Rayma Suprani: Dictators hate political cartoons -- so I keep drawing them | TED
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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: Val Zhang
00:12
[This talk is delivered in Spanish
with consecutive English translation]
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〔本演說為西班牙語,
搭配英語口譯〕
00:16
(Rayma Suprani: Speaks Spanish)
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(講者:說西班牙語)
00:20
Cloe Shasha: When I was a little girl,
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譯者:小時候,我會在
家中所有的牆面畫畫。
00:22
I used to draw
on all the walls of my house.
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00:25
(RS: Speaks Spanish)
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(講者:說西班牙語)
00:33
CS: Until one day, my mother
got angry and told me,
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譯者:直到有天,
我母親生氣了,對我說:
00:36
"You can only draw on one wall.
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「你只能畫一面牆,
不能畫其他牆。」
00:38
Don't draw on any others."
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00:39
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:41
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
00:44
That was the first time I experienced
an act of totalitarian censorship.
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那是我第一次體驗到
極權主義的審查制度。
00:48
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:51
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
00:56
But a lack of freedom
stimulates creativity and empowers it.
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但失去自由會激發並強化創意。
01:00
(Speaks Spanish)
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01:19
Many years have passed since my childhood,
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孩提時光荏苒,
01:21
but throughout my formal studies,
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但求學期間,我發現自己
總是在筆記的邊角畫畫,
01:23
I found myself drawing
in the margins of my notebooks
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01:25
instead of paying attention
to my professors.
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而非專注在課堂上。
01:28
I studied journalism in college
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我在大學讀新聞系,
01:30
with the intention of expanding
my communication and writing skills,
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因為想要拓展溝通和撰寫技巧,
01:33
but the only thing
that I felt connected to in life
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但生命中我心之所向的志業,
01:36
was drawing.
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就是畫畫。
01:37
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
01:43
I was born in a democracy,
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我生在民主國家,
01:45
in a country called Venezuela,
which is now a dictatorship.
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叫做委內瑞拉,
但現在是獨裁國家。
01:49
(Speaks Spanish)
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02:01
For 19 years,
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有 19 年的時間,
02:02
I was the daily cartoonist
for "El Universal,"
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我曾任《環球日報》的
每日專欄漫畫家,
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one of the biggest newspapers
in Venezuela.
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它是委內瑞拉最大的報紙之一。
02:07
I really enjoyed translating political
and cultural current events into drawings.
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我很享受把政治
及文化時事轉成圖畫。
02:12
(Speaks Spanish)
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02:25
In the year 2014,
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2014 年,
02:26
I got fired from my job at the newspaper
over a cartoon that I drew
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我因為一張作品,
而丟了這份工作,
02:30
alluding to the health care
system in Venezuela.
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我的畫影射委內瑞拉的醫療體制。
02:33
I drew a flat line of a heartbeat monitor,
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我畫了心電圖上的水平線,
02:35
but I intentionally drew
the heartbeat line
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但我刻意將心電圖的線條
02:37
in a way that resembled
the signature of Hugo Chavez,
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擬似委內瑞拉前總統
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the former president of Venezuela.
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烏戈.查維茲的簽名。
02:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:43
(Speaks Spanish)
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02:51
All of this happened
after the newspaper was bought
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這些都發生在有間陌生的
公司買下報社之後,
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by an unknown company,
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02:55
and some of us suspect
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我們有些人懷疑,
02:57
that it was the Venezuelan government
who was behind that deal.
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此宗交易的幕後
正是委內瑞拉政府。
03:00
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
03:11
My work as a cartoonist
became more and more of a nuisance
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身為漫畫家,我的作品
讓獨裁政府越來越頭痛。
03:14
for the dictatorship.
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03:15
They have no tolerance
for any freedom of expression
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他們無法容忍任何自由的表達
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or free thinking.
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或自由思想。
03:20
(Speaks Spanish)
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03:37
After I got fired,
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我被開除後,
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I started to feel unsafe
in my own country.
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我在自己的國家裡
也開始感到不安全。
03:41
I received anonymous calls
and death threats.
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我會接到匿名電話和死亡威脅。
03:44
I was mocked publicly
on national television.
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在全國電視節目上,
我被公開嘲弄。
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I was eventually forced out of Venezuela,
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最終,我被迫離開委內瑞拉,
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and I now live in Miami, Florida,
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現在我住在佛羅里達州的邁阿密,
03:51
where I am free to be
my own editor for my work.
