Jehane Noujaim: TEDPrize wish: Unite the world on Pangea Day

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譯者: Tsung-Wen Pu 審譯者: Joyce Chou
00:25
I can't help but this wish:
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我忍不住想請各位回想小時候
00:26
to think about when you're a little kid, and all your friends ask you,
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朋友問說,如果有精靈告訴你
00:31
"If a genie could give you one wish in the world,
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你能有個願望,那你想要什麼?
00:33
what would it be?"
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00:35
And I always answered,
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我總是回說: "我希望知道...
00:36
"Well, I'd want the wish
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00:37
to have the wisdom to know exactly what to wish for."
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希望知道自己究竟想許什麼願望"
00:41
Well, then you'd be screwed,
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但知道想許的願望也沒用,因為一旦許了這個願望
00:43
because you'd know what to wish for, and you'd use up your wish,
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我也就用掉了唯一的願望
00:46
and now, since we only have one wish -- unlike last year they had three wishes --
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既然我們只有一個願望,不像去年還有三個
我就不許那個願望了
00:50
I'm not going to wish for that.
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00:51
So let's get to what I would like, which is world peace.
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那我就明講了,我希望世界和平
00:56
And I know what you're thinking:
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各位想什麼我一清二楚
00:58
You're thinking, "The poor girl up there,
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各位在想,台上那可憐的女孩
01:00
she thinks she's at a beauty pageant.
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她以為自己在選美比賽
01:02
She's not. She's at the TED Prize."
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只不過是領個TED獎
01:04
(Laughter)
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但我覺得這願望不無道理
01:07
But I really do think it makes sense.
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01:10
And I think that the first step to world peace
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世界和平首先要讓人與人面對面
01:12
is for people to meet each other.
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01:14
I've met a lot of different people over the years,
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這幾年我接觸形形色色的人
01:17
and I've filmed some of them,
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拍攝他們的故事
01:18
from a dotcom executive in New York who wanted to take over the world,
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有紐約網路公司執行長,想要接管世界
01:23
to a military press officer in Qatar,
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有卡達的軍方發言人
01:26
who would rather not take over the world.
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反而不想這麼做
01:28
If you've seen the film "Control Room" that was sent out,
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如果各位看過電影"控制室"
01:31
you'd understand a little bit why.
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你們就知道為什麼,謝謝
01:32
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
01:34
Thank you.
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哇!有些人真的看過
01:35
Wow! Some of you watched it. That's great. That's great.
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太好了
01:38
So basically what I'd like to talk about today
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今天我想和各位分享
01:43
is a way for people to travel,
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人們該如何利用旅行
01:46
to meet people in a different way than --
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用不同的方式接觸人群
01:50
because you can't travel all over the world at the same time.
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因為各位無法短時間內環遊世界
01:53
And a long time ago -- well, about 40 years ago --
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大約40年以前
01:58
my mom had an exchange student.
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我媽接待一位交換學生
02:01
And I'm going to show you slides of the exchange student.
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投影片上就是哪位學生
02:04
This is Donna.
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這是唐娜
02:05
This is Donna at the Statue of Liberty.
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唐娜和自由女神像拍照
02:09
This is my mother and aunt teaching Donna how to ride a bike.
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我媽和阿姨教唐娜騎腳踏車
02:13
This is Donna eating ice cream.
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唐娜吃冰淇淋
02:16
And this is Donna teaching my aunt how to do a Filipino dance.
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唐娜教阿姨跳菲律賓舞
02:22
I really think as the world is getting smaller,
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現在我深深覺得世界越來越小
02:25
it becomes more and more important
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學習彼此的舞步變得越來越重要
02:26
that we learn each other's dance moves,
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02:28
that we meet each other, we get to know each other,
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我們接觸彼此,了解他人
找出跨越國界的方法
02:31
we are able to figure out a way to cross borders,
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02:34
to understand each other, to understand people's hopes and dreams,
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了解他人的希望與夢想
02:37
what makes them laugh and cry.
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了解他們喜悅和悲傷的原因
02:39
And I know that we can't all do exchange programs,
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當然不是每個人都可以當交換學生
02:42
and I can't force everybody to travel;
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我也沒辦法要求各位去旅行
02:44
I've already talked about that to Chris and Amy,
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我和克里斯、愛咪談過這點
02:46
and they said that there's a problem with this:
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他們說這有問題
02:48
You can't force people, free will.
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你無法干涉他人自由意志,這點我完全同意
02:50
And I totally support that, so we're not forcing people to travel.
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所以我們無法要求他人一定要旅行
02:53
But I'd like to talk about another way to travel
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但我想談談另一種旅行
不用搭船或飛機
02:56
that doesn't require a ship or an airplane,
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02:59
and just requires a movie camera, a projector and a screen.
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只要透過攝影機、投影機、螢幕
03:04
And that's what I'm going to talk to you about today.
