John Maeda: Designing for simplicity

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Hugh Hyung-uk Choi ๊ฒ€ํ† : Yenah Lee
00:25
On simplicity. What a great way to start.
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๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๊นŒ.
00:30
First of all, I've been watching this trend
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๋จผ์ € ์ „ "์™„์ „ ์ดˆ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด์—‡"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…๋“ค์—์„œ์˜ ํŠธ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ง€์ผœ ๋ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
where we have these books like such and such "For Dummies."
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๋จผ์ € ์ „ "์™„์ „ ์ดˆ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด์—‡"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…๋“ค์—์„œ์˜ ํŠธ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ง€์ผœ ๋ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:35
Do you know these books, these such and such "For Dummies?"
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ "๋”๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฌด์—‡"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…๋“ค์„ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
00:37
My daughters pointed out that I'm very similar looking, so this is a bit of a problem.
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์ œ ๋”ธ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฒผ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ง€์ ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:41
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:44
But I was looking online at Amazon.com for other books like this.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋งˆ์กด ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฑ…๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:48
You know, there's also something called the "Complete Idiot's Guide?"
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์™„์ „์ดˆ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์™„๋ฒฝ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ž€ ์ฑ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:51
There's a sort of business model around being stupid in some sense.
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์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„  ์–ด๋ฆฌ์ˆ™ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋น„์ง€๋‹ˆ์Šค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด๋ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:54
We like to have technology make us feel bad, for some strange reason.
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์–ด๋–ค ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ด์œ ์—์„œ์ธ์ง€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:57
But I really like that, so I wrote a book called "The Laws of Simplicity."
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
I was in Milan last week, for the Italian launch.
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์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์—” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์–ดํŒ ์ถœ๊ฐ„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฐ€๋ผ๋…ธ์— ๊ฐ”์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:04
It's kind of a book about questions, questions about simplicity.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
Very few answers. I'm also wondering myself, what is simplicity?
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๋งค์šฐ ์ ์€ ๋‹ต๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜์š”. ์ € ์ž์‹  ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜์•„ํ•ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:11
Is it good? Is it bad? Is complexity better? I'm not sure.
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋‚˜์œ๊ฑธ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:15
After I wrote "The Laws of Simplicity,"
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์ œ๊ฐ€ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™"์„ ์ €์ˆ ํ•œ ์ดํ›„์—
01:17
I was very tired of simplicity, as you can imagine.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜์„œ ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋“ฏ ์ „ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์— ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ซ์ฆ์ด ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:20
And so in my life, I've discovered that
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ ์‚ถ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋„ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๊ณผ์—…์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํœด๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์Šคํ‚ฌ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:22
vacation is the most important skill for any kind of over-achiever.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ ์‚ถ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋„ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๊ณผ์—…์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํœด๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์Šคํ‚ฌ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:25
Because your companies will always take away your life,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ํฌ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํœด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋นผ์•—์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:28
but they can never take away your vacation -- in theory.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ํฌ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ก ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํœด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋นผ์•—์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:31
(Laughter)
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01:32
So, I went to the Cape last summer to hide from simplicity,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ง€๋‚œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์— ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ํ”ผํ•ด์„œ Cape Cod์— ๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์ • ๋ฐ”์ง€๋ฐ–์— ์—†์–ด Gap์„ ๋“ค๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:35
and I went to the Gap, because I only have black pants.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ง€๋‚œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์— ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ํ”ผํ•ด์„œ Cape Cod์— ๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ฒ€์ • ๋ฐ”์ง€๋ฐ–์— ์—†์–ด Gap์„ ๋“ค๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:37
So I went and bought khaki shorts or whatever,
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์นดํ‚ค์ƒ‰ ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ”์ง€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ”์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์šด์ด ์—†๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ์˜จํ†ต "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ผ"์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:39
and unfortunately, their branding was all about "Keep It Simple."
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์นดํ‚ค์ƒ‰ ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ”์ง€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ”์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์šด์ด ์—†๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ์˜จํ†ต "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ผ"์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:43
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:45
I opened up a magazine, and Visa's branding was,
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์žก์ง€์ฑ…์„ ํŽผ์ณ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋น„์ž์˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋Š”
01:47
"Business Takes Simplicity."
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"๋น„์ง€๋‹ˆ์Šค๋Š” ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•œ๋‹ค"์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:49
I develop photographs, and Kodak said, "Keep It Simple."
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์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ธํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š”๋ฐ ์ฝ”๋‹ฅ์—๋„ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ผ"๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์“ฐ์—ฌ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
01:52
So, I felt kind of weird that simplicity was sort of following me around.
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์ „ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ์กธ์กธ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๋“ฏํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ดํ•จ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
01:55
So, I turned on the TV, and I don't watch TV very much,
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ TV๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ์ง„ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ TV๋ฅผ ์ผฐ๋Š”๋ฐ
01:58
but you know this person? This is Paris Hilton, apparently.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ? ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํŒจ๋ฆฌ์ŠคํžํŠผ์ด ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:02
And she has this show, "The Simple Life."
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ์ œ๋ชฉ์€ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ธ์ƒ"์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
02:04
So I watched this. It's not very simple, a little bit confusing.
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๋ณ„๋กœ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๋‹ค์†Œ ํ˜ผ๋™์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:08
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:10
So, I looked for a different show to watch.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๋ณผ ๋งŒํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:12
So, I opened up this TV Guide thing,
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TV๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํŽผ์ณ ๋ณด์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ E!์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ด "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ธ์ƒ"์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ธ๊ธฐ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:14
and on the E! channel, this "Simple Life" show is very popular.
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TV๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํŽผ์ณ ๋ณด์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ E!์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ์ด "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ธ์ƒ"์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ธ๊ธฐ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:17
They'll play it over, and over, and over.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๊ฑธ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์„œ ์ƒ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋˜ ์ƒ์˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
(Laughter)
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02:20
So it was traumatizing, actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ •์‹ ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๊ณ 
02:22
So, I wanted to escape again, so I went out to my car.
