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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: Yanyan Hong
00:13
It was June 2014.
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2014 年 6 月,
00:16
I was 30 years old,
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我 30 歲,
00:19
and I received a call
from my doctor's office
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我的醫生的辦公室打了通電話給我,
00:21
to say my test results were in.
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說我的檢驗結果出來了。
00:24
So I walked up to see her
in my lunch break, and my doctor said
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所以,我在午休時間
去找我的醫生,她說
00:28
she was very sorry to tell me
that I had breast cancer.
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她非常遺憾要告訴我,我得了乳癌。
00:34
I didn't want to believe her
and at first, I didn't.
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我不想相信她,
一開始,我的確不相信。
00:38
You see, I'm a lawyer
and I needed some evidence.
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要知道,我是個律師,我需要證據。
00:42
So I'm very embarrassed to tell you all
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所以,我非常不好意思地告訴各位,
00:45
that I stood up and I walked around
to where she was sitting
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我站起來,繞到她坐的地方後面,
00:49
so that I could look
over her shoulder and verify
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這樣我才能從她肩上看到並確認
00:52
what was written
on the page in front of her.
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她面前的那張紙上寫了什麼。
00:54
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:55
Malignant carcinoma.
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惡性腫瘤。
00:57
But still not wanting
to believe it, I said,
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但我還是不願相信,我說:
01:01
"Now, malignant carcinoma,
you're sure that means cancer?"
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「惡性腫瘤,你確定
它的意思就是癌症嗎?」
01:06
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:08
She told me she was sure.
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她告訴我,她很肯定。
01:11
Back at work, I handed over
the urgent things that needed to be done
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回到工作上,我把
需要處理的急事都交付出去,
01:14
while I was having more tests
to see if my cancer had spread.
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同時我接受更多檢測,
看我的癌症是否有擴散。
01:18
But at that moment,
work wasn't my priority.
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但在那時刻,
工作不是我的第一要務。
01:23
I was thinking about how I was going
to tell my family and friends
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我在想的是,我要如何
告訴我的家人和朋友
01:26
that I had cancer.
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我得了癌症。
01:28
How I was going to answer their questions
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他們可能會問我一些問題,
01:30
about how bad it was
and whether I was going to be OK,
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比如狀況有多糟,我是否會沒事,
而我都不知道答案,要如何回答?
01:33
when I didn't know that myself.
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01:36
I was wondering if my partner and I
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我在納悶,我的另一半和我
01:38
would ever have an opportunity
to start a family.
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是否會有機會成家。
01:41
And I was figuring out
how I was going to tell my mother,
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我在想著,我要如何告訴我媽媽,
01:44
who had herself had breast cancer
when she was pregnant with me.
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她自己在懷我的時候也得了乳癌。
01:49
She would know how I was feeling
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她會懂我的感受
01:51
and have an idea of what lay ahead for me.
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且知道我接下來要面對什麼。
01:53
But I also didn't want her
to have to relive her cancer experience.
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但我也不想讓她
再走過一次她的癌症經驗。
01:59
What I didn't appreciate at the time
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我當時還不知道,
02:01
was that work was about to play
a huge role in my treatment and recovery.
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工作將會在我的治療和恢復中
扮演很重要的角色。
02:07
That it would be my coworkers and my job
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後來是我的同事和我的工作
02:10
that would make me feel valuable and human
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讓我覺得我有價值、我是人,
02:12
at times when I would have
otherwise felt like a statistic.
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要不然,我那時可能
會覺得自己只是統計數字。
02:16
That it would be my job
that would give me routine and stability
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是我的工作給了我
例行公事和穩定性,
02:20
when I was dealing with so many
difficult personal decisions
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那時我需要處理好多困難的個人決定
02:23
and so much uncertainty.
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和好多的不確定性。
02:25
Like, what sort of breast
reconstruction I was going to have.
