John Walker: Re-creating great performances

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譯者: K. C. Peng 審譯者: Leonard Lin
00:16
Ninety-nine percent of us have the dream of listeners.
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99%的我們都是音樂聆聽著
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Not being the musicians -- the listeners, right?
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不是音樂演奏者, 是聆聽者, 對吧?
00:22
And we crave one thing,
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我們都渴望一件事
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even though we kind of don't know it all the time.
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雖然我們常不自覺
00:26
We crave to be in the room with the musician
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但我們渴望能與音樂家同在
00:31
the day it was recorded, the day it was played.
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錄音室中, 看著錄音的完成
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And we go to live concerts, and we get that as much as we can.
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同理, 我們總是喜歡盡可能地到現場聽音樂會
00:36
But then we listen to the other 99 percent of our stuff recorded.
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但又總是花99%的時間聽被錄製的音樂
00:39
And it turns out the further back you go in history,
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事實是 聽越久遠的錄音
00:42
the little rougher it sounds.
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失真越多
00:44
And so we said, there's a solution to this.
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我們提供了一解決方式
00:48
Let's separate the performance, as a thing,
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我們要把演奏這件事與
00:52
out from the recording, which was how it was made.
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錄音分離 就是錄音現場狀況
00:55
You know, the thing with microphones in the room and all that day.
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就像是麥克風那一整天設在錄音室中
00:58
But the performance itself was how the musicians worked their fingers,
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而演出是只音樂家如何移動他們的手指
01:01
and what instruments they were using.
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彈奏他們的樂器
01:03
And it's the data hidden inside the recording.
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這些是錄音後被隱藏的數據
01:08
In order to do this, it's a lot of hardware and software
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為了克服 需要大量的硬體與軟體分析
01:11
that runs in a very high resolution.
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以高解析度的方式處理
01:13
And Yamaha makes an incredible thing called the Disklavier Pro
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Yamaha 作出一驚人的產品 叫 "Disklavier Pro"
01:17
that looks like a nice grand piano there.
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它看起來只是個三角大鋼琴
01:19
And you probably didn't realize it's going to do all these things --
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但有所不知的是它能作所有的事
01:21
but full of solenoids, and fiber optics, and computers
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有著很多的線圈, 光纖 以及 電腦
01:24
and all this kind of stuff. The highest resolution out of Japan.
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等等硬體裝置 --- 有著日本最高的解析度
01:27
And this just didn't work until we could cross this line that says high-definition.
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這些都無法成功直到我們稱它是"高傳真清晰度"
01:31
And we were able to cross this line, called the uncanny valley,
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才成功的跨過阻礙
01:34
in terms of -- artificial intelligence terms.
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利用人工智慧
01:39
We have a process where we, you know,
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軟體處理
01:41
kind of put it into the computer and digitize it, and then a whole lot of analysis.
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用電腦數位化後做大量分析
01:44
And we look at every single note,
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我們分析每一音符
01:46
and all the attributes of those notes:
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以及其他的屬性
01:48
how hard they were struck, and how they were held down,
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音鍵是怎麼被敲下 以及持續被壓下多久
01:50
and how you move the fingers.
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又是怎麼移動手指
01:52
So we had to develop a whole new science of how you move your fingers.
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所以我們建立了一個全新的科學研究手指如何在琴鍵上移動
01:54
And, you know, it's a thing your piano teacher teaches you,
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就是那些細節你的鋼琴老師會教你的
01:57
but we never had a science behind these kinds of things.
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但我們從沒一個科學研究這些問題
02:00
I'm going to start with Glenn Gould.
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我要先介紹"Glenn Gould"
02:02
He died 25 years ago this year, and was born 75 years ago this year.
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他出生75年前 但於25年前離開人世
02:06
Was a beloved pianist, maybe the great cult pianist of the twentieth century.
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是個受人愛戴的鋼琴演奏家 可能是20世紀最為大的異類鋼琴師
02:10
He just got tired of being in front of an audience,
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他厭倦在觀眾前演出
02:12
and felt like -- a performing monkey was, in fact, his term.
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感覺就像是"耍猴戲" 他就是這麼說過
02:14
So he stepped back, and did nothing but the crafting of his work.
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所以他退下來 專研他的作品
02:18
And Gould's specialty was playing Bach.
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Gould 的專長就是演奏巴哈
02:20
His maybe most famous recording
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可能是他最有名的作品是
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was something called "The Goldberg Variations."
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"戈德堡變奏曲"
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Bach only wrote themes and variations one time.
