Itamar Mann: An app that empowers people to solve their legal problems | TED Fellows

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืชืจื’ื•ื: Limor Sadi ืขืจื™ื›ื”: Ido Dekkers
00:14
[SHAPE YOUR FUTURE]
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[ืขื™ืฆื‘ื• ืืช ืขืชื™ื“ื›ื]
00:17
Iโ€™m going to start by telling you a story about Danielle.
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โ€ซืืคืชื— ื‘ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืขืœ ื“ื ื™ืืœ.โ€ฌ
00:20
When she was a senior in college, Danielle's dad passed away,
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ืื‘ื™ื” ื ืคื˜ืจ ื›ืฉื”ื™ืชื”โ€ฌ โ€ซืกื˜ื•ื“ื ื˜ื™ืช ืฉื ื” ืื—ืจื•ื ื” ื‘ืงื•ืœื’โ€™,โ€ฌ
00:23
which left her mom with no way to support herself.
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โ€ซื•ึฐืึดื™ืžึธื”ึผ ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื”โ€ฌ โ€ซืœื›ืœื›ืœ ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื‘ื›ื•ื—ื•ืช ืขืฆืžื”.
00:26
So Danielle had to drop out of college
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ืื– ื“ื ื™ืืœ ื ืืœืฆื” ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื
00:28
and pick up three jobs as a barista, a bartender and a car washer.
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ื•ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช --โ€ฌ โ€ซื›ื‘ืจื™ืกื˜ื”, ื›ื‘ืจืžื ื™ืช ื•ื‘ืฉื˜ื™ืคืช ืžื›ื•ื ื™ื•ืช.
00:34
Altogether, the three jobs paid Danielle 23,000 dollars per year,
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ื“ื ื™ืืœ ื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื—ื” $23,000 ื‘ืฉื ื”โ€ฌ โ€ซืžืฉืœื•ืฉืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช ื™ื—ื“.
00:38
which wasn't a whole lot,
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ื•ื–ื” ืœื ื”ืจื‘ื”.
00:40
but it allowed her to feed her mom and keep a roof over their head.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื” ืœื”ืื›ื™ืœ ืืช ืึดื™ืžึธื”ึผ ื•ืœืฉืœื ืขืœ ืงื•ืจืช ื’ื’ ืœืžืฉืคื—ื”.
00:43
And for Danielle, that was enough.
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ื•ื–ื” ืกื™ืคืง ืืช ื“ื ื™ืืœ.โ€ฌ
00:46
But early one morning when Danielle was driving home from one of her jobs,
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ืื‘ืœ ื™ื•ื ืื—ื“, ื”ืฉื›ื ื‘ื‘ื•ืงืจ, ื‘ื ืกื™ืขื” ื”ื‘ื™ืชื” ืžื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
00:50
a deer ran in front of her car.
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โ€ซืฆื‘ื™ ืจืฅ ืœื›ื‘ื™ืฉ ื•ืคื’ืข ื‘ืžื›ื•ื ื™ืชื”.โ€ฌ
00:52
She swerved off the road and crashed into a barn.
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โ€ซื”ืžื›ื•ื ื™ืช ืกื˜ืชื” ืžื”ื›ื‘ื™ืฉโ€ฌ โ€ซื•ื”ืชื ื’ืฉื” ื‘ืคืื‘.
00:55
And Danielle doesn't remember exactly what happened next,
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โ€ซื•ื“ื ื™ืืœ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจืชโ€ฌ โ€ซืžื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืงืจื” ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ,
00:58
but when she woke up in a hospital a few hours later,
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โ€ซืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉื”ืชืขื•ืจืจื”โ€ฌ โ€ซื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ
01:01
a doctor told her that she had damaged her brain stem and C1 vertebrae.
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ื ื•ื“ืข ืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืกื•ื‘ืœืช ืžืคื’ื™ืขื” ื‘ื’ื–ืข ื”ืžื•ื— ื•ื‘ื—ื•ืœื™ื™ื” ืกื™-1.
01:06
Now, the good news is that Danielle was going to leave the hospital alive.
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ื”ื‘ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื”ื™ืชื” ืฉื“ื ื™ืืœ ื ืฉืืจื” ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื.
