Björn Ulvaeus: How music streaming transformed songwriting | TED

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開始前,我想引用一句話
但係我唔知喺邊度嚟 所以好尷尬
不過佢講得好好:
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I'd like to start with a quote,
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「版權唔單止係對創作人公平
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but it's very embarrassing because I don't know where it comes from.
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亦可促進科學 藝術以及文化發展
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But it's very well put, and it goes like this:
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"Copyright is designed not only to provide fairness for authors,
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提升整個社會嘅生活質素。」
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but also to enhance the quality of life within a society
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換句話說
依家全球社會當務之急嘅係
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by promoting the progress of science, art and culture."
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令創作者喺經濟條件許可下創作
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In other words,
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the concept of making it economically feasible for creators to create
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我冇咩關於寫歌詞嘅回憶
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is now globally recognized as a social imperative.
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但係有個喺好耐之前嘅特別記憶
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I have very few memories writing lyrics to songs.
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我趴喺間細客房床上面
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But there is a particular one from long ago that I do remember.
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面前有本簿
隔離主人房入便
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I was lying on my stomach on a bed in a small guest room
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有我當時嘅老婆 Agnetha 瞓得好稔
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with a writing pad in front of me.
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01:08
In the master bedroom next door,
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喺我個腦入便 有段音樂唔停噉播緊
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my then wife, Agnetha, was sleeping undisturbed.
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所以唔需要喇叭 甚至係耳筒
仍然冇歌詞嘅旋律 係未開發嘅領域
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The music was playing in my head,
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01:21
so no need for speakers, not even headphones.
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作詞人必須小心噉處理
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A melody that still lacks words is virgin territory
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有時候喺紙上最後嘅歌詞
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upon which a lyricist must tread lightly.
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係作詞人深思熟慮嘅結果
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Some of the time, the final words on the page
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詞曲作家亦應該學識相信直覺
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are the result of hard work, deep thought
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不過有時會發生 意想不到嘅事
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and the intuition that a songwriter must learn to trust.
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拉埋咗嘅窗簾,會突然間打開 旋律會浮現喺腦海
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But sometimes, extraordinary things happen;
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然後開始聯想起 不同嘅圖像同連串事件
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closed curtains are suddenly drawn, and the melody speaks to you
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你只需要寫低 見到啲咩
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and starts to conjure up images and even sequences of events.
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音樂創作人係 逐啲逐啲噉完成一首歌
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All you have to do is write it down, write down what you witnessed.
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但係間唔中會 突然間全部彈出嚟
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A song can come to its creator in bits and pieces.
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歌詞似乎喺腦裏便徘徊咗好耐
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But when it once in a while appears out of thin air in its entirety,
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亦或者係一直都好心急
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it seems to suggest it had already lingered there, God knows how long,
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想俾聽覺靈敏嘅人聽到
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perhaps impatiently waiting to be plucked down
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就好似透過思維境界 穿過咗啱嘅渠道嚟到地球
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by someone with a keen and sensitive ear,
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02:36
as if it needed the right vessel to flow through
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我完成嗰陣就極之開心
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from the realm of ideas all the way down to earth.
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我感激音樂本身
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I was deliriously happy when I had finished.
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感激呢種難以捉摸 無法定義嘅現象、純粹存在
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At that moment, I was grateful for music itself,
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冇經過我哋嘅大腦 就直接進入內心
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for the sheer existence of this elusive, undefinable phenomenon
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我好想大聲唱出嚟 但係嗰陣係凌晨兩點鐘
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that seems to ignore our brains and go straight to our hearts.
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雖然樂極忘形
都唔想整醒個老婆 第二日佢會唱我嘅歌
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I wanted to sing it out loud, but it was two o'clock in the morning,
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03:10
and even in my euphoria,
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如果今日我同 Benny Andersson 作嗰首歌
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I had the good sense not to wake the woman who was to sing my words the next day.