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์ „ ๋˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ”ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์ ธ์„œ ์ฐจ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:27
And Cape Cod, there are idyllic roads, and all of us can drive in this room.
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Cape Cod์—๋Š” ์ „์›์ ์ธ ๋„๋กœ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋“  ์ด ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šด์ „ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ‘œ์‹œํŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
And when you drive, these signs are very important.
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Cape Cod์—๋Š” ์ „์›์ ์ธ ๋„๋กœ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋“  ์ด ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šด์ „ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ‘œ์‹œํŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:34
It's a very simple sign, it says, "road" and "road approaching."
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๋งค์šฐ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ํ‘œ์ง€ํŒ์ธ๋ฐ ๊ธธ์— ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๋Š” ๊ธธ์ด ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:38
So I'm mostly driving along, okay, and then I saw this sign.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์šด์ „ํ•  ๋•Œ ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ‘œ์ง€ํŒ์„ ๋ณธ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:42
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:44
So, I thought complexity was attacking me suddenly,
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณต์žกํ•จ์ด ์—„์Šตํ•ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค"๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:46
so I thought, "Ah, simplicity. Very important."
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณต์žกํ•จ์ด ์—„์Šตํ•ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค"๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:49
But then I thought, "Oh, simplicity. What would that be like on a beach?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์ด๋ž€ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ, ํ•ด๋ณ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ํ•˜๋Š˜์˜ 41%๊ฐ€ ํšŒ์ƒ‰๋น›์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํ•˜๋Š˜์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ"์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:53
What if the sky was 41 percent gray? Wouldn't that be the perfect sky?"
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์ด๋ž€ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ, ํ•ด๋ณ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ํ•˜๋Š˜์˜ 41%๊ฐ€ ํšŒ์ƒ‰๋น›์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํ•˜๋Š˜์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ"์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:57
I mean that simplicity sky.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ํ•˜๋Š˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:59
But in reality, the sky looked like this. It was a beautiful, complex sky.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š˜์€ ์ด๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ณ  ๋ณต์žก ๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:04
You know, with the pinks and blues. We can't help but love complexity.
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๋ถ„ํ™๋น›๊ณผ ํŒŒ๋ž€ ๋น›์ด ์–ด์šธ์–ด์ง„ ๋ณต์žกํ•จ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:07
We're human beings: we love complex things.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ธ๊ฐ„๋“ค์€ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
We love relationships -- very complex. So we love this kind of stuff.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๋ณต์žกํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค..
03:12
I'm at this place called the Media Lab.
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์ „ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋žฉ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:14
Maybe some of you guys have heard of this place.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ด ๊ณณ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด ๋ณด์•˜์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:16
It's designed by I. M. Pei, one of the premier modernist architects.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ I. M. Pei๋ผ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ชจ๋”๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜ ๊ฑด์ถ•๊ฐ€์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋””์ž์ธ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
Modernism means white box, and it's a perfect white box.
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๋ชจ๋”๋‹ˆ์ฆ˜์ด๋ž€ ํฐ์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ํฐ์ƒ์ž ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:26
And some of you guys are entrepreneurs, etc., whatever.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ญ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์‹คํ…๋ฐ ์ง€๋‚œ๋‹ฌ์—๋Š” ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์— ๊ฐ”์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์นดํŽ˜ํ…Œ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง.....
03:29
Last month, I was at Google, and, boy, that cafeteria, man.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ญ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์‹คํ…๋ฐ ์ง€๋‚œ๋‹ฌ์—๋Š” ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์— ๊ฐ”์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์นดํŽ˜ํ…Œ๋ฆฌ์•„๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง.....
03:34
You guys have things here in Silicon Valley like stock options.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜๋ฐธ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์Šคํ†ก์˜ต์…˜๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ณด์„ธ์š” ํ•™๊ณ„์—์„  ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์งํ•จ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:37
See, in academia, we get titles, lots of titles.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜๋ฐธ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์Šคํ†ก์˜ต์…˜๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ณด์„ธ์š” ํ•™๊ณ„์—์„  ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์งํ•จ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:41
Last year at TED, these were all my titles. I had a lot of titles.
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์ž‘๋…„์— TED์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ „๋ถ€ ์ €์˜ ์งํ•จ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์งํ•จ์ด ์ข€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:44
I have a default title as a father of a bunch of daughters.
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ๋‹จ ๋งŽ์€ ๋”ธ๋“ค์˜ ์•„๋น ๋ผ๋Š” ํƒ€์ดํ‹€์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
This year at TED, I'm happy to report that I have new titles,
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์˜ฌํ•ด TED์—์„  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „์˜ ์งํ•จ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋”๋ถˆ์–ด ์ƒˆ ์งํ•จ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊ณตํ‘œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
in addition to my previous titles.
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์˜ฌํ•ด TED์—์„  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ „์˜ ์งํ•จ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋”๋ถˆ์–ด ์ƒˆ ์งํ•จ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊ณตํ‘œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:52
Another "Associate Director of Research."
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๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ๋ถ€๋””๋ ‰ํ„ฐ ์งํ•จ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋˜ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒจ์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋”ธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:54
And this also happened, so I have five daughters now.
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๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ๋ถ€๋””๋ ‰ํ„ฐ ์งํ•จ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋˜ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒจ์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋”ธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:59
That's my baby Reina. (Applause) Thank you.
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์ œ ์•„๊ธฐ ๋ ˆ์ด๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:01
And so, my life is much more complex because of the baby, actually,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์•„๊ธฐ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ๋ง์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ํ•œ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
04:04
but that's okay. We will still stay married, I think.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์•„๊ธฐ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ๋ง์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ํ•œ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
04:08
But looking way back, when I was a child --
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ๋˜ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋–  ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋ณด๋ฉด ์ „ ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์˜ ๋‘๋ถ€ ๊ณต์žฅ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:10
you see, I grew up in a tofu factory in Seattle.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ๋˜ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋–  ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋ณด๋ฉด ์ „ ์‹œ์• ํ‹€์˜ ๋‘๋ถ€ ๊ณต์žฅ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:12
Many of you may not like tofu because you haven't had good tofu,
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๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ๋™์•ˆ ์ข‹์€ ๋‘๋ถ€๋ง›์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‘๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‘๋ถ€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Œ์‹์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:15
but tofu's a good food. It's a very simple kind of food.