01:10
But the bad news is that Danielle had 55,000 dollars in medical bills.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื‘ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืขื” ื”ื™ืชื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื” ื”ื•ืฆืื•ืช ืจืคื•ืื™ื•ืช ื‘ื’ื•ื‘ื” $55,000.
01:16
Now, Danielle tried so hard for the next two years to try and pay back that debt,
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ืื– ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื, ื“ื ื™ืืœ ืขืฉืชื” ื›ืœ ืžืืžืฅ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉืœื ืืช ื”ื—ื•ื‘ ื”ื–ื”.
01:21
but it was impossible.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืคืฉืจื™.
01:22
It was impossible for Danielle to pay back 55,000 dollars in medical bills,
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ืœื ื”ื™ืชื” ืœื“ื ื™ืืœ ืฉื•ื ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืœืฉืœื ื—ื•ื‘ ืจืคื•ืื™ ืขืœ ืกืš $55,000
01:27
earning just 23,000 dollars per year.
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ื‘ืขื•ื“ ื”ื”ื›ื ืกื” ื”ืฉื ืชื™ืช ืฉืœื” ืขื•ืžื“ืช ืขืœ ืกืš $23,000 ื‘ืœื‘ื“.
01:30
She felt trapped.
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ื”ื™ื ื—ืฉื” ืœื›ื•ื“ื”.
01:32
One freak accident put Danielle
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ืชืื•ื ื” ืคืชืื•ืžื™ืช ืื—ืช
01:34
on the verge of homelessness, hunger, poverty.
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ื”ืฆื™ื‘ื” ืืช ื“ื ื™ืืœ ืขืœ ืกืฃ ืขื•ื ื™, ืจืขื‘ ื•ืื•ื‘ื“ืŸ ืงื•ืจืช ื’ื’.
01:37
And when you're in Danielle's shoes, bankruptcy is a lifeline.
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ื•ื›ืฉืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื” ืฉืœ ื“ื ื™ืืœ -- ื”ืœื™ืš ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ ื”ื•ื ื—ื‘ืœ ื”ืฆืœื”.
01:41
It's a powerful legal tool that allows you to relieve your debt
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ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื‘ื›ืœื™ ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ ืขื•ืฆืžืชื™ ืฉืžืืคืฉืจ ืœืš ืœืฆืืช ืžื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช
01:45
and re-enter the economy.
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ื•ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœื™ื˜ื•ืœ ื—ืœืง ื‘ื›ืœื›ืœื”.
01:47
Medical emergency, a job loss, a divorce.
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ืžืงืจื” ื—ื™ืจื•ื ืจืคื•ืื™, ืื•ื‘ื“ืŸ ืžืงื•ื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื’ื™ืจื•ืฉื™ืŸ.
01:49
These are financial shocks that could happen to any of us.
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ืืœื” ื”ื ื–ืขื–ื•ืขื™ื ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ื™ื ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืงืจื•ืช ืœื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžืื™ืชื ื•.
01:52
And when you're living paycheck to paycheck
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ื•ื›ืฉื—ื™ื™ื ืžืžืฉื›ื•ืจืช ืœืžืฉื›ื•ืจืช ื•ืื™ืŸ ื—ืกื›ื•ื ื•ืช ืžืฉืžืขื•ืชื™ื™ื,
01:54
and don't have a whole lot of savings, like so many Americans,
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ืžืฆื‘ ืฉืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืœืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื,
01:57
a financial shock can ruin your life.
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ื–ืขื–ื•ืข ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ ืื—ื“ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืจื•ืก ืืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื.
01:59
Bankruptcy gives you a second chance.
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ื”ื›ืจื–ืช ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ ื ื•ืชื ืช ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืฉื ื™ื™ื”.
02:02
But when Danielle went to go find a bankruptcy lawyer,
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ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉื“ื ื™ืืœ ื—ื™ืคืฉื” ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ ืฉืžืชืžื—ื” ื‘ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ,
02:04
she, like so many others filing for bankruptcy,
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ื’ื ื”ื™ื, ื›ืžื• ืจื‘ื™ื ืฉืžื’ื™ืฉื™ื ื‘ืงืฉื” ืœืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ,
02:07
learned that it was going to cost her 1,500 dollars.