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巴哈只寫下些主旋律與變奏
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He wrote some early pieces,
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Gould也在早年改寫些
02:29
but late in his life, in his mature period,
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但到了晚期, 也就是他的成熟期
02:31
he said, "Here's a theme -- 30 variations."
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他輕鬆的完成 30組變奏曲
02:34
In fact, the theme isn't even the melody, it's the bass line.
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事實上主調還不是旋律 而是低音線
02:37
And Gould recorded it in two major recordings that you may know about,
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Gould錄製在兩種錄音方式
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one in mono, and one in stereo.
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一在單音 一在立體聲道
02:44
And the one in mono, by the way, he used the pedal,
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在單音錄製時 他用了踏板
02:47
and as he got older, he said, "No, no, wait a minute.
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待他年長 他說 "不!不! 等等
02:50
I'm going to get very scientific about this, and not use the pedal."
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我得要更科學些而不用踏板錄音"
02:53
What I'd like you to hear live is the 1955 version,
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現在要為你們現場展示的是 1955年的版本
02:57
and we'll play the first couple pieces of it.
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我們只會演奏開始的一些片段
02:59
Glenn Gould, 1955.
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Glenn Gould, 1955 作品 ...
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(Music)
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(鋼琴聲)
05:35
How about that?
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如何?
05:37
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
05:41
So let me tell you a little bit how this was done.
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讓我告訴你們這是如何做到的
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First of all, let me get you to the end step.
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首先 讓我帶你們到最後階段
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This is -- we have a fairly complex process
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我們有了複雜的過程
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that, you know, software and musicians and so on,
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一大堆的軟體與音樂家等等
05:50
but when we're all done, we know that the ear is the final arbiter.
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但當我們完成後, 我們知道耳朵才是最後的仲裁
05:55
We can play the original in one ear, and a new recording in the other.
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我們可以用一隻耳朵聽原曲, 而在另一耳朵聽新錄製的
05:58
So I'm going to do this for you right now, what you just heard.
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而我也要為你們示範剛聽到的曲子
06:01
And in the right speaker is going to be the original recording,
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所以右聲道喇叭是原始錄製
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and the left speaker is going to be the new recording,
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左聲道喇叭是新錄製
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actually of an instrument just like that one,
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類似這鋼琴的新錄製
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and I'm going to play them together at the same time.
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我會同時播放左右聲道
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(Music)
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(鋼琴聲)
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That's the original. [Unclear] That's the two together.
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原始的
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(Music)
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(鋼琴聲)
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Before "Jurassic Park,"
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在電影"侏儸紀公園"前
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there was no science for how skin hung off of muscle, right?
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從未顯示恐龍的皮膚是如何長在考古研究後的肌肉上, 對吧?
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So, in the video world,
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所以在影像的世界中
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we've been able to invent, in our lifetimes, natural behavior.
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我們已經能用科技重現自然狀態
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And this is kind of another example
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我們這個就是另一
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of putting a science behind natural behavior.
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用科學重現當初原始的風貌
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And then you heard the original.
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也就是讓大家能聽到原始的現場
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Ultimately, I started with the experience.
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終極的 挑戰體驗
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And the experience is: I want to be in the room and hear the musicians.
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就是要能與錄音的音樂家同在一個錄音室中
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Lots of you can afford to buy one of these.
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相信許多其中的你們能買得起這樣的鋼琴
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But, if not, there is now high-definition surround sound.
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若不能 現在也有 高傳真的環場音響
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And I got to tell you, if you haven't heard high-definition surround,
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讓我提醒你 如果你還沒有聽過高傳真音效
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go down to your audio dealer, your audiophile dealer.
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快去音響經銷商試聽
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It's so involving compared to regular stereo.
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比一般音響更有臨場感
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But if you don't have that, maybe you can listen on your headphones.
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如果沒有這些 建議你用耳機收聽
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And so on the same disk we have five recordings --
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同張CD上 有5首錄音
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Sony has five recordings.
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SONY有5首錄音
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And you could listen in headphones
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可以用耳機收聽
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with this thing called binaural recording.
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利用了這叫"雙耳錄音法"
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And it's a dummy head that sits in front of the instrument,
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就是個假人頭放置於樂器前
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and it's got microphones where the ears are.
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假人的雙耳部分各有一麥克風
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And when you put on headphones, and you listen to this,
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所以當你戴上耳機時
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you're inside of Glenn Gould's body.
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你就好像是在Glenn Gould 的演奏位置
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And it is a chuckle until, you know, the musicians,
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這會是會心的微笑的
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who are musicians who play the piano, listen to this, say,
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當真的演奏家自己聽到這錄音會笑說
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"I can't believe it! It's just what it's like to play the piano."
