CRISPR's Next Advance Is Bigger Than You Think | Jennifer Doudna | TED

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譯者: 穎君 紀 審譯者: Shelley Tsang 曾雯海
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The essence of being human is that we solve problems.
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人之所以為人, 是因為我們會解決問題。
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And when we're faced with enormous problems
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當我們面臨巨大的難關,
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like disease and climate change,
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如疾病和氣候變遷,
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we need to solve them by collaboration.
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就必須攜手合作,一同解決問題。
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I'm excited to tell you about a new kind of collaboration
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我很期待要跟各位分享一種新合作型態,
00:19
that will absolutely create solutions to these big problems.
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它一定會找到這些大問題的解方。
00:24
It's a collaboration that's unexpected
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這合作型態在我們的意料之外,
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because it's between humans
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因為它包含了人類,
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and the tiniest organisms that populate our planet:
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和地球上最小的有機物:
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the bacteria and other microbes that live in, on and around us.
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我們生活環境周遭的細菌和微生物。
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Bacteria may be small and unseen,
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細菌雖然小到肉眼看不到,
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but they often have inspired transformative innovations,
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但它們常激盪出科學上劃時代的創新,
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including the one that has become the cornerstone of my own research.
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我的研究基礎也來自細菌。
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Over the past decade, I've been at the forefront
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過去十年以來,我都站在開發前線,
00:52
of developing a revolutionary technology called CRISPR
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研發一種嶄新的技術,名叫 CRISPR ,
00:57
that has come from the study of how bacteria fight viral infection.
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它源自細菌如何抵抗病毒的研究。
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CRISPR is amazing because it allows us
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CRISPR 很厲害,它讓我們能夠
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to precisely edit the DNA in living organisms,
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精準地編輯活體內的 DNA ,
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including in people and plants.
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包括人體和植物。
01:13
With CRISPR, we can change, remove or replace the genes
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有了 CRISPR ,就能移除或替換
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that govern the function of cells.
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主導細胞運作的基因。
01:20
This means that we now have the ability to use CRISPR like a word processor
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現在我們的技術已經能像 用文書處理軟體尋找、剪貼文字一般,
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to find, cut and paste text.
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精準地尋找、剪貼基因了。
01:29
CRISPR, amazingly, has already cured people of devastating disorders
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CRISPR 已治癒許多難病纏身的患者,
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like sickle cell disease,
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如鐮刀型貧血,
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and it's created rice plants
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還打造出稻米的新品種,
01:38
that are resistant to both diseases and drought.
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對疾病免疫,也不怕乾旱。
01:42
Incredible, right?
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很驚人吧?
01:43
But the next world-changing advance with CRISPR
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但下一項 CRISPR 的突破
01:46
will actually come from using it in a way
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源自能夠讓我們
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that will allow us to go to the next level
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更上一層樓的技術,
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by editing genes beyond just in individual organisms.
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能編輯不只單一個有機物的基因。
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We now have the ability to use CRISPR
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現在我們有足夠能力用 CRISPR
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to edit entire populations of tiny microbes,
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來編輯整群微生物,
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called microbiomes,
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也就是微生物群落,
02:08
that live in and on our bodies.
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在我們體內的那些微生物群落。
02:11
For decades, scientists studied bacteria one organism at a time,
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科學家幾十年來研究細菌的方式 都是一種一種分別研究,
02:15
as if each type of bacteria behaved independently.
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好像每種細菌都以不同方式運作,
02:19
But we now know that bacterial behaviors,
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但現在我們知道細菌的行為,
02:21
both good and bad,
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不論好壞,
02:22
result from their interactions within complex microbiomes.
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都是來自各個微生物群落間 複雜的相互作用。
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In humans, dysfunctional gut microbiomes
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人體腸胃裡不正常運作的微生物群落會
02:30
are associated with diseases as diverse as Alzheimer's and asthma.
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引起多樣的病症,如阿茲海默症和氣喘。
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And in farm animals, microbiomes produce methane,
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養殖動物方面,微生物群落製造甲烷,
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a powerful contributor to climate change.
