What if all US health care costs were transparent? | Jeanne Pinder

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Do Hee (Annie) Kim κ²€ν† : Gichung Lee
00:12
So, a little while ago,
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μ–Όλ§ˆ 전에
00:14
members of my family had three bits of minor surgery,
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제 κ°€μ‘± 쀑 λͺ‡λͺ…이 각 각 30λΆ„μ”©
00:17
about a half hour each,
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κ°€λ²Όμš΄ μ‹œμˆ μ„ λ°›μ•˜λŠ”λ°
00:19
and we got three sets of bills.
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κ·Έ 이후에 3개의 μ²­κ΅¬μ„œλ₯Ό λ°›μ•˜μ–΄μš”.
00:22
For the first one, the anesthesia bill alone was 2,000 dollars;
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첫번째 μ²­κ΅¬μ„œλŠ” λ§ˆμ·¨λΉ„λ§Œ 2,000뢈(μ•½ 210λ§Œμ›),
00:26
the second one, 2,000 dollars;
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두 λ²ˆμ§ΈλŠ” 2,000뢈,
00:28
the third one, 6,000 dollars.
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μ„Έ λ²ˆμ§ΈλŠ” 6,000뢈(μ•½ 700λ§Œμ›)μ΄μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
00:32
So I'm a journalist. I'm like, what's up with that?
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μ €λŠ” μ‹ λ¬Έ κΈ°μžκ±°λ“ μš”. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ™œ μ΄λŸ°μ§€ κΆκΈˆν•΄μ‘Œμ–΄μš”.
00:37
I found out that I was actually, for the expensive one,
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μ•Œκ³ λ³΄λ‹ˆ 제일 λΉ„μ‹Ό μ²­κ΅¬μ„œμ—λŠ”
00:40
being charged 1,419 dollars for a generic anti-nausea drug
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μΈν„°λ„·μ—μ„œλŠ” 2뢈 49μ„ΌνŠΈ 밖에 μ•ˆν•˜λŠ” ν‰λ²”ν•œ 멀미약이
00:45
that I could buy online for two dollars and forty-nine cents.
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λ³‘μ›μ—μ„œλŠ” 1,419뢈(μ•½ 150λ§Œμ›)μ΄λ‚˜ λ°›λ”λΌκ³ μš”.
00:50
I had a long and unsatisfactory argument with the hospital,
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μ €λŠ” κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 병원, λ³΄ν—˜μ—…μž, 그리고 κ³ μš©μ£Όμ™€
00:53
the insurer and my employer.
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μ•„μ£Ό κΈΈκ³  λ§Œμ‘±μŠ€λŸ½μ§€ μ•Šμ€ λ§λ‹€νˆΌμ„ ν•˜κ²Œλ˜μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
00:56
Everybody agreed that this was totally fine.
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λͺ¨λ‘ 이건 정상이라고 ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
00:59
But it got me thinking, and the more I talked to people, the more I realized:
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그런데 μ œκ°€ 계속 생각해보고 λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄λž‘ 말해본 κ²°κ³Ό
01:03
nobody has any idea what stuff costs in health care.
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병원비가 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ κ΅¬μ„±λ˜μ–΄μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ œλŒ€λ‘œ μ•Œκ³  μžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μ—†λŠ” 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
01:06
Not before, during or after that procedure or test
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수술 λ˜λŠ” 검사 μ „, 쀑, λ˜λŠ” 후에 병원비가 μ–Όλ§ˆμΈμ§€
01:09
do you have any idea what it's going to cost.
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아무도 λͺ¨λ₯΄λŠ” 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
01:11
It's only months later that you get an "explanation of benefits"
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κ²°κ΅­ λͺ‡ 달 λ’€κ°€ λ˜μ–΄μ„œμ•Ό "ν˜œνƒ μ„€λͺ…"을 λ°›λŠ”λ°
01:15
that explains exactly nothing.
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그것은 아무 도움이 μ•ˆ 되죠.
01:17
So this came back to me a little while later.
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μ’€ μ§€λ‚œ 후에 또 λΉ„μŠ·ν•œ 일을 κ²½ν—˜ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:20
I had volunteered for a buyout from the New York Times,
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μ œκ°€ 20λ…„ λ„˜κ²Œ μ‹ λ¬Έ 기자둜 μΌν–ˆλ˜
01:23
where I had worked for more than 20 years as a journalist.
