A theory of everything | Emily Levine

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Haeji Nam ๊ฒ€ํ† : Eunyoung Lim
00:12
I am going to talk about myself,
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์ง€๊ธˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:15
which I rarely do, because I --
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์ด๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋“œ๋ฌผ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ์š”,
00:18
well for one thing, I prefer to talk about things I know nothing about.
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์šฐ์„  ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:23
And secondly, I'm a recovering narcissist.
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ๋Š” ์ „ ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ณต์ฃผ๋ณ‘์—์„œ ํšŒ๋ณต ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:28
(Laughter)
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00:30
I didn't know I was a narcissist actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์ฃผ๋ณ‘์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ค„ ๋ชฐ๋ž์–ด์š”.
00:32
I thought narcissism meant you loved yourself.
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์ „ ๊ณต์ฃผ๋ณ‘์„ ์ž๊ธฐ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋กœ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ,
00:35
And then someone told me there is a flip side to it.
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์ด๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
00:37
So it's actually drearier than self-love;
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ณต์ฃผ๋ณ‘์€ ์ž๊ธฐ์• ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์šฐ์šธํ•˜์ฃ .
00:39
it's unrequited self-love.
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์ผ๋ฐฉ์ ์ธ ์ง์‚ฌ๋ž‘์ด๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
00:42
(Laughter)
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00:46
I don't feel I can afford a relapse.
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๋ณ‘์ด ์žฌ๋ฐœํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:49
But I want to, though, explain
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
00:52
how I came to design my own particular brand of comedy
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์ €๋งŒ์˜ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ฝ”๋ฏธ๋”” ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
because I've been through so many different forms of it.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ „ ์ •๋ง ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ํ˜•์‹๋“ค์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•ด๋ณด์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
00:57
I started with improvisation,
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—” ์ฆ‰ํฅ๊ทน๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
in a particular form of improvisation called theater games,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ƒํ™ฉ๊ทน์ด๋ผ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ ์ฆ‰ํฅ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
01:03
which had one rule,
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์ƒํ™ฉ๊ทน์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ทœ์น™์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
01:05
which I always thought was a great rule for an ethic for a society.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๊ฑด ์‚ฌํšŒ์œค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๊ทœ์น™์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
And the rule was, you couldn't deny the other person's reality,
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๊ทธ ๊ทœ์น™์ด๋ž€ ํƒ€์ธ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์ธ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
01:12
you could only build on it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ˜„์‹ค์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ทน์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
01:14
And of course we live in a society that's all about
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํƒ€์ธ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
01:17
contradicting other peoples' reality.
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์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:19
It's all about contradiction,
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์‚ฌํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ์ˆœ ์ฒœ์ง€๋ผ
01:21
which I think is why I'm so sensitive to contradiction in general.
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๋Œ€์ฒด๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ์ˆœ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:24
I see it everywhere.
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์ „ ์–ด๋””์„œ๋‚˜ ๋ชจ์ˆœ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:26
Like polls. You know, it's always curious to me
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๊ทธ ์˜ˆ๋กœ ์—ฌ๋ก ์กฐ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ „ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์˜๋ฌธ์ด ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด์š”,
01:29
that in public opinion polls
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์—ฌ๋ก  ์กฐ์‚ฌ์—์„œ
01:31
the percentage of Americans who don't know the answer to any given question
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์ฃผ์–ด์ง„ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์‘๋‹ตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์˜ ๋น„์œจ์ด
01:35
is always two percent.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ 2%๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
01:37
75 percent of Americans
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์˜ 75%๋Š”
01:40
think Alaska is part of Canada.
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Alaska ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค ์˜ํ† ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:42
But only two percent don't know the effect
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹จ์ง€ 2%๋งŒ์ด
01:45
that the debacle in Argentina will have on the IMF's monetary policy --
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์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ถ•๊ดด๊ฐ€ IMF์˜ ๊ธˆ์ „ ์ •์ฑ…์— ๋ฏธ์น  ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
01:50
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
01:51
seems a contradiction.
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๋ชจ์ˆœ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋„ค์š”.
01:54
Or this ad that I read in the New York Times:
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด New York Times์— ์‹ค๋ฆฐ ์ด ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด:
01:57
"Wearing a fine watch speaks loudly of your rank in society.
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โ€œ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ณ„๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ง€์œ„๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ํฌ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:01
Buying it from us screams good taste."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ณ ์ƒํ•œ ์ทจํ–ฅ์„ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์งˆ๋Ÿฌ ๋งํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.โ€
02:04
(Laughter)
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02:06
Or this that I found in a magazine called California Lawyer,
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California Lawyer๋ผ๋Š” ์žก์ง€์—์„œ ์ฐพ์€ ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
02:09
in an article that is surely meant for the lawyers at Enron.
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์ด๊ฑด ํ™•์‹คํžˆ Enron์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ณ€ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋„ค์š”,
02:13
"Surviving the Slammer: Do's and Don'ts."
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โ€œ๊ฐ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ๊ธฐ: ํ–‰๋™ ์ˆ˜์น™โ€
02:17
(Laughter)
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02:18
"Don't use big words."
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โ€œ์ž˜๋‚œ ์ฒด ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ.โ€
02:20
(Laughter)
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02:21
"Learn the lingua franca."
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โ€œ๊ณตํ†ต์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ๋ผ.โ€
02:24
(Laughter)
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02:31
Yeah. "Lingua this, Frankie."
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๋„ค, ๊ฐ๋ฐฉ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์–ธ์–ด์š”.
02:33
(Laughter)
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02:36
And I suppose it's a contradiction that I
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๋˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ•™์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋ฉด์„œ ๊ณผํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
02:39
talk about science when I don't know math.
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๋ชจ์ˆœ์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:43
You know, because -- and by the way to I was so grateful to Dean Kamen
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์•„๋ฌดํŠผ ์ „ Dean Kamen ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:46
for pointing out that one of the reasons,
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์†Œ์ˆ˜์ง‘๋‹จ์ด
02:48
that there are cultural reasons
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๊ณผํ•™๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋”›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š”
02:50
that women and minorities don't enter the fields of science and technology --
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๋ฌธํ™”์  ์›์ธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๊ตฌ์š”.
