Is civility a sham? | Teresa Bejan

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【本演讲包含成人词汇,请酌情观看】
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Let's get this out of the way.
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我直说吧。
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I'm here because I wrote a book about civility,
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我在此是因为我写了 一本关于礼貌的书,
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and because that book came out
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也因为书正好在
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right around the 2016 American presidential election,
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2016 年美国总统大选期间出版,
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I started getting lots of invitations to come and talk about civility
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我开始接到很多关于礼貌和
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and why we need more of it in American politics.
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为什么在美国政治中 需要更多礼仪的演讲。
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So great.
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太好了。
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The only problem was that I had written that book about civility
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我写那本关于礼貌的书 的唯一问题是
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because I was convinced that civility is ...
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因为我确信礼貌是……
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bullshit.
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屁话。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Now, that may sound like a highly uncivil thing to say,
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这样说听起来可能非常无礼,
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and lucky for you, and for my publisher,
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不过各位和我的出版商不用担心,
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I did eventually come to change my mind.
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我确实最终改变了我的主意。
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In the course of writing that book
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在写那本书的过程中,
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and studying the long history of civility and religious tolerance
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我研究了 17 世纪文明和宗教宽容
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in the 17th century,
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的悠久历史,
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I came to discover that there is a virtue of civility,
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我开始发现礼貌的美德
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and far from being bullshit, it's actually absolutely essential,
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绝不是屁话,实际上是绝对必要的,
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especially for tolerant societies,
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尤其是对宽容的社会而言,
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so societies like this one, that promise not only to protect diversity
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像这样的社会,不仅承诺保障多样性,
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but also the heated and sometimes even hateful disagreements
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而且保护多样性引发的激烈,
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that that diversity inspires.
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有时甚至可恨的分歧。
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You see, the thing about disagreement
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关于分歧,
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is that there is a reason
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有个理由是
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that "disagreeable" is a synonym for "unpleasant."
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“不友好”是“不愉快”的同义词。
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As the English philosopher Thomas Hobbes pointed out
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正如英国哲学家 托马斯•霍布斯指出的那样,
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all the way back in 1642,
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回到 1642 年,
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that's because the mere act of disagreement is offensive.
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仅仅是意见不合就是无礼的。
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And Hobbes is still right. It works like this:
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霍布斯仍然是对的,事情往往是这样:
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so, if you and I disagree,
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如果你和我意见不一,
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and I'm right, because I always am,
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我当然是对的,因为我一直对,
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how am I to make sense of the fact that you are so very, very wrong?
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我怎么能理解 你是如此错误的事实呢?
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It couldn't possibly be that you've just come to a different conclusion
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不可能你碰巧出于善意得出
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in good faith?
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不同的结论吧?
不可能,一定没什么好事, 你一定很傻,
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No, you must be up to something, you must be stupid,
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bigoted, interested.
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顽固不化,有成见。
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Maybe you're insane.
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可能你根本不可理喻。
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And the same goes the other way. Right?
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反过来也一样,对吧?
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So the mere fact of your disagreeing with me
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所以,仅仅不同意我的观点
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is implicitly an insult not only to my views, but to my intelligence, too.
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就暗含着侮辱我的观点, 侮辱我的智商的事实。
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And things only get worse when the disagreements at stake
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当那些分歧发生在对我们来说 非常基础的事实上时,
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are the ones that we somehow consider to be fundamental,
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无论是世界观,还是我们的身份认同,
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whether to our worldviews or to our identities.
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事情往往会变得更糟。
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You know the kinds of disagreement I mean.
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你们知道我指的哪些分歧。
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One doesn't discuss religion or politics
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人们不会在餐桌上讨论宗教或政治
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or increasingly, the politics of popular culture, at the dinner table,
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或者越来越常见的, 讨论流行文化的政治,
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because these are the disagreements,
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因为这些分歧——
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these are the things that people really, seriously disagree about,
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这些真的是分歧很大的事情,
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and they define themselves against their opponents in the controversy.
