Larry Brilliant: TED Prize wish: Help stop the next pandemic

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I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
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I got to see the last case of killer smallpox in the world.
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I was in India this past year,
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and I may have seen the last cases of polio in the world.
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There's nothing that makes you feel more --
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the blessing and the honor of working in a program like that --
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than to know that something that horrible no longer exists.
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So I'm going to tell you --
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(Applause)
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so I'm going to show you some dirty pictures.
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They are difficult to watch, but you should look at them with optimism,
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because the horror of these pictures will be matched
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by the uplifting quality of knowing that they no longer exist.
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But first, I'm going to tell you a little bit about my own journey.
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My background is not exactly the conventional medical education
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that you might expect.
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When I was an intern in San Francisco,
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I heard about a group of Native Americans who had taken over Alcatraz Island,
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and a Native American who wanted to give birth on that island,
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and no other doctor wanted to go and help her give birth.
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I went out to Alcatraz, and I lived on the island for several weeks.
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She gave birth; I caught the baby; I got off the island;
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I landed in San Francisco;
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and all the press wanted to talk to me,
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because my three weeks on the island made me an expert in Indian affairs.
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(Laughter)
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I wound up on every television show.
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Someone saw me on television; they called me up; and they asked me
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if I'd like to be in a movie and to play a young doctor
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for a bunch of rock and roll stars who were traveling in a bus ride
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from San Francisco to England.
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And I said, yes, I would do that,
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so I became the doctor in an absolutely awful movie
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called "Medicine Ball Caravan."
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(Laughter)
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Now, you know from the '60s,
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you're either on the bus or you're off the bus; I was on the bus.
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My wife of 37 years and I joined the bus.
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Our bus ride took us from San Francisco to London,
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then we switched buses at the big pond.
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We then got on two more buses
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and we drove through Turkey and Iran, Afghanistan,
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over the Khyber Pass into Pakistan, like every other young doctor.
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This is us at the Khyber Pass, and that's our bus.
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We had some difficulty getting over the Khyber Pass.
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But we wound up in India.
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And then, like everyone else in our generation,
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we went to live in a Himalayan monastery.
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(Laughter)
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This is just like a residency program,
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for those of you that are in medical school.
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(Laughter)
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And we studied with a wise man, a guru named Karoli Baba,
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who then told me to get rid of the dress,
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put on a three-piece suit,
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go join the United Nations as a diplomat
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and work for the World Health Organization.
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And he made an outrageous prediction that smallpox would be eradicated,
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and that this was God's gift to humanity,
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because of the hard work of dedicated scientists.
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And that prediction came true.
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This little girl is Rahima Banu,
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and she was the last case of killer smallpox in the world.
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And this document is the certificate that the global commission signed,
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certifying the world to have eradicated the first disease in history.
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The key to eradicating smallpox was early detection, early response.
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I'm going to ask you to repeat that: early detection, early response.
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Can you say that?
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Audience: Early detection, early response.
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Larry Brilliant: Smallpox was the worst disease in history.
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It killed more people than all the wars in history.
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In the last century, it killed 500 million people.
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You're reading about Larry Page already.
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Somebody reads very fast.
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(Laughter)
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In the year that Larry Page and Sergey Brin --
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with whom I have a certain affection and a new affiliation --
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in the year in which they were born,
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two million people died of smallpox.
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We declared smallpox eradicated in 1980.
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This is the most important slide that I've ever seen in public health,
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[Sovereigns killed by smallpox] because it shows you
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to be the richest and the strongest,
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and to be kings and queens of the world,
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did not protect you from dying of smallpox.
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Never can you doubt that we are all in this together.
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But to see smallpox from the perspective of a sovereign
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is the wrong perspective.
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You should see it from the perspective of a mother,
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watching her child develop this disease and standing by helplessly.
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Day one, day two, day three,
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day four, day five, day six.
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You're a mother and you're watching your child,
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and on day six, you see pustules that become hard.
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Day seven, they show the classic scars of smallpox umbilication.
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Day eight.
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And Al Gore said earlier
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that the most photographed image in the world,
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the most printed image in the world,
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was that of the Earth.
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But this was in 1974, and as of that moment,
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this photograph was the photograph that was the most widely printed,
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because we printed two billion copies of this photograph,
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and we took them hand to hand, door to door,
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to show people and ask them if there was smallpox in their house,
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because that was our surveillance system.
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We didn't have Google, we didn't have web crawlers,
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we didn't have computers.
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By day nine -- you look at this picture and you're horrified;
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I look at this picture and I say, "Thank God,"
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because it's clear that this is only an ordinary case of smallpox,
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and I know this child will live.