02:54
because for instance, the reason I don't do math is,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ•™์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
02:57
I was taught to do math and read at the same time.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ•™๊ณผ ์ฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋™์‹œ์— ๋ฐฐ์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
03:01
So you're six years old, you're reading Snow White and the Seven Dwarves,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด 6์‚ด์ด๊ณ  ๋ฐฑ์„ค๊ณต์ฃผ์™€ ์ผ๊ณฑ๋‚œ์žฅ์ด๋ฅผ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
03:04
and it becomes rapidly obvious
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์ด๊ฑด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์•Œ์•„ ์ฐจ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:06
that there are only two kinds of men in the world:
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์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋‚จ์ž,
03:08
dwarves and Prince Charmings.
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์ฆ‰, ๋‚œ์Ÿ์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ์™•์ž๋‹˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ์š”.
03:10
And the odds are seven to one against your finding the prince.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์™•์ž๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ํ™•๋ฅ ์€ 7๋Œ€ 1๋ฐ–์— ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
03:13
(Laughter)
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03:16
That's why little girls don't do math. It's too depressing.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์†Œ๋…€๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜ํ•™์„ ์•ˆ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์—์š”. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์šฐ์šธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
03:19
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
03:25
Of course, by talking about science
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ๊ณผํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด
03:27
I also may, as I did the other night,
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์ „ ์•„๋งˆ๋„, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์š” ์ „๋ฒˆ ๋ฐค์— ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋“ฏ์ด,
03:29
incur the violent wrath of some scientists
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
03:33
who were very upset with me.
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๋˜ ๋…ธ์—ฌ์›€์„ ์‚ด ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:36
I used the word postmodern as if it were OK.
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์ „ ํฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋ชจ๋˜์ด๋ž€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋“ฏ์ด ์ผ์–ด์š”.
03:41
And they got very upset.
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๊ทธ๋žฌ๋”๋‹ˆ ๋งค์šฐ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
03:44
One of them, to his credit, I think really just wanted to engage me
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋Š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ ˆ ์ •๋ง๋กœ
03:47
in a serious argument.
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์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์— ๋Œ์–ด๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด์š”.
03:49
But I don't engage in serious arguments.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์€ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:52
I don't approve of them
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์ €๋Š” ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋ฐ,
03:54
because arguments, of course, are all about contradiction,
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๋…ผ์Ÿ์€ ์ „๋ถ€ ๋ชจ์ˆœ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
03:57
and they're shaped by the values that I have questions with.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ํ˜•์„ฑ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:59
I have questions with the values of Newtonian science,
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์ „ ๋‰ดํ„ด์ฃผ์˜ ๊ณผํ•™์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋“ค์— ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
like rationality. You're supposed to be rational in an argument.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์„ฑ, ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ „์ œ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:07
Well rationality is constructed
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ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์„ฑ์€ ์ฒด๊ณ„ํ™” ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
04:09
by what Christie Hefner was talking about today,
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์˜ค๋Š˜ Christie Hefner๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ
04:12
that mind-body split, you know?
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์‚ฌ๊ณ ์™€ ์‹ ์ฒด๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ฆฌ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
04:14
The head is good, body bad.
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๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž˜ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ชธ์€ ์ž˜๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:17
Head is ego, body id.
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๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž์•„(ego)์ด๊ณ , ๋ชธ์€ ์›์ดˆ์•„(id)์ธ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
04:19
When we say "I," -- as when Rene Descartes said,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ โ€œ๋‚˜โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ง€์นญํ•  ๋•Œ -- Rene Descartes๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ
04:21
"I think therefore I am," --
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โ€œ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹คโ€,์—์„œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ --
04:24
we mean the head.
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๋‚˜๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋œปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
And as David Lee Roth sang in "Just a Gigolo,"
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  David Lee Roth๊ฐ€ โ€œ๊ทธ์ € ์ œ๋น„์กฑ์ผ๋ฟโ€,
04:29
"I ain't got no body."
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โ€œ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ดโ€ ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ž˜ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
04:32
That's how you get rationality.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์„ฑ์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
And that's why so much of humor
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
04:38
is the body asserting itself against the head.
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๋ชธ์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์œ ๋จธ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์œ ์—์š”.
04:42
That's why you have toilet humor and sexual humor.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค ์œ ๋จธ์™€ ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ์œ ๋จธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ณ ์š”.
04:45
That's why you have the Raspyni Brothers
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด Raspyni Brothers๊ฐ€
04:47
whacking Richard in the genital area.
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Richard์˜ ์ƒ์‹๊ธฐ ๋ถ€๊ทผ์„ ์„ธ๊ฒŒ ์น˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ง€์š”.
04:51
And we're laughing doubly then
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ์›ƒ๋Š”๋ฐ,
04:53
because he's the body, but it's also --
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ชธ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œโ€”
04:56
Voice offstage: Richard.
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๋ฌด๋Œ€ ๋ฐ– ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ: Richard.
04:57
Emily Levine: Richard. What did I say?
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Emily Levine: Richard. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
04:59
(Laughter)
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05:00
Richard. Yes but it's also the head,
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Richard. ๋„ค ์ด ๋ถ„ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์ฃ ,
05:02
the head of the conference.
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์ด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์˜ ์šฐ๋‘๋จธ๋ฆฌ์ด์‹œ์ฃ .
05:05
That's the other way that humor --
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์ •๋ถ€์˜ ์ƒ์ธต๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒจ๋ƒฅํ•˜๋Š”
05:07
like Art Buchwald takes shots at the heads of state.
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Art Buchwald ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์œ ๋จธ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:11
It doesn't make quite as much money as body humor I'm sure --
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๊ฑด๋Œ€, ๋ชธ ๊ฐœ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ๋ˆ์ด ๋ฒŒ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:14
(Laughter)
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05:16
but nevertheless, what makes us treasure you and adore you.
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์•„๋ผ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์žˆ์ฃ .