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在这些争论中, 他们会与对手针锋相对。
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But of course those fundamental disagreements
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但当然,这些根本分歧
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are precisely the ones that tolerant societies
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正是像美国那样
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like the United States propose to tolerate,
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宽容的社会主张要宽容对待的,
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which perhaps explains why, historically, at least,
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这也许也解释了为什么, 至少在历史上,
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tolerant societies haven't been the happy-clappy communities of difference
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宽容的社会并不是你有时候听到的
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that you sometimes hear about.
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是那种充满差异的快乐社区。
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No, they tend to be places where people have to hold their noses
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不,它们往往是那种 人们尽管彼此相互轻视,
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and rub along together despite their mutual contempt.
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但不得不硬着头皮一起生活的地方。
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That's what I learned from studying religious tolerance
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这就是我在研究 近代早期的英国和美国
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in early modern England and America.
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宗教宽容中了解到的。
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And I also learned that the virtue that makes
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我也了解到使这种你可以称为
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that un-murderous coexistence, if you will, possible,
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“非致命的共存”成为可能的美德,
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is the virtue of civility,
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可能就是礼貌的美德,
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because civility makes our disagreements tolerable
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因为礼貌让我们的分歧得到容忍,
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so that we can share a life together even if we don't share a faith --
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这样我们就可以相安无事的共同生活, 尽管我们没有共同的信仰——
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religious, political or otherwise.
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无论是宗教,政治还是其他方面。
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Still, I couldn't help but notice
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尽管如此,我还是忍不住注意到,
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that when most people talk about civility today --
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当今天大多数人讨论礼貌时——
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and boy, do they talk about civility a lot --
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哦,他们真的经常讨论礼貌吗——
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they seem to have something else in mind.
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他们似乎还有别的想法。
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So if civility is the virtue that makes it possible to tolerate disagreement
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如果礼貌是让容忍分歧 成为可能的美德,
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so that we can actually engage with our opponents,
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这样我们就可以切实 与我们的对手互动,
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talking about civility
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那么谈论礼貌
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seems to be mainly a strategy of disengagement.
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似乎主要就是一种脱离接触的策略。
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It's a little bit like threatening to take your ball and go home
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这有点像当游戏不按自己意愿走时,
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when the game isn't going your way.
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我们就要退出游戏。
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Because the funny thing about incivility
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因为无礼的有趣之处在于
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is that it's always the sin of our opponents.
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这总是我们对手的罪过。
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It's funny.
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这很有趣。
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When it comes to our own bad behavior,
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当涉及我们自己的坏行为时,
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well, we seem to develop sudden-onset amnesia,
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我们似乎会突然失忆,
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or we can always justify it as an appropriate response
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或者我们总会把它看作我们对
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to the latest outrage from our opponents.
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对手最近一次愤怒的恰当反应。
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So, "How can I be civil to someone who is set out to destroy
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那么,“我们怎么能够对那些 想要摧毁我所代表的一切
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everything I stand for?
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的人礼貌呢?
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And by the way, they started it."
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顺便说一句,是他们挑起的。”
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It's all terrifically convenient.
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这么做非常便利。
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Also convenient is the fact that most of today's big civility talkers
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还有一个便利之处在于, 今天大多数的礼仪演讲家
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tend to be quite vague and fuzzy
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在谈到他们认为礼貌的实际含义时,
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when it comes to what they think civility actually entails.
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措辞往往是相当模棱两可的。
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We're told that civility is simply a synonym for respect,
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我们被告知礼貌只是尊重、
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for good manners, for politeness,
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好脾气、友好的同义词,
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but at the same time, it's clear that to accuse someone of incivility
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但与此同时,指责别人无礼
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is much, much worse than calling them impolite,
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比称呼他们粗鲁要更加,更加糟糕,
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because to be uncivil is to be potentially intolerable
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因为从潜在的意义上说, 无礼是不可容忍的,
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in a way that merely being rude isn't.
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粗鲁则不是。
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So to call someone uncivil, to accuse them of incivility,
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所以说某人无礼,指责他们不懂礼貌,
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is a way of communicating that they are somehow beyond the pale,
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是在传达他们超越界限,
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that they're not worth engaging with at all.