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ื’ื™ืœืชื” ืฉืฉื™ืจื•ืชื™ื• ืฉืœ ืขื•โ€œื“ ื™ืขืœื• ืœื” $1,500.
02:10
She didn't have that kind of money.
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ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ืกื›ื•ื ื›ืกืฃ ื›ื–ื”.
02:12
I mean, what a cruel irony.
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ืื™ื–ื• ืื™ืจื•ื ื™ื” ืื›ื–ืจื™ืช.
02:13
In America, it costs you 1,500 dollars to tell the court
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ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”, ืขื•ืœื” ืœื›ื $1,500 ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜
02:17
that you have no money.
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ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื›ื ื›ืกืฃ.
02:19
When you walk into a court,
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ื›ืฉื ื›ื ืกื™ื ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜,
02:20
everyone from the judge to the clerk to the forms themselves
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ื›ื•ืœื -- ื”ืฉื•ืคื˜, ื”ืคืงื™ื“ื™ื ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ื˜ืคืกื™ื ืขืฆืžื
02:23
will tell you to go find a lawyer,
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ื™ืฉืœื—ื• ืืชื›ื ืœืฉื›ื•ืจ ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ,
02:25
no matter how little money you have.
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ื’ื ืื ืื™ืŸ ืœื›ื ื›ืกืฃ ืœื›ืš.
02:28
One of the great civil rights injustices in America
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ืื—ืช ื”ืขื•ื•ืœื•ืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื” ื‘ืชื—ื•ื ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืื–ืจื—
02:31
is that we don't have equal rights under the law.
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ื”ื™ื ืฉืื™ืŸ ื‘ืืžืช ืฉื™ื•ื•ื™ื•ืŸ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช.
02:33
What we have is equal rights if you can afford a lawyer.
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ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ ื”ื•ื ืฉื™ื•ื•ื™ื•ืŸ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืจืง ื‘ืชื ืื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืœืžืžืŸ ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ.
02:38
Whether you're evicted from your home in an abusive relationship
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื ืคื•ื ื™ืชื ืžื‘ื™ืชื›ื ื‘ืขืงื‘ื•ืช ืžืขืจื›ืช ื™ื—ืกื™ื ืžืชืขืœืœืช
02:41
or need access to bankruptcy,
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ืื• ืฉืืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ื›ืจื™ื– ืขืœ ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ,
02:43
you have no right to a free lawyer in most civil cases.
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ืœื ืชื”ื™ื• ื–ื›ืื™ื ืœืกื™ื•ืข ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ ื—ื™ื ื ื‘ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืชื‘ื™ืขื•ืช ื”ืื–ืจื—ื™ื•ืช.
ื•ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืžืขื˜ื™ื ื”ื ืขื•ืจื›ื™ ื”ื“ื™ืŸ ืฉืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืžื˜ืขื ื”ืกื™ื•ืข ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ื™
02:47
And because there aren't even close to enough
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02:49
pro bono or legal aid lawyers around,
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ืื• ืฉืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืคืจื• ื‘ื•ื ื•,
02:51
four out of five low-income Americans
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ืืจื‘ืขื” ืžื›ืœ ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื ืฉืžืฉืชื›ืจื™ื ื‘ืจืฃ ื”ืชื—ืชื•ืŸ
02:53
can't get the legal help they need to access their civil legal rights.
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ืื™ื ื ืžืฆืœื™ื—ื™ื ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ืกื™ื•ืข ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืžืฆื•ืช ืืช ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืชื™ื”ื ื”ืื–ืจื—ื™ื•ืช.
02:58
Four years ago, I helped start an organization
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ืœืคื ื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืฉื ื™ื, ืขื–ืจืชื™ ืœื”ืงื™ื ืืจื’ื•ืŸ
03:00
to fight for new civil right in America,
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ืฉื™ื™ืœื—ื ืขืœ ื”ื•ืกืคืช ื–ื›ื•ืช ื—ื“ืฉื” ืœื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืื–ืจื— ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”,
03:03
the right to solve your own legal problem when you can't afford a lawyer.
