Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala: Let's have a deeper discussion on aid

ヌゴジ・オコンジョイウェアラ:援助対貿易

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2007-08-01 ・ TED


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Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala: Let's have a deeper discussion on aid

ヌゴジ・オコンジョイウェアラ:援助対貿易

42,357 views ・ 2007-08-01

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翻訳: Eriko Kakimoto 校正: Chieko Tamakawa
00:26
It's very, very difficult
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非常に難しいことですが
00:31
to speak at the end of a conference like this,
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会議の最終日の総括をしたいと思います
00:34
because everyone has spoken. Everything has been said.
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全員が話し終わったところで
00:37
So I thought that what may be useful is to remind us
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大切なことは
00:41
of some of the things that have gone on here,
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ここで話されたことを心にとめ
00:44
and then maybe offer some ideas which we can take away,
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持ち帰った考えを提案し
00:47
and take forward and work on.
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さらに それを実行することです
00:52
That's what I'd like to try and do.
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私もそうしようと思います
00:53
We came here saying we want to talk about "Africa: the Next Chapter."
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「アフリカの新たな章」について話しに来ました
00:58
But we are talking about "Africa: the Next Chapter"
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それはなぜかと言うと
01:00
because we are looking at the old and the present chapter -- that we're looking at,
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悪いことに私達は過去や現在ばかりを
01:06
and saying it's not such a good thing.
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見ているからです
01:09
The picture I showed you before, and this picture, of drought, death and disease
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これは私達がいつも目にしている
01:12
is what we usually see.
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干ばつ 死 病気の写真ですが
01:16
What we want to look at is "Africa: the Next Chapter,"
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「アフリカの次章」で目にするのは
01:20
and that's this: a healthy, smiling, beautiful African.
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健康で 笑顔の 美しいアフリカ人です
01:24
And I think it's worth remembering what we've heard
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今日までに聞いたことを
01:27
through the conference right from the first day,
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覚えておいて下さい
01:29
where I heard that all the important statistics have been given --
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これはとても重要な
01:32
about where we are now,
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アフリカは現在どこに位置し
01:35
about how the continent is doing much better.
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どうしたらより良くなるかの統計です
01:39
And the importance of that is that we have a platform to build on.
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アフリカには基盤はあります
01:42
So I'm not going to spend too much time --
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今は詳しく触れずに
01:45
just to show you, refresh your memories
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紹介だけにしておきます
01:48
that we are here for "Africa: the Next Chapter" because for the first time
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実際にアフリカは
01:50
there really is a platform to build on.
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しっかりした基盤があります
01:54
We really do have it going right
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これを良い方に向けるべきです
01:57
that the continent is growing at rates that people had thought would not happen.
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アフリカは急成長していて
02:01
After decades of 2 percent, we are now at 5 percent,
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現在は5%の成長率です
02:04
and it's going to -- projected -- 6 and 7 percent even.
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今後は6%から7%の予想です
02:08
And inflation has come down.
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インフレは落ち着きました
02:12
External debt -- something that I can tell you a long story about
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私が働いた国では
02:14
because I personally worked on one of the biggest debts on the continent --
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巨額の対外債務を抱えていましたが
02:18
has come down dramatically.
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現在は債務も激減し
02:21
You know, as you can see,
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500億ドルから
02:23
from almost 50 billion down to about 12 or 13 billion.
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120から130億ドルになったのです
02:26
Now this is a huge achievement.
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これは大成功です
02:29
You know, we've built up reserves. Why is that important?
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また 準備金の増加も大切です
02:33
It's because it shows off our economies, shows off our currencies
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経済や通貨の強さを示し
02:36
and gives a platform on which people can plan and build, including businesses.
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ビジネスを計画 構築する基盤が得られます
02:41
We've also seen some evidence that all this is making a difference
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変化しつつあることの証拠として
02:45
because private investment flows have increased.
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民間投資が増加しています
02:48
I want to remind you again --
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繰り返しますが
02:50
I know you saw these statistics before --
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統計では 約60億だった投資が
02:53
from almost 6 billion we are now at about 18 billion.
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現在は約180億です
02:56
In 2005, remittances -- I just took one country, Nigeria
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2005年はナイジェリアでも
02:59
skyrocketing -- skyrocketing is too dramatic,
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海外からの送金額が驚くほどの勢いで
03:04
but increasing dramatically.