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And by day 13, the lesions are scabbing, his eyelids are swollen,
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but you know this child has no other secondary infection.
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And by day 20, while he will be scarred for life, he will live.
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There are other kinds of smallpox that are not like that.
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This is confluent smallpox,
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in which there isn't a single place on the body where you could put a finger
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and not be covered by lesions.
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Flat smallpox, which killed 100 percent of people who got it.
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And hemorrhagic smallpox, the most cruel of all,
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which had a predilection for pregnant women.
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I've probably had 50 women die.
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They all had hemorrhagic smallpox.
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I've never seen anybody die from it who wasn't a pregnant woman.
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In 1967, the WHO embarked on what was an outrageous program
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to eradicate a disease.
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In that year, there were 34 countries affected with smallpox.
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By 1970, we were down to 18 countries.
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1974, we were down to five countries.
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But in that year, smallpox exploded throughout India.
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And India was the place where smallpox made its last stand.
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In 1974, India had a population of 600 million.
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There are 21 linguistic states in India,
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which is like saying 21 different countries.
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There are 20 million people on the road at any time,
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in buses and trains, walking; 500,000 villages, 120 million households,
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and none of them wanted to report
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if they had a case of smallpox in their house,
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because they thought that smallpox was the visitation of a deity,
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Shitala Mata, the cooling mother,
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and it was wrong to bring strangers into your house
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when the deity was in the house.
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No incentive to report smallpox.
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It wasn't just India that had smallpox deities;
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smallpox deities were prevalent all over the world.
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So, how we eradicated smallpox was --
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mass vaccination wouldn't work.
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You could vaccinate everybody in India,
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but one year later there'd be 21 million new babies,
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which was then the population of Canada.
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It wouldn't do just to vaccinate everyone.
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You had to find every single case of smallpox in the world
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at the same time, and draw a circle of immunity around it.
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And that's what we did.
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In India alone, my 150,000 best friends and I went door to door,
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with that same picture,
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to every single house in India.
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We made over one billion house calls.
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And in the process, I learned something very important.
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Every time we did a house-to-house search,
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we had a spike in the number of reports of smallpox.
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When we didn't search, we had the illusion that there was no disease.
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When we did search, we had the illusion that there was more disease.
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A surveillance system was necessary,
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because what we needed was early detection, early response.
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So we searched and we searched,
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and we found every case of smallpox in India.
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We had a reward. We raised the reward.
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We continued to increase the reward.
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We had a scorecard that we wrote on every house.
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And as we did that,
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the number of reported cases in the world dropped to zero.
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And in 1980, we declared the globe free of smallpox.
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It was the largest campaign in United Nations history,
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until the Iraq war.
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150,000 people from all over the world --
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doctors of every race, religion, culture and nation,
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who fought side by side, brothers and sisters,
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with each other, not against each other,
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in a common cause to make the world better.
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But smallpox was the fourth disease that was intended for eradication.
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We failed three other times.
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We failed against malaria, yellow fever and yaws.
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But soon we may see polio eradicated.
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But the key to eradicating polio is early detection, early response.
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This may be the year we eradicate polio.
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That will make it the second disease in history.
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And David Heymann, who's watching this on the webcast --
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David, keep on going. We're close!
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We're down to four countries.
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(Applause)
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I feel like Hank Aaron.
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Barry Bonds can replace me any time.
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Let's get another disease off the list of terrible things to worry about.
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I was just in India working on the polio program.
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The polio surveillance program is four million people going door to door.
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That is the surveillance system.
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But we need to have early detection, early response.
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Blindness, the same thing.
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The key to discovering blindness is doing epidemiological surveys
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and finding out the causes of blindness,
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so you can mount the correct response.
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The Seva Foundation was started by a group of alumni
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of the Smallpox Eradication Programme,
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who, having climbed the highest mountain,
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tasted the elixir of the success of eradicating a disease,
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wanted to do it again.
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And over the last 27 years, Seva's programs in 15 countries
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have given back sight to more than two million blind people.
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Seva got started because we wanted to apply these lessons
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of surveillance and epidemiology
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to something which nobody else was looking at as a public health issue:
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blindness, which heretofore had been thought of only as a clinical disease.
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In 1980, Steve Jobs gave me that computer, which is Apple number 12,
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and it's still in Kathmandu, and it's still working,
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and we ought to go get it and auction it off and make more money for Seva.
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And we conducted the first Nepal survey ever done for health,
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and the first nationwide blindness survey ever done,
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and we had astonishing results.
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Instead of finding out what we thought was the case --
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that blindness was caused mostly by glaucoma and trachoma --
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we were astounded to find out
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that blindness was caused instead by cataract.
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You can't cure or prevent what you don't know is there.