05:19
There's also a contradiction in rationality in this country though,
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์„ฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ชจ์ˆœ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
05:23
which is, as much as we revere the head,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์„ฑ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€์ˆ˜๋ก,
05:26
we are very anti-intellectual.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋”์šฑ ์ง€์‹์ธ์— ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:28
I know this because I read in the New York Times,
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์ด๊ฑด 911 ์ดํ›„ New York Times์— ์‹ค๋ฆฐ
05:32
the Ayn Rand foundation took out a full-page ad
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Ayn Rand ํ˜‘ํšŒ์˜ ์ „๋ฉด๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ 
05:35
after September 11,
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์•Œ์•˜์ฃ .
05:37
in which they said, "The problem is not Iraq or Iran,
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์ด ๊ด‘๊ณ ์—์„  โ€œ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์ด๋ผํฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๋ž€์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
the problem in this country, facing this country
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์ง๋ฉดํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
05:45
is the university professors and their spawn."
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๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต ๊ต์ˆ˜๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŽ์€ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด๋‹ค.โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
05:48
(Laughter)
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05:56
So I went back and re-read "The Fountainhead."
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” โ€œ๋งˆ์ฒœ๋ฃจ(The Fountainhead)โ€๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
(Laughter)
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06:00
I don't know how many of you have read it.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ฝ์œผ์…จ์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์š”.
06:02
And I'm not an expert on sadomasochism.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ๊ฐ€ํ•™ ํ”ผํ•™์„ฑ ๋ณ€ํƒœ์„ฑ์š•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:06
(Laughter)
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06:07
But let me just read you a couple of random passages from page 217.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ 217์ชฝ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ช‡ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฝ์–ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋„๋ก ํ•˜์ฃ .
06:12
"The act of a master
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โ€œ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ 
06:14
taking painful contemptuous possession of her,
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๋ชจ์š•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋…์ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฃผ์ธ์˜ ํ–‰๋™์€
06:17
was the kind of rapture she wanted.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ํ™ฉํ™€๊ณผ ํก์‚ฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
06:19
When they lay together in bed it was,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ™์ด ์นจ๋Œ€์— ๋ˆ„์›Œ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
06:22
as it had to be, as the nature of the act demanded,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์›๋ž˜ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ,
06:25
an act of violence.
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๋ณธ๋Šฅ์ด ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚œํญํ•œ ํ–‰์œ„์˜€๋‹ค.
06:28
It was an act of clenched teeth and hatred. It was the unendurable.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด๋กœ ์•…๋ฌด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์ฆ์˜ค์˜€๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฐธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
06:32
Not a caress, but a wave of pain.
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์• ๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ณ ํ†ต์˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฒฐ.
06:35
The agony as an act of passion."
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๊ณ ํ†ต์€ ์ •์—ด์˜ ํ–‰์œ„์˜€๋‹ค.โ€
06:38
So you can imagine my surprise
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์ด์ œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€
06:40
on reading in The New Yorker
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New Yorker์—์„œ
06:43
that Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Federal Reserve,
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์—ฐ๋ฐฉ์ค€๋น„์ œ๋„ ์ด์‚ฌํšŒ ์˜์žฅ Alan Greenspan์ด
06:46
claims Ayn Rand as his intellectual mentor.
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Ayn Rand๋ฅผ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ง€์  ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๋กœ ์ง€๋ชฉํ•œ ๊ฑธ ์ฝ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜ ๋†€๋ผ์›€์„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
06:49
(Laughter)
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06:52
It's like finding out your nanny is a dominatrix.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ณด๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ž ์ง€๋ฐฐ์ž(dominatrix)์ธ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ž‘ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜์ฃ .
06:55
(Laughter)
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06:57
Bad enough we had to see J. Edgar Hoover in a dress.
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๊ดด๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„ J. Edgar Hoover๊ฐ€ ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ž…์€ ๊ฑธ ๋ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
Now we have to picture Alan Greenspan
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์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” Alan Greenspan์ด
07:03
in a black leather corset, with a butt tattoo that says,
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์—‰๋ฉ์ด ๋‹จ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒ€์€ ๊ฐ€์ฃฝ ์ฝ”๋ฅด์…‹์„ ์ž…๊ณ 
07:05
"Whip inflation now."
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โ€œ๋‹น์žฅ ๋ฌผ๊ฐ€์ƒ์Šน์— ์ฑ„์ฐ์งˆ์„ ํ•ดโ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์š”
07:07
(Laughter)
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07:15
And Ayn Rand of course, Ayn Rand
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๋ฌผ๋ก , Any Rand๋Š”
07:17
is famous for a philosophy called Objectivism,
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๊ฐ๊ด€์ฃผ์˜๋ผ๋Š” ์ฒ ํ•™์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ฃ .
07:19
which reflects another value of Newtonian physics,
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์ด๊ฑด ๋‰ดํ„ด์ฃผ์˜ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌํ•™์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์น˜์ธ
07:22
which is objectivity.
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๊ฐ๊ด€์„ฑ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์คฌ๊ณ ์š”.
07:24
Objectivity basically is constructed
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๊ฐ๊ด€์„ฑ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€
07:27
in that same S&M way.
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S์™€ M(์ฃผ์„:sadism๊ณผ masochism)์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ทผ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:30
It's the subject subjugating the object.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ฃผ์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฌผ์„ ์ •๋ณตํ•œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:33
That's how you assert yourself.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋‹จ์–ธํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:35
You make yourself the active voice.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋Šฅ๋™์ ์ธ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:37
And the object is the passive no-voice.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฌผ์€ ์ˆ˜๋™์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ฃ .
07:40
I was so fascinated by that Oxygen commercial.
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์ „ ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ ์‚ฐ์†Œ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์— ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋บ๊ฒผ์ฃ .