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λ‰΄μš• νƒ€μž„μ¦ˆλ‘œλΆ€ν„° 인수λ₯Ό μžμ²­ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:26
I was looking for my next act.
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μ €λŠ” λ‹€μŒ ν–‰λ‘œλ₯Ό λͺ¨μƒ‰ν•˜λ˜ μ€‘μ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
01:28
It turned out that next act was to build a company
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κ²°κ΅­ 그것은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ 병원비가 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ ꡬ성 λ˜μ–΄μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œλ €μ£ΌλŠ”
01:31
telling people what stuff costs in health care.
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νšŒμ‚¬λ₯Ό μ°¨λ¦¬λŠ” κ²ƒμ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:34
I won a "Shark Tank"-type pitch contest to do just that.
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"Shark Tank(μ°½μ—…νˆ¬μžμœ μΉ˜ μ˜€λ””μ…˜ 방솑)” 같은 κ²ƒμ—μ„œ μ΄κ²¨μ„œ ν•  수 μžˆμ—ˆμ£ .
01:37
Health costs ate up almost 18 percent of our gross domestic product last year,
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μž‘λ…„ κ΅­λ‚΄ μ΄μƒμ‚°μ˜ 거의 18%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§€ν–ˆλ˜ μ˜λ£ŒλΉ„κ°€
01:42
but nobody has any idea what stuff costs.
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ ꡬ성 λ˜μ—ˆλŠ”μ§€λŠ” 아무도 λͺ¨λ₯΄μ£ .
01:45
But what if we did know?
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ•Œμ•˜λ‹€λ©΄ μ–΄λ• μ„κΉŒμš”?
01:48
So we started out small.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μž‘κ²Œ μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ£ .
01:49
We called doctors and hospitals
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μ˜μ‚¬λ“€κ³Ό 병원에 μ „ν™”λ₯Ό κ±Έμ–΄
01:51
and asked them what they would accept as a cash payment for simple procedures.
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κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ μ‹œμˆ μ„ ν˜„κΈˆμœΌλ‘œ λ°›μœΌλ©΄ μ–Όλ§ˆ 받을지 λ¬Όμ–΄λ΄€μ–΄μš”.
01:57
Some people were helpful.
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μ–΄λ–€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 도움이 λ˜μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
01:58
A lot of people hung up on us.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ μ „ν™”λ₯Ό λŠμ—ˆμ£ .
02:00
Some people were just plain rude.
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μ–΄λ–€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ κ·Έλƒ₯ λ¬΄λ‘€ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
02:02
They said, "We don't know,"
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그듀은 "잘 λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ–΄μš”"라고 닡을 ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜
02:04
or, "Our lawyers won't let us tell you that,"
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"λ³€ν˜Έμ‚¬κ°€ λ§ν•˜μ§€ 말라고 ν–ˆμ–΄μš”." 라고 닡을 ν•˜κΈ΄ ν–ˆμ§€λ§Œ
02:07
though we did get a lot of information.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ§Žμ€ 정보λ₯Ό μ–»μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
02:10
We found, for example, that here in the New York area,
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예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ λ‰΄μš• μ§€μ—­μ—μ„œλŠ”
02:12
you could get an echocardiogram for 200 dollars in Brooklyn
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λΈŒλ£¨ν΄λ¦°μ—μ„œλŠ” 200뢈(μ•½ 21λ§Œμ›)이면 λ°›λŠ” 초음파 검사λ₯Ό
02:17
or for 2,150 dollars in Manhattan, just a few miles away.
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λͺ‡ 마일만 κ°€λ©΄ μžˆλŠ” λ§¨ν•΄νŠΌμ—μ„œ λ°›μœΌλ©΄ 2,150뢈(μ•½ 220λ§Œμ›)μ΄μ—μš”.
02:22
New Orleans, the same simple blood test,
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λ‰΄μ˜¬λ¦¬μ–ΈμŠ€μ—μ„œλŠ” κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ ν”Όκ²€μ‚¬λŠ”
02:25
19 dollars over here,
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19뢈(μ•½ 2λ§Œμ›)μ΄μ§€λ§Œ
02:27
522 dollars just a few blocks away.