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In your TED packages there's a DVD, "Infinite Vision,"
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about Dr. V and the Aravind Eye Hospital.
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I hope that you will take a look at it.
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Aravind, which started as a Seva project,
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is now the world's largest and best eye hospital.
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This year, that one hospital will give back sight
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to more than 300,000 people in Tamil Nadu, India.
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(Applause)
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Bird flu.
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I stand here as a representative of all terrible things --
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this might be the worst.
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The key to preventing or mitigating pandemic bird flu
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is early detection and rapid response.
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We will not have a vaccine or adequate supplies of an antiviral
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to combat bird flu if it occurs in the next three years.
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WHO stages the progress of a pandemic.
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We are now at stage three on the pandemic alert stage,
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with just a little bit of human-to-human transmission,
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but no human-to-human-to-human sustained transmission.
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The moment WHO says we've moved to category four --
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this will not be like Katrina.
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The world as we know it will stop.
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There'll be no airplanes flying.
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Would you get in an airplane with 250 people you didn't know,
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coughing and sneezing,
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when you knew that some of them might carry a disease that could kill you,
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for which you had no antivirals or vaccine?
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I did a study of the top epidemiologists in the world in October.
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I asked them -- these are all fluologists and specialists in influenza --
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and I asked them the questions you'd like to ask them:
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What do you think the likelihood is that there'll be a pandemic?
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If it happens, how bad do you think it will be?
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Fifteen percent said they thought there'd be a pandemic within three years.
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But much worse than that,
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90 percent said they thought there'd be a pandemic
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within your children or your grandchildren's lifetime.
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And they thought that if there was a pandemic,
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a billion people would get sick.
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As many as 165 million people would die.
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There would be a global recession and depression
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as our just-in-time inventory system
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and the tight rubber band of globalization broke,
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and the cost to our economy of one to three trillion dollars
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would be far worse for everyone than merely 100 million people dying,
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because so many more people would lose their job
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and their healthcare benefits,
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that the consequences are almost unthinkable.
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And it's getting worse, because travel is getting so much better.
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Let me show you a simulation of what a pandemic looks like.
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So we know what we're talking about.
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Let's assume, for example, that the first case occurs in South Asia.
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It initially goes quite slowly.
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You get two or three discrete locations.
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Then there'll be secondary outbreaks, and the disease will spread
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from country to country so fast that you won't know what hit you.
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Within three weeks it will be everywhere in the world.
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Now, if we had an "undo" button, and we could go back and isolate it
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and grab it when it first started -- if we could find it early,
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and we had early detection and early response,
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and we could put each one of those viruses in jail --
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that's the only way to deal with something like a pandemic.
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And let me show you why that is.
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We have a joke.
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This is an epidemic curve, and everyone in medicine,
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I think, ultimately gets to know what it is.
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But the joke is,
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an epidemiologist likes to arrive at an epidemic right here
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and ride to glory on the downhill curve.
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(Laughter)
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But you don't get to do that usually.
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You usually arrive right about here.
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What we really want is to arrive right here, so we can stop the epidemic.
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But you can't always do that.
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But there's an organization that has been able to find a way
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to learn when the first cases occur,
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and that is called GPHIN;
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it's the Global Public Health Information Network.
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And that simulation that I showed you
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that you thought was bird flu -- that was SARS.
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And SARS is the pandemic that did not occur.
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And it didn't occur
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because GPHIN found the pandemic-to-be of SARS
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three months before WHO actually announced it, and because of that,
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we were able to stop the SARS pandemic.
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And I think we owe a great debt of gratitude
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to GPHIN and to Ron St. John,
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who I hope is in the audience some place -- over there --
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who's the founder of GPHIN.
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(Applause)
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Hello, Ron!
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(Applause)
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And TED has flown Ron here from Ottawa, where GPHIN is located,
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because not only did GPHIN find SARS early,
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but you may have seen last week
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that Iran announced that they had bird flu in Iran,
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but GPHIN found the bird flu in Iran not February 14 --
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but last September.
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We need an early-warning system
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to protect us against the things that are humanity's worst nightmare.
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And so my TED wish is based on the common denominator
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of these experiences.
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Smallpox -- early detection, early response.
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Blindness, polio -- early detection, early response.
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Pandemic bird flu -- early detection, early response.
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It is a litany.
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It is so obvious that our only way of dealing with these new diseases
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is to find them early and to kill them before they spread.
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So, my TED wish is for you to help build a global system --
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an early-warning system --
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to protect us against humanity's worst nightmares.
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And what I thought I would call it is "Early Detection,"
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But it should really be called ...
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"Total Early Detection." [TED]
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(Laughter)
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What?
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(Applause)
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What?