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๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ๋™์•ˆ ์ข‹์€ ๋‘๋ถ€๋ง›์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‘๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‘๋ถ€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์Œ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Œ์‹์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:17
It's very hard work to make tofu.
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๋‘๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํž˜์ด ๋“œ๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:20
As a child, we used to wake up at 1 a.m. and work till 6 p.m., six days a week.
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์–ด๋ฆด๋•Œ ๋ณดํ†ต ์ƒˆ๋ฒฝ 1์‹œ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜ ์ €๋… 6์‹œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋งค์ฃผ 6์ผ์„ ์ผํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
My father was kind of like Andy Grove, paranoid of the competition.
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์ œ ๋ถ€์นœ์€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์˜ ํŽธ์ง‘๊ด‘์ธ ์•ค๋””๊ทธ๋กœ๋ธŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ข…์ข… ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์…จ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋…ธ๋™๋ ฅ์— ๋น„๋ก€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:30
So often, seven days a week. Family business equals child labor.
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์ œ ๋ถ€์นœ์€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์˜ ํŽธ์ง‘๊ด‘์ธ ์•ค๋””๊ทธ๋กœ๋ธŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ข…์ข… ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์…จ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋…ธ๋™๋ ฅ์— ๋น„๋ก€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:35
We were a great model. So, I loved going to school.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๋Š”๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:39
School was great, and maybe going to school
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ํ•™๊ต๋Š” ๊ทผ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฐฉ์‹คํžˆ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ™•์‹คํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
04:41
helped me get to this Media Lab place, I'm not sure.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋žฉ์— ๋“ค์–ด ์˜ค๋Š”๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
04:45
Thank you.
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๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:47
But the Media Lab is an interesting place, and it's important to me
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๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋žฉ์€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๊ณผํ•™ ํ•™๋ถ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ดํ›„ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋””์ž์ธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:51
because as a student, I was a computer science undergrad,
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๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋žฉ์€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๊ณผํ•™ ํ•™๋ถ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ดํ›„ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋””์ž์ธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:53
and I discovered design later on in my life.
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๋ฏธ๋””์–ด๋žฉ์€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๊ณผํ•™ ํ•™๋ถ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์ดํ›„ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋””์ž์ธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:56
And there was this person, Muriel Cooper.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์—” ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์—˜์ฟ ํผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:58
Who knows Muriel Cooper? Muriel Cooper?
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์—˜ ์ฟ ํผ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์—˜์ฟ ํผ์š”.
05:00
Wasn't she amazing? Muriel Cooper. She was wacky.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์—˜์ฟ ํผ๋Š” ์—‰๋šฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
And she was a TEDster, exactly, and she showed us,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ TED์Šคํ„ฐ์˜€๊ณ  ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:07
she showed the world how to make the computer beautiful again.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ TED์Šคํ„ฐ์˜€๊ณ  ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:10
And she's very important in my life,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์กด์žฌ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ MIT๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜ ์•„ํŠธ์Šค์ฟจ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์กฐ์–ธํ•ด ์ค€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
because she's the one that told me to leave MIT and go to art school.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์กด์žฌ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ MIT๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜ ์•„ํŠธ์Šค์ฟจ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์กฐ์–ธํ•ด ์ค€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:15
It was the best advice I ever got. So I went to art school, because of her.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›์€ ์กฐ์–ธ ์ค‘ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ „ ๊ทธ๋…€ ๋•์— ์•„ํŠธ์Šค์ฟจ๋กœ ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:19
She passed away in 1994,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” 1994๋…„์— ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋– ๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ MIT๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™”์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
and I was hired back to MIT to try to fill her shoes, but it's so hard.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” 1994๋…„์— ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋– ๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ MIT๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™”์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
This amazing person, Muriel Cooper.
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์ด ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์—˜ ์ฟ ํผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:28
When I was in Japan -- I went to an art school in Japan --
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ณธ์—์„œ ์•„ํŠธ์Šค์ฟจ์„ ๋‹ค๋‹ ๋•Œ๋Š”
05:31
I had a nice sort of situation, because somehow I was connected to Paul Rand.
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ํด ๋žœ๋“œ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ด€๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ๊ฝค ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
Some of you guys know Paul Rand,
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ํด๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:38
the greatest graphic designer -- I'm sorry -- out there.
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ํด๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ๊ณ„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:40
The great graphic designer Paul Rand
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์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ ํด๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” IBM์˜ ๋กœ๊ณ ์™€ ์›จ์ŠคํŒ…ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์˜ ๋กœ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋””์ž์ธ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
designed the IBM logo, the Westinghouse logo.
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์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ ํด๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” IBM์˜ ๋กœ๊ณ ์™€ ์›จ์ŠคํŒ…ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์˜ ๋กœ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋””์ž์ธ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:44
He basically said, "I've designed everything."
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ณดํ†ต์€ "๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ๋””์ž์ธํ–ˆ๋‹ค"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
05:47
And also Ikko Tanaka was a very important mentor in my life --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ํด๋žœ๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์ฝ” ํƒ€๋‚˜์นด ์—ญ์‹œ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ
05:51
the Paul Rand of Japan. He designed most of the major icons of Japan,
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๊ทธ๋Š” Issey Miyake๋‚˜ Muji ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ์ƒ์ง•๋“ค์„ ๋””์ž์ธ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:56
like Issey Miyake's brand and also Muji.