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λͺ‡ 블둝 떨어진 κ³³μ—μ„œλŠ” 522뢈(μ•½ 55λ§Œμ›)μ΄μ—μš”.
02:31
San Francisco, the same MRI,
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μƒŒν”„λž€μ‹œμŠ€μ½”μ—μ„œ λ°›λŠ” MRI 사진 μ΄¬μ˜μ€
02:34
475 dollars
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475뢈(μ•½ 50λ§Œμ›)μ΄μ§€λ§Œ
02:36
or 6,221 dollars just 25 miles away.
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25마일 떨어진 κ³³μ—μ„œλŠ” 6,221뢈(μ•½ 650λ§Œμ›)μ΄μ—μš”.
02:42
These pricing variations existed for all the procedures
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이런 κ°€κ²©μ°¨μ΄λŠ” λͺ¨λ“  μ‹œμˆ μ—μ„œ 확인할 수 μžˆμ—ˆκ³ 
02:46
and all the cities that we surveyed.
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ‘°μ‚¬ν•œ λͺ¨λ“  λ„μ‹œμ—μ„œ λ³Ό 수 μžˆμ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
02:49
Then we started to ask people to tell us their health bills.
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그리고 우린 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ 병원비λ₯Ό μ–Όλ§ˆ λƒˆλŠ”μ§€ 물어보기 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
02:52
In partnership with public radio station WNYC here in New York,
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λ‰΄μš•μ— μžˆλŠ” λŒ€μ€‘ λΌλ””μ˜€ 방솑ꡭ WNYC와 ν•©λ™ν•΄μ„œ
02:56
we asked women to tell us the prices of their mammograms.
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여성뢄듀은 μœ λ°©μ‘°μ˜μƒμ„ λ°›μœΌλ©΄ μ–Όλ§ˆλ₯Ό λ‚΄λŠ”μ§€ λ¬Όμ–΄λ΄€μ–΄μš”.
02:59
People told us nobody would do that, that it was too personal.
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λ„ˆλ¬΄ 사적인 것을 λ¬Όμ–΄λ΄μ„œ 아무도 μ°Έμ—¬ μ•ˆ ν•  것이라고 μƒκ°ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
03:03
But in the space of three weeks,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 3μ£Ό λ§Œμ—
03:05
400 women told us about their prices.
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400λͺ…μ˜ 여성뢄듀이 μ°Έμ—¬ ν•˜μ…¨μ–΄μš”.
03:09
Then we started to make it easier for people to share their data
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 더 μ‰½κ²Œ 정보λ₯Ό κ³΅μœ ν•  수 있게
03:12
into our online searchable database.
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검색가λŠ₯ν•œ 온라인 λ°μ΄ν„°λ² μ΄μŠ€λ₯Ό λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
03:15
It's sort of like a mash-up of Kayak.com and the Waze traffic app for health care.
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λ‹€μ†Œ Kayak.comν•˜κ³  Waze ꡐ톡 정보앱을 μ„žμ–΄ 놓은 것 같은 μ˜λ£Œμ•±μ΄μ—μš”.
03:20
(Laughter)
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(μ›ƒμŒ)
03:21
We call it a community-created guide to health costs.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이것을 μ§€μ—­μ‚¬νšŒ 자체 수립 μ˜λ£ŒλΉ„ κ°€μ΄λ“œλΌκ³  λΆˆλŸ¬μš”.
03:24
Our survey and crowdsourcing work grew into partnerships
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ‹œμž‘ν•œ μ„€λ¬Έκ³Ό ν¬λΌμš°λ“œ μ†Œμ‹±μ€
03:26
with top newsrooms nationwide --
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λ‰΄μ˜¬λ¦¬μ–ΈμŠ€, 필라델피아, μƒŒν”„λž€μ‹œμŠ€μ½”,
03:28
in New Orleans, Philadelphia,
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λ‘œμŠ€μ•€μ €λ ˆμŠ€, λ§ˆμ΄μ• λ―Έ 등에 μžˆλŠ”
03:30
San Francisco, Los Angeles, Miami and other places.
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톱 방솑사듀과 동업을 ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
03:35
We used the data to tell stories about people who were suffering
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이 데이터λ₯Ό μ΄μš©ν•΄ 고톡을 λ°›κ³  μžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ˜ 이야기λ₯Ό κ³΅μœ ν•˜κ³ 
03:39
and how to avoid that suffering, to avoid that "gotcha" bill.
