CRISPR's Next Advance Is Bigger Than You Think | Jennifer Doudna | TED

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翻译人员: psjmz mz 校对人员: suya f.
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The essence of being human is that we solve problems.
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人类的本质是解决问题。
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And when we're faced with enormous problems
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当我们面对像疾病和气候变化
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like disease and climate change,
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这样的很多问题时,
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we need to solve them by collaboration.
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我们需要通过合作来解决问题。
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I'm excited to tell you about a new kind of collaboration
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我很兴奋地告诉你们一种新的合作
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that will absolutely create solutions to these big problems.
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将绝对可以为这些 重大问题提供解决方案。
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It's a collaboration that's unexpected
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这是一种意想不到的合作
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because it's between humans
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因为它位于人类
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and the tiniest organisms that populate our planet:
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和我们星球上的最微小的生物:
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the bacteria and other microbes that live in, on and around us.
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细菌和其他生活在我们周围的微生物。
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Bacteria may be small and unseen,
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细菌可能很小看不见,
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but they often have inspired transformative innovations,
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但它们往往激发了革命性的创新,
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including the one that has become the cornerstone of my own research.
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包括我自己研究的基石。
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Over the past decade, I've been at the forefront
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过去几十年,我一直处于
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of developing a revolutionary technology called CRISPR
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开发CRISPR这种 革命性技术的前线,
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that has come from the study of how bacteria fight viral infection.
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该技术来自细菌如何 对抗病毒感染的研究。
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CRISPR is amazing because it allows us
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CRISPR的神奇之处 在于它可以让我们
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to precisely edit the DNA in living organisms,
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在包括人类和植物的生物体中
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including in people and plants.
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精确编辑DNA。
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With CRISPR, we can change, remove or replace the genes
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凭借CRISPR,
我们可以改变、移除或替代
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that govern the function of cells.
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控制细胞功能的基因。
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This means that we now have the ability to use CRISPR like a word processor
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这意味着我们现在拥有了像 文字处理器那样去使用 CRISPR
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to find, cut and paste text.
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查找、剪切和粘贴文本的能力。
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CRISPR, amazingly, has already cured people of devastating disorders
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CRISPR,令人惊叹的是, 已经治愈了像镰状细胞病
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like sickle cell disease,
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那样严重的疾病
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and it's created rice plants
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并且它创造出来的水稻
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that are resistant to both diseases and drought.
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既能抗病又能抗旱。
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Incredible, right?
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难以置信,对吧?
01:43
But the next world-changing advance with CRISPR
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但下一次 CRISPR 改变世界的进步
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will actually come from using it in a way
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将来自它的一种使用方法
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that will allow us to go to the next level
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这将会让我们进入
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by editing genes beyond just in individual organisms.
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超越编辑个体生物基因的下一个水平。
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We now have the ability to use CRISPR
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我们现在拥有能力 可以使用 CRISPR
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to edit entire populations of tiny microbes,
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去编辑整个微生物种群,
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called microbiomes,
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即生活在我们体内和身体上
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that live in and on our bodies.
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的微生物组。
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For decades, scientists studied bacteria one organism at a time,
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几十年来,科学家一次只研究一个细菌,
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as if each type of bacteria behaved independently.
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就好像每个细菌行为独立似的。
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But we now know that bacterial behaviors,
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但我们现在知道细菌行为,
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both good and bad,
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不管好还是坏,
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result from their interactions within complex microbiomes.
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是它们在复杂微生物群中 相互作用的结果。
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In humans, dysfunctional gut microbiomes
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在人类中,功能失调 的肠道微生物组
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are associated with diseases as diverse as Alzheimer's and asthma.
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与阿尔茨海默病和 哮喘等多种疾病有关。
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And in farm animals, microbiomes produce methane,
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在农场动物中, 微生物群产生的甲烷,
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a powerful contributor to climate change.
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是造成气候变化的重要因素。
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But when they're healthy,
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但当它们健康时,
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both human and animal microbiomes can actually prevent disease
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人类和微生物组可以预防疾病
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and reduce methane emissions.
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和减少甲烷排放。
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So to harness these benefits,
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所以要获得这些好处,
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we need a way to precisely and reproducibly control
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我们需要一种精确和可重复控制
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these microbial communities.
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这些微生物群落的方法。
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So why have microbiomes been difficult to control in the past?
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那么为什么微生物群过去那么难控制?
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It turns out that microbiomes are very complex,
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原来是因为微生物群非常复杂,
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and they're difficult to manipulate.
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并且它们很难被操控。
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Antibiotics affect the entire microbiome
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抗生素影响了整个微生物群
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and their overuse can lead to drug resistance.
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并且它们的过度使用导致了抗药性。
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Diet and probiotics are nonspecific
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饮食和益生菌是非特异性的,
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and they're often ineffective.
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它们通常是无效的。
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Fecal transplants face various challenges to both effectiveness and acceptance.
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粪便移植在有效性和接受度 方面面临各种挑战。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:29
But with CRISPR, we have a tool that works like a scalpel.
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但有了CRISPR,我们有了 像外科手术刀那样的工具。
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It allows us to target a particular gene in a particular kind of cell.
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它使我们能够瞄准特定类型 细胞中的特定基因。
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With CRISPR, we can change one kind of bacterium
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有了CRISPR, 我们可以改变某一种细菌
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without affecting all the others.
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而不影响其他。
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Another challenge is that less than one percent of the world’s microbial species
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另一个挑战是世界上 不到1%的微生物种群
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have been grown and studied in the lab.