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ื”ื–ื›ื•ืช ืœืคืชื•ืจ ื‘ืขื™ื™ื” ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ืช ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืขืฆืžืื™ ืื ืื™ื ื›ื ืžืกื•ื’ืœื™ื ืœืžืžืŸ ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ.
03:08
We started with bankruptcy.
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ื”ืชื—ืœื ื• ืขื ื”ืœื™ืš ื”ื›ืจื–ืช ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ.
03:10
Our nonprofit Upsolve has built an app to help people file for bankruptcy
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ื”ืขืžื•ืชื” ืฉืœื ื•, Upsolve, ืคื™ืชื—ื” ื™ื™ืฉื•ืžื•ืŸ ืฉื™ืขื–ื•ืจ ืœืื ืฉื™ื
ืœื”ื’ื™ืฉ ื‘ืงืฉื” ืœืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืขืฆืžืื™ ื•ื‘ื—ื™ื ื.
03:15
on their own for free.
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03:16
People like Danielle.
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ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ืžื• ื“ื ื™ืืœ.
03:18
Our app asks people questions about their finances
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ื”ื™ื™ืฉื•ืžื•ืŸ ืžืฆื™ื’ ืœืžืฉืชืžืฉ ืฉืืœื•ืช ื‘ื ื•ืฉืื™ื ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ื™ื
03:20
in language they can understand
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ื‘ืฉืคื” ืฉื”ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื
03:22
and then uses this information to help generate their forms.
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ื•ืื– ืžืคื™ืง ืขื‘ื•ืจื ื˜ืคืกื™ื ื‘ื”ืชืื ืœืžื™ื“ืข ืฉื”ื–ื™ื ื•.
03:26
Last year, Danielle used Upsolve to file for bankruptcy
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ื‘ืฉื ื” ืฉืขื‘ืจื”, ื“ื ื™ืืœ ื ืขื–ืจื” ื‘--Upsolve ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ืฉ ื‘ืงืฉื” ืœืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ
03:29
on her own for free.
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ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืขืฆืžืื™ ื•ื‘ื—ื™ื ื.
03:32
She got her final letter from the court, relieving all of her medical debt,
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ื”ื™ื ืงื™ื‘ืœื” ืœื™ื“ื™ื” ืืช ื”ื—ืœื˜ืช ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜
ืฉืžืขื ื™ืงื” ืœื” ื”ืคื˜ืจ ืžืœื ืžื”ื—ื•ื‘ ื”ืจืคื•ืื™.
03:36
right after Christmas Day.
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03:37
Today, Danielle has the highest paying job she's ever had
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ื›ื™ื•ื, ื“ื ื™ืืœ ืžืจื•ื•ื™ื—ื” ืžืฉื›ื•ืจืช ืฉื’ื‘ื•ื”ื” ืžืื™-ืคืขื ื‘ืขื‘ืจ
03:40
and she's on track to finish her degree.
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ื•ื”ื™ื ืžืฉืœื™ืžื” ืชื•ืืจ.
03:42
There are so many opportunities to create a more just legal system
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ื™ืฉ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ื™ื•ืช ืœื™ื™ืฆืจ ืžืขืจื›ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ ืฆื•ื“ืงืช ื™ื•ืชืจ
03:47
by empowering people to solve their own legal problems
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ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžืชืŸ ื–ื›ื•ืช ืœืื–ืจื—ื™ื ืœืคืชื•ืจ ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืขืฆืžืื™
03:50
whenever possible.
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ื›ื›ืœ ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจ ืืคืฉืจื™.
03:51
This is especially true in nonadversarial areas of the law,
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ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื‘ืชื—ื•ืžื™ ืžืฉืคื˜ ื‘ืœืชื™ ืœืขื•ืžืชื ื™ื™ื,
ืœืžืฉืœ, ื‘ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื• ื ื›ืกื™ื,
03:55
things like no-asset bankruptcies,
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03:56
uncontested divorces and Social Security disability.
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ื‘ื”ืœื™ื›ื™ ื’ื™ืจื•ืฉื™ืŸ ืฉืžื•ืกื›ืžื™ื ืขืœ ืฉื ื™ ื”ืฆื“ื“ื™ื ื•ื‘ืชื‘ื™ืขื•ืช ื ื›ื•ืช ืžื”ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื— ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™.