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那就是我今天要和各位分享的
03:08
I was asked that I speak a little bit about where I personally come from,
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有人要我談談
我的出身
03:13
and Cameron, I don't know how you managed to get out of that one,
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卡麥隆,不知道你同不同意
03:16
but I think that building bridges is important to me
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但我想,從自身聊起很重要
03:21
because of where I come from.
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因為那是我的家鄉
03:23
I'm the daughter of an American mother
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我的母親是美國人
03:26
and an Egyptian-Lebanese-Syrian father.
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父親是埃及、黎巴嫩、敘利亞人
03:29
So I'm the living product of two cultures coming together.
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我天生就是兩種文化人
03:33
No pun intended.
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03:34
(Laughter)
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沒有故意押韻
別人也叫我
03:36
And I've also been called,
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有個波斯名字的埃黎敘美國人
03:37
as an Egyptian-Lebanese-Syrian American with a Persian name,
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03:40
the "Middle East Peace Crisis."
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儼然是中東和平危機的縮影
03:42
So maybe me starting to take pictures was some kind of way
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或許拍照是種開始的方法
03:46
to bring both sides of my family together --
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可以拉近兩個家族的距離
03:50
a way to take the worlds with me, a way to tell stories visually.
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將不同的世界帶在身邊,用影像說故事
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It all kind of started that way,
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我就是用這種方法開始
03:57
but I think that I really realized the power of the image
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但我真的了解影像力量的時候
04:00
when I first went to the garbage-collecting village
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是我第一次去埃及的撿破爛村
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in Egypt, when I was about 16.
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那時16歲,是媽媽帶我去的
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My mother took me there.
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04:08
She's somebody who believes strongly in community service,
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她很相信社區服務的力量
04:11
and decided that this was something that I needed to do.
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也要我跟著一起做
到了那裡,我遇到一些很棒的婦人
04:14
And so I went there and I met some amazing women there.
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04:18
There was a center there,
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那裡有個社區中心
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where they were teaching people how to read and write,
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她們在那裡教人閱讀、寫字
04:24
and get vaccinations against the many diseases
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接種預防許多疾病的疫苗
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you can get from sorting through garbage.
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撿垃圾帶來的疾病
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And I began teaching there.
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我先開始在那裡當老師
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I taught English, and I met some incredible women there.
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教英文,遇到一些令人敬佩的婦女
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I met people that live seven people to a room,
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有些人是 7 個人擠一間房間
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barely can afford their evening meal,
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他們幾乎負擔不起晚餐
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yet lived with this strength of spirit and sense of humor
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但活得很有活力,生活充滿幽默感
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and just incredible qualities.
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這些特質太了不起了
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I got drawn into this community and I began to take pictures there.
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我受到這個社區的吸引,便開始拍照
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I took pictures of weddings and older family members --
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照了幾張婚禮和家族長者的照片
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things that they wanted memories of.
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讓他們可以留下美好回憶
05:00
About two years after I started taking these pictures,
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開始拍照後的兩年
05:03
the UN Conference on Population and Development
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開羅舉辦的聯合國人口與發展大會
05:08
asked me to show them at the conference.
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邀請我在大會中播放這些照片
05:10
So I was 18; I was very excited.
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那時才18歲,感覺很興奮
05:13
It was my first exhibit of photographs and they were all put up there,
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那是第一次公開展示我拍的所有照片
05:19
and after about two days, they all came down except for three.
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兩天後,只剩下三張還留著
05:25
People were very upset,
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在場的人都很生氣、很憤怒
05:27
very angry that I was showing these dirty sides of Cairo,
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因為我呈現了開羅污穢的一面
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and why didn't I cut the dead donkey out of the frame?
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他們質疑為何我沒有把驢子的屍體修掉
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And as I sat there, I got very depressed.
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當時我坐在那兒,感到很沮喪
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I looked at this big empty wall with three lonely photographs
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看著空盪盪的一面牆
三張零散的照片
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that were, you know, very pretty photographs
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原本很美的照片,卻被我搞砸了
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and I was like, "I failed at this."
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05:49
But I was looking at this intense emotion and intense feeling
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但我在尋找這種強烈的情感、情緒
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that had come out of people just seeing these photographs.
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看到這些照片讓人們自然流露的那種情緒
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Here I was, this 18-year-old pipsqueak that nobody listened to,
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當時我不過是個沒人在乎的18歲小毛頭
06:01
and all of a sudden, I put these photographs on the wall,
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突然間把照片秀出來
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and there were arguments, and they had to be taken down.
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讓他們產生爭執,照片被迫撤下來
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And I saw the power of the image, and it was incredible.
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當時我看到的是影像的力量
實在太不可思議
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And I think the most important reaction that I saw there was actually from people
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當時看到最重要的反應是
有人從未親自去過那個垃圾回收村
06:14
that would never have gone to the garbage village themselves,
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在那兒不可能會有人性光輝
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that would never have seen that the human spirit could thrive
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06:19
in such difficult circumstances.