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œν•˜λ©΄ 이 고톡 (β€œμž‘μ•˜λ‹€β€ μ²­κ΅¬μ„œ)을 ν”Όν•  수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
03:44
A woman in New Orleans saved nearly 4,000 dollars using our data.
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λ‰΄μ˜¬λ¦¬μ–ΈμŠ€ μ‚¬λŠ” ν•œ 여성뢄은 우리 데이터λ₯Ό μ΄μš©ν•΄ 거의 4,000뢈(μ•½ 450λ§Œμ›)을 μ ˆμ•½ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
03:49
A San Francisco contributor saved nearly 1,300 dollars
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μƒŒν”„λž€μ‹œμŠ€μ½” μ‚¬λŠ” ν•œ μ°Έμ„μžλŠ”
03:52
by putting away his insurance card
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λ³΄ν—˜ μΉ΄λ“œλ₯Ό 쓰지 μ•Šκ³  ν˜„κΈˆμ„ λ‚΄μ„œ
03:54
and paying cash.
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거의 1,300λΆˆμ„ μ•„λ‚„ 수 μžˆμ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
03:56
There are a lot of people who are going to in-network hospitals
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ μ„œλ‘œ μ—°κ³„λœ 병원듀에 λ‹€λ‹ˆλ©΄μ„œλ„
03:59
and getting out-of-network bills.
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μ—°κ³„λ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ μ²­κ΅¬μ„œλ₯Ό λ°›κ³  μžˆμ—ˆμ£ .
04:01
And then there was the hospital that continued to bill a dead man.
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죽은 μ‚¬λžŒμ—κ²Œλ„ κ³„μ†ν•˜μ—¬ λˆμ„ μ²­κ΅¬ν•˜λŠ” 병원도 μžˆμ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
04:05
We learned that thousands of people wanted to tell us their prices.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 수천λͺ…μ˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ λ‚Έ λΉ„μš©μ„ 곡유λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ•Œκ²Œλ˜μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
04:08
They want to learn what stuff costs,
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그듀은 병원비 ν•­λͺ©μ΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ ꡬ성이 λ˜μ–΄μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œκ³ 
04:10
find out how to argue a bill,
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ²­κ΅¬μ„œλ₯Ό λ°˜λ°•ν•  수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œμ•„ λ‚΄λ©°
04:11
help us solve this problem that's hurting them and their friends and families.
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κ·Έλ“€ μžμ‹ κ³Ό 친ꡬ 가쑱듀을 νž˜λ“€κ²Œ ν•˜λŠ” 이 문제λ₯Ό ν•΄κ²°ν•˜λŠ” 것을 λ•κ³ μž ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:15
We talked to people who had to sell a car to pay a health bill,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 병원비λ₯Ό λ‚΄λ €κ³  μ°¨λ₯Ό νŒ”κ³ 
04:18
go into bankruptcy,
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νŒŒμ‚°ν•˜κ³ 
04:20
skip a treatment because of the cost.
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돈 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 치료λ₯Ό λͺ» 받은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€κ³Όλ„ 이야기 ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
04:23
Imagine if you could afford the diagnosis
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λ§Œμ•½ 진단은 받을 수 μžˆμ§€λ§Œ μΉ˜λ£ŒλŠ” λͺ» λ°›λŠ”
04:25
but not the cure.
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그런 상황을 상상을 ν•΄λ΄…μ‹œλ‹€.
04:29
We set off a huge conversation about costs
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우린 μ˜μ‚¬, 병원 그리고
04:31
involving doctors and hospitals, yes, but also their patients,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ ν”νžˆ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λΌκ³  λΆ€λ₯΄λŠ” ν™˜μžλ“€κ³Ό κ΄€λ ¨λœ
04:35
or as we like to call them, people.
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λΉ„μš©μ— λŒ€ν•΄ λŒ€ν™”λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
04:37
(Laughter)
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(μ›ƒμŒ)
04:41
We changed policy.
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우린 의료 정책을 λ°”κΏ¨μ–΄μš”.