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根本不值得交往的一种沟通方式。
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So here's the thing:
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所以事情是这样的:
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civility isn't bullshit,
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礼貌不是废话,
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it's precious because it's the virtue that makes fundamental disagreement
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它非常宝贵,因为正是 这种美德使根本的分歧
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not only possible but even sometimes occasionally productive.
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不仅成为可能,有时甚至会产生成效。
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It's precious, but it's also really, really difficult.
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这很珍贵,但也非常非常困难。
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Civility talk, on the other hand,
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另一方面,礼节性交谈,
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well, that's really easy,
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很简单,
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really easy,
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真的很简单,
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and it also is almost always complete bullshit,
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而且几乎总是屁话,
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which makes things slightly awkward for me
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这对我来说有点尴尬,
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as I continue to talk to you about civility.
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当我还在继续跟你们 讲礼貌的时候。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Anyway, we tend to forget it,
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总之,我们很容易忘记,
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but politicians and intellectuals have been warning us for decades now
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但几十年来,政客和知识分子 一直在警告我们
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that the United States is facing a crisis of civility,
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美国正面临礼貌危机,
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and they've tended to blame that crisis on technological developments,
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他们倾向于把这个危机 归咎于技术发展,
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on things like cable TV, talk radio, social media.
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如有线电视,脱口秀,社交媒体。
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But any historian will tell you
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但任何历史学家会跟你说
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that there never was a golden age of disagreement,
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这是有史以来分歧的“黄金时代”,
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let alone good feelings,
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更不用说美好的感觉了,
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not in American politics.
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美国政治中根本不存在。
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In my book, though, I argue that the first modern crisis of civility
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在我的书中,我倒认为 首个现代的礼貌危机
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actually began about 500 years ago,
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其实开始于 500 年前,
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when a certain professor of theology named Martin Luther
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当时一位叫马丁·路德的神学教授
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took advantage of a recent advancement in communications technology,
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利用了最近通信技术的进步,
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the printing press,
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即印刷技术,
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to call the Pope the Antichrist,
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称教皇为反基督者,
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and thus inadvertently launch the Protestant Reformation.
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无意中引发了新教改革。
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So think of the press, if you will, as the Twitter of the 16th century,
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你可以把印刷技术想像成 16 世纪的 Twitter,
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and Martin Luther as the original troll.
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马丁·路德饰演最初的喷子。
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And I'm not exaggerating here.
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我并没有夸大其词。
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He once declared himself unable to pray
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他曾宣称,如果不同时诅咒
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without at the same time cursing
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他的“反基督徒”,
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his "anti-Christian," i.e. Catholic, opponents.
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比如天主教反对者,他就没法祈祷。
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And of course, those Catholic opponents clutched their pearls
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当然,那些天主教反对者 也抓住他们的念珠,
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and called for civility then, too,
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呼吁礼貌,
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but all the while, they gave as good as they got
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但同时,他们也尽一切可能
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with traditional slurs like "heretic,"
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使用了“异教徒”这样侮辱的语言,
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and, worst of all, "Protestant,"
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或者更甚的,用“新教徒”,
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which began in the 16th century as an insult.
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这种始于 16 世纪的侮辱性语言。
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The thing about civility talk, then as now,
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关于礼貌的交谈,跟现在一样,
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was that you could call out your opponent for going low,
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你可以指责你的对手手段太低劣,
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and then take advantage of the moral high ground
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然后利用道德制高点
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to go as low or lower,
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去变低或者更低,
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because calling for civility sets up the speaker
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因为呼吁文明礼貌把说话者塑造成
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as a model of decorum while implicitly, subtly stigmatizing
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礼仪的典范, 同时含蓄,巧妙地侮辱
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anyone with the temerity to disagree as uncivil.
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那些胆敢不同意的人是无礼的。
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And so civility talk in the 17th century becomes a really effective way
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因此,在 17 世纪, 礼貌性的谈话成为了
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for members of the religious establishment
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宗教团体成员保持
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to silence, suppress, exclude dissenters outside of the established church,
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沉默,压制,排除异己的有效方式,
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especially when they spoke out against the status quo.