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你可能唔會有機會聽到
由於佢只係其中一首——
03:19
If Benny Andersson and I had written that song today,
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每日有八萬首上載到串流平台嘅新歌 呢首歌可能又係幻滅嘅創作夢想
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you might not have gotten to hear it.
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It could have been just another lost dream,
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03:28
[one of] about 80,000 new songs uploaded to streaming services
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今時今日嘅競爭激烈
比 1977 年更加厲害
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every single day.
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03:37
The competition today is fierce,
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就算 Spotify 用戶經常點擊我哋嘅歌
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much fiercer than it was back in 1977.
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專利費絕對交唔起任何人嘅租屋錢
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And even if our song had been clicked very often by Spotify subscribers,
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今日我想講嘅係
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chances are slim that the royalties would have paid anyone's rent.
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喺比較簡單同容易 預測嘅樂壇做詞曲創作人
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So what I want to talk to you about today
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04:00
is how I see the changes in the song economy
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點樣睇歌曲經濟嘅改變
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using my perspective of what it was like to be a songwriter
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依家所有嘅嘢 都係用數據記低
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when the music industry was simpler and perhaps more predictable.
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數據話俾我哋知
串流平台嘅聽眾通常都係聽 佢哋鐘意嘅歌
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These days, everything is tracked by our data.
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而唔係鐘意嘅歌手
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And data from streaming tells us
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04:22
that listeners much more often click their favorite song
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佢地有時甚至唔係好肯定 聽緊邊個歌手嘅歌
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than their favorite artist
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如果係音樂播放列表
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on a streaming service.
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如果我哋更加關心首歌嘅話
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Sometimes they're not even sure who it is they're listening to,
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噉詞曲作家呢?
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if it's a playlist, for example.
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詞曲作家 一路都唔俾人重視
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So if we're paying more attention to the song, though,
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04:41
what about the songwriter?
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04:43
Songwriters have been forced into the back seat,
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我擔心佢哋會係 改變下嘅受害者
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and I would even say, bungled into the trunk.
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04:51
My concern is that songwriters are at risk of becoming invisible victims
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現在音樂嘅產業 變咗係歌曲經濟
但係創作首歌嘅人得益最小
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of the change that is taking place.
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05:00
The music business is now a song economy.
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究竟件事係點樣發生㗎?
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Yet the creators of the songs that fuel it get the smallest slice of the pie.
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我暫時唔會建議讓時光倒流
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How did that happen?
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噉樣做,你哋會懷疑係 出自過氣流行歌星嗰把口
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I am not, for one moment, about to suggest that we should turn back the clock,
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不過喺過去十年發生嘅事
有機會對詞曲創作人 產生難以置信嘅積極影響
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which you may have suspected from an old pop star.
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但係我依家會講下串流革命
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But what's happened in the last decade
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05:28
has the potential to be incredibly positive for songwriters.
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帶嚟意想不到嘅後果
點樣改變詞曲作家嘅生活
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Now, instead, I'm going to describe the unintended consequences
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之後,我會表達啲方案
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of the streaming revolution,
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去解決帶嚟意想不到嘅影響
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how they are reshaping the lives of songwriters.
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And then, I will present some proposals
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我哋依家有個 寫作同製作音樂最佳嘅時機
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for how the impact of these unintended consequences can be addressed.
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任何人都會有機會 搵到全球嘅觀眾
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It has never been a better time to be writing and making music.
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如果佢哋想
自己仲可以嘗試做 就唔使靠唱片公司或者音樂出版商
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Anyone today has the potential to find a global audience,
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06:00
and if they so choose,
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成個音樂軟件產業正在掘起
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they can even try to do that on their own, without a record label or music publisher.
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為新一代嘅詞曲創作人服務
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A whole music software industry is emerging,
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串流形成咗新嘅音樂模式
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serving the needs of a new generation of artists and songwriters.