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急激に増加しつつあります
03:07
And in many other countries this is happening.
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他の国も同じです
03:09
Why is this important? Because it shows confidence.
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この現象の意義は
03:11
People are now confident to bring --
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外国で暮らす人々が安心して
03:14
if your people in the diaspora bring their money back,
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出身国へ送金するなら
03:17
it shows other people that, look,
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他の人々にとって
03:19
there is emerging confidence in your country.
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国への信用が生まれ
03:22
And instead of an outflow, you are now getting a net inflow.
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純流入につながります
03:25
Now, why is all this important, to have to go really fast?
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今重要なことは
03:27
It's important that we build this platform,
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急がず 基盤を構築することです
03:30
that we have the president, Kikwete, and others of our leaders who are saying,
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大統領と他の指導者たちが
03:33
"Look, we must do something different."
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別のことをして
03:35
Because we are confronted with a challenge.
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解決したいのは
03:37
62 percent of our population is below the age of 24.
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国民の62%が24歳以下という事実です
03:44
What does this mean?
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ここで問題になるのは
03:47
This means that we have to focus on how our youth
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若い人々をどのように
03:50
are going to be engaged in productive endeavor in their lives.
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生産活動に就かせるか
03:53
You have to focus on how to create jobs,
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雇用や健康や教育を
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make sure they don't fall into disease, and that they get an education.
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どう保証するかです
03:58
But most of all that they are productively engaged in life,
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生産的な生活のための
04:01
and that they are creating the kind of productive environment
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生産環境を構築することは
04:04
in our countries that will make things happen.
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将来的には可能でしょう
04:08
And to support this, I just recently --
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政府の仕事を離れた私は
04:11
one of the things I've done since leaving government
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世論調査の
04:13
is to start an opinion research organization in Nigeria.
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組織を設立しました
04:15
Most of our countries don't even have any opinion research.
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アフリカの国では 世論調査も
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People don't have voice.
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国民の発言権もなく
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There is no way you can know what people want.
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民意が分かりません
04:23
One of the things we asked them recently was what's their top issue.
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国民に尋ねると
04:25
Like in every other country where this has been done,
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調査した国はどこでも同じで
04:28
jobs is the top issue.
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仕事が最大の問題です
04:32
I want to leave this up here and come back to it.
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これについては後で述べます
04:37
But before I get to this slide, I just wanted to run you through this.
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ここでちょっと考えて欲しいのですが
04:41
And to say that for me, the next stage of building this platform
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構築した基盤が次の段階で
04:44
that now enables us to move forward --
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前進を可能にすることを
04:47
and we mustn't make light of it.
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忘れないで下さい
04:49
It was only 5, 6, 7 years ago
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ほんの5年から7年前には
04:54
we couldn't even talk about the next chapter, because we were in the old chapter.
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アフリカは古い章の中にいたのです
04:58
We were going nowhere.
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進むこともできず
05:01
The economies were not growing.
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経済は停滞していて
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We were having negative per capita growth.
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個人ではマイナス成長でした
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The microeconomic framework and foundation for moving forward
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マクロ経済の枠組も
05:09
was not even there.
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存在しませんでした
05:13
So let's not forget that it's taken a lot to build this,
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ですから私達は
05:16
including all those things that we tried to do in Nigeria that Dele referred to.
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いろいろやりました
05:18
Creating our own program to solve problems, like fighting corruption,
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問題解決プログラムの作成や
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building institutions, stabilizing the micro economy.
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マクロ経済制度の安定化などです
05:30
So now we have this platform we can build on.
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今は基盤があります
05:34
And it brings us to the debate that has been going on here:
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この前提で ここで議論してきたのは
05:38
aid versus private sector, aid versus trade, etc.
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援助対民間部門や援助対貿易などについてです
05:43
And someone stood up to say that one of the frustrating things
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ある人から「議論が単純すぎる」と
05:48
is that it's been a simplistic debate.
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言われたのですが
05:50
And that's not what the debate should be about.
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これを討論してどうするのでしょう
05:55
That's engaging in the wrong debate.
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私達の討論は間違っていました
05:59
The issue here is how do we get a partnership that involves government donors,
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政府や民間部門や
06:01
the private sector and ordinary African people
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生活がかかっている一般の人々と
06:05
taking charge of their own lives?
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どう協力していくのか
06:08
How do we combine all this?