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尤其在那種惡劣的情況下
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And I think it was at that point
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就在那時,我決定了
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that I decided I wanted to use photography and film
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我要利用攝影和電影的力量
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to somehow bridge gaps, to bridge cultures,
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填補缺口,媒介文化,拉近距離,跨越國界
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bring people together, cross borders.
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那就是我的起點
06:35
And so that's what really kind of started me off.
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06:39
Did a stint at MTV, made a film called "Startup.com,"
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後來在MTV工作,作了部Startup.com的影片
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and I've done a couple of music films.
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2000年時,製作些音樂影片
06:47
But in 2003, when the war in Iraq was about to start,
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但2003年,伊拉克戰爭一觸即發
感覺很不真實
06:54
it was a very surreal feeling for me,
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06:56
because before the war started,
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因為戰爭開打前,正進行著媒體戰
06:58
there was kind of this media war that was going on.
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07:01
And I was watching television in New York,
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我正好在紐約看電視報導
07:03
and there seemed to be just one point of view that was coming across,
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媒體似乎只有一方觀點
觀點只從...
07:06
and the coverage went from the US State Department
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只報導美國務院到駐紮部隊的消息
07:11
to embedded troops.
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還有人民的觀感
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And what was coming across on the news
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07:16
was that there was going to be this clean war and precision bombings,
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新聞報導說這會是個乾淨的戰爭,轟炸絕對精準
07:21
and the Iraqis would be greeting the Americans as liberators,
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伊拉克人會夾道歡迎,將美軍視為自由解放者一般
07:24
and throwing flowers at their feet in the streets of Baghdad.
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在巴格達街上,灑滿美麗的花朵
07:28
And I knew that there was a completely other story
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但我知道在我父母所處的中東
07:30
that was taking place in the Middle East, where my parents were.
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卻有著不同的故事版本
07:34
I knew that there was a completely other story being told,
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在中東,故事不是這樣寫的
07:37
and I was thinking, "How are people supposed to communicate with each other
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所以我就思考,究竟人應該怎樣交流
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when they're getting completely different messages,
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尤其當兩方接收的訊息截然不同
彼此也不知道對方接收何種訊息
07:43
and nobody knows what the other's being told?
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07:45
How are people supposed to have any kind of common understanding
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人們究竟該如何建立起共識
07:48
or know how to move together into the future?
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如何共同迎向未來?
07:50
So I knew that I had to go there.
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所以我覺得我該前往中東
07:53
I just wanted to be in the center.
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我就是想深入事件發生的核心
07:55
I had no plan. I had no funding.
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我沒有計畫,沒有資金
07:57
I didn't even have a camera at the time -- I had somebody bring it there,
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那時連攝影機也沒有
還是有人幫我帶攝影機去的
08:02
because I wanted to get access to Al Jazeera,
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因為我想和半島電視台搭上線
08:05
George Bush's favorite channel,
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小布希最愛的頻道
08:07
and a place which I was very curious about because it's disliked
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一個我很好奇的地方
因為許多阿拉伯國家都不喜歡這個電視台
08:12
by many governments across the Arab world,
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08:14
and also called the mouthpiece of Osama Bin Laden
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它有個綽號叫賓拉登的發言人
08:18
by some people in the US government.
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這是有些美國政府官員取的
08:20
So I was thinking, this station that's hated by so many people
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各位也知道很多人討厭這個電視台
08:24
has to be doing something right.
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我想我必須做些對的事情
08:26
I've got to go see what this is all about.
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我得要親自看看裡面是什麼樣子
08:29
And I also wanted to go see Central Command,
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我也想看看中央司令部的情形
08:32
which was 10 minutes away.
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離電視台只有10分鐘路程
08:33
And that way, I could get access to how this news was being created --
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我就可以知道他們製作新聞的方法
08:39
on the Arab side, reaching the Arab world,
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如何以阿拉伯角度製作、散佈新聞
08:41
and on the US and Western side, reaching the US.
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如何以美國、西方角度製作、散佈新聞
08:44
And when I went there and sat there,
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到了那裡,坐下來之後
08:45
and met these people that were in the center of it,
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見到在事件中心的人們
08:48
and sat with these characters,
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和這些人物並坐著
08:52
I met some surprising, very complex people.
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遇到一些令人驚奇、想法細膩的人
08:56
And I'd like to share with you a little bit of that experience
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我想和各位分享點那次經驗
09:01
of when you sit with somebody
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坐在那邊,拍攝他們,傾聽他們
09:02
and you film them, and you listen to them,
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09:04
and you allow them more than a five-second sound bite.
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給他們不過五秒時間
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The amazing complexity of people emerges.
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就會發現這些不可思議、心思縝密的人的魅力
09:16
Samir Khader: Business as usual.
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薩米爾.卡德:一如往常
09:19
Iraq, and then Iraq, and then Iraq.