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在這裡,我能夠編輯自己的作品。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
04:07
A political cartoon is a barometer
of freedom in a country.
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政治漫畫是衡量國家
自由程度的指標。
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That's why dictators hate cartoonists
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這就是獨裁者痛恨漫畫家的原因,
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and try to eradicate everything
that involves humor
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並會試圖根除用幽默來反映
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as a mirror for social
and political issues.
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社會和政治議題的任何作品。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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04:26
A cartoon involves a delicate balance
of ideas and drawings
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漫畫要在想法和繪圖
之間找到微妙的平衡,
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that reveal a hidden truth.
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來揭露隱藏的真相。
04:32
(Speaks Spanish)
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04:37
And a good cartoon is one that conveys
a plot of a full-length movie
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好的漫畫能夠透過一張圖
傳遞一整部電影的劇情。
04:40
in a single frame.
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04:42
(Speaks Spanish)
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04:56
A cartoon needs to communicate
the core of a story with its precision.
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漫畫需要精準地
傳達故事的核心。
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And when it succeeds,
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成功時,
05:01
its message can have the effect
of inoculating people
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它的訊息所發揮的效果,
就會像為讀者打「懷疑論」的疫苗。
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with a dose of skepticism.
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05:06
(Speaks Spanish)
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05:22
Cartoons are drawn
from observation and analysis.
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畫漫畫要靠觀察和分析。
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They are inspired by muses of mythology,
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漫畫的靈感來自於神話,
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as well as classical, modern
and paleolithic tales.
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以及經典、現代,
及舊石器時代的傳說。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:34
When we are told that a modern-day emperor
is wearing new clothes,
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當我們被告知現代帝王穿上了新衣,
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cartoons reveal that the emperor
just might still be naked.
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漫畫則揭露他可能仍是全裸的。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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At one point in my career,
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職涯中有一度,
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I drew pigs and compared them
with politicians and national guards
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我用豬來比喻
政客和國民警衛隊,
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who were responsible for stopping
peaceful student demonstrations.
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因為他們負責鎮壓和平的學生示威。
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One day, when I got back to my office,
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有一天,我回到辦公室,
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I had a letter on my desk.
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我桌上躺著一封信。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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The letter was from
the Venezuelan Swine Federation.
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寄件人是委內瑞拉豬隻聯盟。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
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The letter said,
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信寫道:「請不要把豬
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"Please do not compare an animal
as wonderful as a pig with politicians.
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這麼美好的動物拿來比喻政客。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)豬很友善且高尚,
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Pigs are very friendly and noble,
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they can be a great mascot,
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牠們是很棒的吉祥物,
很好的寵物,
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they make good pets
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and they provide sustenance to us
in the form of pork."
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牠們還以豬肉的形式
提供我們食物。」
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(Speaks Spanish)
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I think they were absolutely right.
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我完全認同他們。我不再畫豬了,
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I didn't draw any more pigs,
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但我仍然繼續畫政客。
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but I did keep drawing politicians.
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07:07
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:08
(Speaks Spanish)
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07:26
A cartoon travels
on an information highway,
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漫畫在資訊的公路上流通,
07:29
which seems like it has multiple lanes,
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看似有多線道,
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but in reality, all of these lanes
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實際上,每一線
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lead to a binary response
of either positivity or rage.
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最終都來到二元的
回應:正面或憤怒
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"I like it" or "I don't like it."
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「我喜歡它」或「我不喜歡它」。
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Those are the only responses
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網路上支配著民主思想的
回應只有這兩種。
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that govern democratic thinking
on the internet.
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07:44
(Speaks Spanish)
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We have lost the space for nuanced debate,
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我們失去了做細微辯論的空間,
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we have no time,
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我們沒有時間,所以我們
只回應認同或鄙視,
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so we simply respond
with approval or disdain,
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and we let algorithms take over.
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並讓演算法接管。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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08:20
But a cartoon is born
from a space of deep, nuanced thinking.
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但漫畫誕生在深刻、
縝密思考的空間中。
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Creating a good cartoon
involves repeated failures,
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要畫出一張好漫畫,
需要經過不斷失敗,
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draft after draft.
