The real reason manufacturing jobs are disappearing | Augie Picado

155,722 views ・ 2017-09-28

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翻译人员: Hong Li 校对人员: Bangyou Xiang
00:12
When someone mentions Cuba,
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当有人提到古巴的时候,
00:14
what do you think about?
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你会想到什么?
00:17
Classic, classic cars?
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老爷车?
00:19
Perhaps good cigars?
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上等雪茄?
00:21
Maybe you think of a famous baseball player.
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或者某位著名的棒球运动员。
00:23
What about when somebody mentions North Korea?
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而提到北朝鲜呢?
00:25
You think about those missile tests,
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你会想到导弹试射,
00:28
maybe their notorious leader
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或者名声不怎么好的领导人
00:29
or his good friend, Dennis Rodman.
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或者他的好朋友,丹尼斯·罗德曼。
00:32
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:33
One thing that likely doesn't come to mind
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而提到这些国家时,
00:36
is a vision of a country,
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你绝不会想到的是,
00:38
an open economy,
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经济开放,
00:40
whose citizens have access to a wide range of affordable consumer products.
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民众能买得到众多消费品, 而且也负担得起。
00:47
I'm not here to argue how these countries got to where they are today.
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我今天不想讨论这些国家 是怎么走到今天这种境地的。
00:51
I simply want to use them as an example of countries and citizens
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我仅仅想把它们作为一种典型,
00:55
who have been affected, negatively affected,
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来说明国家和民众, 是如何被限制进口,
00:58
by a trade policy that restricts imports
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保护本地工业的贸易政策所影响,
01:01
and protects local industries.
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负面的影响。
01:04
Recently we've heard a number of countries
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最近我们听说有许多国家
01:07
talk about restricting imports
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在谈论限制进口,
01:09
and protecting their local, domestic industries.
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保护国内的工业。
01:12
Now, this may sound fine in a sound bite,
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如果作为新闻标题, 可能听起来还不错,
01:15
but what it really is is protectionism.
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但这实际上是一种贸易保护主义。
01:18
We heard a lot about this during the 2016 presidential election.
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我们在2016年总统大选期间 听到过很多这样的表述。
01:23
We heard about it during the Brexit debates
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在英国退出欧盟期间也听过不少,
01:25
and most recently during the French elections.
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还有最近的法国大选也是一样。
01:30
In fact, it's been a really important topic
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实际上,这个议题非常重要,
01:33
being talked about around the world,
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在世界各国都是如此,
01:35
and many aspiring political leaders
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许多有抱负的政治领袖
01:37
are running on platforms positioning protectionism as a good thing.
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都会把贸易保护主义视为一件好事, 并将其纳入自己的纲领中。
01:42
Now, I could see why they think protectionism is good,
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我现在有点明白为何他们 把贸易保护主义视为好事,
01:45
because sometimes it seems like trade is unfair.
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因为有时候贸易看起来是不平等的。
01:50
Some have blamed trade
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有人还会责怪贸易,
01:52
for some of the problems we've been having here at home in the US.
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认为贸易是美国国内 很多问题的源头。
01:56
For years we've been hearing
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有一件事情我们谈论了好几年,
01:57
about the loss of high-paying US manufacturing jobs.
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就是关于美国高薪制造业 工作岗位的流失。
02:01
Many think that manufacturing is declining in the US
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很多人认为美国制造业的衰退
02:04
because companies are moving their operations offshore
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是因为企业将业务转移到海外那些
02:08
to markets with lower-cost labor
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劳动力价格低廉的市场中去了,
02:10
like China, Mexico and Vietnam.
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比如中国,墨西哥和越南。
02:14
They also think trade agreements sometimes are unfair,
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他们还认为贸易协定 有时候是不公平的,
02:18
like NAFTA
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比如北美自由贸易协定(NAFTA),
02:19
and the Trans-Pacific Partnership,
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比如跨太平洋伙伴关系(TPP),
02:21
because these trade agreements allow companies
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因为这些贸易协定允许企业
02:25
to reimport those cheaply produced goods back into the US
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从那些获得了工作岗位的国家 重新进口廉价生产的货物
02:29
and other countries from where the jobs were taken.
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到那些岗位被抢走的美国和其它国家。
02:32
So it kind of feels like the exporters win
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感觉好像是出口国赚了,
02:35
and the importers lose.
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而进口国亏了。
02:38
Now, the reality is
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而目前的现状是,
02:40
output in the manufacturing sector in the US
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美国制造业的产量
02:43
is actually growing,
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实际上是在增长的,
02:45
but we are losing jobs.
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但是我们的工作岗位在流失。
02:47
We're losing lots of them.