07:43
I don't know if you know this but --
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด๊ฑธ ์•„์‹ค ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”, --
07:47
maybe it's different now, or maybe you were making a statement --
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ฐ”๊ผˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์„ฑ๋ช…์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ --
07:50
but in many hospital nurseries across the country,
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์ „๊ตญ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ‘์› ์‹ ์ƒ์•„์‹ค์—์„œ
07:53
until very recently anyway, according to a book by Jessica Benjamin,
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์•„์ฃผ ์ตœ๊ทผ๊นŒ์ง€๋„, Jessica Benjamin์˜ ์ฑ…์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
07:57
the signs over the little boys cribs read,
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๋‚จ์ž์•„์ด์˜ ์นจ๋Œ€๋งก์—๋Š”
08:00
"I'm a boy,"
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โ€œ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ‘œ์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:02
and the signs over the little girls cribs read,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ž ์•„์ด์˜ ์นจ๋Œ€๋งก์—๋Š”
08:04
"It's a girl." Yeah.
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โ€œ์–˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ ํ˜€์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
08:07
So the passivity was culturally
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์ˆ˜๋™์„ฑ์ด ๋ฌธํ™”์ ์œผ๋กœ
08:11
projected onto the little girls.
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ์—ฌ์ž์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณ„ํš๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:13
And this still goes on as I think I told you last year.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๋…„์— ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:16
There's a poll that proves --
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Time์ง€์˜ ํ†ต๊ณ„์ž๋ฃŒ ์ค‘์—๋Š”
08:18
there was a poll that was given by Time magazine,
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๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
08:22
in which only men were asked, "Have you ever had sex
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โ€œ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง ์‹ซ์–ดํ•œ ์—ฌ์ž์™€
08:25
with a woman you actively disliked?"
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์„ฑ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฐ€?โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:29
And well, yeah.
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๋„ค,
08:31
Well, 58 percent said yes,
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58%๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋‹ตํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
08:33
which I think is overinflated though
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ๊ณผ์žฅ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
08:35
because so many men if you just say,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
08:37
"Have you ever had sex ... " "Yes!"
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŒ์ผ โ€œ์„ฑ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ์–ด ๋ณธ ์ ์ดโ€ฆโ€ โ€œ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์š”!โ€
08:39
They don't even wait for the rest of it.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋งˆ์ € ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ค์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
08:41
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
08:44
And of course two percent did not know whether they'd had --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  2%์˜ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋ผ๋Š” ํ†ต๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์ฃ 
08:47
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
08:50
That's the first callback,
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฝœ๋ฐฑ(callback) ์ด์—์š”.
08:52
of my attempted quadruple.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ 4์ค‘์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘์—์š”.
08:54
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
08:57
So this subject-object thing,
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์ด ์ฃผ์ฒด-๋Œ€์ƒ์€
09:00
is part of something I'm very interested in
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ๋ฐ์š”,
09:03
because this is why, frankly, I believe in political correctness.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์†”์งํžˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •์น˜์  ๋‹จ์ •์„ ๋ฏฟ๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
09:09
I do. I think it can go too far.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋„๋ฅผ ๋„˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:11
I think Ringling Brothers may have gone too far
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์ €๋Š” Ringling Brothers๊ฐ€
09:14
with an ad they took out in the New York Times Magazine.
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New York Times์ง€์— ๋‚ธ ๊ด‘๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ง€๋‚˜์ณค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:16
"We have a lifelong emotional and financial
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โ€œ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ Asian Elephant ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ‰์ƒ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์ , ๊ฒฝ์ œ์ 
09:19
commitment to our Asian Elephant partners."
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์ฑ…์ž„์„ ๋‹คํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.โ€
09:23
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
09:25
Maybe too far. But you know --
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜๋„ ์ง€๋‚˜์ณค์–ด์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ --
09:27
I don't think that
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์ €๋Š” ์œ ์ƒ‰์ธ์ด
09:32
a person of color making fun of white people
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๋ฐฑ์ธ์„ ๋น„์›ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
09:34
is the same thing as a white person making fun of people of color.
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๋ฐฑ์ธ์ด ์œ ์ƒ‰์ธ์„ ๋น„์›ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:37
Or women making fun of men is the same as men making fun of women.
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๋˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์ž๋ฅผ ๋น„์›ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ž๋ฅผ ๋น„์›ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
09:41
Or poor people making fun of rich people, the same as rich people.
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๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€์ž๋ฅผ ๋น„์›ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋น„์›ƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๋งฅ๋ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:43
I think you can make fun of the have but not the have-nots,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ž๋Š” ๋น„์›ƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋น„์›ƒ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
09:46
which is why you don't see me making fun of
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ Kenneth Lay์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋ถ€์ธ์„
09:49
Kenneth Lay and his charming wife.
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๋น„์›ƒ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
09:52
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
09:53
What's funny about being down to four houses?
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์ง‘์ด ๋„ค ์ฑ„๋ฐ–์— ์•ˆ๋‚จ์€๊ฒŒ ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ์›ƒ๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
09:56
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
09:58
And I really learned this lesson
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๊ตํ›ˆ์„
10:01
during the sex scandals of the Clinton administration or,
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Clinton ์ •๋ถ€์˜ ์„น์Šค ์Šค์บ”๋“ค์—์„œ ์ง„์‹ค๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
Or as I call them, the good ol' days.
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์ €๋Š” โ€˜๊ทธ ์ข‹์•˜๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ๋“คโ€™์ด๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ฃ .
10:07
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
10:10
When people I knew, you know, people who considered themselves liberal,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์™œ ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”, ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ง„๋ณด์ฃผ์˜์ ์ด๋ผ
10:13
and everything else,
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
10:16
were making fun of Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones.
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Jennifer Flowers์™€ Paula Jones๋ฅผ ๋น„์›ƒ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
10:19
Basically, they were making fun of them for being
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋“ค ๋‘ ๋ช…์ด
10:23
trailer trash or white trash.
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๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ๋ฐฑ์ธ์ด๋ผ ๋น„์›ƒ์—‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:26
It seems, I suppose, a harmless prejudice
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์—, ์ด๊ฑด ์•…์˜์—†๋Š” ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์ด๊ณ 
10:29
and that you're not really hurting anybody.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋„ค์š”.
10:31
Until you read, as I did, an ad in the Los Angeles Times.