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比如,我要做哪一種乳房重建。
02:30
And at a time like that,
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在那樣的時刻,
02:32
you would think that I would turn
to my family and friends for support.
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你們可能會認為,
我應該向家人朋友尋求支持。
02:35
And yes, of course I did that.
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是的,當然我有這麼做。
02:39
But it would ultimately be my colleagues
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但最終還是我的同事
02:41
who would play a huge role
in my day-to-day life.
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在我每天的生活中扮演重要的角色。
02:46
And they would be
the ones to make me laugh.
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讓我笑的人是他們。
02:49
You see, we were a pretty close team,
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我們是個很親密的團隊,
02:52
and we shared a couple
of really good in-jokes,
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我們有一些只有自己人
才知道的笑話,
02:55
like this time they overheard
someone ask me
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比如,有一次他們
不小心聽到有人問我
02:59
how I got my hair so shiny and perfect --
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怎樣能使頭髮如此閃亮、完美──
03:04
without knowing that it was,
of course, a wig,
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卻完全不知道,那是假髮,
03:07
and you know, it was a very good wig
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而且那是頂很好的假髮,
03:09
and it did make getting ready
in the mornings very easy.
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它也讓早上起床之後的
梳妝整理變得很容易。
03:12
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:13
But in little moments like this,
I appreciated what their support meant,
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但像這樣的小小時刻,
我很感謝他們的支持帶給我的意義,
03:18
and I wondered what I would
have done without that network.
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若沒有那支持關係,
我不知道我該怎麼辦。
03:22
I've spoken with so many people,
women in particular,
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我和好多人談過,特別是女性,
03:26
who haven't had the chance
to have that network
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都是沒有機會擁有那種關係網絡的人,
03:29
because they haven't been given
the opportunity to work through treatment.
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因為他們在治療的過程中
都沒有機會工作。
03:35
And there are several reasons for this.
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這背後有好幾個原因。
03:37
But I think it mostly comes down
to overly paternalistic employers.
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但我認為主要的原因是
僱主太過家長作風了。
03:42
These employers want you to go away
and focus on yourself.
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這些僱主希望你走開,
專注在自己身上就好。
03:47
And come back when you're better.
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當你比較好之後再回來。
03:50
And they use those kinds of phrases.
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他們會用像那樣的說詞。
03:53
And while these responses
are well-meaning,
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雖然他們的這些反應都是出於好意,
03:56
knowing the benefits it brought me,
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但我知道工作帶給我的益處,
03:58
it makes me incredibly frustrated
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所以當聽到癌症病人被告知
他們不能或不該工作時,
我就會覺得非常灰心,
04:01
when people are told
that they couldn’t or shouldn't work,
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04:05
when it's something that they want to do
and physically can do.
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因為他們想要工作,
且身體上也能夠辦到。
04:09
So I started to look into
what an employer is required to do
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所以我開始研究,當員工向僱主提出
04:12
when someone presents
with a cancer diagnosis.
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癌症診斷書時,僱主需要做什麼。
04:16
I discovered that under Australian law,
cancer is considered a disability.
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我發現,在澳洲法律中,
癌症被視為殘疾。
04:21
So if you are unable to perform
your usual work duties,
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所以,如果你無法進行
你平常的工作職責,
04:25
your employer is obligated
by the Disability Discrimination Act
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根據殘疾歧視法案,你的僱主有義務
04:29
to make reasonable adjustments
to your working arrangements,
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要針對你的工作安排做合理的調整,
04:32
so that you can continue to work.
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讓你能夠繼續工作。
04:36
What would reasonable
adjustments look like for me?
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對我來說,合理的調整是什麼樣的?
04:40
I knew the obvious impacts
my diagnosis was going to have on work.
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我知道我的診斷對於工作
會有哪些明顯的影響。
04:45
Medical appointments would be scheduled
during business hours,
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醫療診治的時間都排訂在上班時段,
04:48
and I knew that I would need time off
to recover from surgical procedures.