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大量的流失。
02:49
In fact, from 2000 to 2010,
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从2000年到2010年,
02:51
5.7 million manufacturing jobs were lost.
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我们失去了570万个制造业岗位。
02:56
But they're not being lost for the reasons you might think.
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但流失的原因并不是 大家所想象的那样。
03:00
Mike Johnson in Toledo, Ohio
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俄亥俄州托莱多市的麦克·约翰逊,
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didn't lose his jobs at the factory
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他的工作并不是被墨西哥蒙特雷的
03:05
to Miguel Sanchez in Monterrey, Mexico.
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米格尔·桑切斯抢走的。
03:08
No.
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不是这样的。
03:09
Mike lost his job to a machine.
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麦克的工作是被机器抢走了。
03:13
87 percent of lost manufacturing jobs
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制造业岗位的流失中,
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have been eliminated because we've made improvements
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有87%是因为我们通过自动化改造
03:19
in our own productivity through automation.
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提高了生产率。
03:23
So that means that one out of 10 lost manufacturing jobs
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这就意味着,只有十分之一的 制造业岗位流失
03:28
was due to offshoring.
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跟生产转移到国外有关。
03:31
Now, this is not just a US phenomenon.
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这种现象不仅仅发生在美国。
03:33
No.
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不是的。
03:35
In fact, automation is spreading to every production line
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自动化正在蔓延到世界上每一个国家,
03:38
in every country around the world.
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每一条生产线上。
03:41
But look, I get it:
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但我承认,表面上看,
03:43
if you just lost your job
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如果你刚刚失业,
03:44
and then you read in the newspaper
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紧接着你在报纸上看到
03:46
that your old company just struck up a deal with China,
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你的老东家跟中国刚刚签了一笔订单,
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it's easy to think you were just replaced
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你就很容易联想到 自己在一对一交易中
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in a one-for-one deal.
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被替代掉了。
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When I hear stories like this, I think that what people picture
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每当我听到这样的故事,我就会想,
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is that trade happens between only two countries.
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人们往往认为贸易 只发生在两个国家之间。
04:00
Manufacturers in one country
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一个国家的生产商
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produce products and they export them
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生产产品,然后出口到
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to consumers in other countries,
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其他国家的消费者手中,
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and it feels like the manufacturing countries win
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看起来感觉生产国赚了,
04:11
and the importing countries lose.
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而进口国亏了。
04:15
Well, reality's a little bit different.
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实际情况其实有所不同。
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I'm a supply chain professional,
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我是一名供应链专家,
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and I live and work in Mexico.
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我在墨西哥生活和工作。
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And I work in the middle
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我的工作属于
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of a highly connected network of manufacturers
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一个紧密联系的制造商网络,
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all collaborating from around the world
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它们来自世界各地,互相协作,
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to produce many of the products we use today.
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共同生产许多我们日常所需的产品。
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What I see
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我在墨西哥城
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from my front-row seat in Mexico City
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获得的第一手见闻
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actually looks more like this.
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更符合下面这种情况。
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And this is a more accurate depiction of what trade really looks like.
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这是对于真实的贸易更为精确的描述。
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I've had the pleasure of being able to see
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我有幸能看到
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how many different products are manufactured,
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各种各样的产品是如何生产出来的,
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from golf clubs to laptop computers
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从高尔夫球杆到笔记本电脑,
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to internet servers, automobiles
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网络服务器,汽车,
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and even airplanes.
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甚至飞机。
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And believe me, none of it happens in a straight line.
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相信我,没有哪一种产品 来自刚刚那条两国之间的直线。
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Let me give you an example.
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我来举个例子。
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A few months ago, I was touring the manufacturing plant
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几个月前,我参观了位于 墨西哥克雷塔罗州的
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of a multinational aerospace company
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一家跨国航空公司的
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in Querétaro, Mexico,
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制造厂。
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and the VP of logistics points out a completed tail assembly.
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负责物流的副总裁 给我们看了一个组装完毕的机尾。
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It turns out the tail assemblies are assembled from panels
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这个组装完毕的机尾,所用的金属板
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that are manufactured in France,
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是在法国生产,
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and they're assembled in Mexico
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在墨西哥组装,
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using components imported from the US.
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使用的零件进口自美国。
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When those tail assemblies are done,
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当这些机尾组装完毕后,
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they're exported via truck to Canada
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会通过卡车运输出口到加拿大,
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to their primary assembly plant
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那里有他们的主装配工厂,
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where they come together
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成千上万的其他零件
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with thousands of other parts,
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在那里被组装到一起,
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like the wings and the seats
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像机翼,座位,
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and the little shades over the little windows,
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窗户上的遮光板,
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all coming in to become a part of a new airplane.