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์ €์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ Los Angeles Times์˜ ์ด ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
10:36
"For sale: White trash compactor."
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โ€œํŒ๋งค ์ค‘: ๊ฐ€๋‚œ๋ฑ…์ด ๋ฐฑ์ธ ์••์ถ•๊ธฐโ€
10:40
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
10:48
So this whole subject-object thing
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฃผ์ฒด-๋Œ€์ƒ์€
10:51
has relevance to humor in this way.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋จธ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:55
I read a book by a woman named Amy Richlin,
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์ „ Amy Richlin๋ผ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์“ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
10:59
who is the chair of the Classics department at USC.
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๊ทธ๋ถ„์€ USC์˜ ๊ณ ์ „ํ•™๊ณผ ํ•™์žฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:02
And the book is called "The Garden of Priapus."
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์ด ์ฑ…์˜ ์ œ๋ชฉ์€ โ€œํ”„๋ฆฌ์•„ํฌ์Šค์˜ ์ •์›(์ฃผ์„: ๋กœ๋งˆ์‹ ํ™”์—์„œ์˜ ๋‚จ์„ฑ ์ƒ์‹๋ ฅ์˜ ์‹ )โ€์œผ๋กœ,
11:04
And she says that Roman humor
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์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋กœ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Œ€์˜ ์œ ๋จธ๋Š”
11:08
mirrors the construction of Roman society.
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๋กœ๋งˆ์‚ฌํšŒ์˜ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:12
So that Roman society was very top/bottom,
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๋กœ๋งˆ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ƒ์˜ํ•˜๋‹ฌ์‹์ด์—ˆ์–ด์„œ
11:15
as ours is to some degree.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋„ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”,
11:17
And so was humor.
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๊ทธ ์œ ๋จธ ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:19
There always had to be the butt of a joke.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋†€๋ฆผ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:21
So it was always the satirist,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ
11:24
like Juvenal or Martial,
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Juvenal๋‚˜ Marshall์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ’์ž๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด
11:27
represented the audience,
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์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค์„ ๋Œ€ํ‘œํ•˜์—ฌ
11:30
and he was going to make fun of the outsider,
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์•„์›ƒ์‚ฌ์ด๋”๋ฅผ ๋น„์›ƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
the person who didn't share that subject status.
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์ฆ‰ ์ž์‹ ๋“ค๊ณผ๋Š” ์‹ ๋ถ„์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„์š”.
11:37
And in stand-up of course,
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๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋‹จ๋… ์ฝ”๋ฏธ๋”” ๊ณต์—ฐ์—์„œ๋Š”,
11:40
the stand-up comedian is supposed to dominate the audience.
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์ฝ”๋ฏธ๋””์–ธ์ด ๊ด€๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ์ฃผ๋„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:44
A lot of heckling is the tension
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๊ด€๊ฐ์˜ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์•ผ์œ ๋Š”
11:47
of trying to make sure that the
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๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ์–ด
11:50
comedian is going to be able to dominate,
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ฝ”๋ฏธ๋””์–ธ์ด ๊ด€๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ํœ˜์–ด์žก๊ณ 
11:53
and overcome the heckler.
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์•ผ์œ ๊พผ๋“ค์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜์ฃ .
11:57
And I got good at that when I was in stand up.
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๋‹จ๋…๊ณต์—ฐ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ž˜ ํ•ด์š”.
11:59
But I always hated it because they were
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ „ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฑธ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
12:01
dictating the terms of the interaction,
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๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ƒํ˜ธ์ž‘์šฉ์— ๊ทธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ผ์น˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
12:04
in the same way that engaging in a serious argument
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ,
12:07
determines the content, to some degree,
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๊ทธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„๋Š”
12:10
of what you're talking about.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ฒฐ์ •๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:12
And I was looking for a form
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์ „ ์–ด๋–ค ํ˜•์‹์„ ์ฐพ๋Š”๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
12:15
that didn't have that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฒŒ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:17
And so I wanted something that was more interactive.
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์ „ ์ข€ ๋” ์ƒํ˜ธ์ž‘์šฉ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:24
I know that word is so debased now
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์ „ ์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
12:28
by the use of it by Internet marketers.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ๋งˆ์ผ“ํ„ฐ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์งˆ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚ฎ์•„์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
I really miss the old telemarketers now, I'll tell you that.
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์ „ ์ •๋ง ์ด์ „ ํ…”๋ ˆ๋งˆ์ผ“ํ„ฐ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์šด๋ฐ, ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด์ฃผ์ง€์š”.
12:36
(Laughter)
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12:37
I do, because at least there you stood a chance. You know?
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์ •๋ง์ด์—์š”, ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
12:39
I used to actually hang up on them.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋Š๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
12:43
But then I read in "Dear Abby" that that was rude.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ Dear Abby์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ฝ์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:45
So the next time that one called
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ์— ํ…”๋ ˆ๋งˆ์ผ“ํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
12:48
I let him get halfway through his spiel and then I said,
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์ „ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ƒ์ˆ ์„ ๋ƒ…๋‘์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ „ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”,
12:50
"You sound sexy."
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โ€œ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„น์‹œํ•˜๋„ค์š”.โ€
12:52
(Laughter)
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12:56
He hung up on me!
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋จผ์ € ๋Š์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”!
12:58
(Laughter)
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13:06
But the interactivity allows the audience
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์ƒํ˜ธ์ž‘์šฉ์€
13:09
to shape what you're going to do as much as
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์˜ ์„ธ์ƒ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•ด ์ค€ ๋งŒํผ,
13:12
you shape their experience of the world.
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์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•ด ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:16
And that's really what I'm looking for.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:18
And I was sort of, as I was starting to analyze
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์ €๋Š”... ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€
13:21
what exactly it is that I do,
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๋ถ„์„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:23
I read a book called "Trickster Makes This World," by Lewis Hyde.