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尤其是当他们公开反对现状的时候。
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So Anglican ministers could lecture atheists
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因此,英国国教的牧师 可以向无神论者
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on the offensiveness of their discourse.
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宣讲他们的言论的冒犯性。
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Everyone could complain about the Quakers
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每个人都可以抱怨贵格会教友会
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for refusing to doff and don their hats
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拒绝脱下他们的帽子
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or their "uncouth" practice of shaking hands.
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或他们“粗鲁”的握手习惯。
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But those accusations of incivility
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但这些无礼的指责
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pretty soon became pretexts for persecution.
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很快就成了迫害的借口。
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So far, so familiar, right?
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目前为止,听上去很耳熟,对吧?
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We see that strategy again and again.
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我们一遍又遍的目睹这一策略。
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It's used to silence civil rights protesters in the 20th century.
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它在 20 世纪被用来 压制民权抗议者。
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And I think it explains why partisans on both sides of the aisle
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我想这也解释了为什么两党都在
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keep reaching for this, frankly, antiquated,
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追求这个,坦率的说,是这个过时的,
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early modern language of civility
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早期现代文明的语言,
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precisely when they want to communicate that certain people and certain views
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当他们想要表明 某些人,某些观点
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are beyond the pale,
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是不可理喻的时候,
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but they want to save themselves the trouble
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但他们想省掉
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of actually making an argument.
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争论的麻烦。
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So no wonder skeptics like me tend to roll our eyes
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因此,难怪当倡导对话美德 的呼声开始响起时,
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when the calls for conversational virtue begin,
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像我这样的怀疑论者往往会翻白眼,
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because instead of healing our social and political divisions,
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因为与治愈我们 的社会和政治分歧相比,
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it seems like so much civility talk is actually making the problem worse.
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似乎很多礼貌性的交谈 其实上是火上浇油。
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It's saving us the trouble of actually speaking to each other,
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它让我们省了彼此切实交谈的麻烦,
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allowing us to speak past each other or at each other
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让我们不跟谁交谈,又跟谁交谈,
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while signaling our superior virtue
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同时显示了我们优雅的美德,
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and letting the audience know which side we're on.
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并让观众知道我们站哪边。
09:51
And given this, I think one might be forgiven, as I did,
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考虑到这一点,我认为 有人可能会被原谅,就如我做的,
09:55
for assuming that because so much civility talk is bullshit,
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因为这么多客套话都是废话,
09:58
well then, the virtue of civility must be bullshit, too.
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那么,礼貌的美德也是胡扯。
10:02
But here, again, I think a little historical perspective goes a long way.
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但再次声明,我认为一个小小的 历史视角要走很长的路。
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Because remember, the same early modern crisis of civility
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因为要记住,同样是 早期的现代礼貌危机
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that launched the Reformation
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引发了宗教改革,
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also gave birth to tolerant societies,
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也孕育了宽容的社会,
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places like Rhode Island, Pennsylvania,
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比如宾夕法尼亚州的罗德岛,
10:17
and indeed, eventually the United States,
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的确,最终轮到了美国,
10:19
places that at least aspired to protect disagreement
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那些至少希望保护分歧
10:24
as well as diversity,
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和多样性的地方,
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and what made that possible was the virtue of civility.
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让这一切成为可能的是礼貌的美德。
10:33
What made disagreement tolerable,
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让分歧变得可以容忍,
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what it made it possible for us to share a life,
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让我们能够共享生活,
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even when we didn't share a faith,
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即使我们没有共同信仰的
10:40
was a virtue,
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是美德,
10:42
but one, I think, that is perhaps less aspirational
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但这种美德,在我看来 跟今天那些经常谈论礼貌的人
10:45
and a lot more confrontational
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所想的那种方式相比,
10:47
than the one that people who talk about civility a lot today
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可能没有那么令人振奋,
10:51
tend to have in mind.
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也更具对抗性。
10:52
So I like to call that virtue "mere civility."
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所以我喜欢称这种美德为 纯粹的礼貌。
10:57
You may know it as the virtue that allows us to get through
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你可能知道, 正是这种美德让我们可以接受
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our relations with an ex-spouse,
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我们与前配偶
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or a bad neighbor,
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或一位坏邻居相处下去,
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not to mention a member of the other party.