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伊拉克,伊拉克,還是伊拉克
你可不要說出去,要是福斯電視給我份工作,我就接
09:25
But between us, if I'm offered a job with Fox, I'll take it.
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09:35
To change the Arab nightmare into the American dream.
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把阿拉伯惡夢變成美國夢
我還擁有那種夢想
09:45
I still have that dream.
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也許永遠不可能達成
09:48
Maybe I will never be able to do it,
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09:51
but I have plans for my children.
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但我幫小孩計畫好了
09:55
When they finish high school,
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高中畢業,就送他們到美國讀書
09:56
I will send them to America to study there.
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09:58
I will pay for their study.
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我會付他們的學費
10:01
And they will stay there.
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他們就待在那裡
10:10
Josh Rushing: The night they showed the POWs and the dead soldiers --
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喬許.羅辛:他們播戰俘和陣亡的士兵時
10:14
Al Jazeera showed them --
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半島電視台的新聞畫面很直接
10:15
it was powerful, because America doesn't show those kinds of images.
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那衝擊很大,因為美國看不到這種畫面
10:18
Most of the news in America won't show really gory images
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美國大部分的新聞不會播血腥畫面
美國大兵身穿軍服,倒臥在地
10:21
and this showed American soldiers in uniform, strewn about a floor,
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10:24
a cold tile floor.
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冷冰冰的磁磚地板
10:25
And it was revolting.
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太噁心了
10:28
It was absolutely revolting.
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真的很噁心
10:29
It made me sick at my stomach.
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讓我很反胃
10:31
And then what hit me was, the night before,
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但我驚訝的是在前一晚
10:34
there had been some kind of bombing in Basra,
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巴斯拉發生幾起爆炸事件
半島電視台播放的現場畫面
10:38
and Al Jazeera had shown images of the people.
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10:43
And they were equally, if not more, horrifying -- the images were.
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就和陣亡的美國士兵畫面一樣駭人
10:47
And I remember having seen it in the Al Jazeera office,
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我記得是在半島電視台辦公室看的
10:50
and thought to myself, "Wow, that's gross.
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心想那真是噁心
10:53
That's bad."
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真差勁
10:55
And then going away, and probably eating dinner or something.
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然後就走了去吃頓晚餐什麼的
10:58
And it didn't affect me as much.
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10:59
So, the impact that had on me --
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我沒受什麼影響
11:02
me realizing that I just saw people on the other side,
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它給我的影響是我了解到
我只不過看到另一方的人民
11:06
and those people in the Al Jazeera office
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而半島電視台辦公室的那些人
11:08
must have felt the way I was feeling that night,
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內心感受一定跟我那晚一樣
11:11
and it upset me on a profound level
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真的感覺很討厭
11:14
that I wasn't as bothered as much the night before.
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但巴斯拉的新聞沒怎樣影響我
11:18
It makes me hate war.
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它讓我痛恨戰爭
11:20
But it doesn't make me believe that we're in a world
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但我不相信這世界可以沒有戰爭
11:23
that can live without war yet.
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11:24
Jehane Noujaim: I was overwhelmed by the response of the film.
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耶涵.妮詹姆:人們對影片的反應讓我印象深刻
11:27
We didn't know whether it would be able to get out there.
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我們不知道能不能離開那裡
11:30
We had no funding for it.
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我們沒有資金拍片
11:31
We were incredibly lucky that it got picked up.
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但很幸運可以拍出來
11:36
And when we showed the film
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讓美國和阿拉伯世界看這部片時
11:38
in both the United States and the Arab world,
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11:41
we had such incredible reactions.
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觀察到如此難以置信的反應
11:43
It was amazing to see how people were moved by this film.
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看到人們受到影片的感動,太令人驚訝了
11:46
In the Arab world --
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在阿拉伯世界,感動人的不是影片
11:48
and it's not really by the film, it's by the characters --
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而是影片中的人物
11:51
I mean, Josh Rushing was this incredibly complex person
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喬許.羅辛真是個心思細膩的人
11:55
who was thinking about things.
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他真的有在思考
11:57
And when I showed the film in the Middle East,
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在中東播這部影片的時候
11:59
people wanted to meet Josh.
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有人說他們想見見喬許
12:02
He kind of redefined us as an American population.
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喬許似乎重新定義了美國人這個族群
12:05
People started to ask me, "Where is this guy now?"
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有人問我,喬許現在在哪裡?
12:10
Al Jazeera offered him a job.
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半島電視台給他一份工作
12:12
(Laughter)
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12:14
And Samir, on the other hand,
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另外還有薩米爾
12:16
was also quite an interesting character for the Arab world to see,
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他也是阿拉伯世界很有興趣的人物
12:19
because it brought out the complexities of this love-hate relationship
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因為他的說法透露了阿拉伯世界和西方世界
12:23
that the Arab world has with the West.