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我也知道在手術之後
我會需要時間恢復。
04:53
Again, being a typical lawyer,
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同樣的,身為很典型的律師,
04:55
I had done my due diligence
on what to expect from treatment.
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對於治療要有什麼樣的期待,
我已做了法律相關的盡職調查。
05:00
Admittedly, a lot of that
was through Doctor Google,
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無可否認,許多調查
是通過 Google 教授做的,
05:02
perhaps not my best move
and I wouldn't recommend that.
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那可能不是我最好的對策,
我不建議這麼做。
05:05
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:07
But while I was ready
for all the physical side effects,
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雖然我準備好迎接
所有身體上的副作用,
05:10
what really scared me
was this thing called chemo brain.
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真正讓我害怕的,
是所謂的「化療腦」。
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Chemo brain presents itself
through memory loss,
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化療腦出現的形式包括記憶喪失、
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an inability to concentrate
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無法專心,
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and an inability to solve problems.
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以及無法解決問題。
05:23
And if this happened to me,
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如果這發生在我身上,
05:25
I wondered how I was going to do
my job as a lawyer.
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我不知道我要如何做我的律師工作。
05:28
Would I be forced to leave work?
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我會被迫離開工作嗎?
05:30
And how could I possibly
have a discussion with my manager
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我怎麼可能和我的經理討論
05:35
about reasonable adjustments
to my working arrangements
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我的工作安排要做哪些合理調整,
05:38
when I didn't know
how I was going to be impacted?
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如果我連我會如何被影響都不知道?
05:41
I was fortunate to have
a supportive manager
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我很幸運,有個支持我的經理,
05:45
who was happy to see
how things went as we went along,
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他很樂意隨著發展再看狀況如何,
05:48
rather than requiring
a concrete plan up front.
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而不是要求事前就要有具體的計畫。
05:53
I was lucky that while
he may not have even known
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我很幸運,他甚至可能不知道
05:56
about this concept
of reasonable adjustments,
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這個合理調整的觀念,
05:59
to him, it was just common sense.
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對他來說,這只是常識。
06:03
But I've learned that it's not
common sense to everyone.
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但我發現這並非對所有人都是常識。
06:08
Everyone going through treatment
will learn how it impacts them
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所有要經歷治療的人,
都會了解到治療對他們的影響,
06:11
and what their limitations are.
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以及他們的限制是什麼。
06:14
And they'll learn to adjust for that.
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他們會學會做相應的調整。
06:16
So for me, there were the tips and tricks
that I learned about the treatment itself,
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所以,對我來說,關於治療本身,
我學到了一些密訣和訣竅,
06:21
like, before you go to chemo,
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比如,在你去化療之前,
06:23
you need to make sure
you're really well hydrated
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你得要確保你自己有足夠的水分,
06:25
and that you're warm, because it helps
the nurses to find your veins.
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且要注意保暖,因為那樣
能協助護士找到你的靜脈。
06:29
And make sure that you don't eat
any of your favorite food,
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還要確保你不吃任何你最愛的食物,
06:32
either before or after chemo,
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化療前或化療後都不行,
06:34
because you're going to be
throwing that up
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因為你會把它吐出來,
06:36
and you won't ever
want to look at it again.
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且你永遠不會想要再看它一眼了。
06:38
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:40
I learned that one the hard way.
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這點我是從痛苦經驗學來的。
06:42
And then there were the tricks
for managing my workflow.
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另外,還有關於管理
我的工作流程的訣竅。
06:45
I scheduled chemo for first thing
on a Monday morning.
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我把化療安排為
星期一早上的第一件事。
06:49
I knew that from the time
I left the cancer care unit,
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我知道從我離開癌症照護單位之後,
06:52
I had about four hours
before this fog screen would come down
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我會有大約四小時時間,
接著霧幕就會出現,
06:56
and I would start to be sick.
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我就會開始不舒服。
06:58
So I would use that time to clean my inbox
and make any urgent calls.