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Lewis Hyde์˜ โ€œ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋‹ค(Trickster Makes This World)โ€๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:28
And it was like being psychoanalyzed.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ •์‹ ๋ถ„์„์„ ๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:30
I mean he had laid it all out.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ํŽผ์ณ๋†จ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:32
And then coming to this conference,
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์ด ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์— ์™€๋ณด๋‹ˆ,
13:34
I realized that most everybody here
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ณ„์‹  ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ํŠน์„ฑ๋“ค์„
13:37
shared those same qualities
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๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:39
because really what trickster is
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด๋ž€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ
13:41
is an agent of change.
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๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ์ค‘๊ฐœ์ธ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:43
Trickster is a change agent.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ์ฃผ๋„์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:45
And the qualities that I'm about to describe
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน์„ฑ๋“ค์ด๋ž€
13:47
are the qualities that make it possible
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๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์‹คํ˜„๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š”
13:50
to make change happen.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:52
And one of these is boundary crossing.
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:56
I think this is what so, in fact, infuriated the scientists.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ „ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:59
But I like to cross boundaries.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์ „ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„˜๋‚˜๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
14:01
I like to, as I said, talk about things I know nothing about.
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์ด๋ฏธ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
14:05
(Phone Ringing)
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(์ „ํ™” ์šธ๋ฆผ)
14:07
I hope that's my agent,
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๋Œ€๋ฆฌ์ธ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.
14:10
because you aren't paying me anything.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ˆ ํ•œ ํ‘ผ ์•ˆ์ฃผ์ž–์•„์š”.
14:12
(Laughter)
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14:14
And I think it's good to talk about things I know nothing about
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์™ธํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
14:17
because I bring a fresh viewpoint to it, you know?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ด€์ ์„ ์ œ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
14:19
I'm able to see the contradiction
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์ „ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋†“์น  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”
14:21
that you may not be able to see.
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๋ชจ์ˆœ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:23
Like for instance a mime once --
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ฉด, ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ทน --
14:25
or a meme as he called himself.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธํ™”์ธ์ž๋กœ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์ฃ .
14:27
He was a very selfish meme.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ด๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ๋ฌธํ™”์ธ์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:31
And he said that I had to show more respect
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๋” ์กด๊ฒฝ์‹ฌ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์•ผํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
14:35
because it took up to 18 years
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๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ทน์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
14:37
to learn how to do mime properly.
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18๋…„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ ธ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ์š”.
14:40
And I said, "Well, that's how you know only stupid people go into it."
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์ „ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ , โ€œ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„์š”.โ€
14:44
(Laughter)
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14:45
It only takes two years to learn how to talk.
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ๋Š” 2๋…„ ๋ฐ–์— ์•ˆ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ž–์•„์š”.
14:48
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
14:52
(Applause)
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14:54
And you know people, this is the problem with
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
14:57
quote, objectivity, unquote.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ธ์šฉ, ๊ฐ๊ด€์„ฑ๊ณผ ์ธ์šฉ์˜ ๋์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:59
When you're only surrounded by people
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋‹จ์ง€
15:01
who speak the same vocabulary as you,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
15:03
or share the same set of assumptions as you,
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๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ€์ •์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ์—ฌ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
15:06
you start to think that that's reality.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:09
Like economists, you know, their definition of rational,
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๊ฒฝ์ œํ•™์ž๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ
15:12
that we all act out of our own economic self-interest.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ œ์ ์ธ ์ด์ต์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์ฃ .
15:16
Well, look at Michael Hawley,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ, Michael Hawley๋‚˜
15:18
or look at Dean Kamen,
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Dean Kamen,
15:20
or look at my grandmother.
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๋˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฃ .
15:22
My grandmother always acted in other people's interests,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ด์ต์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ™œ๋™ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:25
whether they wanted her to or not.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๋“  ์›์น˜ ์•Š๋“ ์ง€๊ฐ„์—์š”.
15:27
(Laughter)
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15:29
If they had had an Olympics in martyrdom,
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๋งŒ์ผ ์ˆœ๊ต์ž ์˜ฌ๋ฆผํ”ฝ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
15:32
my grandmother would have lost on purpose.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๊ณ ์˜๋กœ ์ง€์‹ค ๊ฑธ์š”.
15:34
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
15:41
"No, you take the prize.
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โ€œ์•„๋ƒ, ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๋ ด.
15:43
You're young. I'm old. Who's going to see it?
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๋„Œ ์ Š์ž–๋‹ˆ. ๋‚œ ๋Š™์—ˆ๊ณ . ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑธ ๋ณผ๋Š”์ง€?
15:45
Where am I going? I'm going to die soon."
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๋‚œ ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€? ๋‚œ ๊ณง ์ฃฝ๊ณ  ๋ง๊ฑธ.โ€
15:47
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
15:50
So that's one -- this boundary crossing,
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๊ทธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋กœ, -- ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„˜๋‚˜๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
15:53
this go-between which --
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ค‘๊ฐœ์ž์˜ ์˜ˆ๋กœ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . --
15:55
Fritz Lanting, is that his name,
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Frits Launting, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ด๋ฆ„์ธ๋ฐ์š”,
15:57
actually said that he was a go-between.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ค‘์žฌ์ž์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:59
That's an actual quality of the trickster.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:01
And another is, non-oppositional strategies.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”, ๋ฌด์ €ํ•ญ ์ „๋žต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:05
And this is instead of contradiction.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋ชจ์ˆœ ๋Œ€์‹ ์ด์ฃ .
16:08
Where you deny the other person's reality,
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ํƒ€์ธ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋ถ€์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
16:11
you have paradox
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ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ๊ณต์กดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”
16:13
where you allow more than one reality to coexist,
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์—ญ์„ค์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:16
I think there's another philosophical construction.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฒ ํ•™์  ํ•ด์„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:20
I'm not sure what it's called.
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๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
16:23
But my example of it is a sign that I saw in a jewelry store.
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์ด ์˜ˆ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์„๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ ์ผ์ „์— ๋ณธ ๊ฐ„ํŒ์„ ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„ค์š”,
16:26
It said, "Ears pierced while you wait."
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โ€œ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ๊ท€๊ฐ€ ๋šซ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
16:30
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
16:34
There the alternative just boggles the imagination.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋Œ€์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒ์ƒ์ด ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด์ฃ .