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雙方愛恨情仇的複雜關係
12:26
In the United States, I was blown away by the motivations,
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在美國,美國人的反應讓我印象深刻
12:31
the positive motivations of the American people
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美國人的正向動機
12:34
when they'd see this film.
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在他們看了影片後出現
12:36
You know, we're criticized abroad
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在美國以外的土地上,我們飽受抨擊
12:38
for believing we're the saviors of the world in some way,
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自以為是世界的救星
12:41
but the flip side of it is that, actually,
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但相反的
12:44
when people do see what is happening abroad
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當人們看到國外發生的事情
12:47
and people's reactions to some of our policy abroad,
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對美國外交政策的感受
12:50
we feel this power, that we need to --
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我們感受到這種力量
12:52
we feel like we have to get the power to change things.
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就好像我們得要獲得這種力量,改變現狀
12:54
And I saw this with audiences.
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我從觀眾反應裡觀察到這一點
12:56
This woman came up to me after the screening and said,
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一位女士看完影片後告訴我
13:00
"You know, I know this is crazy.
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13:01
I saw the bombs being loaded on the planes,
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你知道嗎?這聽起很瘋狂,我看著飛機裝上炸彈
13:03
I saw the military going out to war,
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看著軍隊出兵打仗
13:05
but you don't understand people's anger towards us
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但你不知道當地人對我們的憤怒
13:08
until you see the people in the hospitals and the victims of the war,
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直到看到醫院的傷患和戰爭的犧牲者
13:12
and how do we get out of this bubble?
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我們該怎樣遠離這樣的困境?
13:14
How do we understand what the other person is thinking?"
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該怎樣了解他人的想法?
13:19
Now, I don't know whether a film can change the world.
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我不知道影片能否改變世界
13:23
But I know the power of it,
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但它開啟了--我知道那種力量
13:25
I know that it starts people thinking about how to change the world.
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我知道它讓人們開始思考該如何改變世界
13:29
Now, I'm not a philosopher,
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我不是哲學家
13:31
so I feel like I shouldn't go into great depth on this,
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所以不想講得太深奧,就看看影片吧
13:34
but let film speak for itself and take you to this other world.
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讓影片帶各位進入另一個世界
13:38
Because I believe that film has the ability to take you across borders,
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因為我相信影片可以帶領各位跨越國界
13:42
I'd like you to just sit back and experience for a couple of minutes
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希望各位好好體驗接下來的幾分鐘
13:46
being taken into another world.
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前往另一個世界
13:48
And these couple clips take you inside of two of the most difficult conflicts
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觀賞這幾段短片
內容探討我們今日面對最嚴峻的衝突
13:53
that we're faced with today.
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13:56
[The last 48 hours of two Palestinian suicide bombers.]
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14:01
[Paradise Now]
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14:04
[Man: As long as there is injustice, someone must make a sacrifice!]
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一旦有不公義出現,總要有人犧牲
14:08
[Woman: That's no sacrifice, that's revenge!]
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那不算犧牲,而是復仇
殺了人,不就跟那些佔領者沒兩樣
14:11
[If you kill, there's no difference between victim and occupier.]
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14:16
[Man: If we had airplanes, we wouldn't need martyrs, that's the difference.]
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如果我們有飛機,就不需要烈士,那就有差別
14:22
[Woman: The difference is that the Israeli military is still stronger.]
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差別在於以色列軍隊還是很強大
14:27
[Man: Then let us be equal in death.]
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至少他們死的人數不能比我們少
14:30
[We still have Paradise.]
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我們還有天堂
14:32
[Woman: There is no Paradise! It only exists in your head!]
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天堂只在你的腦袋裡
14:35
[Man: God forbid!]
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童言無忌,童言無忌
14:37
[May God forgive you.]
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願真神寬恕妳
14:40
[If you were not Abu Azzam's daughter ...]
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要不是妳是阿布.阿贊姆的女兒...
14:44
[Anyway, I'd rather have Paradise in my head than live in this hell!]
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算了,我寧願腦中有天堂,也不要活在地獄了
14:48
[In this life, we're dead anyway.]
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反正我們這輩子已是行屍走肉
14:51
[One only chooses bitterness when the alternative is even bitterer.]
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我不入地獄,誰入地獄
14:57
[Woman: And what about us? The ones who remain?]
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那我們呢?還活下來的人?
15:00
[Will we win that way?]
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那麼做能贏嗎?
15:04
[Don't you see what you're doing is destroying us?]
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你不知道這樣做會毀了我們嗎?
15:08
[And that you give Israel an alibi to carry on?]
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你給了以色列藉口,讓他們就繼續為所欲為?
15:12
[Man: So with no alibi, Israel will stop?]
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就算他們沒了藉口,難道就此罷休?
15:15
[Woman: Perhaps. We have to turn it into a moral war.]
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說不準,我們可以轉成道德戰
15:19
[Man: How, if Israel has no morals?]
