Peter Gabriel: Fighting injustice with a videocamera

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I love trees, and I'm very lucky,
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because we live near a wonderful arboretum,
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and Sundays, usually, I'd go there with my wife
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and now, with my four-year-old,
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and we'd climb in the trees, we'd play hide and seek.
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The second school I was at had big trees too,
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had a fantastic tulip tree, I think it was the biggest in the country,
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and it also had a lot of wonderful bushes and vegetation
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around it, around the playing fields.
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One day I was grabbed by some of my classmates,
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and taken in the bushes -- I was stripped; I was attacked;
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I was abused; and this came out of the blue.
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Now, the reason I say that, because, afterwards, I was thinking --
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well, I went back into the school -- I felt dirty; I felt betrayed;
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I felt ashamed, but mainly -- mainly, I felt powerless.
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And 30 years later I was sitting in an airplane,
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next to a lady called Veronica, who came from Chile,
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and we were on a human rights tour,
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and she was starting to tell me what it was like to be tortured,
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and, from my very privileged position,
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this was the only reference point that I had.
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And it was an amazing learning experience
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because, for me, human rights have been something in which I had,
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you know, a part-time interest, but, mainly,
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it was something that happened to other people over there.
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But I got a phone call from Bono in 1985 and, as you know,
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he's a great singer, but he's a magnificent hustler, and --
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(Laughter) --
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a very hard guy to say no to, and he was saying,
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you know, just after I'd done the Biko song,
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we're going to do a tour for Amnesty,
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you have to be on it, and really that was the first time
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that I'd been out and started meeting people
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who'd watched their family being shot in front of them,
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who'd had a partner thrown out of an airplane into an ocean,
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and suddenly this world of human rights arrived in my world,
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and I couldn't really walk away in quite the same way as before.
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So I got involved with this tour, which was for Amnesty,
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and then in '88 I took over Bono's job trying to learn how to hustle.
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I didn't do it as well, but we managed to get Youssou N'Dour, Sting,
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Tracy Chapman, and Bruce Springsteen to go 'round the world for Amnesty,
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and it was an amazing experience.
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And, once again, I got an extraordinary education,
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and it was the first time, really,
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that I'd met a lot of these people in the different countries,
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and these human rights stories became very physical,
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and, again, I couldn't really walk away quite so comfortably.
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But the thing that really amazed me, that I had no idea,
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was that you could suffer in this way
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and then have your whole experience, your story, denied,
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buried and forgotten.
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And it seemed that whenever there was a camera around,
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or a video or film camera,
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it was a great deal harder to do -- for those in power to bury the story.
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And Reebok set up a foundation after these Human Rights Now tours
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and there was a decision then --
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well, we made a proposal, for a couple of years,
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about trying to set up a division
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that was going to give cameras to human rights activists.
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It didn't really get anywhere,
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and then the Rodney King incident happened, and people thought,
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OK, if you have a camera in the right place at the right time,
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or, perhaps, the wrong time, depending who you are,
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then you can actually start doing something,
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and campaigning, and being heard,
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and telling people about what's going on.
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So, WITNESS was started in '92
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and it's since given cameras out in over 60 countries.
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And we campaign with activist groups
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and help them tell their story and, in fact,
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I will show you in a moment one of the most recent campaigns,
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and I'm afraid it's a story from Uganda,
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and, although we had a wonderful story from Uganda yesterday,
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this one isn't quite so good.
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In the north of Uganda,
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there are something like 1.5 million internally displaced people,
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people who are not refugees in another country,
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but because of the civil war, which has been going on for about 20 years,
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they have nowhere to live.
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And 20,000 kids have been taken away to become child soldiers,
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and the International Criminal Court is going after five of the leaders of the --
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now, what's it called?
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I forget the name of the of the army --
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it's Lord's Resistance Army, I believe --
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but the government, also, doesn't have a clean sheet,
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so if we could run the first video.
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(Music)
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Woman: Life in the camp is never simple. Even today life is difficult.
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We stay because of the fear that what pushed us into the camp ...
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still exists back home.
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Text: "Between Two Fires: Torture and Displacement in Northern Uganda"
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Man: When we were at home, it was Kony's [rebel] soldiers disturbing us.
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At first, we were safe in the camp.
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But later the government soldiers began mistreating us a lot.