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更不用说另一个党派的成员。
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Because to be merely civil is to meet a low bar grudgingly,
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因为纯粹的礼貌 只是达到了一个低的门槛,
11:14
and that, again, makes sense,
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这很合理,
11:15
because civility is a virtue that's meant to help us disagree,
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因为礼貌是一种美德, 它能帮助我们提出异议,
11:19
and as Hobbes told us all those centuries ago,
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正如霍布斯在几个世纪前 告诉我们的那样。
11:22
disagreeable means unpleasant for a reason.
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不友好意味着不愉快是有原因的。
11:28
But if it isn't bullshit, what exactly is civility or mere civility?
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但如果这不是屁话,那么究竟什么 是礼貌或纯粹礼貌呢?
11:33
What does it require?
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它要求什么?
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Well, to start, it is not and cannot be
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首先,它不是,也不能
11:40
the same thing as being respectful or polite,
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等同于尊重或客气,
11:43
because we need civility precisely when we're dealing with those people
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因为当我们与那些我们觉得最难、
11:47
that we find it the most difficult, or maybe even impossible, to respect.
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甚至不可能尊重的人打交道时, 我们需要的正是礼貌。
11:52
Similarly, being civil can't be the same as being nice,
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同样,礼貌也不能等同于好好先生,
11:55
because being nice means not telling people what you really think about them
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因为好好先生等于不告诉别人 你对他们错误的观点
12:01
or their wrong, wrong views.
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的真正的想法。
12:04
No, being civil means speaking your mind,
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不是,礼貌就是说出你的想法,
12:10
but to your opponent's face,
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但要在反对者面前,
12:13
not behind her back.
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而非在背后。
12:16
Being merely civil means not pulling our punches,
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纯粹礼貌不是撸起拳头,
12:20
but at the same time, it means maybe not landing all those punches all at once,
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但同时,也不意味着 一下子打完所有这些拳头,
12:24
because the point of mere civility
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因为纯粹礼貌的意义在于
12:27
is to allow us to disagree, to disagree fundamentally,
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允许我们从根本上不同意,
12:31
but to do so without denying or destroying the possibility of a common life tomorrow
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但同时也不拒绝或破坏明天与那些
12:37
with the people that we think are standing in our way today.
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挡我们路的人共同生活的可能性,
12:42
And in that sense, I think civility is actually closely related
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从这个意义上说,我认为礼貌实际上
12:45
to another virtue, the virtue of courage.
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与另一种美德密切相关,那就是勇气。
12:48
So mere civility is having the courage to make yourself disagreeable,
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纯粹的礼貌就意味着 有勇气让自己变得令人讨厌,
12:54
and to stay that way,
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并保持这种状态,
12:56
but to do so while staying in the room
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但这样做的同时,要留在原地,
13:00
and staying present to your opponents.
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并且要面对你的对手。
13:03
And it also means that, sometimes, calling bullshit on people's civility talk
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这也意味着,有时候把别人 礼貌性的谈话叫做屁话
13:08
is really the only civil thing to do.
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是唯一文明的行为。
13:11
At least that's what I think.
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至少我是这样认为的。
13:13
But look, if I've learned anything from studying the long history
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但是,如果说我在 研究 17 世纪漫长的
13:18
of religious tolerance in the 17th century, it's this:
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宗教容忍史中学到了什么,那就是:
13:21
if you're talking about civility as a way to avoid an argument,
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如果你说礼貌是 避免争吵的一种方法,
13:26
to isolate yourself in the more agreeable company
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让自己置身于那些惬意的
13:30
of the like-minded who already agree with you,
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同意你的观点的人的环境中,
13:34
if you find yourself never actually speaking to anyone
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如果你发现自己从没有切实跟
13:38
who really, truly, fundamentally disagrees with you,
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真正的,从骨子里,从根儿上 不同意你的人聊聊,
13:42
well, you're doing civility wrong.
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那么,你表达礼貌的方式就错了。
13:47
Thank you.
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谢谢。
13:48
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