16:37
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
16:39
"Oh no. Thanks though, I'll leave them here. Thanks very much.
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โ€œ์˜ค ์•ˆ๋ผ. ์ œ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๋‘๊ณ  ๊ฐˆ๊ฒŒ์š”. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:42
I have some errands to run. So I'll be back to pick them up
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์ „ ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์šฉ๊ฑด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ์š”. 5์‹œ์ฏค ์™€์„œ ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ€๋„
16:45
around five, if that's OK with you.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„๊นŒ์š”.
16:48
Huh? Huh? What? Can't hear you."
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๋„ค? ์˜ˆ? ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ ์š”? ์•ˆ ๋“ค๋ ค์š”."
16:50
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
16:56
And another attribute of the trickster
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๊พ€์ž„๊พผ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŠน์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ
16:58
is smart luck.
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์žฌ์น˜์žˆ๋Š” ์šด์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
17:01
That accidents, that Louis Kahn, who talked about accidents,
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์šฐ์—ฐ๋“ค์€, ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์šฐ์—ฐ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•œ Louis Kahn์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด,
17:05
this is another quality of the trickster.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŠน์ƒ‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:07
The trickster has a mind that is prepared for the unprepared.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์€ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ค€๋น„๋œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:12
That, and I will say this to the scientists,
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์ด๊ฑด ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๋ฐ,
17:16
that the trickster has the ability to hold
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์€ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š”
17:20
his ideas lightly
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๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
17:22
so that he can let room in for new ideas
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
17:26
or to see the contradictions or the hidden problems
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์ž๊ธฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์˜ ๋ชจ์ˆœ์ด๋‚˜ ์ˆจ๊ฒจ์ง„ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ ๋“ค์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
17:29
with his ideas.
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์—ฌ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:31
I had no joke for that.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋†๋‹ด์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:33
I just wanted to put the scientists in their place.
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์ „ ๊ทธ์ € ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์˜์—ญ์— ๋‘๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๋ฟ์ด์—์š”.
17:36
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
17:41
But here's how I think I like to make change,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
17:45
and that is in making connections.
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์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ๋Š”๋ฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:47
This is what I tend to see
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ชจ์ˆœ์„
17:49
almost more than contradictions.
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์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:51
Like the, what do you call those toes of the gecko?
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ํ˜น์‹œ ๋„๋งˆ๋ฑ€๋ถ™์ด์˜ ๋ฐœ๊ฐ€๋ฝ๋“ค์„ ๋ญ๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š”์ง€ ์•„์„ธ์š”?
17:55
You know, the toes of the gecko,
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๋„๋งˆ๋ฑ€๋ถ™์ด์˜ ๋ฐœ๊ฐ€๋ฝ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
17:57
curling and uncurling like the fingers of Michael Moschen.
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Michael Moschen์˜ ์†๊ฐ€๋ฝ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ์•˜๋‹ค ํ’€์—ˆ๋‹ค ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ง์ด์ฃ 
18:01
I love connections.
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์ „ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:03
Like I'll read that one of the two attributes
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋‰ดํ„ด ์šฐ์ฃผ์—์„œ์˜ ๋ฌผ์งˆ์˜ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์†์„ฑ ์ค‘
18:05
of matter in the Newtonian universe --
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋งŒํผ์š”. --
18:08
there are two attributes of matter in the Newtonian universe --
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๋‰ดํ„ด ์šฐ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฌผ์งˆ์˜ ์†์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:11
one is space occupancy. Matter takes up space.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณต๊ฐ„ ์ ์œ ์œจ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ์งˆ์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:14
I guess the more you matter the more space you take up,
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ํ˜น์‹œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋” ์ค‘์š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”.
18:17
which explains the whole SUV phenomenon.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด SUV ์„ ํ˜ธ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ์ „๋ถ€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์š”.
18:19
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
18:22
And the other one though is impenetrability.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€์ž…์„ฑ(ไธๅฏๅ…ฅๆ€ง)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:25
Well, in ancient Rome, impenetrability
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๊ณ ๋Œ€ ๋กœ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Œ€์—๋Š” ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€์ž…์„ฑ์ด
18:28
was the criterion of masculinity.
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๋‚จ์„ฑ๋‹ค์›€์˜ ๊ธฐ์ค€์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:31
Masculinity depended on you
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๋‚จ์„ฑ๋‹ค์›€์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋Šฅ๋™์ ์ธ
18:33
being the active penetrator.
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ํ†ต์ฐฐ์ž์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ฒฐ์ •๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:36
And then, in economics, there's an active producer
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๊ฒฝ์ œํ•™์—๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋™์ ์ธ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์ž์™€
18:40
and a passive consumer,
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์ˆ˜๋™์ ์ธ ์†Œ๋น„์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
18:42
which explains why business always has to
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์™œ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ์—…์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ์žฅ๋“ค์—
18:44
penetrate new markets.
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์ง„์ถœํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:47
Well yeah, I mean why we forced China
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์ค‘๊ตญํ•œํ…Œ
18:49
to open her markets.
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์‹œ์žฅ์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ฐ•์š”ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:52
And didn't that feel good?
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์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ž–์•„์š”?
18:54
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
18:57
And now we're being penetrated.
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์ด์   ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์นจํˆฌ๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:59
You know the biotech companies are actually going inside us
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์ƒ๋ช…๊ณตํ•™ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์™€์„œ
19:02
and planting their little flags on our genes.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์œ ์ „์ž์— ์ž‘์€ ๊นƒ๋ฐœ๋“ค์„ ๊ฝ‚๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:05
You know we're being penetrated.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์นจํ•ด๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”.
19:07
And I suspect, by someone who actively dislikes us.
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์ œ ์ถ”์ธก์ปจ๋Œ€, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
19:10
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
19:14
That's the second of the quadruple.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด 4์ค‘์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:17
Yes of course you got that. Thank you very much.
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๋„ค, ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋ญ”์ง€ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ . ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ
19:19
I still have a way to go.