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我會用那段時間,清理我的
收件匣並打一些緊急的電話。
07:04
The worst of the sickness would be gone
within about 48 hours.
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最不舒服的狀況會在
48 小時以內就過去。
07:08
And then I would log back
into work from home.
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接著我會從家中開始工作。
07:12
This treatment continued
and I knew what to expect.
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治療繼續下去,
而我知道該預期什麼。
07:15
I was able to set reasonable expectations
with my business partners
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我能夠和我的生意伙伴
設下合理的期望,
07:18
about what I could do
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關於我能做些什麼,
07:20
and the time frames that I could do it in.
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以及我要多少時間來完成期望。
07:23
But I still remember
the hesitation in their voices
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但我還記得,他們帶著
遲疑的聲音來找我,
07:27
when it came to asking for things.
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要求我做一些事,
07:29
And asking me to do things
by a certain time.
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要求我在某個時限內完成事情。
07:32
And trust me, these were people
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相信我,這些人都
07:34
that were not afraid
of setting a good deadline.
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不怕設下好的截止期限。
07:36
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:38
I got the impression they didn't want
to put any extra pressure on me
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我的印象是,他們不想
在我身上增加額外的壓力,
07:42
while I was going through treatment.
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因為我一邊要接受治療。
07:44
And while I appreciated the sentiment,
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雖然我很感謝那樣的情操,
07:46
I actually needed the deadlines.
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我其實是需要截止期限的。
07:49
To me, that was something
within my control
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對我來說,那是我能控制的東西,
07:51
and something
that could stay in my control
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且是我能持續控制的東西,
07:54
when there were so many
things that couldn't.
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在這時期有太多我無法控制的了。
07:57
And as I was working from home,
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當我在家工作時,
08:00
I was thinking about how employers
should be applying this concept
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我在想在我們目前
這個時代,僱主要如何把
08:03
of reasonable adjustments
in our current age,
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這合理調整的概念實際應用出來,
08:06
where one in two Australian men and women
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現在,在澳洲,每兩位
男性及女性中就有一位,
08:10
will be diagnosed with cancer
by the age of 85.
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會在 85 歲之前被診斷出癌症。
08:13
So, as we continue to work
longer and longer into older age,
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隨著我們在職場上工作越久,
我們的年齡也在增長,
08:18
the chances of having a serious illness
while we're in the workforce
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在職場上工作時
得到嚴重疾病的可能性
08:22
are increasing.
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也在增加。
08:24
And with technology enabling us
to work anywhere, any time,
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現在科技讓我們可以
在任何地方、任何時間工作,
08:29
reasonable adjustments
are no longer contingent upon
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合理調整就不再受限於
08:33
whether or not you can continue
to physically make it
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你是否能持續實際去
實體的辦公室工作。
08:36
into the physical office.
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08:39
Reasonable adjustments are also not about
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合理調整的重點也不在於
08:41
just offering a longer break
or a comfier chair to sit in,
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提供更長的休息時間
和更舒服的座椅,
08:45
although those things might be good, too.
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不過能有這些也不賴。
08:48
At the very least,
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最少,
08:50
we need to be applying
the flexibility policies and strategies
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我們必須要能夠實施我們為其他情況
08:53
we've developed for other scenarios,
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發展出來彈性政策和策略,
08:55
like for people
with family responsibilities.
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比如為了有家庭責任的人所發展的。
08:59
But how can we ensure that people
are even having a conversation
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但我們要如何確保大家有機會進行
09:04
about what reasonable adjustments
might look like for them
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怎樣合理調整才適合的對話,
09:07
if a manager's first response is to say,
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如果經理的第一個反應就是說:
09:10
"Oh no, don't come back to work
until you're better."
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「喔,不,在你好轉之前
都別回來上班。」
09:15
And a light went on for me.
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而有一盞燈為我亮了起來。
09:17
It must be compulsory for managers
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經理和其旗下員工進行
09:19
to have to have these conversations
with their employees.