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"我不敢相信 聽起來就好像是在演出中"
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Except now you're inside Glenn Gould's body playing the piano,
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差別是 你實際是在 Glenn Gould 的位置彈奏鋼琴
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and it feels like your fingers are making the decisions
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感覺像是你的手指在決定如何彈奏
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and moving through the whole process.
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移動在琴鍵上
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It's a game changer.
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是個業界革命性改變
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Here's now something we know in spectacular quality.
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這裡是我們所了解成就驚人品質的因素
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The whole process is very sensitive to temperature and humidity.
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樂器重現的整個過程 對溫溼度的變化相當敏感
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What you heard today was not perfect.
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今天所聽到的並不是最完美的
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It's an amalgam of wood, and cast iron, and felt,
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是木頭 鑄鐵 鋼弦
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and steel strings, and all these,
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等等的混合狀況
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and they're all amazingly sensitive to temperature and humidity.
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它們對溫溼度變化都非常敏感
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So when you go into the recording session,
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所以當要開始一錄製過程
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you get to stop after every piece and rebuild the piano if you need to.
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你必須要在每首錄製後停下檢查 必要時得重新建構鋼琴
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There's the whole action there, sitting, kind of, on the side,
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所有的錄製得停下待命
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and the dummy head and our recording engineers
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包括假人頭與錄音工程師
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standing around while we rebuild the piano.
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都得在一旁待命
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Without putting dates next to these things,
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沒有確定的時間表
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step-by-step music will be turned into data,
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按部就班地 音樂就能轉換成數據
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like every field that's occurred in the past 35 or 40 years.
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就像是每個專門領域的過去35~40年的發展
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Audio has come very late to this game --
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音響是較晚加入這場發展
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I'm not talking about digitizing, and bits, and re-mastering.
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不是指那些數位化, 數據, 與再混音錄製
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I'm talking about turn it into the data that it was made from,
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而是重現最初錄音時細節與狀態數據
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which is how it was performed.
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也就是剛剛所呈現的
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And audio came very late because our ears are so hard to fool --
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音響是最後加入精進行列, 是因為我們的耳朵是非常難去欺騙的
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they're high-resolution, and they're wired straight to our emotions,
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它們是高解析度 它們是直接連到情緒反應
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and you can't trick them very easily.
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無法騙過它們
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Your eyes are pretty happy with some color and movement, you know.
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我們的眼睛只要求顏色與動態
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All right, there's this episode of "Star Trek."
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舉例一集"星際爭霸戰"
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:22
I get it -- it was all just laid in for me yesterday there.
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昨天就像在我面前
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The episode of "Star Trek" for me was James Daly played Methuselah --
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那集的星際爭霸戰是 James Daly 飾演 Methuselah
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remember this one?
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記得這集嗎?
09:30
And at some point he's dancing with his --
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他在其中一段跳起舞來...
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and I won't ruin the episode for you, from 1967.
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我不會跟你講1967年的這集的內容的,放心
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Right, do you know where I'm going?
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你知道我想說什麼
09:37
And Nimoy, I'm sorry, Spock sits down at the piano,
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Nimoy 喔不! 是劇中的Spock 坐在鋼琴前
09:39
and he starts playing this Brahms waltz, and they all dance to it.
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他開始彈起了布拉姆斯的華爾茲 他們也就跳起舞來
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And then Spock turns round, he goes,
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Spock 站起說
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"James, I know all of the Brahms waltzes,
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"詹姆士, 我知道所有的布拉姆斯的華爾茲
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and I don't believe this is one of them in the category."
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我相信這曲並不是歸類在他之下"
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That's where I'm at.
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這就是我要說的
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I want to hear the waltzes Brahms didn't write.
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我想聽到布拉姆斯沒寫過的華爾茲
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I want to hear the pieces that Horowitz didn't play.
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我想聽到 Horowitz 沒彈奏過
10:04
But I believe we're on a path now, when we get to data,
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我相信我們是正朝向那個方向
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that we can distill styles, and templates, and formulas, and all these kinds of things,
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我們能萃取出風格 樣式 與 規則 等等細節
10:13
again, that you've seen happen in the computer graphics world.
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就像在電腦動畫世界中所體驗的重現
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It's now coming in this world.
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這樣的可能即將來臨
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The transition will be this one.
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轉換就是這個
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It says right now, we think music is notes and how they're played.
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我們認為音樂就是音符以及他們如何被演奏
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And I believe this is coming.