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その組み合わせが今の問題なのです
06:13
To move our continent forward, to do the things that need doing
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アフリカの前進には
06:15
that I talked about -- getting young people employed.
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想像力のある若者を
06:18
Getting the creative juices flowing on this continent,
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雇用する必要があることは
06:21
much of what you have seen here.
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今まで ここで見てきました
06:24
So I'm afraid we've been engaging a little bit in the wrong debate.
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間違った議論から
06:27
We need to bring it back to say,
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戻って 考えるべきは
06:29
what is the combination of all these factors
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私達が望むものを作るのに
06:32
that is going to yield what we want? (Applause)
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全ての要素をどう組み合わせるかです(拍手)
06:36
And I want to tell you something.
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もうひとつ述べたいのは
06:41
For me, the issue about aid --
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私にとっての援助の問題です
06:44
I don't think that Africans need to now go all the way over to the other side
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アフリカは別の方向へ進む必要も
06:48
and feel bad about aid.
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援助が悪いと感じる必要も
06:51
Africa has been giving the other countries aid.
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ありません
06:54
Mo Ibrahim said at a debate we were at that
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ある人に「援助するアフリカになる」と
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he dreams one day when Africa will be giving aid.
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言われたとき 私は
07:01
And I said, "Mo, you're right. We have -- no, but we've already been doing it!
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「すでにそうです」と答えました
07:04
The U.K. and the U.S. could not have been built today without Africa's aid."
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「アフリカの援助なしに 今の英米はありません」
07:10
(Applause)
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(拍手)
07:18
It is all the resources that were taken from Africa,
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アフリカの資源や人間が
07:21
including human, that built these countries today!
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現在の国を構築したのです!
07:25
So when they try to give back, we shouldn't be on the defensive.
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お返しをしてくれるなら 素直に受けましょう
07:31
The issue is not that.
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問題になるのは
07:34
The issue is how are we using what has been given back.
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返されたものの使い方です
07:38
How are we using it?
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私達はどう使っているのか
07:41
Is it being directed effectively?
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直接 効果的でしょうか?
07:46
I want to tell you a little story.
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援助を受けるかではなく
07:49
Why I don't mind if we get aid, but we use it well.
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有効利用できるかが問題だと感じる理由があります
07:58
From 1967 to '70, Nigeria fought a war -- the Nigeria-Biafra war.
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1967年から70年
08:01
And in the middle of that war, I was 14 years old.
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ナイジェリアは戦争中で
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We spent much of our time with my mother cooking.
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私は料理担当でした
08:07
For the army -- my father joined the army as a brigadier -- the Biafran army.
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父はビアフラ軍に入隊し
08:10
We were on the Biafran side.
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准将をしていました
08:12
And we were down to eating one meal a day, running from place to place,
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一日一食で 次から次へ
08:15
but wherever we could help we did.
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場所を移動しました
08:19
At a certain point in time, in 1969, things were really bad.
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1969年のある日 情勢がとても悪化し
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We were down to almost nothing in terms of a meal a day.
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一日一食もできなくなって
08:27
People, children were dying of kwashiorkor.
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人々が死にました
08:29
I'm sure some of you who are not so young
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年輩のみなさんは
08:31
will remember those pictures.
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記憶していると思いますが
08:34
Well, I was in the middle of it.
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私はその中にいました
08:36
In the midst of all this, my mother fell ill with a stomach ailment for two or three days.
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母が数日間 胃の病気になって
08:40
We thought she was going to die.
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亡くなりかけました
08:42
My father was not there.
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父は軍にいて
08:44
He was in the army.
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いません
08:45
So I was the oldest person in the house.
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家族では私が最年長でした
08:49
My sister fell very ill with malaria.
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妹が重いマラリアにかかったとき
08:54
She was three years old and I was 15.
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彼女は3歳 私は15歳でした
08:59
And she had such a high fever. We tried everything.
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妹は高熱を出し
09:01
It didn't look like it was going to work.
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看病しても 治る気配がありません
09:05
Until we heard that 10 kilometers away there was a doctor, who was
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10キロ先の医者なら診察して
09:09
looking at people and giving them meds.
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薬をもらえると聞いて
09:11
Now I put my sister on my back -- burning --
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高熱の妹を背中に背負い
09:15
and I walked 10 kilometers with her strapped on my back.
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10キロ歩きました
09:18
It was really hot. I was very hungry.