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๊ทธ๋Š” Issey Miyake๋‚˜ Muji ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ์ƒ์ง•๋“ค์„ ๋””์ž์ธ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:59
When you have mentors -- and yesterday,
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์–ด์ œ ์นด๋ฆผ์••๋‘˜-์ž๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
06:01
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar talked about mentors,
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์–ด์ œ ์นด๋ฆผ์••๋‘˜-์ž๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
06:03
these people in your life -- the problem with mentors is that they all die.
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์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฃฝ๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
This is a sad thing, but it's actually a happy thing in a way,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋ก  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:09
because you can remember them in their pure form.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋ก  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:12
I think that the mentors that we all meet sort of humanize us.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ธ๊ฐ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:16
When you get older, and you're all freaked out, whatever,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ  ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง„์ •ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:18
the mentors calm us down.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ  ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง„์ •ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:20
And I'm grateful for my mentors, and I'm sure all of you are too.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ €์˜ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค ๋˜ํ•œ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ผ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:25
Because the human thing is very hard when you're at MIT.
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MIT์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
06:27
The T doesn't stand for "human," it stands for "technology."
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T๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„์„ ๋œปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ธฐ์ˆ (Technology)๋ฅผ ๋œปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:30
And because of that, I always wondered about this human thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ „ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ธ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜๋ฌธ์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:33
So, I've always been Googling this word, "human,"
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„(human)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์—์„œ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฉด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์–ป๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:35
to find out how many hits I get.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„(human)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์—์„œ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฉด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์–ป๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:37
And in 2001, I had 26 million hits, and for "computer,"
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2001๋…„์—” 2600๋งŒ ๊ฑด์ด ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ธ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๊ฐœ๋…์ธ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์›Œ๋“œ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
06:41
because computers are against humans a bit,
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2001๋…„์—” 2600๋งŒ ๊ฑด์ด ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ธ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๊ฐœ๋…์ธ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์›Œ๋“œ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
06:43
I have 42 million hits. Let me do an Al Gore here.
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4200๋งŒ ๊ฑด์ด ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•จ๊ณ ์–ด ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด ๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”
06:46
So, if you sort of compare that, like this,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋น„๊ต๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋Œ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ
06:48
you'll see that computer versus human --
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋น„๊ต๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋Œ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ
06:51
I've been tracking this for the last year --
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์ง€๋‚œํ•ด๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ณ„์† ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด ์˜จ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋Œ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:53
computer versus human over the last year has changed.
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์ง€๋‚œํ•ด๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ณ„์† ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด ์˜จ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๋Œ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:56
It used to be kind of two to one. Now, humans are catching up.
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๋ณดํ†ต์€ 2:1์ •๋„์˜ ๋น„์œจ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:59
Very good, us humans! We're catching up with the computers.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ธ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:02
In the simplicity realm, it's also interesting.
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๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ณต์žกํ•จ๊ณผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ๋น„๊ตํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์–‘์ƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:04
So if you compare complexities to simplicity,
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๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ณต์žกํ•จ๊ณผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ๋น„๊ตํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์–‘์ƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:08
it's also catching up in a way, too.
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๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ณต์žกํ•จ๊ณผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์„ ๋น„๊ตํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์–‘์ƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:10
So, somehow humans and simplicity are intertwined, I think.
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์–ด์จŒ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์€ ๋ณต์žกํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์–ฝํ˜€์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:16
I have a confession: I'm not a man of simplicity.
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๊ณ ๋ฐฑํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ „ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
I spent my entire early career making complex stuff.
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์ œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์€ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:22
Lots of complex stuff.
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๋งค๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
07:24
I wrote computer programs to make complex graphics like this.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์Šค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ฝ”๋“œ๋ฅผ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋ฐ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:28
I had clients in Japan to make really complex stuff like this.
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์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:31
And I've always felt bad about it, in a sense.
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์ „ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:34
So, I hid in a time dimension.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์†์œผ๋กœ ์ˆจ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:36
I built things in a time-graphics dimension.
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์ „ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๊ณต๊ฐ„์†์— ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:39
I did this series of calendars for Shiseido.
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์‹œ์‰์ด๋„์˜ ๋‹ฌ๋ ฅ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:42
This is a floral theme calendar in 1997,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด 1997๋…„์˜ ๊ฝƒ์„ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ํ•œ ํ…Œ๋งˆ์ด๊ณ 
07:45
and this is a firework calendar. So, you launch the number into space,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถˆ๊ฝƒ๋†€์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋นˆ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์ˆซ์ž๋ฅผ ์˜์•„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:50
because the Japanese believe that when you see fireworks,
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์ผ๋ณธ์ธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถˆ๊ฝƒ๋†€์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š”๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ์—์„œ ์ธ์ง€ ์ข€ ๋” ๊ทผ์‚ฌํ•ด ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:53
you're cooler for some reason.
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์ผ๋ณธ์ธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถˆ๊ฝƒ๋†€์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š”๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ์—์„œ ์ธ์ง€ ์ข€ ๋” ๊ทผ์‚ฌํ•ด ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:55
This is why they have fireworks in the summer.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ถˆ๊ฝƒ๋†€์ด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .
07:57
A very extreme culture.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋„ ๊ทน๋ช…ํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:00
Lastly, this is a fall-based calendar,
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์˜ ์ง‘ ๋งˆ๋‹น์— ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์„์„ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ํ•ด ๋ณธ ๋‹ฌ๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:02
because I have so many leaves in my yard.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์˜ ์ง‘ ๋งˆ๋‹น์— ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์„์„ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ํ•ด ๋ณธ ๋‹ฌ๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:04
So this is the leaves in my yard, essentially.
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์ด ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ๋“ค์ด ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ ๋งˆ๋‹น์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:06
And so I made a lot of these types of things.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ๋“œ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
I've been lucky to have been there before people made these kind of things,
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์ „ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ์— ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•˜๊ณ 
08:13
and so I made all this kind of stuff that messes with your eyes.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€์ €๋ถ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋กœ ๋ณด์ผ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:16
I feel kind of bad about that.