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都汇集于此,成为 一架新飞机的一部分。
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Think about it.
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想象一下,
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These new airplanes,
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这些新飞机,
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before they even take their first flight,
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在它们首飞之前,
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they have more stamps in their passports
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护照上盖的章
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than Angelina Jolie.
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已经比安吉丽娜·朱莉的还要多。
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Now, this approach to processing goes on all around the world
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这样的情况在世界各地越来越多,
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to manufacture many of the products
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生产我们日常所需的
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we use every day,
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许多产品,
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from skin cream to airplanes.
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从润肤霜到飞机。
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When you go home tonight, take a look in your house.
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今晚你们回家后,四处看看。
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You might be surprised to find a label that looks like this one:
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你可能会惊奇地找到 一个这样的标签:
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"Manufactured in the USA from US and foreign parts."
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“美国生产,零件来自 美国和其他国家。”
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Economist Michael Porter
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经济学家麦克·波特
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described what's going on here best.
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对此有着最为精辟的描述。
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Many decades ago, he said that it's most beneficial for a country
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在几十年前,他就指出, 对一个国家而言最有利的做法,
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to focus on producing the products it can produce most efficiently
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就是专注于生产 自己生产率最高的产品,
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and trading for the rest.
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然后通过贸易来获得其他产品。
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So what he's talking about here is shared production,
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他所说的就是协同生产,
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and efficiency is the name of the game.
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而效率是其中最关键的一点。
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You've probably seen an example of this
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大家很可能见过这样的例子,
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at home or at work.
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无论在家还是在工作中。
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Let's take a look at an example.
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让我们来看一个例子。
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Think about how your house was built
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想想你们家房子是怎么盖起来的
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or your kitchen renovated.
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或者厨房是怎么翻新的。
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Typically, there's a general contractor
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一般来说,会有一个总承包商
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who is responsible for coordinating the efforts
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他会负责协调
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of all the different contractors:
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不同承包商的工作:
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an architect to draw the plans,
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设计师绘制图纸,
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an earth-moving company to dig the foundation,
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基建公司挖好地基,
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a plumber, a carpenter and so on.
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还有水管工、木匠等等。
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So why doesn't the general contractor
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那为什么这个总承包商
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pick just one company
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不会只选择一家公司
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to do all the work,
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来完成所有的工作呢,
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like, say, the architect?
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比如说,只找设计师?
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Because this is silly.
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因为这么做很傻。
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The general contractor selects experts
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总承包商会选择专业人士,
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because it takes years
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因为学习和专精
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to learn and master
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盖房子和翻新厨房的
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how to do each of the tasks it takes to build a house or renovate a kitchen,
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某一个领域都需要花费数年的时间,
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some of them requiring special training.
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有些甚至需要专业的训练。
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Think about it:
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试想一下,
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Would you want your architect to install your toilet?
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你会愿意让设计师来帮你安装马桶吗?
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Of course not.
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当然不会。
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So let's apply this process to the corporate world.
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将这一过程引申到 企业的领域也是一样。
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Companies today focus on manufacturing
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当今企业都专注于生产
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what they produce best and most efficiently,
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他们质量最高、效率最高的产品,
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and they trade for everything else.
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然后通过贸易获得其他产品。
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So this means they rely
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这就意味着企业都高度依赖
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on a global, interconnected, interdependent network of manufacturers
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一个全球化的、紧密联系的、 相互依赖的制造商网络
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to produce these products.
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来生产产品。
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In fact, that network is so interconnected
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这个网络的联系是如此紧密,
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it's almost impossible
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几乎不太可能
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to dismantle and produce products in just one country.
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将其拆开,在一个国家 生产所有的产品。
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Let's take a look at the interconnected web
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我们来回顾一下刚刚看到的
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we saw a few moments ago,
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紧密联系的网络,
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and let's focus on just one strand
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我们只看其中一条线,
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between the US and Mexico.
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美国和墨西哥之间的那一条。
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The Wilson Institute says that shared production represents
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威尔逊学院的数据显示, 美国和墨西哥的
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40 percent of the half a trillion dollars in trade between the US and Mexico.
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贸易额为5000亿美元, 其中40%是协同生产。
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That's about 200 billion dollars,
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差不多是2000亿美元,
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or the same as the GDP for Portugal.
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相当于葡萄牙全国的GDP。
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So let's just imagine
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假设一下,
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that the US decides to impose
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如果美国决定
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a 20 percent border tax on all imports from Mexico.
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对所有进口自墨西哥的产品 征20%的国境税。
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OK, fine.
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没问题。
08:52
But do you think Mexico is just going to stand by and let that happen?