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也就是氣候變遷的元兇。
02:41
But when they're healthy,
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不論人或動物,只要身體健康,
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both human and animal microbiomes can actually prevent disease
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體內的微生物群落其實都能預防疾病、
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and reduce methane emissions.
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減少甲烷排放。
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So to harness these benefits,
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為完整發揮這功效,
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we need a way to precisely and reproducibly control
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我們需要一種精準且可再現的方法
來控制微生物群落。
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these microbial communities.
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02:58
So why have microbiomes been difficult to control in the past?
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那為什麼微生物群落至今都這麼難控制呢?
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It turns out that microbiomes are very complex,
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原來是因為微生物群落非常錯綜複雜,
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and they're difficult to manipulate.
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很難操縱。
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Antibiotics affect the entire microbiome
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抗生素會波及到整個微生物群落,
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and their overuse can lead to drug resistance.
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濫用抗生素又可能產生抗藥性。
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Diet and probiotics are nonspecific
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飲食和益生菌帶來的影響非常籠統,
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and they're often ineffective.
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且大多時候並沒有顯著效用。
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Fecal transplants face various challenges to both effectiveness and acceptance.
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糞菌移植則是在有效度和 患者接受度面臨重重難關。
03:27
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:29
But with CRISPR, we have a tool that works like a scalpel.
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但現在 CRISPR 成為我們 手上類似手術刀的工具,
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It allows us to target a particular gene in a particular kind of cell.
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讓我們能精準找出 特定細胞裡的特定基因。
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With CRISPR, we can change one kind of bacterium
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有了 CRISPR ,我們就能 編輯單一種細菌,
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without affecting all the others.
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且不會波及到其他種。
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Another challenge is that less than one percent of the world’s microbial species
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另一項挑戰是,全世界的所有細菌裡, 只有不到 1% 的細菌
03:50
have been grown and studied in the lab.
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有被研究室培養、研究。
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Fortunately, we can now access the other 99 percent
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但,很幸運地,現在我們 能研究剩下的 99% 的細菌了。
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due to the pioneering research of my colleague, Jill Banfield,
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多虧了我同事吉爾・班菲爾德 開創先河的研究,
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and her breakthrough technology,
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以及先進的技術:
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metagenomics,
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總體基因體學,
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which is a tool that allows us to figure out
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一種讓我們釐清哪些菌種參與作用,和
04:06
what species are present
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and what they're doing in a microbial community.
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不同細菌在細菌群中如何行動的工具。
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Metagenomics creates a detailed blueprint of a complex microbiome,
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總體基因體學幫我們精確地 繪製出微生物群落的藍圖,
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and that means that we can use it
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我們能用這張藍圖
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to figure out how to use gene editing tools
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來計畫怎麼用基因編輯工具來編輯
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in the right gene, in the right organism.
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特定有機體裡需要修改的基因。
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You might be wondering how we can take this new knowledge
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你可能在想該如何應用這新技術
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and harness it to solve real world problems.
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來解決現實世界裡的問題。
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Well, we're bringing together these two breakthrough technologies,
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這個嘛,科學家正在嘗試結合 這兩個劃時代的創新技術,
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metagenomics and CRISPR,
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總體基因體學和 CRISPR ,
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to create a brand new field of science called precision microbiome editing.
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來開拓新的科學領域,名叫 「精準微生物群落編輯」,
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This will allow us to discover links between dysfunctional microbiomes
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讓研究員找出不正常運作的微生物群落
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and disease or greenhouse gas emissions.
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與疾病或溫室氣體排放的關聯。
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We can develop modified and improved microbiome editors
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我們能研發新版本的微生物群落編輯器,
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and show that they're safe and effective.
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向大家證明基因編輯安全又有效。
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And we can then begin to deploy these optimized solutions
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然後,開始利用這些更好的解決方案
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to create the kinds of solutions that will be transformative in the future.
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來創造出下一批劃時代的新技術。
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So how does this affect our health and the health of our planet?