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暑さと空腹で とてもつらかったけど
09:23
I was scared because I knew her life depended on my getting to this woman.
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妹の命は私にかかっていました
09:26
We heard there was a woman doctor who was treating people.
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治療のために
09:28
I walked 10 kilometers, putting one foot in front of the other.
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10キロ歩きました
09:31
I got there and I saw huge crowds.
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そこに着くと 大勢が
09:34
Almost a thousand people were there, trying to break down the door.
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診療している教会のドアを
09:37
She was doing this in a church. How was I going to get in?
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こじ開けようとしていたのです
09:43
I had to crawl in between the legs of these people
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私は妹を背負ったまま
09:46
with my sister strapped on my back,
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足の間をはって 窓の方へ
09:50
find a way to a window.
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進むと
09:51
And while they were trying to break down the door,
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ドアをこじ開けずに
09:54
I climbed in through the window, and jumped in.
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窓から中に入りました
09:58
This woman told me it was in the nick of time.
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医者は間一髪だと言いました
10:01
By the time we jumped into that hall, she was barely moving.
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妹は ほとんど動きませんでした
10:05
She gave a shot of her chloroquine -- what I learned was the chloroquine then --
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クロロキンの注射を打たれました
10:09
gave her some -- it must have been a re-hydration --
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水分補給も必要でした
10:12
and some other therapies, and put us in a corner.
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隅に行き数時間すると
10:19
In about two to three hours, she started to move.
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妹の体が動きました
10:24
And then they toweled her down because she started sweating,
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汗をかいていたので
10:27
which was a good sign.
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私は妹の身体を拭いてあげました
10:32
And then my sister woke up.
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すると妹は起き上がったのです
10:36
And about five or six hours later, she said we could go home.
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5‐6時間後 もう平気だと言われ
10:39
I strapped her on my back.
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妹を背負って家に帰りました
10:42
I walked the 10 kilometers back and it was the shortest walk I ever had.
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今度は10キロの道も短く感じました
10:46
I was so happy -- (Applause) -- that my sister was alive!
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妹が回復し(拍手)とても嬉しかった
10:53
Today she's 41 years old, a mother of three,
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現在 妹は母親になり
10:55
and she's a physician saving other lives.
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医者をしています
10:58
Why am I telling that? I'm telling you that because --
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こういうことです
11:00
when it is you or your person involved --
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あなたや家族が苦しんでいるのなら
11:06
you don't care where -- whether it's aid.
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場所は関係ありません
11:11
You don't care what it is! (Applause)
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援助の定義は関係ありません!(拍手)
11:19
You just want the person to be alive!
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その人が生きることだけを望むのが援助です!
11:24
And now let me become less sentimental, and say that saving lives --
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which some of the aid we get does on this continent --
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救われる命があります
11:30
when you save the life of anyone, a farmer, a teacher, a mother,
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そして誰かの命を救うのは
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they are contributing productively into the economy.
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生産性を上げます
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And as an economist, we can also look at that side of the story.
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経済学者として別の側面も見えます
11:44
These are people who are productive agents in the economy.
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生産性向上のため
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So if we save people from HIV/AIDS, if we save them from malaria,
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エイズやマラリアの人を治療すれば
11:50
it means they can form the base of production for our economy.
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経済基盤が形成できます
11:53
And by the same token --
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しかし同様の状況を放置すれば
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as someone said yesterday -- if we don't and they die,
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病人は死亡し
11:59
their children will become a burden on the economy.
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遺児が経済的負担になる
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So even from an economic standpoint,
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社会的で人道的立場でなくとも
12:05
if we leave the social and the humanitarian,
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we need to save lives now.
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命を守ることが必要です
12:10
So that's one of the reasons, from a personal experience, that I say
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そして こうした人的資源を
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let's channel these resources we get into something productive.
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生産的なものに向けようと思うのです
12:19
However, I will also tell you that I'm one of those
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しかし私は これが唯一の答えと
12:23
who doesn't believe that this is the sole answer.
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思ってはいません
12:26
That's why I said the debate has to get more sophisticated.
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高度な議論が必要です
12:29
You know, we have to use it well.
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私達は援助を上手く使う必要があるのです
12:35
What has happened in Europe?
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ヨーロッパで起こったことですが
12:39
Do you all know that Spain -- part of the EU --
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EUの加盟国スペインは
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got 10 billion dollars in aid from the rest of the EU?