04:42
A consumer protection bill that had been stalled
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λ£¨μ΄μ§€μ• λ‚˜μ—μ„œ 10λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ ν†΅κ³Όν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•œ
04:45
in the Louisiana legislature for 10 years
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μ†ŒλΉ„μž λ³΄ν˜Έλ²•μ€
04:47
passed after we launched.
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저희 νšŒμ‚¬κ°€ μ„Έμ›Œμ§„ ν›„ 톡과λ₯Ό ν•  수 μžˆμ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
04:50
Let's face it:
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μ†”μ§νžˆ λ§ν•˜λ©΄
04:51
this huge, slow-rolling public health crisis
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점차 컀지고 잘 μ•ˆλ°”λ€ŒλŠ” 이 곡쀑 보건 μœ„κΈ°λŠ”
04:54
is a national emergency.
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ꡭ가적 비상 μƒνƒœμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:56
And I don't think government's going to help us out anytime soon.
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그리고 μ •λΆ€κ°€ 우리λ₯Ό 금방 λ„μšΈκ²ƒ 같지도 μ•Šκ³ μš”.
05:00
But what if the answer was really simple:
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 해결책이 정말 κ°„λ‹¨ν•˜λ‹€λ©΄ μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
05:02
make all the prices public all the time.
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가격을 항상 κ³΅κ°œν•˜λŠ” 것이죠.
05:06
Would our individual bills go down? Our health premiums?
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각자의 청ꡬ비가 λ‚΄λ €κ°ˆκΉŒμš”? λ˜ν•œ 건강 λ³΄ν—˜λ£ŒλŠ”μš”?
05:11
Be really clear about this:
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ν™•μ‹€νžˆ 해둬야 ν•  것은
05:13
this is a United States problem.
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이 λ¬Έμ œκ°€ λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œλ‚˜ λ³Ό 수 μžˆλŠ” λ¬Έμ œλΌλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:15
In most of the rest of the developed world,
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선진ꡭ듀에 μ‚¬λŠ” 거의 λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ ν™˜μžλ“€μ€
05:17
sick people don't have to worry about money.
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돈 걱정을 ν•  ν•„μš” μ—†μ–΄μš”.
05:20
It's also true that price transparency will not solve every problem.
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가격 투λͺ…성이 λͺ¨λ“  문제λ₯Ό ν•΄κ²°ν•  수 μ—†λŠ” 것을 μ•Œμ•„μš”.
05:24
There will still be expensive treatments,
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λΉ„μ‹Ό μΉ˜λ£ŒλŠ” μ—¬μ „νžˆ μžˆμ„ 것이고
05:27
huge friction from our insurance system.
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λ³΄ν—˜ μ œλ„μ™€ μ—„μ²­ 큰 λ§ˆμ°°λ„ μžˆμ„ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:29
There will still be fraud
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사기λ₯Ό μΉ˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ„ μ—¬μ „νžˆ μžˆμ„ 것이고
05:31
and a massive problem with overtreatment and overdiagnosis.
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κ³Όμž‰ μ§„λ£Œμ™€ κ³Όλ„ν•œ 진단도 계속 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμ΄μ—μš”.
05:35
And not everything is shoppable.
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그리고 λͺ¨λ“  것이 ꡬ맀가 κ°€λŠ₯ν•œ 것도 μ•„λ‹ˆμ—μš”.
05:38
Not everybody wants the cheapest appendectomy
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λˆ„κ΅¬λ“ μ§€ κ°€μž₯ μ €λ ΄ν•œ λ§Ήμž₯ μˆ˜μˆ μ„ λ°›κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄ ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜
05:40
or the cheapest cancer care.
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κ°€μž₯ μ €λ ΄ν•œ μ•” 치료λ₯Ό λ°›κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄ ν•˜λŠ” 것도 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:43
But when we talk about these clear effects,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이런 λΆ„λͺ…ν•œ νš¨κ³Όμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 계속 이야기 ν• μˆ˜λ‘
05:45
we're looking at a real issue that's actually very simple.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ•„μ£Ό κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ 문제λ₯Ό μ‚΄ν”Όκ³  μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ•Œ 수 μžˆμ–΄μš”.
05:50
When we first started calling for prices,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 제일 μ²˜μŒμ— 가격을 물어보렀고 μ „ν™”λ₯Ό ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ
05:52
we actually felt like we were going to be arrested.