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畫一張又一張的草稿。
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And a cartoonist must shed
their own taboos
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且漫畫家必須要擺脫
自己的忌諱,
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to spark a conversation,
rather than a confrontation,
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透過他們的作品激起
對話,而非對峙。
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through their work.
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08:36
(Speaks Spanish)
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08:54
In the year 2013, President Chavez died,
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2013 年,查維茲總統過世,
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and I had to think about what to draw
as the cartoon of the day
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我得思考在當天的
《環球日報》上要畫什麼。
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at "El Universal."
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I was personally happy
that he had passed away,
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我個人很高興他過世了,
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because I thought
that the end of his power
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因為我認為,他的權力告終
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would potentially bring our country
closer to freedom and better times.
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可能讓我們的國家邁向
自由和更好的時代。
09:10
(Speaks Spanish)
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09:20
But there were many other people
who were mourning the death of Chavez,
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但有許多人在哀悼查維茲的逝世,
09:23
so there was a divided
sentiment in Venezuela.
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所以,在委內瑞拉有分裂的情緒。
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Some were celebrating,
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有些人在慶祝,
09:26
and others were crying
at the loss of their leader.
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其他人則因為失去
領導人而在哭泣。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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09:45
I felt stuck,
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我的思緒卡關,
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I really didn't know what to draw
in this historic moment.
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在這歷史性的一刻卻不知道該畫什麼。
我知道不能讓個人的
喜悅滲入作品中,
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And I knew that I couldn't allow
my happiness to seep into my work,
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09:52
that I should take the higher road
and respect people's grief.
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我應當展現高度的素養,
尊重人民的悲慟。
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So what could I draw?
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所以,我能畫什麼?
09:57
(Speaks Spanish)
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10:15
I spent many hours drafting
and throwing out papers.
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我花了數小時反覆擬稿。
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My editor called me and said
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我的編輯打電話告訴我,
當天所有稿件都遲了,
10:19
everything was late
for that day's newspaper
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10:22
and asked me when I'd be done.
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並問我何時可以交稿。
10:23
It was in the middle of the night
that the idea came to me.
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在半夜時,我靈光一現。
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And we then published a cartoon
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接著,我們刊出了
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that represented
a historical moment in time.
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一張代表歷史時刻的漫畫。
10:31
(Speaks Spanish)
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10:35
A fallen king chess piece in red.
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倒下的紅色國王棋子。
10:38
(Speaks Spanish)
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10:50
A good cartoon has a lot of power.
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好的漫畫有很大的力量。
10:53
It can generate action and reaction.
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它能產生行動和反應。
10:55
That's why a cartoonist must
exercise their power responsibly,
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那就是為什麼漫畫家在行使
其能力時必須要負責任,
10:59
showcasing the truth
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展現出真相,
11:00
and drawing without
the fear of consequences.
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下筆時不能害怕後果。
11:03
(Speaks Spanish)
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11:08
Having an opinion has a cost,
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「有主張」是有代價的,
11:09
and in some countries, that cost is high.
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且在某些國家中,代價很高。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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11:29
In Venezuela,
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在委內瑞拉,許多年輕人
因為和平抗爭而被殺害。
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many young people have been killed
for protesting peacefully.
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11:34
There are men and women
who are stuck behind bars
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有男男女女被視為
政治犯而關在牢裡。
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as political prisoners.
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11:38
So over the years,
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這些年來,我畫過
被監禁的女人的面孔,
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I've drawn the faces of imprisoned women,
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because I don't want them
to be forgotten by the community.
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因為我不希望她們被大眾忘記。
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(Speaks Spanish)
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12:06
This year at an event
called El Foro Penal,
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今年有個活動El Foro
Penal,即刑事論壇,
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which is a criminal forum
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12:11
where a group of lawyers do pro bono work
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由一群律師為委內瑞拉的
政治犯提供免費諮詢,
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for Venezuelan political prisoners,
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a young woman approached me and she said,
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活動上 ,一名年輕女子對我說:
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"I was imprisoned,
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「我曾經被監禁,
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and then you drew my face and my story.
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而你畫出了我的臉孔和故事。
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It's because of that drawing
that people knew who I was.
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那張漫畫讓大家知道我是誰。
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Your cartoon helped me survive
my days in prison.
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你的漫畫協助我
撐過在獄中的日子。
12:27
Thank you."