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๊ทธ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„  ๋‹ค์†Œ ์•„์‰ฌ์šด ๋งˆ์Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
Tomorrow, Paola Antonelli is speaking. I love Paola.
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๋‚ด์ผ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํŒŒ์˜ฌ๋ผ ์•ˆํ† ๋„ฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:21
She has this show right now at MoMA,
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์ด๋ฏธ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ „์‹œ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ MoMA์—์„œ, ๋ฒฝ๋“ค์— ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ „์‹œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:23
where some of these early works are here on display at MoMA, on the walls.
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์ด๋ฏธ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ „์‹œ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ MoMA์—์„œ, ๋ฒฝ๋“ค์— ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ „์‹œ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:27
If you're in New York, please go and see that.
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋‰ด์š•์— ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:29
But I've had a problem, because I make all this flying stuff
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚ ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์ž‘ํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
and people say, "Oh, I know your work.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ "์˜ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ์ข€ ์•Œ์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆˆ๊ธธ์„ ๋„๋Š” ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์ž–์•„์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง๋“ค์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
You're the guy that makes eye candy."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ "์˜ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ์ข€ ์•Œ์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆˆ๊ธธ์„ ๋„๋Š” ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์ž–์•„์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง๋“ค์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:38
And when you're told this, you feel kind of weird.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์™ ์ง€ ๊ธฐ์ดํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚„ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
"Eye candy" -- sort of pejorative, don't you think?
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"์‹œ๊ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆˆ๊ธธ์„ ๋„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ(Eye Candy)" ๋‹ค์†Œ ๊ฒฝ๋ฉธ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
08:43
So, I say, "No, I make eye meat," instead.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๋Œ€์‹  "์•„๋‹ˆ์š” ์ „ Eye meat์„ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
(Laughter)
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08:46
And eye meat is something different, something more fibrous,
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Eye meat์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ณ  ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋” ์„ฌ์œ ์งˆ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
08:49
something more powerful, perhaps. But what could that be, eye meat?
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํž˜์ด ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด Eye meat์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
08:53
I've been interested in computer programs all my life, actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ „ ์ œ ์ผ์ƒ๋™์•ˆ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ๋“ค์— ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:57
Computer programs are essentially trees,
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ๋“ค์€ ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋“ค์ด๊ณ 
08:59
and when you make art with a computer program, there's kind of a problem.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:02
Whenever you make art with a computer program,
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋•Œ ๋งˆ๋‹ค
09:04
you're always on the tree, and the paradox is that
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์œ„์— ์žˆ๊ฒŒ๋˜๊ณ  ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์—ญ์„ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฌด์—์„œ ๋‚ด๋ ค์˜ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
09:07
for excellent art, you want to be off the tree.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์œ„์— ์žˆ๊ฒŒ๋˜๊ณ  ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์—ญ์„ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฌด์—์„œ ๋‚ด๋ ค์˜ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
09:11
So, this is sort of a complication I've found.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ณต์žก์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
So, to get off the tree, I began to use my old computers.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜๋ฌด์—์„œ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ ์ „ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธธ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
09:18
I took these to Tokyo in 2001 to make computer objects.
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2001๋…„ ๋ด์ฟ„์—์„œ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ์˜ค๋ธŒ์ ํŠธ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐ”์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:22
This is a new way to type, on my old, color Classic.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ƒ‰์˜ ๊ณ ์ „์— ์žˆ์–ด ํƒ€์ดํ•‘์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:26
You can't type very much on this.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํƒ€์ดํ•‘์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:29
I also discovered that an IR mouse responds to CRT emissions
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์ „ ์ ์™ธ์„  ๋งˆ์šฐ์Šค์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์šด๊ด€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
09:33
and starts to move by itself, so this is a self-drawing machine.
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์›€์ง์ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:39
And also, one year, the G3 Bondi Blue thing --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œํ•ด๋Š” ๋งฅ G3 bondi ํ‘ธ๋ฅธ์ƒ‰์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
09:42
that caddy would come out, like, dangerous, like, "whack," like that.
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์บ๋””๊ฐ€ ํŠ€์–ด๋‚˜์™€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฝํ•˜๊ณ  ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:45
But I thought, "This is very interesting. What if I make like a car crash test?"
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ "์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋‹ค, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ž๋™์ฐจ ์ถฉ๋Œ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œํ—˜์—์„  ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ?"ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
09:48
So I have a crash test.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถฉ๋Œํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:50
(Laughter)
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09:51
And sort of measure the impact. Stuff like this are things I made,
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์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ์ธก์ •ํ•  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๋“ ๊ฐ€. ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:53
just to sort of understand what these things are.
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์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ์ธก์ •ํ•  ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๋“ ๊ฐ€. ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
(Laughter)
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09:58
Shortly after this, 9/11 happened, and I was very depressed.
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์–ผ๋งˆ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„ 9/11 ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ „ ๋งค์šฐ ์˜๊ธฐ์†Œ์นจํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:01
I was concerned with contemporary art
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์ „ ํ˜„๋Œ€์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด ๊ฑฑ์ •์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:03
that was all about piss, and sort of really sad things,
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์ „๋ถ€ ๋‹ค ํ˜•ํŽธ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ์ •๋ง ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์ผ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
10:05
and so I wanted to think about something happy.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธธ ์›ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
So I focused on food as my area --
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ๋ถ„์•ผ๋กœ ํด๋ž˜๋งจํƒ€์ธ์˜ ๊ป์งˆ๊ฐ™์€ ์Œ์‹์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:09
these sort of clementine peel things.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ๋ถ„์•ผ๋กœ ํด๋ž˜๋งจํƒ€์ธ์˜ ๊ป์งˆ๊ฐ™์€ ์Œ์‹์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ”์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
In Japan, it's a wonderful thing to remove the clementine peel
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์ผ๋ณธ์—์„  ํด๋ž˜๋งจํƒ€์ธ์˜ ๊ป์งˆ์„ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์— ์กฐ๊ฐ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๊นŒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:14
just in one piece. Who's done that before? One-piece clementine?