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곧 체포될 κ²ƒλ§Œ 같이 λŠκ»΄μ‘Œμ–΄μš”.
05:55
It seemed kind of transgressive to talk about medicine and health care
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μ˜ν•™κ³Ό 의료 μ„œλΉ„μŠ€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ λ§ν•˜λŠ” 게 λ‹€μ†Œ κ΄€μŠ΅μ— 거슀λ₯΄λŠ” 것 같기도 ν•˜λ©΄μ„œ
05:58
in the same breath,
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06:00
and yet it became liberating,
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해방감도 μ£Όμ—ˆλ˜ μ΄μœ λŠ”
06:01
because we found not only data
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 찾은 것이 λ°μ΄ν„°λΏλ§Œμ΄ μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
06:04
but also good and honest people out there in the system
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κ·Έ μ‹œμŠ€ν…œ μ•ˆμ˜ μ°©ν•˜κ³  μ •μ§ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€λ„ μ°Ύμ•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:06
who want to help folks get the care they need
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 감당할 수 μžˆλŠ” μΉ˜λ£ŒλΉ„λ‘œ 치료λ₯Ό 받을 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ λ•κ³ μž ν•˜λŠ”
06:08
at a price they can afford.
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€λ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:11
And it got easier to ask.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ λ‹€κ°€κ°€μ„œ 물어보기 더 μ‰¬μ›Œμ‘Œμ–΄μš”.
06:13
So I'll leave you with some questions.
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생각해 λ³Όλ§Œν•œ μ§ˆλ¬Έλ“€μ„ λͺ‡κ°œ λ“œλ¦΄κ»˜μš”.
06:15
What if we all knew what stuff cost in health care in advance?
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λ§Œμ•½ 미리 λ³‘μ›λΉ„μ˜ μ–΄λ–€ ν•­λͺ©μ΄ μ–Όλ§ˆμΌμ§€ μ•Œκ²Œ 되면 μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
06:19
What if, every time you Googled for an MRI,
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λ§Œμ•½ MRI 사진 촬영이 μ–Όλ§ˆμΌμ§€ ꡬ글에 검색해 λ³Ό λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€
06:23
you got drop-downs telling you where to buy and for how much,
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λ ˆμ΄μ € ν”„λ¦°ν„°κΈ°λ₯Ό μ‚΄ λ•Œ 처럼 μ–΄λ””μ—μ„œ μ–Όλ§ˆμ— μ‚΄ 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€
06:26
the way you do when you Google for a laser printer?
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μ‰½κ²Œ μ•Œ 수 있으면 μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
06:30
What if all of the time and energy and money that's spent hiding prices
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λ§Œμ•½ νž˜λ“€κ²Œ μ§„λ£ŒλΉ„λ₯Ό μˆ¨κΈ°λ €λŠ” μ‹œκ°„κ³Ό μ—λ„ˆμ§€λ₯Ό
06:34
was squeezed out of the system?
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μ‹œμŠ€ν…œμ—μ„œ 없애버리면 μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
06:37
What if each one of us could pick the $19 test every time
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λ§Œμ•½ 우리 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ 522뢈 λŒ€μ‹ 
06:40
instead of the $522 one?
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19뢈인 검사λ₯Ό 항상 κ³ λ₯Ό 수 있게 λœλ‹€λ©΄ μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
06:43
Would our individual bills go down?
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개개인의 λΆ€λ‹΄κΈˆμ΄ λ‚΄λ €κ°ˆκΉŒμš”?
06:45
Our premiums?
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λ˜λŠ” λ³΄ν—˜λ£Œκ°€μš”?
06:46
I don't know, but if you don't ask, you'll never know.
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저도 잘 λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ–΄μš”. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 물어보지 μ•ŠμœΌλ©΄ μ•Œ 수 μ—†μ£ .
06:49
And you might save a ton of money.
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그리고 λˆλ„ 많이 μ•„λ‚„ μˆ˜κ°€ 있겠죠.
06:51
And I've got to think that a lot of us and the system itself
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그리고 μš°λ¦¬λ“€ 쀑 λ§Žμ€ 이듀과 μ œλ„ μžμ²΄κ°€
06:55
would be a lot healthier.
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더 κ±΄κ°•ν•΄μ§ˆ 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
06:57
Thank you.
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κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:58
(Applause)
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