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怎麼做,如果以色列沒有道德?
15:22
[Woman: Be careful!]
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小心
15:26
[And the real people building peace through non-violence]
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15:33
[Encounter Point]
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15:36
Video: (Ambulance siren) [Tel Aviv, Israel 1996]
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我太太雅蕾特叫住我說道
15:42
[Tzvika: My wife Ayelet called me and said, ]
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15:44
["There was a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv."]
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特拉維夫發生自殺炸彈攻擊
15:47
[Ayelet: What do you know about the casualties?]
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你知道死傷狀況嗎?
15:50
[Tzvika off-screen: We're looking for three girls.]
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我們在找我們三個女兒
15:53
[We have no information.]
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我們沒收到消息
15:54
[Ayelet: One is wounded here, but we haven't heard from the other three.]
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有一個在這裡被發現受傷,但其他三個不知下落
15:59
[Tzvika: I said, "OK, that's Bat-Chen, that's my daughter.]
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我說: "是的,那是百辰,是我的女兒"
16:02
[Are you sure she is dead?"]
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你確定她已經死了?
16:05
[They said yes.]
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根據他們的消息,是的
16:06
Video: (Police siren and shouting over megaphone)
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16:08
[Bethlehem, Occupied Palestinian Territories, 2003]
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16:15
[George: On that day, at around 6:30]
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席維卡:那天六點半時
16:18
[I was driving with my wife and daughters to the supermarket.]
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我載著太太和女兒去超市
16:26
[When we got to here ...]
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到了那裡...
看到了三輛以色列軍事吉普車停在路邊
16:30
[we saw three Israeli military jeeps parked on the side of the road.]
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通過第一輛時...
16:36
[When we passed by the first jeep ...]
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16:38
[they opened fire on us.]
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他們朝我們開火
16:41
[And my 12-year-old daughter Christine]
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12 歲的女兒,克莉絲汀
16:44
[was killed in the shooting.]
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就這樣被開槍打死了
16:47
[Bereaved Families Forum, Jerusalem]
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16:58
[Tzvika: I'm the headmaster for all parts.]
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席維卡:我是學校校長
17:01
[George: But there is a teacher that is in charge?]
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喬治:但是有老師代替你的職務?
17:04
[Tzvika: Yes, I have assistants.]
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席維卡:沒錯,我有幾個助理
17:06
[I deal with children all the time.]
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我常處理小孩的事
17:09
[One year after their daughters' deaths both Tzvika and George join the forum]
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17:15
[George: At first, I thought it was a strange idea.]
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席維卡:一開始我以為這是奇怪的想法
但想清楚後
17:21
[But after thinking logically about it, ]
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17:23
[I didn't find any reason why not to meet them]
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我發現沒道理不見他們
17:29
[and let them know of our suffering.]
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讓他們了解我們的痛苦
17:34
[Tzvika: There were many things that touched me.]
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喬治:許多事感動我
17:38
[We see that there are Palestinians who suffered a lot, who lost children,]
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我們目睹巴勒斯坦人失去孩子,飽受煎熬
17:43
[and still believe in the peace process and in reconciliation.]
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但還是相信和平進程與雙邊和解
17:47
[If we who lost what is most precious can talk to each other,]
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一旦我們失去最珍貴的東西,可以換來彼此對話
17:50
[and look forward to a better future,]
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以及追尋美好未來機會
17:53
[then everyone else must do so, too.]
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那大家就都必須這麼做
18:00
[From South Africa: A Revolution Through Music]
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18:05
[Amandla]
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18:07
(Music)
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18:09
(Video) Man: Song is something that we communicated with people
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歌曲是我們彼此溝通的一種媒介
18:12
who otherwise would not have understood where we're coming from.
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和那些不知從何而來的人溝通
18:17
You could give them a long political speech,
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你可以發表政治演說
18:19
they would still not understand.
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他們還是不會懂
18:22
But I tell you, when you finish that song,
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但要是你把歌唱完
18:24
people will be like, "Damn, I know where you niggas are coming from.
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他們會說:"媽的,我知道你們打那兒來"
18:28
I know where you guys are coming from.
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我知道你們打那兒來
18:30
Death unto apartheid!"
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誓死反抗種族隔離
18:32
Narrator: It's about the liberation struggle.
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這和自由奮鬥有關...
18:36
It's about those children who took to the streets --
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和上街的孩童有關
18:39
fighting, screaming, "Free Nelson Mandela!"
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它們抗爭、大喊:"釋放曼德拉"
18:44
It's about those unions who put down their tools
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關於這些工會會員放下工具
18:49
and demanded freedom.
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爭取自由
18:52
Yes. Yes!
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對!
18:54
(Music and singing)
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18:59
(Singing) Freedom!
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自由!