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(Applause)
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But in all seriousness,
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because this idea is birthed in TED,
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I would like it to be a legacy of TED, and I'd like to call it
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the "International System for Total Early Disease Detection."
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[INSTEDD]
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And INSTEDD then becomes our mantra.
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So instead of a hidden pandemic of bird flu,
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we find it and immediately contain it.
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Instead of a novel virus caused by bio-terror or bio-error,
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or shift or drift, we find it and we contain it.
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Instead of industrial accidents like oil spills
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or the catastrophe in Bhopal,
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we find them, and we respond to them.
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Instead of famine, hidden until it is too late,
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we detect it, and we respond.
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And instead of a system which is owned by a government,
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and hidden in the bowels of government,
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let's build an early detection system
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that's freely available to anyone in the world in their own language.
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Let's make it transparent, non-governmental,
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not owned by any single country or company,
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housed in a neutral country, with redundant backup
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in a different time zone and a different continent.
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And let's build it on GPHIN.
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Let's start with GPHIN.
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Let's increase the websites that they crawl
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from 20,000 to 20 million.
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Let's increase the languages they crawl
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from seven to 70, or more.
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Let's build in outbound confirmation messages,
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using text messages or SMS or instant messaging
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to find out from people who are within 100 meters
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of the rumor that you hear,
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if it is, in fact, valid.
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And let's add satellite confirmation.
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And we'll add Gapminder's amazing graphics to the front end.
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And we'll grow it as a moral force in the world,
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finding out those terrible things
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before anybody else knows about them,
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and sending our response to them,
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so that next year, instead of us meeting here,
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lamenting how many terrible things there are in the world,
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we will have pulled together,
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used the unique skills and the magic of this community,
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and be proud that we have done everything we can to stop pandemics,
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other catastrophes, and change the world, beginning right now.
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(Applause)
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Chris Anderson: An amazing presentation.
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First of all, just so everyone understands:
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you're saying that by creating web crawlers,
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looking on the Internet for patterns,
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they can detect something suspicious
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before WHO, before anyone else can see it?
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Give an example of how that could possibly be true.
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Larry Brilliant: You're not mad about the copyright violation?
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CA: No. I love it.
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(Laughter)
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LB: Well, as Ron St. John --
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I hope you'll go and meet him in the dinner afterwards and talk to him.
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When he started GPHIN --
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In 1997, there was an outbreak of bird flu -- H5N1.
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It was in Hong Kong.
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And a remarkable doctor in Hong Kong responded immediately,
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by slaughtering 1.5 million chickens and birds,
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and they stopped that outbreak in its tracks.
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Immediate detection, immediate response.
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Then a number of years went by,
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and there were a lot of rumors about bird flu.
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Ron and his team in Ottawa began to crawl the web --
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only crawling 20,000 different websites, mostly periodicals --
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and they read about and heard about a concern,
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of a lot of children who had high fever and symptoms of bird flu.
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They reported this to WHO.
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WHO took a little while taking action,
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because WHO will only receive a report from a government,
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because it's the United Nations.
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But they were able to point to WHO and let them know
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that there was this surprising and unexplained cluster of illnesses
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that looked like bird flu.
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That turned out to be SARS.
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That's how the world found out about SARS.
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And because of that, we were able to stop SARS.
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Now, what's really important is that, before there was GPHIN,
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100 percent of all the world's reports of bad things --
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whether you're talking about famine
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or you're talking about bird flu or you're talking about Ebola --
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100 percent of all those reports came from nations.
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The moment these guys in Ottawa --
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on a budget of 800,000 dollars a year -- got cracking,
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75 percent of all the reports in the world came from GPHIN,
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25 percent of all the reports in the world
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came from all the other 180 nations.
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Now, here's what's really interesting:
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after they'd been working for a couple years,
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what do you think happened to those nations?
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They felt pretty stupid.
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So they started sending in their reports early.
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And now, their reporting percentage is down to 50 percent,
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because other nations have started to report.
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So, can you find diseases early by crawling the web?
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Of course you can.
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Can you find it even earlier than GPHIN does now?
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Of course you can.
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You saw that they found SARS using their Chinese web crawler
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a full six weeks before they found it using their English web crawler.
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Well, they're only crawling in seven languages.
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These bad viruses really don't have any intention
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of showing up first in English or Spanish or French.
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(Laughter)
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So yes, I want to take GPHIN, I want to build on it.
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I want to add all the languages of the world that we possibly can.
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I want to make this open to everybody,
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so that the health officer in Nairobi or in Patna, Bihar
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will have as much access to it as the folks in Ottawa or in CDC.
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And I want to make it part of our culture
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that there is a community of people who are watching out
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for the worst nightmares of humanity,
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and that it's accessible to everyone.
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