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謝謝你。」
12:29
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
12:36
This was a moment that meant a lot to me,
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這個時刻對我意義重大,
因為我找到既能抒發鄉愁,
又能為同胞貢獻的方法。
12:38
because I had found a way to collaborate
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12:40
with the memories
of my country and its people.
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(說西班牙語)
12:42
(Speaks Spanish)
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13:01
Last year, I started making
drawings about immigration.
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去年,我開始畫移民的議題。
13:05
I drew my own world, my fears,
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我畫出我的世界、我的恐懼、
13:08
my suitcase, my roots
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我的旅行箱、我的根,
13:10
and everything that I had
to leave behind in Venezuela.
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及離開委內瑞拉時我捨棄的一切。
13:13
I also drew my joy
in the face of this new opportunity
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我也畫出身為美國移民,
13:16
as an immigrant in the United States.
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在面對這個新機會時的喜悅。
13:18
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
13:25
From there, I worked
on a series of drawings
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之後,我投入一系列的畫作,
13:27
that represented the experience
and psychology of immigration.
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代表移民的經歷以及心理狀態。
13:31
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
13:45
Being an immigrant
is like moving to another planet.
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移民就好像搬到另一個星球。
13:48
At first, you don't understand
anything about your new world.
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一開始,你完全
不了解你的新世界。
13:51
There are new codes, a new language
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那裡有新的規則、新的語言,
13:53
and unfamiliar tools
you need to learn how to use
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你還得學習如何使用
不熟悉的工具,
13:56
in order to adapt to your new life.
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才能適應你的新生活。
13:59
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
14:04
Being an immigrant is the closest thing
to being an astronaut
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和太空人登陸月球
最接近的經歷就是當移民。
14:07
who landed on the moon.
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14:09
(Speaks Spanish)
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14:25
Over time, that series of drawings
became a traveling exhibition,
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這系列的畫作逐漸
演變成巡迴展覽,
14:28
called "I, Immigrant."
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名叫「我,移民」。
14:30
And the exhibition traveled
to multiple cities,
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這場巡迴展覽到過許多城市,
14:33
including Miami, Houston,
Madrid, Barcelona,
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包括邁阿密、休士頓、
馬德里、巴賽隆納,
14:36
and we're hoping for more places.
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我們希望還能去更多地方。
14:38
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
14:46
The show has become
a meeting space for the diaspora,
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這場展覽成了移民的會面場所,
14:49
for people to gather and recognize
their shared experiences of suffering
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讓大家同聚並體認到
同為移民所承受的相似經歷。
14:53
that come with immigration.
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14:55
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
15:15
What I want these drawings to convey
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我盼這些畫作能傳達:
移民不是罪犯。
15:16
is that an immigrant is not a criminal.
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15:19
An immigrant is a person
whose life has been broken.
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移民只是人生破碎的人。
15:22
A person who has very likely
been separated from their family
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他們很可能在不人道的條件下
15:25
under inhumane conditions.
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與家人失散。
15:27
Who has been forced to leave their country
in search of a better life.
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他們可能被迫離開祖國
去尋找更好的生活。
15:31
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
15:43
A drawing can be a synthesis of a place,
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一張畫作可能是一個地方、
15:45
a universe, a country or a society.
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一個宇宙、一個國家,
或一個社會的縮影。
它也可能代表某個人的內在思緒。
15:49
It can also represent
the inner workings of someone's mind.
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15:52
For me, drawing cartoons
is a form of resistance.
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對我來說,畫漫畫
是一種對抗的形式。
15:56
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
16:09
A cartoon is like a Rosetta stone.
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漫畫就像是羅塞塔石碑。
16:12
If we throw it into outer space,
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若把它丟到外太空,
16:13
a future alien would be
able to know with certainty
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未來的外星人可以
肯定知道,在過去,
16:16
that in the past,
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16:17
we once had a civilized world
with free thinking.
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我們曾有過一個容許
自由思想的文明世界。
16:20
(Speaks Spanish)
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(說西班牙語)
16:27
That one wall that my mother gave me
the freedom to draw on feels infinite.
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母親容許我畫的那面牆,
仿若無邊無際。
16:31
And it's for that reason
that I am still drawing.
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為此,我繼續畫畫。
16:34
Thank you very much.
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非常謝謝。
16:35
(Cheers and applause)
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(歡呼及掌聲)
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