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์ „์— ํ•ด ๋ณธ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ํ•œ ๊ฐœ ํ†ต์งธ๋กœ ํด๋ž˜๋งจํƒ€์ธ ๊นŒ๋Š”๊ฑธ?
10:17
Oh, you guys are missing out, if you haven't done it yet.
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์˜ค ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์•„์ง ํ•ด ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชป ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:19
It was very good, and I discovered I can make sculptures out of this,
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์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์กฐ๊ฐํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:21
actually, in different forms.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์กฐ๊ฐํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
If you dry them quick, you can make, like, elephants and steers and stuff,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋ง๋ ค ๊ผฌ๋ผ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์ˆซ์†Œ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:26
and my wife didn't like these, because they mold, so I had to stop that.
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์ œ ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ณธ๋œฌ ๋ชจํ˜•์ด๋ผ ์‹ซ์–ดํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ „ ๊ทธ๋งŒ๋‘ฌ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:29
So, I went back to the computer, and I bought five large fries,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ๋‹ค์„ฏ๊ฐœ์˜ ํฐ ๊ฐ์žํŠ€๊น€์„ ์ƒ€๊ณ 
10:33
and scanned them all. And I was looking for some kind of food theme,
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์ „๋ถ€ ์Šค์บ”์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Œ์‹ํ…Œ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
10:38
and I wrote some software to automatically lay out french-fry images.
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์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์žํŠ€๊น€ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋“ค์„ ๋ ˆ์ด์•„์›ƒํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ž‘์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
And as a child, I'd hear that song, you know,
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์–ด๋ฆด๋•Œ๋Š” "์˜ค ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋“œ๋„“์€ ํ•˜๋Š˜๊ณผ ๊ณก์‹๋“ค์ด ๋…ธ๋ž—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ๊ฒฐ์น˜๋Š”" ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:45
"Oh, beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain,"
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์–ด๋ฆด๋•Œ๋Š” "์˜ค ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋“œ๋„“์€ ํ•˜๋Š˜๊ณผ ๊ณก์‹๋“ค์ด ๋…ธ๋ž—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ๊ฒฐ์น˜๋Š”" ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:49
so I made this amber waves image.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋…ธ๋ž€ ๋ฌผ๊ฒฐ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:51
It's sort of a Midwest cornfield out of french fries.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ์žํŠ€๊น€์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ค‘์„œ๋ถ€ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ์˜ฅ์ˆ˜์ˆ˜ ๋ฐญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:54
And also, as a child, I was the fattest kid in class,
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๋˜ ์–ด๋ฆด ์ ์—, ๋ฐ˜์—์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋šฑ๋šฑํ•œ ์•„์ด์˜€์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:58
so I used to love Cheetos. Oh, I love Cheetos, yummy.
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์น˜ํ† ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฌด์ฒ™์ด๋‚˜ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค ์ •๋ง ์น˜ํ† ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง›์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”
11:01
So, I wanted to play with Cheetos in some way.
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋Š” ์น˜ํ† ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋†€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
11:03
I wasn't sure where to go with this. I invented Cheeto paint.
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์ด๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋†€์•„์•ผ ํ•  ์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž๊ณ  ์น˜ํ† ์Šค ํŽ˜์ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:07
Cheeto paint is a very simple way to paint with Cheetos.
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์น˜ํ† ์Šค ํŽ˜์ธํŠธ๋Š” ์น˜ํ† ์Šค๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:09
(Laughter)
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11:11
I discovered that Cheetos are good, expressive material.
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์ „ ์น˜ํ† ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์€ ํ‘œํ˜„์˜ ์žฌ๋ฃŒ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:14
And with these Cheetos, I began to think,
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์ด "๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด ์น˜ํ† ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?" ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
11:16
"What can I make with these Cheetos?"
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์ด "๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด ์น˜ํ† ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?" ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
11:18
And so, I began to crinkle up potato chip flecks, and also pretzels.
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๊ฐ์ž์นฉ ์กฐ์ž‘๋“ค๊ณผ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ฒผ๋“ค๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ๊ตฌ๊ฒจ๋„ฃ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:23
I was looking for some kind of form,
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์ „ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
11:25
and in the end, I made 100 butter-fries. Do you get it?
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” 100๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ-ํ”„๋ผ์ด(Butter-fries)๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
11:28
(Laughter)
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11:30
And each butter-fry is composed of different pieces.
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๊ฐ๊ฐ์˜ ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ ํ”„๋ผ์ด๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์กฐ๊ฐ๋“ค๋กœ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
People ask me how they make the antenna.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์•ˆํ…Œ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋ƒ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:36
Sometimes, they find a hair in the food. That's my hair.
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ๊ทธ ๋“ค์€ ์Œ์‹์†์—์„œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฝ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜์ฃ . ์ œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:38
My hair's clean -- it's okay.
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์ œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฝ์€ ๊นจ๋—ํ•˜๋‹ˆ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:40
I'm a tenured professor, which means, basically, I don't have to work anymore.
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์ €๋Š” ์ข…์‹  ๊ต์ˆ˜์ด๋ฉฐ ์ด ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณง ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ผ์„ ์•ˆํ•ด๋„ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:43
It's a strange business model. I can come into work everyday
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๋น„์ง€๋‹ˆ์Šค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด์ฃ . ์ „ ๋งค์ผ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
and staple five pieces of paper and just stare at it with my latte.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  5์žฅ์˜ ์ข…์ด๋ฅผ ์Šคํ…Œ์ดํ”Œ๋กœ ์ฒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์นดํŽ˜๋ผ๋–ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:49
End of story.
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๋์ด์ฃ .