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自從 2020 年因疫情關係 現場音樂表演停咗
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Streaming has enabled this new music paradigm.
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好多藝人都發現 單靠串流平台係搵唔到食
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Once the pandemic stopped live music in 2020,
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有啲藝人要返去同父母一齊住
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many artists realized that they couldn't pay their bills on streaming alone.
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有啲就揸 Ubers 勉強維持生計
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Some have moved back in with their parents,
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喺以前串流唔多唔少 都係宣傳佢哋嘅巡迴同現場表演
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and others are driving Ubers to make ends meet.
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呢啲表演佔佢哋大部分嘅收入
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Previously, streaming had more or less been promotion for their tours,
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有趣嘅係,喺 70 年代 對 Abba 嚟講就相反啦
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and live appearances, by far providing most of their revenue.
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我哋嗰陣好少做巡迴表演 如果做,我地就會蝕錢
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It's funny, but it was exactly the opposite for Abba in the 70s.
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不過意思係巡迴表演 原本係用嚟宣傳專輯
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We hardly toured at all, and when we did, we lost money.
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所以冇乜所謂
再加上我都唔記得 我哋有冇埋怨過專利費嘅數額
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But, I mean, the touring was supposed to be promotion for the album
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但喺疫情期間啲音樂創作人好辛苦
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so that didn't matter.
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And I can't recall that we ever complained about the size of our royalties,
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串流同專利費突然變成咗 佢哋唯一嘅收入來源
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which the artists, during the pandemic, have done bitterly,
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我諗:「如果呢啲係對藝人嘅影響,」
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when streaming and royalties suddenly were the only source of income.
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「歡迎嚟到詞曲作家嘅世界。」
好多專業音樂創作人都冇巡迴演出
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"If this is the impact on artists," I thought,
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佢哋唔會賣 T恤同其他產品
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"welcome to the world of songwriters."
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佢哋係靠首歌搵食
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Most professional songwriters don't tour,
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但係連呢樣嘢都喺度改變緊
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they don't sell T-shirts or other merchandise ...
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因為串流嘅關係而喺度演變緊
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They rely on the song itself.
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亦都越嚟越多唱片公司
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But even that seems to be changing,
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07:46
because the song has evolved in response to streaming,
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同一大班詞曲作家合作
創造出幾乎話係基因改造嘅流行曲
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and it's increasingly common for record labels
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歌曲嘅編寫同結構方式係針對 串流平台所用嘅演算法去寫出嚟
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to get large teams of songwriters to work together,
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creating almost genetically modified hits.
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演算法仲決定埋我同你聽咩音樂
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Songs are written and structured in ways
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that are optimized for the algorithms that streaming services use
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近日有啲研究指出
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to decide what music you and I listen to.
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依家全美公告牌排行榜頭十首熱門歌曲 平均有五位創作人合寫
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Some research has been done to suggest that these days,
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而唔係一兩位,係五位 有時仲甚至係十位
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a Billboard Top 10 hit has, on average, five songwriters --
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除咗噉,佢哋仲要 寫多啲歌同寫得快啲
只係為咗跟得上串流平台嘅需求 創造出無窮無盡嘅新音樂
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not one or two, but five -- and sometimes even 10.
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And on top of this, they’re having to write more songs and more quickly,
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自從 ABBA 喺 1974 年 以《 滑鐵盧》贏咗歐洲歌唱比賽之後
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simply to keep up with the insatiable demand
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08:35
for new music that streaming creates.
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突然間多咗好多版權費
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After ABBA had won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1974 with "Waterloo,"
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跟住我同 Benny 就可以全職寫歌
朝九晚五
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royalties suddenly came pouring in,
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做咗呢樣嘢之後,有好多唔同
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and Benny and I could afford to write songs full time,
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我哋寫嘅 95% 歌詞都可以唔要
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nine-to-five.
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08:57
That made such a huge difference.