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但是你们觉得墨西哥会欣然接受吗?
08:57
No. No way.
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不可能的。
08:59
So in retaliation, they impose a similar tax
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作为回应,他们也会征收相似的税率,
09:02
on all goods being imported from the US,
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针对所有进口自美国的产品,
09:06
and a little game of tit-for-tat ensues,
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就这样你来我往,
09:10
and 20 percent -- just imagine that 20 percent duties
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想象一下这20%的税
09:13
are added to every good, product, product component
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被加到所有的货物,产品及其部件,
09:17
crossing back and forth across the border,
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只要过境就会被征收,
09:19
and you could be looking at more than a 40 percent increase in duties,
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这样一来税率的增加就会大于40%,
09:23
or 80 billion dollars.
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或者说800亿美元。
09:25
Now, don't kid yourself,
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不要天真了,
09:27
these costs are going to be passed along
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这些费用的增加一定会被摊到
09:29
to you and to me.
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你我身上。
09:33
Now, let's think about what impact that might have on some of the products,
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我们来看一下这会对商品 产生什么样的影响,
09:39
or the prices of the products, that we buy every day.
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或者说对我们日常用品的价格 会产生什么影响。
09:42
So if a 30 percent increase in duties were actually passed along,
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如果税率增加30%,
09:46
we would be looking at some pretty important increases in prices.
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我们会看到明显的价格上涨。
09:51
A Lincoln MKZ would go from 37,000 dollars to 48,000.
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一辆林肯MKZ会从 37000美元上涨到48000美元。
09:56
And the price of a Sharp 60-inch HDTV
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一台60寸的夏普高清电视的价格
10:00
would go from 898 dollars to 1,167 dollars.
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会从898美元上涨到1167美元。
10:05
And the price of a 16-ounce jar of CVS skin moisturizer
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一罐454克的CVS润肤霜价格
10:10
would go from 13 dollars to 17 dollars.
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会从13美元上涨到17美元。
10:14
Now, remember, this is only looking at one strand of the production chain
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提醒一下,这还仅仅只是 美国和墨西哥之间,
10:19
between the US and Mexico,
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只是产品网络中的一条线,
10:20
so multiply this out across all of the strands.
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如果把所有的线都叠加起来。
10:24
The impact could be considerable.
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产生的影响就会相当大了。
10:26
Now, just think about this:
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试想一下,
10:28
even if we were able to dismantle this network
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即使我们能够将整个网络分解,
10:33
and produce products in just one country,
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在一个国家生产所有的产品,
10:36
which by the way is easier said than done,
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当然,这操作起来很难,
10:39
we would still only be saving or protecting
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我们也仅仅能够保住
10:42
one out of 10 lost manufacturing jobs.
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10个制造业岗位中的1个。
10:45
That's right, because remember,
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没错,因为请记住,
10:49
most of those jobs, 87 percent,
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大部分的工作岗位,高达87%,
10:51
were lost due to improvements in our own productivity.
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是因为我们生产率的提高而流失。
10:55
And unfortunately, those jobs, they're gone for good.
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而且遗憾的是, 这些工作岗位再也找不回来了。
10:59
So the real question is,
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现在问题来了,
11:02
does it make sense for us to drive up prices
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我们让价格上涨,
11:04
to the point where many of us can't afford the basic goods we use every day
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直到大部分人都买不起基本生活用品, 而目的仅仅为了保住一个工作岗位,
11:11
for the purpose of saving a job
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而这个工作岗位在几年后
11:13
that might be eliminated in a couple of years anyway?
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又肯定会失去, 那么这件事到底有没有意义?
11:17
The reality is that shared production
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现实就是,协同生产
11:19
allows us to manufacture higher quality products
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可以让我们以很低的成本
11:23
at lower costs.
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生产高质量的产品。
11:24
It's that simple.
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就这么简单。
11:26
It allows us to get more
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这样可以让我们
11:28
out of the limited resources and expertise we have
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充分利用有限的资源和专业技能
11:31
and at the same time benefit from lower prices.
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同时通过较低的价格获利。
11:35
It's really important to remember
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对于协同生产而言,
11:37
that for shared production to be effective,
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很重要的一点就是,
11:40
it relies on efficient cross-border movement of raw materials,
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它依赖于对原料、零件和制成品
11:45
components and finished products.
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高效的跨境运输。
11:48
So remember this:
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请大家记住,
11:50
the next time you're hearing somebody try to sell you on the idea
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下次你们要是再遇到有人宣扬
11:55
that protectionism is a good deal,
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贸易保护主义是一件好事,
11:58
it's just not.
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千万别再被忽悠了。
11:59
Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
12:01
(Applause)
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