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他の加盟国から100億ドルの援助を受け
12:47
Resources that were transferred to them --
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スペインはその資源を
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and were the Spanish ashamed of this? No!
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恥ずかしいとは考えなかった
12:54
The EU transferred 10 billion. Where did they use it?
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どう使ったのでしょう?
12:56
Have you been to southern Spain lately? There are roads everywhere.
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スペイン南部はどこでも道路があり
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Infrastructure everywhere.
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インフラが整っているので
13:04
It is on the back of this that the whole of southern Spain
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南部全体で サービス業が
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has developed into a services economy.
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発展しました
13:09
Did you know that Ireland got 3 billion dollars in aid?
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30億ドルの援助を受け
13:11
Ireland is one of the fastest-growing economies in the European Union today.
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アイルランドは経済を発展させました
13:15
For which many people, even from other parts of the world,
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世界中から多くの人々が
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are going there to find jobs.
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職を求め集まります
13:23
What did they do with the 3 billion dollars in aid?
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援助の使い方は?
13:26
They used it to build an information superhighway,
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情報ハイウエイを構築し
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gain infrastructure that
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情報技術革命に使うための
13:33
enables them to participate in the
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インフラを
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information technology revolution,
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整備したのです
13:37
and to create jobs in their economy.
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雇用も創出されました
13:40
They didn't say, "No, you know, we're not going to take this."
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援助を受けたからです
13:42
Today, the European Union is busy transferring aid.
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今もEUは援助をしています
13:45
My frustration is if they can build infrastructure in Spain --
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もしもスペインで
13:47
which is roads, highways, other things that they can build --
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インフラが構築できるなら
13:51
I say then, why do they refuse to use the same aid
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なぜEUはアフリカを
13:53
to build the same infrastructure in our countries? (Applause)
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援助しないのですか?(拍手)
13:55
When we ask them and tell them what we need,
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私達から要求しなくとも
14:06
one of my worries today is that we have many foundations now.
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援助の財団は多いです
14:08
Now we talk about the World Bank, IMF, and accountability, all that
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世界銀行 IMF などや
14:11
and the EU.
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EUもそうです
14:13
We also have private citizens now who have a lot of money --
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多額のお金を所有している一般市民もいます
14:18
some of them in this audience, with private foundations.
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ここにも おられますね
14:20
And one day, these foundations have so much money,
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私的援助は公的援助を
14:23
they will overtake the official aid that is being given.
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上回るほどです
14:26
But I fear -- and I'm very grateful to all of them
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みなさんがアフリカでしていることに
14:31
for what they are trying to do on the continent --
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感謝していますが
14:33
but I'm also worried. I wake up with a gnawing in my belly
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心配で 胃が痛むこともあります
14:40
because I see a new set of aid entrepreneurs on the continent.
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援助起業家である彼らは
14:43
And they're also going from country to country,
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国から国へ渡り歩き
14:47
and many times trying to find what to do.
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何度も すべきことを見つけようとしています
14:52
But I'm not really sure that their assistance
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しかし私はその支援が
14:55
is also being channeled in the right way.
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正しい方向か全く確信が持てません
14:59
And many of them are not really familiar with the continent.
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大陸は投資先の
15:01
They are just discovering.
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一つに過ぎず
15:04
And many times I don't see Africans working with them.
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アフリカ人と働くことも
15:07
They are just going alone! (Applause)
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していないようです(拍手)
15:10
And many times I get the impression that they are not really even interested
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実際に投資企業家達は
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in hearing from Africans who might know.
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アフリカ人の話を聞こうとさえしません
15:16
They want to visit us,
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私達から現地の事を知り
15:19
see what's happening on the ground and make a decision.
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行動を決定します
15:21
And now I'm maybe being harsh.
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手短にお話します
15:23
But I worry because this money is so important.
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お金は重要です
15:26
Now, who are they accountable to?
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投資家は私達に責任を果たすでしょうか?
15:31
Are we on their boards when they make decisions
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資金の投資先の決定に
15:33
about where to channel money? Are we there?
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私達は参加していますか?
15:36
Will we make the same mistake that we made before?
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私達は過ちを繰り返すのでしょうか?
15:39
Have our presidents and our leaders -- everyone is talking about --
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大統領や指導者達は
15:41
have they ever called these people together and said,
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人々を集めて
15:43
"Look, your foundation and your foundation --
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「あなたがたには資金という
15:46
you have so much money, we are grateful.