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์ „ ์•„์ง ๋งํ• ๊ฒŒ ๋‚จ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:21
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
19:25
And what I hope to do, when I make these connections,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋•Œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
19:28
is short circuit people's thinking.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ˆœํšŒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:32
You know, make you not follow your usual
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ผ๋ จ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ณ„๋“ค์„
19:35
train of association,
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๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋„๋ก ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
19:37
but make you rewire.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:40
It literally -- when people say about the shock of recognition,
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์ด ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ -- ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ธ์‹์˜ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ,
19:43
it's literally re-cognition, rewiring how you think --
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์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค --
19:53
I had a joke to go with this and I forgot it.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ๋„ค์š”.
19:56
I'm so sorry. I'm getting like
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์ •๋ง ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚ฌ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
19:59
the woman in that joke about --
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์ด ์–˜๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด --
20:01
have you heard this joke about the woman driving with her mother?
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์—„๋งˆ๋ž‘ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์‹  ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
20:04
And the mother is elderly.
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๋…ธ์ธ์ด์—์š”.
20:06
And the mother goes right through a red light.
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์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์šด์ „ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋นจ๊ฐ„๋ถˆ์„ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง€๋‚˜์น˜๋„ค์š”.
20:08
And the daughter doesn't want to say anything.
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๋”ธ์€ ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹ซ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
20:11
She doesn't want to be like, "You're too old to drive."
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” โ€œ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ์šด์ „ํ•˜๊ธฐ์—” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Š™์—ˆ์–ด.โ€ ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์€ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹ซ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
20:14
And the mother goes through a second red light.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋นจ๊ฐ„๋ถˆ์„ ์ง€๋‚˜์ณค์ฃ .
20:17
And the daughter says, as tactfully as possible,
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๊ทธ์ œ์„œ์•ผ ๋”ธ์€ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œํ•œ ์žฌ์น˜์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ,
20:20
"Mom, are you aware that you just went through two red lights?"
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โ€œ์—„๋งˆ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋นจ๊ฐ„๋ถˆ์„ ๋‘๊ฐœ ์ง€๋‚˜์นœ ๊ฑฐ ์•„์„ธ์š”?โ€
20:24
And the mother says, "Oh! Am I driving?"
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ž ์—„๋งˆ ์™ˆ, โ€œ์˜ค! ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์šด์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด?โ€
20:27
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
20:33
And that's the shock of recognition
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ธ์‹์˜ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์— ์˜ํ•œ
20:35
at the shock of recognition.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธ์‹์˜ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:37
That completes the quadruple.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ์จ 4์ค‘ ๊ฐœ๊ทธ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋๋‚ฌ๋„ค์š”.
20:40
(Laughter)
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( ์›ƒ์Œ )
20:42
I just want to say two more things.
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์ด์ œ ๋‘๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:46
One is, another characteristic of trickster
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”, ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํŠน์ง•์€
20:50
is that the trickster has to
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ๋“ค์€
20:52
walk this fine line.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ณก์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:54
He has to have poise.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:56
And you know the biggest hurdle for me,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์žฅ์• ๋ฌผ์€
20:59
in doing what I do,
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๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ƒ๋ฉด
21:01
is constructing my performance
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์ œ ํผํฌ๋จผ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜์—ฌ
21:03
so that it's prepared and unprepared.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ธ ์ค€๋น„ ํ˜น์€ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:06
Finding the balance between those things
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์ด ๋‘๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
21:09
is always dangerous
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์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์•„์Šฌ์•„์Šฌํ•œ๋ฐ์š”,
21:11
because you might tip off too much in the direction of unprepared.
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์ค€๋น„๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:14
But being too prepared doesn't leave room
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์ค€๋น„๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€
21:17
for the accidents to happen.
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์šฐ์—ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์—ฌ์œ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์ฃ .
21:19
I was thinking about what Moshe Safdie
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์ „ Moshe Safdie๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ
21:24
said yesterday about beauty
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:26
because in his book, Hyde says that
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๊ทธ์˜ ์ฑ…์—์„œ, Hyde๋Š”
21:30
sometimes trickster can tip over into beauty.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์€ ๊ฐ„ํ˜น ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์— ๋น ์ ธ ๋’ค์ง‘ํž ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
21:35
But to do that you have to
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์— ๋น ์ง€๋ฉด
21:38
lose all the other qualities
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ํŠน์ƒ‰๋“ค์„ ์žƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
21:40
because once you're into beauty
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์— ๋น ์ง€๋ฉด
21:42
you're into a finished thing.
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๋‹ค ๋๋‚œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋น ์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
21:44
You're into something that
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ 
21:46
occupies space and inhabits time.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋น ์ง„๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:48
It's an actual thing.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:50
And it is always extraordinary to see a thing of beauty.
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:55
But if you don't do that,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์— ๋น ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋ฐ๋„,
21:57
if you allow for the accident to keep on happening,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
22:01
you have the possibility of getting on a wavelength.
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์–ด๋–ค ํŒŒ์žฅ์— ๋ชธ์„ ์‹ค์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:04
I like to think of what I do as a probability wave.
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์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์˜ ํŒŒ๋„๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:11
When you go into beauty the probability wave
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์— ๋น ์ง€๋ฉด ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์˜ ํŒŒ๋„๋Š”
22:13
collapses into one possibility.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:16
And I like to explore all the possibilities
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์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์„ ํƒํ—˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:19
in the hope that you'll be on the wavelength of your audience.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค์˜ ํŒŒ๋„๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:24
And the one final quality I want to say about trickster is
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ํŠน์ƒ‰์€
22:27
that he doesn't have a home.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ง‘์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:29
He's always on the road.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ธธ ์œ„์— ์žˆ์ฃ .
22:31
I want to say to you Richard, in closing,
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๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ, Richard์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋„ค์š”.
22:35
that in TED you've created a home.
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TED์•ˆ์— ์ง‘์„ ์ง€์œผ์…จ๊ตฐ์š”.
22:41
And thank you for inviting me into it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ˆ ์ด ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:43
Thank you very much.
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์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:45
(Applause)
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( ๋ฐ•์ˆ˜๊ฐˆ์ฑ„ )
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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