11:51
(Laughter)
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11:52
But I realized that life could be very boring,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ ์ธ์ƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฌด๋ฏธ๊ฑด์กฐํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
11:54
so I've been thinking about life, and I notice that my camera --
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์ „ ์ธ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๋–  ์˜ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:56
my digital camera versus my car, a very strange thing.
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๋””์ง€ํ„ธ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ๋Œ€ ์ž๋™์ฐจ, ๋งค์šฐ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์กฐํ•ฉ์ด์ฃ .
12:01
The car is so big, the camera is so small,
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์ฐจ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฌ๊ณ  ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ž‘์€๋ฐ
12:03
yet the manual for the camera is so much bigger than the car manual.
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์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ๋งค๋‰ด์–ผ์ด ์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋งค๋‰ด์–ผ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‘๊บผ์šฐ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:07
It doesn't make any sense.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ์ƒ์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ดํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:09
(Laughter)
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12:11
So, I was in the Cape one time, and I typed the word "simplicity,"
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์ œ๊ฐ€ Cape cod์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์€ "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ž˜์— ์จ ๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ
12:14
and I discovered, in this weird, M. Night Shyamalan way,
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๊ธฐ์ดํ•œ M. Night Shyamalan๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ธ€์ž๋“ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ "M-I-T" ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
12:17
that I discovered [the] letters, M, I, T. You know the word?
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๊ธฐ์ดํ•œ M. Night Shyamalan๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ธ€์ž๋“ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ "M-I-T" ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
12:20
In the words "simplicity" and "complexity," M, I, T occur in perfect sequence.
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"๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ (Simplicity)"์™€ "๋ณต์žกํ•จ (Complexitu)"์—๋Š” "M-I-T"๊ฐ€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์ˆœ์„œ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:24
It's a bit eerie, isn't it?
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๋‹ค์†Œ ์ด์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
12:26
So, I thought, maybe I'll do this for the next twenty years or something.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ 10๋…„์ด์ƒ์€ ๋” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:29
And I wrote this book, "The Laws of Simplicity."
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด "๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:31
It's a very short, simple book. There are ten laws and three keys.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ 10๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฒ•์น™๊ณผ 3๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ•ต์‹ฌํ‚ค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:36
The ten laws and three keys -- I won't go over them because that's why I have a book,
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10๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฒ•์น™๊ณผ 3๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ•ต์‹ฌํ‚ค๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์›น์—์„œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ๋ณผ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:39
and also that's why it's on the Web for free.
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10๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฒ•์น™๊ณผ 3๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ•ต์‹ฌํ‚ค๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์›น์—์„œ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ๋ณผ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:41
But the laws are kind of like sushi in a way: there are all kinds.
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๋ฒ•์น™๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์Šค์‹œ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค ์žˆ์ฃ .
12:45
In Japan, they say that sushi is challenging.
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์ผ๋ณธ์—์„  ์Šค์‹œ๋Š” ํž˜๋“ค๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:47
You know the uni is the most challenging, so number ten is challenging.
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์šฐ๋‹ˆ(uni)๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํž˜๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฒ•์น™ 10๋ฒˆ์ด ํž˜๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:50
People hate number ten like they hate uni, actually.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ ์šฐ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋“ฏ์ด ๋ฒ•์น™ 10๋ฒˆ์„ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:53
The three keys are easy to eat, so this is anago, cooked already, so easy to eat.
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3๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ•ต์‹ฌํ‚ค๋Š” ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋จน๋Š” ์•„๋‚˜๊ณ ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์ตํ˜€์„œ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:57
So enjoy your sushi meal later, with the laws of simplicity.
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™์„ ์ ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์Šค์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ฒจ๋ณด์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:02
Because I want to simplify them for you.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•˜๊ธธ ์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:04
Because that's what this is about. I have to simplify this thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•˜์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:06
So, if I simplify the laws of simplicity,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
13:09
I have what's called the cookie versus laundry thing.
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์ „ ์ฟ ํ‚ค ๋Œ€ ์„ธํƒ๋ฌผ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:12
Anyone who has kids knows that if you offer a kid
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์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํฐ ์ฟ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ๋จน์„์ง€ ์ž‘์€ ์ฟ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ๋จน์„์ง€ ์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด
13:14
a big cookie or a small cookie,
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์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํฐ ์ฟ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ๋จน์„์ง€ ์ž‘์€ ์ฟ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ๋จน์„์ง€ ์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด
13:16
which cookie are they going to take? The big cookie.
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์–ด๋–ค ์ฟ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ํƒํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ํฐ ์ฟ ํ‚ค๊ฒ ์ฃ .
13:19
You can say the small cookie has Godiva chocolate bits in it,
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์ž‘์€ ์ฟ ํ‚ค์—๋Š” ๊ณ ๋””๋ฐ” ์ดˆ์ฝ”๋ › ์นฉ์ด ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
13:22
but it doesn't work. They want the big cookie.
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ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ํฐ ์ฟ ํ‚ค๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:25
But if you offer kids two piles of laundry to fold,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐœ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์„ธํƒ๋ฌผ๋”๋ฏธ 2๊ฐœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ์•ˆํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
13:29
the small pile or the big pile, which will they choose?
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์ž‘์€ ๋”๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ๊นŒ์š”, ํฐ ๋”๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ๊นŒ์š”?
13:32
Strangely, not the big pile. So, I think it's as simple as this.
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์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ํฐ ๋”๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด
13:37
You know, when you want more, it's because you want to enjoy it.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์š”๊ตฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๊ฑธ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
13:40
When you want less, it's because it's about work.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ ๊ฒŒ ์›ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:43
And so, to boil it all down, simplicity is about living life
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ „๋ถ€ ์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€๊ณผ ์ ์€ ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ด์•„์žˆ๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:47
with more enjoyment and less pain.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ „๋ถ€ ์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ์€ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€๊ณผ ์ ์€ ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ด์•„์žˆ๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:49
I think this is sort of simple more versus less.
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๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋งŽ์€๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ ์€๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:51
Basically, it always depends.
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ฃ .