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我相信即將來臨
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Because what you've just heard was a computer playing data --
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因為剛剛聽到的就是電腦演奏數據 --
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no Glenn Gould in the room.
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沒有 Glenn Gould 在現場
10:32
But yet, it was human.
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但能感受到就像是真人彈奏出的
10:34
And I believe you'll get to the next step, the real dream of listeners.
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我也相信你會升級到另一階 聆聽者的夢想
10:37
Every time you listen to a recording today,
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每次你聽到一錄音
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every time you take out your iPod and whatever,
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每次當你拿出iPod 或是其他
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every time you listen to it, it's the same thing -- it's frozen.
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每次你聽到音樂 都是同樣的感受 就像是結凍一樣
10:47
Wouldn't it be cool if every time you listened, it could be different?
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這不是很棒嗎? 如果每次你聽音樂 都能是不同的
10:51
This morning, you're sadder, you want to hear your song,
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今晨你覺德感傷 你想聽到你的歌
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the same song, played sadder than you did yesterday.
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那同樣的歌 能演奏得較昨天悲傷些
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You want to hear it played by different musicians.
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或是你想聽到不同的演奏者
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You want to hear it in different rooms and whatever.
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你想聽到在不同的室內演出
11:01
We've seen all these "Star Treks," and they're all holodeck episodes as well.
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我們都看了星際爭霸戰 他們也就是利用虛擬場景
11:03
Every time I listen to that, I get goose bumps.
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每次我聽到這些音樂 我就起雞皮疙瘩
11:06
It's so amazing, it's so exciting.
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這麼驚人 這麼另人興奮
11:09
Every time I listen to that recording it's like, "Oh my God,
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每次我聽到這些音樂 就像是 天啊
11:11
I can't believe I'm in the same room. I can't believe this is happening."
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我不敢相信 居然同在一間室內 我無法相信聽到的
11:13
It's a way better experience
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這是一更高層次的體驗
11:15
than whatever you're used to listening to, in whatever form.
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相較之前我們曾聽過的任何形式
11:17
And lastly, I will wrap up with one minute of Art Tatum.
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最後 我想以一分鐘的 Art Tatum 演奏做結束
11:22
So I've really overshot my budget here.
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所以 會超過演講時間的
11:24
We made a new recording of him
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我們為他做了新的錄製
11:27
playing in the Shrine Auditorium in September.
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是九月在 Shrine 演奏廳錄製
11:30
It was a concert he recorded in the Shrine Auditorium in 1949.
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這原本是1949年Shrine 演奏廳的現場演出
11:34
And I've got to tell you, we have this lab
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我必須指出 我們有個實驗室
11:36
where we build and measure everything, back in Raleigh, North Carolina,
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位於北卡的Raleigh 可以建構與測量所有項目
11:39
and we flew out to Los Angeles.
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我們也飛來洛杉磯
11:42
And as the president of the company,
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身為公司的總經理
11:44
I didn't feel real comfortable about where we were.
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我並不覺得十分自在
11:47
That's a real uncomfortable feeling,
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這是個緊張的時候
11:49
when all the equipment's come out and a whole Sony team,
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當所有設備以及SONY團隊出現
11:51
and people are going to be sitting there in the audience.
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加上人們一一入座
11:53
And we put the piano on the sweet spot of the stage in the Shrine,
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我們將鋼琴放在Shrine台上
11:57
which has not changed since 1949, still seats 6,000 people.
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是1949年以來皆沒改變的 也坐入6000人
12:01
And on the sweet spot on the stage, Tatum starts playing ...
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就在舞台中央 Tatum 開始彈奏
12:04
and every note, every beat, every slur, every accent, every pedal
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每個音符 每個節拍 每個連音 每個重音 每個踏板
12:10
was perfect, because he played it for that room on that day.
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都是完美 因為他過去在那如何演出
12:14
And we captured all that data all over again.
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都被我們用數據分析捕捉到
12:16
And I want you to hear that right now.
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我希望你們現在也能聽見
12:18
And fortunately, it's right in here.
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就在這裡了
12:20
This is an encore he used to do.
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這是他常用的安可曲
12:23
It's one minute long.
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只有一分鐘長
12:25
It's an Irish jig, and I want you to hear his humor.
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是個愛爾蘭節奏 我希望你聽到他的幽默
12:27
(Music)
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(鋼琴聲)
13:23
(Applause)
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(熱烈掌聲)
13:24
And that's just what the live audience did.
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這也正是現場觀眾的反應
13:27
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
13:29
So thank you very much, Michael, thank you for the opportunity.
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謝謝大家 Michael, 謝謝這個機會
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