04:00
But there are two main barriers that stand in the way.
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ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืฉื ื™ ืžื›ืฉื•ืœื™ื ื‘ื“ืจืš.
04:02
The first is legal complexity.
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ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื”ืžื•ืจื›ื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืœื™ืš ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ื™.
04:04
We've designed our forms in courts around lawyers, not regular people.
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ื”ื˜ืคืกื™ื ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื’ื™ืฉ ืœื‘ื™ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ ืžื™ื•ืขื“ื™ื ืœืขื•ืจื›ื™ ื“ื™ืŸ, ืœื ืœืื ืฉื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื.
04:09
Many legal forms are like modern day literacy tests.
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ื”ื˜ืคืกื™ื ื”ื ื›ืžื• ืžื‘ื—ืŸ ืื•ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืช ืœืฉื•ื ื™ืช.
04:12
When you can't understand them, you can't access your rights.
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ืื ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื, ื’ื ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ืœืžืฆื•ืช ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช.
04:16
Every year, poorly designed forms, courts and processes
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ื›ืœ ืฉื ื”, ื›ืชื•ืฆืื” ืžื˜ืคืกื™ื ืžืกื•ืจื‘ืœื™ื, ืžื‘ืชื™ ืžืฉืคื˜ ื•ืžื”ืœื™ื›ื™ื ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื™ื
04:20
deny millions of Americans their life, their liberty and their property.
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ื ืžื ืขืช ืžืžื™ืœื™ื•ื ื™ ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื ื”ื–ื›ื•ืช ืœื—ื™ื™ื, ืœื—ื™ืจื•ืชื ื•ืœืจื›ื•ืฉื.
04:25
Legal complexity is a civil rights injustice.
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ืกืจื‘ื•ืœ ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื•ืœื” ืฉืคื•ื’ืขืช ื‘ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืื–ืจื—.
04:28
To start solving this problem,
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืคืชื•ืจ ื‘ืขื™ื™ื” ื–ื•
04:30
we need to require basic user testing in courts
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ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœื“ืจื•ืฉ ื‘ื“ื™ืงื•ืช ืฉึฐืžึดื™ืฉื•ึผืช ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื‘ืชื™ ืžืฉืคื˜
04:32
and reviser assumption in areas of poverty law
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ื•ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื”ื”ืฉืขืจื” ื”ืงื™ื™ืžืช ื‘ืชื™ืงื™ ืขื•ื ื™
04:36
that everybody will be able to afford a lawyer.
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ืฉืœืคื™ื” ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžืกื•ื’ืœ ืœืžืžืŸ ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ.
04:38
A second barrier is a closed culture.
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ืžื›ืฉื•ืœ ืฉื ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ืกื’ื•ืจื”.
04:41
We've been met with pushback from some folks
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ื ืชืงืœื ื• ื‘ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื•ืช ืžืฆื™ื“ื ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื
04:43
who believe that you need to go see a lawyer
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ืฉืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ืฉื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœืฉื›ื•ืจ ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ
04:45
no matter what legal problem you have.
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ื‘ืœื™ ืงืฉืจ ืœืžื”ื•ืชื” ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ืขื™ื™ื” ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ืช.
04:47
Imagine you had to go see a doctor
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ืชืืจื• ืœืขืฆืžื›ื ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื’ืฉืช ืœืจื•ืคื
04:49
to cure a plain old headache
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื›ืื‘ ืจืืฉ
04:51
rather than being able to buy Advil at your local pharmacy.
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ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืงื ื•ืช ืื“ื•ื•ื™ืœ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืจืงื—ืช ื”ืฉื›ื•ื ืชื™.
04:55
Telling a person who is poor to go find a lawyer
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ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœืื“ื ืขื ื™ ืœืžืฆื•ื ืœืขืฆืžื• ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ
04:58
when they obviously can't afford one
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ื›ืฉื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื›ืœ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืžืžืŸ ื›ื–ื”
05:01
is out of touch,
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ื–ืืช ื”ืชื ื”ืœื•ืช ืžื ื•ืชืงืช ืžื”ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช,
05:02
iIntimidating, unfair and wrong.