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ありがたい基盤がある
15:48
Let's sit down and really tell you where the money should be channeled
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資金をどこに援助すべきか
15:51
and where this aid should go."
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教えよう」と
15:54
Have we done that? The answer is no.
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言った事はありませんでした
15:59
And each one is making their own individual effort.
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バラバラに援助しているから
16:02
And then 10 years from now, billions will again have gone into Africa,
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また数10億が投資されても
16:05
and we would still have the same problems.
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同じ問題を抱えてしまうでしょう
16:09
This is what gives us the hopeless image.
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将来性がなければ
16:12
Our inability to take charge and say to all these people bringing their money,
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人々に資金を持って集まれとは
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"Sit down."
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言えません
16:18
And we don't do it because there are so many of us. We don't coordinate.
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支援者が多すぎて
16:20
We've not called the Bill Gates, and the Soros,
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ビル ゲイツもソロスも呼んでいません
16:26
and everybody else who is helping and say,
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支援者の一部に声をかける時はこういいます
16:31
"Sit down. Let's have a conference with you.
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「ここで会合を開きましょう
16:34
As a continent, here are our priorities.
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優先権は私達にあります
16:37
Here is where we want you to channel this money."
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ここに資金を向けてください」
16:41
Each one should not be an entrepreneur
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起業家になって
16:43
going out and finding what is best.
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海外で投資先を見つける前に
16:46
We're not trying to stop them at all! But to help them help us better.
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私達をよりよく支援して欲しいのです
16:50
And what is disappointing me is that we are not doing this.
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実際はそうではありません
16:53
Ten years from now we will have the same story,
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ですから10年後も
16:55
and we will be repeating the same things.
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同じことを繰り返しているでしょう
17:00
So our problem right now is, how can we leverage
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現在の問題は私達がいかにして
17:05
all this good will that is coming towards our way?
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必要とする好意を活用するか?
17:11
How can we get government to combine properly
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政府がどのように適切に
17:15
with these private foundations, with the international organizations,
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私立財団や国際組織や
17:18
and with our private sector.
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民間部門と協力するのかです
17:21
I firmly believe in that private sector thing too.
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民間部門だけでも
17:25
But it cannot do it alone.
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だめです
17:27
So there might be a few ideas we could think of that could work.
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浮かんだアイディアを
17:30
They said this is about proliferating and sharing ideas.
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普及させ共有しましょう
17:33
So why don't we think of using some of this aid?
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なぜ援助を使用しようとしないのですか?
17:38
Well, why don't we first say to those helping us out,
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インフラが必要だと
17:41
"Don't be shy about infrastructure.
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言わないのでしょうか
17:43
That health that you're working on cannot be sustainable without infrastructure.
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医療にはインフラが不可欠です
17:50
That education will work better
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より効率的な教育には電気や鉄道が
17:55
if we've got electricity and railroads, and so on.
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整備されている方が良いし
17:58
That agriculture will work better if there are railroads to get the goods to market.
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農作物も市場に運べます
18:01
Don't be shy of it.
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遠慮しないで
18:06
Invest some of your resources in that, too."
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アフリカに投資してください
18:09
And then we can see that this is one combination
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民間や国際的な資金を上手く調整し
18:14
of private, international, multilateral money,
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民間部門とアフリカ人が
18:18
private sector and the African that we can put together as a partnership,
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一つになり協力し合うことを
18:21
so that aid can be a facilitator.
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促進させるのが援助です
18:26
That is all aid can be.
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援助するだけでは
18:29
Aid cannot solve our problems, I'm firmly convinced about that.
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問題を解決できませんが
18:31
But it can be catalytic. And if we fail to use it as catalytic,
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そのきっかけとして利用すれば
18:35
we would have failed.
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援助は成功するでしょう
18:40
One of the reasons why China is a bit popular with Africans now --
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アフリカで中国人が
18:43
one of the reasons is not only just that, you know, these people are stupid
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非常識ということ以上に 資源の採取で
18:48
and China is coming to take resources.
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知られつつあるのは
18:51
It's because there's a little more leverage in terms of the Chinese.
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行動力があるからです
18:57
If you tell them, "We need a road here,"
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道路が欲しいと言えば
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they will help you build it.
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中国人が協力します
19:04
They don't shy away from infrastructure.