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在实验室生长和被研究过。
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Fortunately, we can now access the other 99 percent
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幸运的是,我们现在 可以接触另外 99%
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due to the pioneering research of my colleague, Jill Banfield,
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这归于我的同事 吉尔·班菲尔德(Jill Banfield)
的开创性的研究
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and her breakthrough technology,
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和她突破性的技术,
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metagenomics,
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宏基因组学,
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which is a tool that allows us to figure out
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这一种工具让我们可以搞清楚
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what species are present
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微生物群落中
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and what they're doing in a microbial community.
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存在哪些物种以及它们在做什么。
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Metagenomics creates a detailed blueprint of a complex microbiome,
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宏基因组学构建了一个 复杂微生物组的详细蓝图,
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and that means that we can use it
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这意味着我们可以使用它
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to figure out how to use gene editing tools
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去搞清楚如何在对的基因,对的生物体中
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in the right gene, in the right organism.
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使用基因编辑工具。
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You might be wondering how we can take this new knowledge
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你可能好奇我们如何使用这些新知识
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and harness it to solve real world problems.
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运用于解决现实世界的问题。
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Well, we're bringing together these two breakthrough technologies,
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我们是将宏基因组学和CRISPR
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metagenomics and CRISPR,
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这两种突破性的技术结合在一起
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to create a brand new field of science called precision microbiome editing.
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去创建这个被称为精确微生物组 编辑的全新科学领域。
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This will allow us to discover links between dysfunctional microbiomes
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这将使我们能够发现功能失调的微生物群
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and disease or greenhouse gas emissions.
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和疾病或者温室气体排放的联系。
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We can develop modified and improved microbiome editors
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我们可以开发修改和改进微生物编辑器
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and show that they're safe and effective.
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并证明它们是安全有效的。
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And we can then begin to deploy these optimized solutions
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然后我们就可以开始部署 这些改进后的解决方案
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to create the kinds of solutions that will be transformative in the future.
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去创造出在未来具有革命性的解决方案。
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So how does this affect our health and the health of our planet?
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那么这会如何影响我们的健康 和我们地球的健康?
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We know the poorest countries and people are the most affected by climate change,
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我们知道最贫穷的国家和人们 被气候变化影响最大,
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and it's a problem created by the wealthiest people.
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并且这个问题是最富裕的国家造成的。
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And methane is a big part of the problem.
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甲烷是主要的问题。
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It's been a major contributor to rising global temperatures
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从前工业时代开始, 它就是全球气温升高的
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since preindustrial times.
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主要因素。
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Specific microbiome compositions in livestock
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牲畜中特定微生物组的组成
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can actually reduce methane emissions by up to 80 percent.
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其实可以减少甲烷排放高达 80% 。
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But doing that today currently requires daily interventions at enormous expense,
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但现在的做法要求每天干预,成本巨大,
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and it just doesn't scale.
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并且无法规模化。
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But with precision microbiome editing,
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但通过精准微生物组编辑,
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we have an opportunity to modify a calf's microbiome at birth,
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我们有机会改变小牛出生时的微生物群,
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limiting that animal's impact on the climate for its entire lifetime.
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在动物的整个生命周期中 限制其对气候的影响。
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And this is beneficial for farmers
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这对农民也有益,
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because reduced methane production
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因为减少甲烷排放
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means more efficient conversion of feed into food.
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意味着更有效地将饲料转化为食物。
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Importantly, these tools can be used in the future
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重要的是,这些工具未来可以用于
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to reduce methane emissions from other sources,
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减少其他地方的甲烷排放,
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like landfills, wastewater and rice paddies.
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比如垃圾填埋场、废水和稻田。
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Ultimately, microbiomes generate
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最重要地,微生物群产生了
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up to two-thirds of all of the methane emissions globally.
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全球三分之二的甲烷排放量。
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So our technology could really move the needle
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因此,我们的技术可以真正推动
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in our fight against climate change.
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我们与气候变化的斗争。
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In human health,
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在人类健康领域,
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asthma affects up to 300 million people around the world,
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全世界有多达 3 亿人患有哮喘,
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a number that grows by 50 percent each decade,
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这个数字每十年增长 50% ,
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and it disproportionately affects lower-income children.
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并且不成比例地影响低收入儿童。
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Our team has identified a promising link
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我们团队已经识别出了
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between a molecule produced in the gut microbiome
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肠道微生物群中产生的分子与哮喘
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and asthma development.
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发展之间的关系。
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With precision microbiome editing,
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通过精确微生物组编辑,
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we could offer a child at risk for asthma a noninvasive therapy
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我们可以为有患哮喘风险 的孩子提供无创治疗
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that would eliminate asthma-inducing molecules,
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去消除诱发哮喘的分子,
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changing her life trajectory.
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改变她的人生轨迹。
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And what's really exciting
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真正让人兴奋的是
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is that these same approaches in the future could help us treat
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这些同样的方法未来可以帮助我们
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or even prevent human diseases
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治疗或者预防人类
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that are linked to the gut microbiome,
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与肠道微生物群有关的疾病,
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including obesity, diabetes and Alzheimer's.
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包括肥胖、糖尿病和老年痴呆症。
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I think it’s fascinating that we can now use CRISPR
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我想更让人着迷的是我们 现在可以使用 CRISPR
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to edit the same tiny organisms that gave us CRISPR.
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去编辑给予我们 CRISPR 的同种微生物体。
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In doing so, we’re collaborating with the ultimate partner: nature.
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通过这样做,我们 和终极的伙伴:自然合作。
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Together, we can use CRISPR-powered precision microbiome editing
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我们一起,可以使用基于 CRISPR 的精准微生物组编辑
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to build a more resilient future for all of us.
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去为我们所有人构建更有韧性的未来。
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Thank you very much.
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谢谢。
07:33
(Applause)
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