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淨係留返最好嘅歌詞
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We could afford to throw away 95 percent of what we wrote
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我哋學識咗分辨唔好嘅歌詞
如果你想作到更好嘅歌詞 呢樣技巧係必須嘅
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and just keep the very, very best.
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09:08
We learned how to recognize garbage,
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版權費淨係提供咗 時間同創作自由
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and that's essential if you want to get good at your craft.
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唔使講,你唔會有呢啲嘅嘢
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Royalties simply gave us time and creative freedom.
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如果你時間倉猝 再加上有人時刻監視住你
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Needless to say, you will have neither
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業界令好多詞曲創作人 更難建立持續嘅職業生涯
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if you’re in a hurry and someone is breathing down your neck all the time.
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09:32
The industrial approach to songwriting is making it harder
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成功嘅就會好成功
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for many songwriters to build sustainable careers.
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無咁成功嘅,但曾經 以創作詞曲為生嘅人
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Those that are successful are very successful,
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真係好辛苦
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but those in the layers below,
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佢地變咗服務嗰個系統 而唔係系統服務佢哋
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who used to be able to make a living from songwriting,
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09:51
are really suffering.
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呢度有三個關鍵嘅痛點
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They are becoming parts of a system that they serve more than it serves them.
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首先,串流服務俾錄音嘅錢
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And here are three key pain points.
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係歌曲作品嘅四倍
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Firstly, streaming services typically pay out about four times more
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即係話詞曲作家喺線上 收聽收入比藝人還要少
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for the recording than they do the composition,
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呢樣係以前留低嘅問題
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which means a streaming income is even smaller for songwriters
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當時錄音同實體產品都係好貴
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than it is for artists.
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所以錄音佔多啲收入都係合理
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It's a legacy from the past,
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10:24
when recordings and the packaging of physical products were very expensive,
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但依家唔同咗
呢啲改變仲未反映 喺點分配版權費
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so a larger share for the recording was justified.
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第二
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But that has changed.
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連串流服務點俾版權費都係有問題
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But the change has not yet been reflected in the division of royalties.
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每個月 9.99 美元嘅訂閱費會先俾中央處理
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Secondly,
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even the way that streaming services pay royalties is problematic.
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然後根據嗰個月嘅網絡流量分配
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A listener’s monthly 9.99 subscription goes into a central pot,
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決定咗每一次下載流量或者收聽嘅價值
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which then gets divided by the total number of streams that month.
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即係話如果你有聽 Arne Jansen 嘅爵士三重奏
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That decides the value of one stream, or listen.
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喺過去嗰個月 聽咗呢首歌 50 次
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This means that you if you have streamed Arne Jansen's jazz trio,
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而你鄰居個女聽咗 Justin Bieber 首歌 5,000 次
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if you have done that 50 times in the past month,
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你嘅 9.99 美元只有一小部份 係俾 Arne Jansen
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and the neighbor’s teenage daughter has streamed Justin Bieber 5,000 times,
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Justin Bieber 冇做錯任何嘢
11:25
only a small fraction of your 9.99 will go to Arne Jansen.
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但係又點可以支持 你最鍾意嘅藝人呢?
另外一個大問題係 好差嘅元數據
11:32
Nothing wrong with Justin Bieber,
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but how does that reward your favorite artist?
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元數據係指首歌同埋 有關佢錄音嘅資訊
11:39
And thirdly, bad metadata is a big problem,
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好多時加入串流服務嘅錄音
11:44
metadata being the relevant information about a song and its recording.
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有關資料都係唔準確
例如係漏咗創作人個名
11:50
Very often, recordings are injected into a streaming service
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亦即係話串流服務唔知道 應該傳送版權費去俾邊個
11:54
without accurate data.
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The name of the writer is missing, for instance.
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所以啲錢就放咗喺所謂嘅「黑盒」
12:00
That means that the streaming service doesn't know where to send the royalties,
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即係擺咗喺度
最近
20 間串流服務 發放咗 42.4 億美元
12:05
and the money is put in a so-called "black box."