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遠慮は無用
19:05
In fact, the Chinese minister of finance said to me,
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中国財務相は私に
19:07
when I asked him what are we doing wrong in Nigeria.
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ナイジェリアに必要な
19:09
He said, "There are two things you need only.
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2つのことを教えました
19:12
Infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure and discipline.
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「インフラの整備と規律
19:15
You are undisciplined." (Applause)
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あなた方には規律がありません」(拍手)
19:24
And I repeat it for the continent.
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アフリカ全土もインフラと
19:28
It's the same. We need infrastructure, infrastructure and discipline.
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規律が必要です
19:29
So we can make a catalytic to help us provide some of that.
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それにより援助が提供されます
19:32
Now I realize -- I'm not saying -- health and education --
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また健康な生活と良い教育の
19:36
no, you can also provide that as well.
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両方を提供できます
19:39
But I'm saying it's not either or.
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援助が協力を促進する様子を
19:42
Let's see how aid can be a facilitator in partnership.
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見て下さい
19:44
One idea.
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これがひとつ
19:47
Second thing, for the private sector,
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次に 民間部門は
19:50
people are afraid to take risks on the continent.
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大陸でリスクを冒したがりません
19:54
Why can't some of this aid be used as a kind of guarantee mechanisms,
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なぜ援助の一部を
19:56
to enable people to take risk?
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リスクの保証としないのでしょう?
20:00
(Applause)
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(拍手)
20:01
And finally, because they are both standing at my -- I'm out of time.
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最後に この2つは
20:07
Am I out of time?
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時間がないですか?
20:10
OK, so let me not forget my punchline.
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最後のポイントです
20:13
One of the things I want everybody to collaborate on is
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みんなに協力して欲しいのは
20:16
to support women, to create jobs. (Applause)
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女性の仕事を創設することです(拍手)
20:25
A lot has been said here about women, I don't need to repeat it.
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繰り返しますが
20:27
But there are people -- women -- creating jobs.
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女性の仕事が必要です
20:30
And we know, studies have shown
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2000年に世界銀行が
20:32
that when you put resources in the hand of the woman --
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女性への投資を行った
20:35
in fact, there's an econometric study,
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研究があります
20:37
the World Bank Review, done in 2000, showing that
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これによると
20:40
transfers into the hands of women result
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女性が資本を手にした方が
20:43
in healthier children, more for the household, more for the economy and all that.
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家族も経済も健全化します
20:48
So I'm saying that one of the takeaways from here --
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別に男性を軽んじては
20:51
I'm not saying the men are not important --
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いません
20:52
obviously, if you leave the husbands out, what will they do?
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夫と別れた女性は
20:55
They'll come back home and get disgruntled,
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実家で不満を抱き
20:57
and it will result in difficulties we don't want.
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苦労することになります
21:01
We don't want men beating their wives
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仕事をしない女性を
21:03
because they don't have a job, and so on.
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殴ってはいけません
21:06
But at the margin, we also -- I want to push this,
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最後に強調したいのは
21:09
because the reason is the men automatically --
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男性は職を得る際に
21:13
they get -- not automatically, but they tend to get more support.
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支援が受けやすいのです
21:18
But I want you to realize that resources
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しかし女性が資本を持つと
21:21
in the hands of African women is a powerful tool.
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それは強力なツールとなります
21:25
There are people creating jobs.
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例えば ルワンダの女性は園芸業で
21:29
Beatrice Gakuba has created 200 jobs from her flower business in Rwanda.
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200の雇用を創設し
21:31
We have Ibukun Awosika in Nigeria, with the chair company.
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ナイジェリアの家具の製造会社は
21:36
She wants to expand.
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拡張のため
21:38
She needs another 20 million.
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2000万が必要です
21:40
She will create another 100, 200 more jobs.
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新しい仕事口もできます
21:44
So take away from here is how are you going to put together
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どのようにして 女性の手に資金を
21:48
the resources to put money in the hands of women in the middle
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向けたらいいでしょう
21:50
who are ready --
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彼女達は経営者として事業を拡大し
21:54
business people who want to expand and create more jobs.
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雇用を生み出します
21:57
And lastly, what are you going to do
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最後に あなた方はこれから
22:02
to be part of this partnership of aid, government, private sector
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援助パートナー 政府 民間部門
22:07
and the African as an individual?
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アフリカ人に何をしますか
22:10
Thank you. (Applause)
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ありがとうございました(拍手)
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