19:02
(Applause)
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19:06
Jehane Noujaim: I think everybody's had that feeling of sitting in a theater,
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耶涵.妮詹姆:大家應該都有坐在戲院的經驗
和陌生人在漆黑的房間,看著令人震撼的影片
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in a dark room, with other strangers, watching a very powerful film,
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and they felt that feeling of transformation.
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他們感受到變化
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And what I'd like to talk about is
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我指的是--
我們究竟該如何利用這種感覺
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how can we use that feeling
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to actually create a movement through film?
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透過影片真正創造一場行動
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I've been listening to the talks in the conference,
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我聽過其他人的演說
羅伯.萊特昨天說過
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and Robert Wright said yesterday
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that if we have an appreciation for another person's humanity,
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若我們賞識他人的人性精神
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then they will have an appreciation for ours.
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他們也會對我們做同樣的事
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And that's what this is about.
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這就是精神所在
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It's about connecting people through film,
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透過影片,連結人群
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getting these independent voices out there.
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凝聚這些獨立的聲音
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Now, Josh Rushing actually ended up leaving the military
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現在喬許離開軍隊了
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and taking a job with Al Jazeera.
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接了半島電視台的工作
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(Laughter)
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他覺得自己是半島國際電視台的一員
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So his feeling is that he's at Al Jazeera International
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because he feels like he can actually use media
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因為他覺得可以真正運用媒體的力量
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to bridge the gap between East and West.
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解開中東和西方世界的誤會
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And that's an amazing thing.
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那真是令人振奮的一件事
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But I've been trying to think about ways
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但我一直在想方設法
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to give power to these independent voices,
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讓這些獨立的聲音擁有力量
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to give power to the filmmakers,
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給予這些製片人力量
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to give power to people who are trying to use film for change.
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給予嘗試用影片改變世界的朋友力量
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And there are incredible organizations
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有些很棒的組織
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that are out there doing this already.
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已經開始著手進行
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There's Witness, that you heard from earlier.
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各位剛也聽到親身經歷的人所說的
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There's Just Vision, that are working with Palestinians and Israelis
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有些正義的遠見,相信巴勒斯坦和以色列人可以合作
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who are working together for peace, and documenting that process
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共同為和平打拼,並記錄整個過程
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and getting interviews out there and using this film
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進行面訪,並利用這個影片
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to take to Congress to show that it's a powerful tool,
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帶到國會,證明它是多麼有力的工具
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to show that this is a woman who's had her daughter killed in an attack,
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播放一位婦人的女兒是如何在攻擊中喪生
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and she believes that there are peaceful ways to solve this.
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她仍相信可以用和平手段解決紛爭
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There's Working Films and there's Current TV,
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不論製作中的影片或電視放送
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which is an incredible platform for people around the world
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都可以讓全球人看到
20:54
to be able to put their --
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可以將他們--沒錯,很棒,不是嗎
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(Applause)
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Yeah, it's amazing.
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I've watched it and I'm blown away by it
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看過影片,我自己都深受感動
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and its potential to bring voices from around the world --
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它有潛力將全球的聲音放送出去
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independent voices from around the world --
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來自世界各地的獨立聲音
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and create a truly democratic, global television.
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打造真正民主、全球的電視
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So what can we do to create a platform for these organizations,
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那我們該如何為這些組織打造平台
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to create some momentum,
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創造動力
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to get everybody in the world involved in this movement?
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讓全世界的人都參與這場行動
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I'd like for us to imagine for a second.
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請各位花一秒鐘,想像有那麼一天
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Imagine a day when you have everyone coming together from around the world.
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若全球所有人都凝聚起來
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You have towns and villages and theaters --
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全球的鄉鎮、戲院充滿著人
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all from around the world,
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getting together, and sitting in the dark,
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坐在一片漆黑的房間中
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and sharing a communal experience of watching a film,
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分享觀看影片的共同經驗
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or a couple of films, together.
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或一起觀看好幾部影片
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Watching a film which maybe highlights a character that is fighting to live,
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其中一部影片的劇情
可能是主角為生存奮鬥
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or just a character that defies stereotypes,
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或反抗刻板印象
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makes a joke, sings a song.
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說個笑話,唱首歌
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Comedies, documentaries, shorts.
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搞笑、記錄、小品
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This amazing power can be used to change people
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這些驚人的力量都可以用來改變大眾
22:09
and to bond people together; to cross borders,
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將大眾凝聚在一起,不分國界
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and have people feel like they're having a communal experience.
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讓大眾感覺他們分享共同經驗
22:16
So if you imagine this day when all around the world,
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試想,有那麼一天,全世界的人都做同件事
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you have theaters and places where we project films.
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各地戲院播放同樣的影片
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If you imagine projecting from Times Square
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各位想像一下--
從時代廣場投射到開羅的塔希爾廣場
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to Tahrir Square in Cairo,
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the same film in Ramallah, the same film in Jerusalem.