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(Chanting)
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Jennifer: A soldier walked onto the road, asking where we'd been.
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Evelyn and I hid behind my mother.
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Evelyn: He ordered us to sit down, so we sat down.
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The other soldier also came.
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Jennifer: The man came and started undressing me.
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The other one carried Evelyn aside.
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The one who was defiling me then left me and went to rape Evelyn.
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And the one who was raping Evelyn came and defiled me also.
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Man: The soldiers with clubs this long beat us to get a confession.
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They kept telling us, "Tell the truth!" as they beat us.
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Woman: They insisted that I was lying.
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At that moment, they fired and shot off my fingers.
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I fell. They ran to join the others ... leaving me for dead.
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(Music)
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Text: Uganda ratified the Convention Against Torture in 1986.
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Torture is defined as any act by which severe pain of suffering,
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whether physical or mental,
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is intentionally inflicted by a person acting in an official capacity
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to obtain information or a confession, to punish, coerce or intimidate.
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Peter Gabriel: So torture is not something that always happens on other soil.
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In my country, it was --
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we had been looking at pictures of British soldiers beating up young Iraqis;
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we've got Abu Ghraib; we've got Guantanamo Bay.
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I had a driver on my way to Newark Airport,
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and he told me a story that, in the middle of the night, 4 a.m.,
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he'd been taken out of his home in Queens -- taken to a place in the Midwest,
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that he was interrogated and tortured
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and returned to the street four weeks later,
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because he had the same -- he was Middle Eastern,
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and he had the same name as one of the 9/11 pilots,
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and that may or may not be true --
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I didn't think he was a liar, though.
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And, I think, if we look around the world,
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as well as the polar ice caps melting,
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human rights, which have been fought for,
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for many hundreds of years in some cases,
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are, also, eroding very fast,
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and that is something that we need to take a look at
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and, maybe, start campaigning for.
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I mean, here, too, one of our partners was at Van Jones
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and the Books Not Bars project -- they have managed,
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with their footage in California
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to change the youth correction systems employed,
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and it's much -- much -- I think, more humane methods
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are being looked at, how you should lock up young kids,
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and that's questionable to start off.
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And as the story of Mr. Morales, just down the road,
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excuse me, Mr. Gabriel,
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would you mind if we delayed your execution a little bit?
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No, not at all, no problem, take your time.
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But this, surely, whoever that man is, whatever he's done,
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this is cruel and unusual punishment.
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Anyway, WITNESS has been trying to arm the brave people
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who often put their lives at risk around the world, with cameras,
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and I'd like to show you just a little more of that. Thank you.
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(Thunder) Text: You can say a story is fabricated.
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(Music)
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Text: You can say a jury is corrupt.
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You can say a person is lying.
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You can say you don't trust newspapers.
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But you can't say
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what you just saw
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never happened.
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Help WITNESS give cameras to the world.
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Shoot a video;
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expose injustice;
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reveal the truth;
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show us what's wrong with the world;
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and maybe
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we can help
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make it
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right.
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WITNESS.
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All the video you have just seen was recorded by
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human rights groups working with WITNESS.
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(Applause)
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PG: WITNESS was born of technological innovation --
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in a sense the small, portable, DV cam
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was really what allowed it to come into being.
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And we've also been trying to get computers out to the world,
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so that groups can communicate much more effectively,
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campaign much more effectively,
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but now we have the wonderful possibility,
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which is given to us from the mobile phone with the camera in it,
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because that is cheap; it's ubiquitous; and it's moving fast
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all around the world -- and it's very exciting for us.
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And so, the dream is that we could have a world
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in which anyone who has anything bad happen to them of this sort
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has a chance of getting their story uploaded,
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being seen, being watched,
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that they really know that they can be heard,
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that there would be a giant website,
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maybe, a little like Google Earth,
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and you could fly over and find out the realities of what's going,
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for the world's inhabitants. In a way
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what this technology is allowing is, really,
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that a lot of the problems of the world can have a human face,
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that we can actually see who's dying of AIDS
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or who's being beaten up, for the first time,
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and we can hear their stories in a way that the blogger culture --
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if we can move that into these sort of fields,
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I think we can really transform the world in all sorts of ways.
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There could be a new movement growing up,
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rising from the ground, reaching for the light,
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and growing strong, just like a tree. Thank you.
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