13:55
This book I wrote because I want to figure out life.
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์ „ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์›ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:57
I love life. I love being alive. I like to see things.
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์ „ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์‚ด์•„์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:59
And so life is a big question, I think, in simplicity,
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์ธ์ƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•จ ์†์—์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•ด ๋ณผ๋•Œ ํฐ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:01
because you're trying to simplify your life.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์‚ถ์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
14:04
And I just love to see the world. The world is an amazing place.
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์ „ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์„ธ์ƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹๊ธด ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:07
By being at TED, we see so many things at one time.
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TED์— ์žˆ์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์— ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:10
And I can't help but enjoy looking at everything in the world.
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์ „ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋ชจ๋“ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:14
Like everything you see, every time you wake up.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๋งค๋ฒˆ ๊นจ์–ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:16
It's such a joy to sort of experience everything in the world.
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์ด ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์„ธ์ƒ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:20
From everything from a weird hotel lobby,
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๊ธฐ์ดํ•œ ํ˜ธํ…”์˜ ๋กœ๋น„์—์„œ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
14:22
to Saran wrap placed over your window,
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ํ‚ค์นœ๋žฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฎํžŒ ์ฐฝ๋ฌธ๊นŒ์ง€,
14:25
to this moment where I had my road in front of my house paved dark black,
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์ง„ํ•œ ๊ฒ€์ • ๋ธ”๋Ÿญ์ด ๊น”๋ฆฐ ๋‚˜์˜ ์ง‘์•ž์— ๊ธธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๊นŒ์ง€
14:29
and this white moth was sitting there dying in the sun.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ํ•˜์–€ ๋‚˜๋ฐฉ์ด ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์— ์•‰์•„ ํƒœ์–‘์•„๋ž˜์„œ ์ฃฝ์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ 
14:32
And so, this whole thing has struck me as exciting to be here,
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Œ์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ž๊ทนํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:36
because life is finite.
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๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ธ์ƒ์€ ์œ ํ•œํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:38
This was given to me by the chairman of Shiseido.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹œ์‰์ด๋„์˜ ํšŒ์žฅ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:41
He's an expert in aging. This horizontal axis is how old you are --
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋จน๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋กœ์ถ•์€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋จน์—ˆ๋ƒ์ด๊ณ 
14:44
twelve years old, twenty-four years old, seventy-four, ninety-six years old --
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12์‚ด, 24์‚ด, 74์‚ด, 96์‚ด...
14:48
and this is some medical data. So, brain strength increases up to 60,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ํ•™์  ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘๋‡Œ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์€ 60๊นŒ์ง€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ 
14:54
and then after 60, it sort of goes down. Kind of depressing in a way.
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60์ดํ›„์—๋Š” ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฐ์†Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:58
Also, if you look at your physical strength.
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์œก์ฒด์  ํž˜์˜ ์„ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ๋‹ค๋ฉด
15:00
You know, I have a lot of cocky freshmen at MIT, so I tell them,
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €์—๊ฒ ๋งŽ์€ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ๋งŒํ•œ MIT์˜ ์‹ ์ž…์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด ๋ง๋งŒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:03
"Oh, your bodies are really getting stronger and stronger,
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"์˜ค ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ํž˜์ด ์„ธ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ตฐ์š”, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 20๋Œ€ํ›„๋ฐ˜์ด๋‚˜ 30๋Œ€ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜์ด๋ฉด ์„ธํฌ๋“ค์€ ์ฃฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"
15:06
but in your late twenties and mid-thirties, cells, they die."
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"์˜ค ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ํž˜์ด ์„ธ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ตฐ์š”, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 20๋Œ€ํ›„๋ฐ˜์ด๋‚˜ 30๋Œ€ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜์ด๋ฉด ์„ธํฌ๋“ค์€ ์ฃฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค"
15:09
OK. It gets them to work harder, sometimes.
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๋„ค ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:12
And if you have your vision, vision is interesting.
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„์ ผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋น„์ ผ์€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:15
As you age from infant age, your vision gets better,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„์ „์€ ์ข€ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์ง€๊ณ 
15:19
and maybe in your late teens, early twenties, you're looking for a mate,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ 10๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜์ด๋‚˜ 20๋Œ€ ์ดˆ๋ฐ˜์ด๋˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ง์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ ์ž ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
15:22
and your vision goes after that.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„์ „์€ ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์ผ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:24
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
15:28
Your social responsibility is very interesting.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ฑ…์ž„์€ ๋” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:30
So, as you get older, you may, like, have kids, whatever.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋จน์–ด๊ฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
15:33
And then the kids graduate, and you have no responsibility any more --
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์กธ์—…์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด์ œ ๋” ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์ฑ…์ž„์ด ์—†์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:37
that's very good, too.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—ญ์‹œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹๊ธด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:39
But if any of you people ask,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ค‘ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป๊ธธ
15:41
"What actually goes up? Does anything go up?
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"๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐˆ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€? ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐˆ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
15:43
What's the positive part of this, you know?" I think wisdom always goes up.
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๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์˜ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ผ๊นŒ์š”?" ์ „ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ง€ํ˜œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:46
I love these eighty-year-old, ninety-year-old guys and women.
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์ „ 80์‚ด, 90์‚ด์˜ ๋…ธ์ธ๋“ค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:49
They have so many thoughts, and they have so much wisdom,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ง€ํ˜œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:51
and I think -- you know, this TED thing, I've come here.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ์ด TED์˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:53
And this is the fourth time, and I come here for this wisdom, I think.
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์ด๋ฒˆ์ด ๋„ค๋ฒˆ์งธ์ธ๋ฐ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ง€ํ˜œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์˜จ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:57
This whole TED effect, it sort of ups your wisdom, somehow.
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  TED์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ๋†’์€ ์ง€ํ˜œ์˜ ๊ณ ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:01
And I'm so glad to be here, and I'm very grateful to be here, Chris.
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And this is an amazing experience for me as well.
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