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ืžืื™ื™ืžืช, ื—ืกืจืช ื”ื’ื™ื ื•ืช ื•ืœื ืจืื•ื™ื”.
05:05
It's also a racial injustice.
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ื•ื’ื ืžื”ื•ื•ื” ื’ื–ืขื ื•ืช.
05:07
Black and brown communities disproportionately cannot afford
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ืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ืฉื—ื•ืจื•ืช ื•ื—ื•ืžื•ืช, ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœื ืคืจื•ืคื•ืจืฆื™ื•ื ืœื™ ืœืฉืืจ ื”ืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื”,
05:10
the legal fees they need to access their civil legal rights.
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ืื™ื ืŸ ืžืกื•ื’ืœื•ืช ืœืžืžืŸ ื”ื•ืฆืื•ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื•ืช ืฉื›ืจื•ื›ื•ืช ื‘ืžื™ืฆื•ื™ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืชื™ื”ืŸ ื”ืื–ืจื—ื™ื•ืช.
05:13
Many legal fees are like modern day poll taxes.
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ื”ื•ืฆืื•ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื•ืช ืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ืŸ ื›ืžื• ืžืก ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™.
05:17
When you can't afford to pay the fees, you can access your rights.
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ื›ืฉืื™ืŸ ื‘ืืคืฉืจื•ืชื›ื ืœืฉืœื ืืช ื”ืžืก, ืœื ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืžืฆื•ืช ืืช ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืชื™ื›ื.
05:21
And we have a decision to make
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ื•ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœื”ื—ืœื™ื˜
05:22
about how open and equal we want our system of justice to be.
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ืœื’ื‘ื™ ืžื™ื“ืช ื”ื ื’ื™ืฉื•ืช ื•ื”ืฉื™ื•ื•ื™ื•ื ื™ื•ืช ืฉืื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ ืฉืœื ื•.
05:27
The only way we're ever going to have equal rights in America
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ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื” ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืฉื™ื•ื•ื™ื•ืŸ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”
05:30
is if we get rid of the modern day literacy tests
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ืขื•ื‘ืจืช ื“ืจืš ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ืœื ืฉืœ ืžื‘ื—ื ื™ ื”ืื•ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืช ื”ืœืฉื•ื ื™ืช ื•ืžึดืกึตื™ ื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช
05:33
and poll taxes that dominate our courts and legal system.
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ืฉืฉื•ืœื˜ื™ื ื‘ื‘ืชื™ ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ ื•ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ืฆื“ืง ืฉืœื ื•.
05:37
We need a new civil right in America,
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ืื ื—ื ื• ื–ืงื•ืงื™ื ืœื–ื›ื•ืช ืื–ืจื—ื™ืช ื—ื“ืฉื” ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”,
05:39
the right to solve your own legal problem when you can't afford a lawyer.
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ื”ื–ื›ื•ืช ืœืคืชื•ืจ ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืขืฆืžืื™ ื›ืฉืื™ืŸ ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืœืžืžืŸ ืขื•ืจืš ื“ื™ืŸ.
05:43
Because in America, our rights are supposed to be inalienable,
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ื›ื™ ื‘ืืžืจื™ืงื”, ื”ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ืืžื•ืจื•ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืœืชื™ ื ื™ืชื ื•ืช ืœืขืจืขื•ืจ,
ื–ื›ื•ืชื™ื ื• ืœื”ื’ื ื” ืืžื•ืจื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื™ื•ื•ื™ื•ื ื™ืช ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ื”ื—ื•ืง
05:48
our protections are supposed to be equal,
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05:50
and we all deserve a chance at life,
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ื•ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืจืื•ื™ื™ื ืœื–ื›ื•ืช ืœื—ื™ื™ื,
05:53
liberty and the pursuit of happiness,
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ืœื—ื™ืจื•ืช ื•ืœื—ื™ืคื•ืฉ ืื—ืจ ื”ืื•ืฉืจ,
05:56
whether or not we can afford the legal fees.
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื ืื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืจืฉื•ืช ืœืขืฆืžื ื• ืœืฉืœื ืขืœ ื”ื•ืฆืื•ืช ืžืฉืคื˜ื™ื•ืช, ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื ืœืื•
05:59
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื”.
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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