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那,這技術跟我們和地球的 健康有什麼關聯呢?
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We know the poorest countries and people are the most affected by climate change,
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世界最貧窮的國家和人民 受到氣候變遷的影響最大,
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and it's a problem created by the wealthiest people.
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但氣候變遷是最富有的人們引起的。
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And methane is a big part of the problem.
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甲烷是氣候變遷裡的一大問題,
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It's been a major contributor to rising global temperatures
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它一直以來都是造成氣溫上升的主要原因
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since preindustrial times.
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從工業時代來臨前就從未改變。
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Specific microbiome compositions in livestock
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家畜體內特定的微生物群落組成
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can actually reduce methane emissions by up to 80 percent.
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最多可以減少 80% 甲烷排放量。
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But doing that today currently requires daily interventions at enormous expense,
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但現在實行的話,每天都需要介入,成本太高,
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and it just doesn't scale.
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且無法大規模施行。
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But with precision microbiome editing,
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但有了精準編輯微生物群落的技術,
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we have an opportunity to modify a calf's microbiome at birth,
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我們就能在小牛誕生時就 馬上編輯體內的微生物群落,
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limiting that animal's impact on the climate for its entire lifetime.
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把牠帶給地球的衝擊 降到最小,一生有效。
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And this is beneficial for farmers
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這個方案對農夫也有好處,
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because reduced methane production
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因為甲烷產出的減少
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means more efficient conversion of feed into food.
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同時代表著能量轉換效率的上升。
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Importantly, these tools can be used in the future
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更重要的事,這些工具未來可以運用在
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to reduce methane emissions from other sources,
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各種需減少甲烷排放的地方,
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like landfills, wastewater and rice paddies.
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像是掩埋場、廢水,和稻田。
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Ultimately, microbiomes generate
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最後,微生物群落產出的甲烷量
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up to two-thirds of all of the methane emissions globally.
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接近全球甲烷總排放量的三分之二。
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So our technology could really move the needle
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所以,這個技術能為
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in our fight against climate change.
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阻止氣候變遷做出巨大貢獻。
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In human health,
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人體健康方面,
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asthma affects up to 300 million people around the world,
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氣喘在全球影響了接近三億人的生活,
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a number that grows by 50 percent each decade,
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而且患者數量還每年增加 50% 。
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and it disproportionately affects lower-income children.
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氣喘對低收入家庭的小孩影響特別大。
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Our team has identified a promising link
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我們的團隊找到了氣喘和
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between a molecule produced in the gut microbiome
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腸胃微生物群落所產生的一種分子
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and asthma development.
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兩者的可能關聯。
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With precision microbiome editing,
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有了精準編輯微生物群落的技術,
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we could offer a child at risk for asthma a noninvasive therapy
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我們就能提供可能罹患氣喘的小孩 治療氣喘的非侵入式療程,
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that would eliminate asthma-inducing molecules,
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這療程能殲滅誘發氣喘的分子,
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changing her life trajectory.
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扭轉孩子的人生。
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And what's really exciting
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更讓人振奮的是,
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is that these same approaches in the future could help us treat
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以後這套同樣的方法可以幫我們治療,
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or even prevent human diseases
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甚至預防人類身上
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that are linked to the gut microbiome,
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與腸胃微生物群落有關的疾病,
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including obesity, diabetes and Alzheimer's.
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包括肥胖和阿茲海默症。
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I think it’s fascinating that we can now use CRISPR
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能用 CRISPR 來編輯
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to edit the same tiny organisms that gave us CRISPR.
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激發我們開發出 CRISPR 的有機體, 我覺得相當不可思議。
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In doing so, we’re collaborating with the ultimate partner: nature.
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使用 CRISPR 是種和大自然的合作。
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Together, we can use CRISPR-powered precision microbiome editing
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以 CRISPR 為基礎開發的 微生物群落精準編輯技術,
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to build a more resilient future for all of us.
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能讓我們建構修復力更高的未來世界。
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Thank you very much.
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謝謝。
07:33
(Applause)
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