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這類對談,必須要是強制性的。
09:23
And lessons from people like me,
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像我這樣子在治療過程中,
09:26
that have really benefited
from working through treatment,
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持續工作而受益的人所學到的教訓,
09:29
need to be more widely shared.
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需要被廣泛分享出去。
09:31
And I thought about what could be done
to guide these conversations,
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我思考過能怎樣引導這類對談,
09:35
and then an amazing
colleague of mine, Camilla Gunn,
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然後我有一位了不起的同事
卡蜜拉甘恩(Camilla Gunn),
09:39
developed a "Working with Cancer" toolkit.
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發展出了一套
「帶著癌症工作」工具組。
09:42
The toolkit provides a framework
for those diagnosed,
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這套工具組提供了一架構
給被診斷出癌症的人、
09:46
their managers, their carers
and their coworkers
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他們的經理、他們的照護者,
以及他們的同事,
09:49
to have conversations about cancer
and the work support available.
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讓他們能針對癌症
以及可得的工作支援進行對談。
09:54
Camilla and I have now been
to other organizations
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卡蜜拉和我現在已經去過一些組織,
09:56
to talk about the toolkit
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去談這套工具組,
09:57
and how it can help to guide through
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以及它如何能協助引導大家
10:00
what, quite frankly, are otherwise
some pretty awkward conversations.
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進行這些本來勢必會
相當尷尬的對談。
10:04
And I'm pleased to say that the uptake
of the toolkit is increasing.
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我很高興能夠說,
越來越多人在使用這套工具組。
10:10
So what should be
a manager's first response
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經理的第一個反應應該是什麼,
10:12
when somebody says that they're sick
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當聽到有人說他們生病了,
10:15
and they don't know
how it's going to impact their work?
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且不知道這疾病會
如何影響他們的工作?
10:18
It must be this:
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經理的反應必須要是這樣的:
10:20
"To the extent that you
are able, and want to,
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「在你能做到且想要做到的範圍內,
10:24
we would love to work out
an arrangement for you
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我們很樂意為你做出安排,
10:26
to continue to work through treatment."
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讓你能在治療過程中持續工作。」
10:29
We need to start positively engaging
people with serious illness
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我們需要開始積極吸引
患有嚴重疾病的人員,
10:33
to keep them in the workforce,
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讓他們繼續留在工作崗位上,
10:35
rather than paternalistically
pushing them away.
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而不是採取家長式的態度推開他們。
10:40
I've told you my story
because I want you to know the benefits
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我把我的故事告訴各位,
是因為我希望你們能夠了解
在治療期間持續工作帶給我的益處。
10:44
that working through treatment brought me.
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10:46
And I also want to change your perceptions
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我也想要改變各位的看法,
10:48
if you think that somebody
going through treatment
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如果你們覺得在接受治療的人
10:51
is just bored, frail and vomiting a lot.
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就是感到厭倦、虛弱,和常常嘔吐。
10:55
And yes, these things
were true some of the time,
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是的,的確,就算不是經常,
10:58
if not a lot of the time,
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至少也有時是這樣沒錯,
11:00
but I was also determined
to push myself at work
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但我也下決心,要在工作上盡全力,
11:03
as much as I had always done.
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就像我過去一直以來那樣。
11:05
And I was able to do that
because my employer gave me the choice.
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我之所以能夠做到,
是因為我的僱主給我這個選擇。
11:11
Most importantly, I'm telling you
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最重要的,我跟各位說這個故事,
11:13
because while it's a seemingly
obvious choice to give someone,
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是因為,雖然似乎本來就
應該要給予這個選擇,
11:17
it's not one that is always
offered or encouraged.
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通常,這個選擇卻沒有
被提供或被鼓勵提供。
11:21
And it must be.
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這是必須要做的。
11:23
Thank you.
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謝謝。
11:24
(Applause)
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