptians, drowning them in the Red Sea, wasting cities, getting angry.
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Premlaćuje Egipćane, utapa ih u Crvenom moru, uništava gradove, bjesni.
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The people knew their God by His mighty acts.
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Ljudi su svoga Boga poznavali po Njegovim moćnim djelima.
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But what if God doesn't act? What if God doesn't do things at all?
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Ali, što ako Bog ne djeluje? Što ako Bog uopće ništa ne čini?
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What if God is in things?
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Što ako je Bog u stvarima?
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The loving soul of the universe.
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Univerzalna duša puna ljubavi.
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An in-dwelling compassionate presence, underpinning and sustaining all things.
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Sveobitavajuća suosjećajna prisutnost što podupire i održava sve stvari.
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What if God is in things?
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Što ako je Bog u stvarima?
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In the infinitely complex network of relationships and connections that make up life.
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U beskrajno složenoj mreži odnosa i povezanosti od kojih je život sačinjen.
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In the natural cycle of life and death,
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U prirodnom ciklusu života i smrti,
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the creation and destruction that must happen continuously.
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stvaranje i uništavanje koji se stalno moraju zbivati.
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In the process of evolution.
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U evolucijskom procesu.
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In the incredible intricacy and magnificence of the natural world.
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U nevjerojatnoj zakučastosti i veličanstvenosti prirodnoga svijeta.
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In the collective unconscious, the soul of the human race.
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U kolektivnom nesvjesnom, duši ljudske rase.
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In you, in me, mind and body and spirit.
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U vama, u meni, u umu i tijelu i duhu.
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In the tsunami, in the victims. In the depth of things.
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U tsunamiju, u žrtvama. U dubini stvari.
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In presence and in absence. In simplicity and complexity.
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U prisutnosti i u odsutnosti. U jednostavnosti i u složenosti.
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In change and development and growth.
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U promjeni, u razvoju, u rastu.
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How does this in-ness, this innerness, this interiority of God work?
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Kako djeluje ta Božja unutarnjost, ta unutrašnjost, ta nutrina?
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It's hard to conceive, and begs more questions.
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Teško je to zamisliti i vapi za daljnjim pitanjima.
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Is God just another name for the universe,
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Je li Bog tek drugo ime za Svemir
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with no independent existence at all?
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bez ikakve zasebne egzistencije?
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I don't know.
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Ne znam.
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To what extent can we ascribe personality to God?
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U kojoj mjeri možemo Bogu pripisati osobnost?
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I don't know.
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Ne znam.
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In the end, we have to say, "I don't know."
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Na koncu, moramo reći: "Ne znam."
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If we knew, God would not be God.
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Kad bismo znali, Bog ne bi bio Bog.
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To have faith in this God
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Vjerovati u ovakvoga Boga
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would be more like trusting an essential benevolence in the universe,
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bilo bi više poput vjerovanja u suštinsku dobronamjernost u svemiru,
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and less like believing a system of doctrinal statements.
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a manje bi sličilo vjerovanju u sustav doktrinarnih tvrdnji.
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Isn't it ironic that Christians who claim to believe
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Nije li ironično da kršćani tvrde da vjeruju
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in an infinite, unknowable being
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u neograničeno, nespoznatljivo biće,
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then tie God down in closed systems and rigid doctrines?
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a onda Boga vežu zatvorenim sustavima i krutim dogmama?
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How could one practice such a faith?
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Kako netko može prakticirati takvu vjeru?
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By seeking the God within. By cultivating my own inwardness.
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Tražeći Boga unutra. Njegujući vlastitu, intimnu bit.
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In silence, in meditation, in my inner space, in the me that remains
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U tišini, u meditaciji, u mom unutarnjem prostoru, u meni što preostajem
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when I gently put aside my passing emotions and ideas and preoccupations.
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pošto nježno zanemarim svoje prolazne emocije, zamisli i interese.
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In awareness of the inner conversation.
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U svjesnosti o unutarnjem dijalogu.
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And how would we live such a faith? How would I live such a faith?
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A kako bismo živjeli takvu vjeru? Kako bih ja živio takvu vjeru?
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By seeking intimate connection with your inwardness.
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Tragajući za intimnom poveznicom s vašom biti.
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The kind of relationships when deep speaks to deep.
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Za onom vrstom odnosa u kojemu se duboko obraća dubokome.
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If God is in all people, then there is a meeting place
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Ako je Bog u svim ljudima, tad postoji mjesto susreta
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where my relationship with you becomes a three-way encounter.
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na kojemu moj odnos s tobom postaje trostrani susret.
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There is an Indian greeting, which I'm sure some of you know:
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U Indiji postoji pozdrav, vjerojatno poznat nekima od vas:
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"Namaste," accompanied by a respectful bow,
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"Namaste", popraćen uljudnim naklonom,
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which, roughly translated means,
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koji, grubo preveden, znači:
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"That which is of God in me greets that which of God is in you."
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"Ono što je Božje u meni pozdravlja ono što je Božje u tebi."
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Namaste.
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Namaste.
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And how would one deepen such a faith?
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I kako bi netko produbio takvu vjeru?
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By seeking the inwardness which is in all things.
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Tragajući za biti koja je u svim stvarima.
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In music and poetry, in the natural world of beauty
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U glazbi i u poeziji, u prirodnom svijetu ljepote
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and in the small ordinary things of life,
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i u malim običnim životnim detaljima,
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there is a deep, indwelling presence that makes them extraordinary.
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postoji duboka, sveobitavajuća prisutnost koja ih čini izvanrednima.
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It needs a profound attentiveness and a patient waiting,
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Potrebna joj je potpuna pozornost i strpljivo iščekivanje,
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a contemplative attitude and a generosity and openness
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kontemplativan stav, velikodušnost i otvorenost
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to those whose experience is different from my own.
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prema onima čije se iskustvo razlikuje od moga.
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When I stood up to speak to my people about God and the tsunami,
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Kad sam stao pred svoje ljude da bih im govorio o Bogu i o tsunamiju,
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I had no answers to offer them.
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nisam imao odgovore koje bih im ponudio.
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No neat packages of faith, with Bible references to prove them.
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Ničeg u što bih skladno uvio vjeru, niti biblijske poveznice koje je potvrđuju.
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Only doubts and questioning and uncertainty.
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Samo dvojbe, pitanja i nesigurnost.
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I had some suggestions to make --
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Imao sam neke prijedloge,
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possible new ways of thinking about God.
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moguće nove oblike poimanja Boga...
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Ways that might allow us to go on, down a new and uncharted road.
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Načine koji bi nam mogli pomoći da nastavimo dalje, nekim novim i neobilježenim putem.
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But in the end, the only thing I could say for sure was, "I don't know,"
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No, na kraju, jedino što sam sigurno mogao reći, bilo je: "Ne znam."
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and that just might be the most profoundly religious statement of all.
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I upravo bi to mogla biti najdublja od svih religioznih izjava.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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