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同樣的影片在雷馬拉,在耶路撒冷播放
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You know, we've been talking to a friend of mine
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甚至可以利用--我們和我一位朋友談過
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about using the side of the Great Pyramid
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利用埃及金字塔的其中一邊
22:40
and the Great Wall of China.
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在中國長城牆上播放
這充滿無限可能
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It's endless what you can imagine,
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in terms of where you can project films
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你想播放影片的地點到處皆可
22:50
and where you can have this communal experience.
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不論何地,都可引起共鳴
22:52
And I believe that this one day, if we can create it,
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我深信若有這麼一天
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this one day can create momentum for all of these independent voices.
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只要一天,就可為那些獨立的聲音創造動力
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There isn't an organization which is connecting the independent voices
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沒有一個地方--
沒有任何一個組織
將世界上的獨立聲音串連起來
23:05
of the world to get out there,
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23:07
and yet I'm hearing throughout this conference
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整場大會聽下來
23:09
that the biggest challenge in our future
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未來最大的危險是理解不足
23:11
is understanding the other,
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23:12
and having mutual respect for the other and crossing borders.
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不同國界的人無法相互尊重
23:16
And if film can do that,
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若影片可以消弭這種危險
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and if we can get all of these different locations in the world
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若我們能貢獻一己之力
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to watch these films together --
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讓大家一起觀看影片,這會是驚人的一天
23:24
this could be an incredible day.
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23:27
So we've already made a partnership,
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所以我們已經透過TED建立夥伴連結網
23:30
set up through somebody from the TED community,
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TED社群有人幫忙我
23:34
John Camen, who introduced me to Steven Apkon,
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像約翰.凱門就為我引薦
雅各.博恩斯製片中心的史蒂芬.艾波肯
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from the Jacob Burns Film Center.
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23:40
And we started calling up everybody.
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所以我們開始聯絡大家
23:41
And in the last week,
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上禮拜有好多人回覆我們
23:43
there have been so many people that have responded to us,
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23:47
from as close as Palo Alto, to Mongolia and to India.
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來自世界各地像帕羅奧圖、蒙古、印度
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There are people that want to be a part of this global day of film;
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好多人都想共襄盛舉
23:56
to be able to provide a platform for independent voices
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為獨立的聲音提供平台
24:00
and independent films to get out there.
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讓獨立製片走出去
24:04
Now, we've thought about a name for this day,
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現在我們正要為這一天命名
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and I'd like to share this with you.
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我想和各位分享
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Now, the most amazing part of this whole process
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現在,整個過程最棒的部份
24:12
has been sharing ideas and wishes,
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就是分享想法、願望
24:15
and so I invite you to give brainstorms onto
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邀請各位腦力激盪一下
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how does this day echo into the future?
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這一天在未來該如何進行?
24:22
How do we use technology to make this day echo into the future,
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如何運用科技讓這一天在未來也能夠發揮力量
24:27
so that we can build community
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如此才可建立社群
24:29
and have these communities working together, through the Internet?
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透過網路讓各社群合作嗎?
24:34
There was a time, many, many years ago,
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好久好久以前
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when all of the continents were stuck together.
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各大陸是連在一塊的
24:39
And we call that landmass Pangea.
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我們稱之為盤古大陸
24:42
So what we'd like to call this day of film is Pangea Cinema Day.
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所以我們想將這天命名為盤古電影日
24:48
And if you just imagine
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各位想像一下
24:50
that all of these people in these towns would be watching,
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所有人都在觀看影片
24:53
then I think that we can actually really make a movement
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這樣我想就可以創造一種行動
24:57
towards people understanding each other better.
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讓所有人彼此了解
25:00
I know that it's very intangible, touching people's hearts and souls,
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我知道那很無形,觸動人的心和靈魂
25:03
but the only way that I know how to do it,
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但這是唯一我會做的方法
25:05
the only way that I know how to reach out to somebody's heart and soul
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唯一我知道該如何走出去的方法
播放影片,橫越世界,走進他人的心與靈魂
25:10
all across the world, is by showing them a film.
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25:13
And I know that there are independent filmmakers and films out there
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我知道有許多獨立製片人仍在努力
25:16
that can really make this happen.
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讓這一切順利成真
那就是我的願望
25:19
And that's my wish.
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我想我該說出完整的願望
25:21
I guess I'm supposed to give you my one-sentence wish,
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25:25
but we're way out of time.
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但時間有限
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Chris Anderson: That is an incredible wish.
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那是個了不起的願望
25:30
Pangea Cinema: The day the world comes together.
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盤古電影日 -- 凝聚世界的一天
25:33
JN: It's more tangible than world peace, and it's certainly more immediate.
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這比世界和平來的實際,而且比較快達成
25:36
But it would be the day that the world comes together through film,
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但必須透過影片,團結世界,造就那一天
25:42
the power of film.
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這正是影片的力量
25:43
CA: Ladies and gentlemen, Jehane Noujaim.
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各位先生女士,耶涵.妮詹姆,為她掌聲鼓勵
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