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12:10
Just sits there.
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去美國一間非牟利機構
12:12
Recently,
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12:13
20 streaming services distributed 424 million dollars
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原意係搵返應該收嗰筆錢啲人
12:20
to a US nonprofit organization,
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件事將需要數年時間—— 若果找到佢哋嘅話
12:23
which is supposed to try and find the rightful recipients of all that money.
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所有問題加起上嚟
正喺為詞曲作家創造一場完美風暴
12:29
It will take years -- if they ever find them.
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過去十年,我見到嘅情況 只係越嚟越差
12:33
The combination of all these issues and others
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12:36
are creating a perfect storm for songwriters.
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而喺最近五年
12:40
Over the last decade, I've watched this situation get progressively worse.
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我有參與解決呢啲問題嘅計劃
12:46
And during the past five years,
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噉我可以點幫呢?
首先
12:48
I've been engaged in projects that aim to do something about it.
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有你哋今日喺到聽我講
12:54
So how can I help?
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當然我係想做啲嘢 引起關注
12:55
Well, first of all,
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但係我唔淨止想更多人關注
12:59
I have you all here today listening to me,
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13:02
and that's, of course, what I want to do -- to raise awareness.
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我亦想幫助業界確定解決嘅方案
13:07
But I want to do more than just raise awareness of the issues.
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呢度係好多項建議嘅其中幾項
13:11
I also want to help the industry identify solutions.
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第一:以粉絲為中心嘅專利費
13:16
And here are a few suggestions,
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為咗確保所有詞曲創作人公平得到收入
13:19
out of many.
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13:22
One: fan-centric royalties.
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我建議串流服務以每位聽眾嘅行為
13:26
In order to ensure that all songwriters get paid fairly,
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分配專利費
13:30
I suggest that streaming services allocate their royalty payments
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每人得到嘅都應該係除以
13:36
based on the behavior of individual listeners.
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每位聽眾每個月聽咗幾多首歌
13:41
The individual description should be divided by the number of songs
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令到每首歌都有價值
13:46
the individual listener has played during a month.
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假如訂閱費係 9.99 美元
而個聽眾都係喺嗰個月 聽咗 10 次 Arne Jansen
13:53
That gives each song a value.
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13:55
If the subscription is 9.99,
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每首歌值 0.99 美元 差唔多係一蚊
13:58
and the listener has played 10 Arne Jansen, again,
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呢個將會係俾 Arne Jansen 嘅數目
14:03
songs that month,
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14:06
each song has the value of .99, almost a dollar,
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根據現時系統
你可以肯定 Arne 會得到
14:10
and that's the amount that will be paid to Arne Jansen.
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大概 0.00 美元
14:15
Under the current system,
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所以呢項以粉絲為中心嘅方法 去分配專利費係更加公平
14:17
you can be sure that Arne would get
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14:20
the value of .00-something dollars.
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亦都以 Deezer 同 SoundCloud 首先開始為基礎
14:24
So this fan-centric approach to royalties will bring much-needed fairness
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不過要改善串流服務專利費
14:30
and can build on the important starts made by Deezer and SoundCloud.
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最簡單同最有效嘅方法可能係
串流平台收多啲錢
14:36
But perhaps the simplest and most effective way
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14:40
to improve streaming royalties
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串流服務已經有多過十年都係 9.99 美元
14:43
would be for streaming services to increase how much they charge.
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但係 Netflix 就好似每星期都加價
14:49
Streaming pricing has been stuck at ridiculous 9.99 for more than a decade.
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研究顯示訂閱咗嘅人會俾多啲
14:55
Meanwhile, Netflix seems to increase its pricing every week.
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9.99 美元好容易 就會變成 11.99 美元
甚至係 12.99 美元
15:00
Research shows that subscribers will pay more;
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第三:係就係麻煩啲 但係必須要註冊
15:04
9.99 could quite easily become 11.99,
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15:08
perhaps even 12.99.
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無論嗰八萬首新歌 係喺邊度打入咗音樂市場
15:11
And thirdly: the tedious but absolutely necessary registration.
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都應該要有簡單易用嘅註冊網站
15:18
Wherever the 80,000 new songs per day make their entry into the music industry,
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確保盡早記低嗰個作品嘅相關資料
15:25
there should be user-friendly registration portals
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噉樣就會減低 黑盒問題同矛盾喇
15:29
to make sure that relevant information about the work is captured early.
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我認為呢樣係集體管理組織嘅義務
15:35
This would diminish the problem with black boxes and conflicts.
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佢哋係負責收取創作人嘅版權費
要做到與時並進 及科技現代化嘅系統
15:40
In my view, it is an obligation for collecting societies,
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15:44
who collect creators' royalties at source,
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我知道我喺度一口氣講咁多
15:47
to modernize and to adapt their technology to the digital age.
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關於音樂界嘅建議係好容易——
15:53
I know it's easy for me to stand here in front of you
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點都會容易過去做呢啲建議
15:57
and reel off a list of suggestions for the industry --
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不過我哋的確要改變
越快越好
16:01
much easier than making these changes happen.
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最重要係成個音樂產業嘅改變
16:06
But change does need to happen,
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16:09
and soon.
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需要各部分嘅共同努力
16:10
Crucially, this change needs to be brought about
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首歌同詞曲創作人扮演最重要嘅角色
16:14
by the music industry as a whole,
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由錄音到現場表演都係
16:18
each part working together.
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16:21
The song and the songwriter fuel everything,
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如果隊樂隊冇好歌 T恤都唔會賣得出
16:25
from the recording through to live performances,
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其中有啲歌 創造咗我嘅回憶
16:29
even a T-shirt would not sell if the band hadn't good songs.
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係 Everly Brothers
16:36
I have created memories to some of those songs,
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係 Beatles
Elton John 等等
16:41
from the Everly Brothers
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有陣時會有讓我感到驚訝 而刺耳嘅歌曲結尾
16:45
and then the Beatles,
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16:47
Elton John and many more,
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但好快就會被佢哋純粹嘅美妙調子
16:51
songs that sometimes would surprise me with a stab of ending,
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同激發起嘅靈感所沖淡
我知道佢哋咩意思
16:57
quickly washed away by their sheer beauty
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同埋佢哋對我有咩意義
17:01
and the inspiration that they gave me.
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我成日都喺度諗: 如果我哋冇咗音樂會係點呢?
17:04
I know what they mean
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17:06
and what they meant to me.
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我相信係冇咁有人性
17:09
I've often wondered: What would we be without music?
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如果我哋聽唔到音樂 噉樣仲會對乜嘢充耳不聞呢?
17:16
Less human, I'm convinced of that.
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不過睇嚟我哋從來都冇諗過
17:19
If we couldn't hear music, then what else would we be deaf to?
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就算音樂成日都圍繞住我哋
17:25
But we never seem to think about that,
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依家正係成個樂壇要支持
17:27
even though music is all around us all of the time.
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呢個無疑係最有價值嘅資產
17:33
This is the moment for the entire music industry to invest in supporting
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呢個有問題嘅系統 困擾住太多詞曲創作人
17:38
what is, without a doubt, its most valuable asset.
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我頭先講過嘅解決方法 可以平衡返音樂嘅經濟
17:43
Far too many songwriters out there are suffering in this creaking system.
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令更多詞曲創作人對聽眾
17:48
Solutions like those that I have outlined could help rebalance the song economy
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能夠退後一步講
首歌就係我一開始要講嘅嘢
17:55
so that more songwriters and their listeners
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will be able to lean back and say, in all honesty,
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「多謝你嘅音樂。」
18:03
exactly what I said in the song that I was talking about in the beginning:
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"Thank you for the music."
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