Creativity builds nations | Muthoni Drummer Queen

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翻译人员: psjmz mz 校对人员: Yolanda Zhang
00:12
Between 2004 and 2008,
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在2004年到2008年,
00:15
I unsuccessfully tried to get into the Kenyan music industry.
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我试图进入肯尼亚 的音乐行业,但失败了。
00:19
But the recurring answer from producers
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制片人反复给我的答案是,
00:22
was I was not Kenyan enough.
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我不够肯尼亚人。
00:24
Meaning what?
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这是什么意思?
00:25
I didn't sing fully in the slang derivative of Kiswahili
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我不能完全用斯瓦希里语 的衍生俚语唱歌,
00:29
and I didn't sing enough party tracks,
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并且我唱的派对歌曲不够多,
00:31
so they said Kenyans wouldn't listen to a Kenyan who sounded like me.
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所以他们说肯尼亚人不会听 像我这样的肯尼亚人唱歌。
00:36
This idea of otherism,
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这种他者主义的观点,
00:38
the exclusion of a person
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是基于一个人对标准的偏离
00:39
based on their perceived deviation from the norms,
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而将其隔离在外,
00:42
goes to the root of the problems in Kenya.
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是肯尼亚问题的根源,
00:45
And it runs deep.
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并且这一现象影响深远。
00:47
Kenya was invented by colonialists in 1895,
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1895年,肯尼亚诞生于 一群殖民者的巨鼎,
00:50
and with it, came the erasure of our identity
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随之而来的是,我们的身份被抹去,
00:53
and the class system built on otherism.
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同时出现了建立在他者主义 基础上的阶级制度。
00:56
So by 1963, when we received our independence,
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所以到1963年,当我们获得独立时,
00:59
these ideas had already become the new normal.
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这些思想已经变成了新的共识。
01:02
Now, we've tried a lot of different ways to move forward since.
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目前,我们已经尝试了 许多不同的方式来发展。
01:05
We have a common language, currency, infrastructure,
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我们有共同的语言, 货币,基础设施,
01:08
basically all the things that make a country a country.
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几乎所有让国家像国家的东西。
01:11
But all these efforts at nation-building
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但这些国家建设的努力
01:14
do not go to the heart of the matter.
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并没有触及问题的核心。
01:16
Which is this:
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那就是:
01:17
we cannot build what we do not truly love.
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我们无法建造我们 不真正热爱的东西。
01:20
And we cannot love until we love ourselves.
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我们无法去爱,除非我们爱自己。
01:24
The thing we have to heal, us Kenyans,
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我们肯尼亚人必须去治愈的,
01:26
is our lack of self-love,
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是自爱的缺失,
01:28
our deep self-hate
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我们深处的自恨
01:30
and our existential identity crisis.
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和我们存在的身份危机。
01:33
And this is the work of nation-building
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这是只有创意产业
01:36
that only the creative industry can do.
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才能完成的国家建设工作。
01:40
The idea that Kenya can only include some of us
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肯尼亚只能包括部分人的想法
01:43
led me to found a music festival in 2008 called Blankets and Wine,
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启发我在2008年创办了一个名为 “布兰克斯特和葡萄酒”的音乐节,
01:47
to give a platform to myself and other misfits.
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旨在为自己和其他“不合群”的人 提供一个平台。
01:50
Ten years later, we've programmed over 200 bands
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在之后的10年,我们上演了 200多个乐队的节目,
01:53
and put at least 100,000 dollars
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并直接投入了至少10万美元
01:55
directly into the hands of artists and managers,
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到艺术家和管理者的手中,
01:58
who have in turn spent it on technicians, rehearsals,
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他们会把钱花在技术人员、排练、
02:01
music videos and other things along the music value chain.
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音乐视频和其他 音乐价值链的事情上。
02:05
Our platform has allowed for multiple Kenyan identities to exist,
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我们的平台能够让多元化 的肯尼亚人身份存在,
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while inspiring the industry to discover and engage
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激发行业去发现和参与
02:12
the wide variety of Kenyan music.
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肯尼亚音乐的多样性。
02:15
What we do is necessary but insufficient.
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我们的做法是必要的,但还不够。
02:18
And we must urgently pivot into a live music circuit.
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我们必须尽快转向音乐现场循环。
02:21
But there are other ways music can help heal the nation.
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但音乐也可以通过其他方式 来帮助治愈国家。
02:26
According to a 2018 state of media report,
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据2018年《国家媒体报》报道,
02:29
traditional radio is sill by far the biggest distributor of ideas in Kenya,
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传统电台目前仍然是肯尼亚 最大的思想传播渠道,
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with 47 percent of Kenyans still choosing radio first.
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47%的肯尼亚人仍然首选电台。
02:37
This presents an opportunity.
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这代表着一个机会。
02:39
We can use radio to help Kenyans hear the diversity that is Kenya.
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我们可以使用电台来帮助 肯尼亚人了解肯尼亚的多样性。
02:43
We can reserve 60 percent of all programing on Kenyan radio
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我们可以将肯尼亚电台 所有节目的60%
02:47
for Kenyan music.
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保留给肯尼亚音乐。
02:49
We can break down ethnic barriers
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我们可以通过
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by playing Kenyan music done in English, Kiswahili
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在单一语言的民族电台上 播放用英语、斯瓦希里语
02:53
and other ethnic languages,
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和其他少数民族语言演奏
02:55
on what is now single-language ethnic radio.
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的肯尼亚音乐打破种族的界限。
02:59
Radio can help stimulate interest and demand
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电台可以帮助激发人们 对肯尼亚人制作的音乐
03:02
for Kenyan music by Kenyans,
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的兴趣和需求,
03:05
while also providing the much-needed incomes
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同时提供急需的
03:07
by way of royalties.
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版税收入。
03:09
But more importantly,
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但更加重要的是,
03:11
radio can help us build a more inclusive narrative about Kenya.
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广播可以帮助我们建立一个 更包容的关于肯尼亚的故事,
03:15
For you cannot love what you do not know exists.
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那些你不知道所以不会爱的东西。
03:19
Other creative industries too can do the work.
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其他创意行业也可以 承担这个工作。
03:22
When you consider that 41 percent of Kenyans
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当你考虑到41%的肯尼亚人
03:24
still choose TV as their primary medium,
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仍然选择电视作为他们的主要媒体,
03:27
it's obvious that film has a huge potential.
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很显然,电影具有巨大的潜力。
03:30
The meager resources that have been put into the sector
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投入这个行业的微薄资源
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have already produced world-class acts,
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已经产生了世界级的表演,
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like Lupita Nyong'o and Wanuri Kahiu,
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比如露皮塔·尼永奥(肯尼亚著名女演员) 和瓦努里·卡休(肯尼亚著名女导演),
03:37
but we are going to need a lot more incentives and investments
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但我们需要更多的激励和投资
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to make filming in Kenya easier,
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让在肯尼亚进行 拍摄工作变得更容易,
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so more Kenyan stories can get on the Kenyan TV
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这样更多的肯尼亚故事 能够被搬上荧幕,
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and spark off the really difficult conversations
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并引发我们之间所需要的
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we need to have with one another.
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真正困难的对话。
03:51
We're going to need to grow a lot more home-grown stars,
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我们需要培养更多本地的明星,
03:55
so we can reverse the idea
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这样我们就能够扭转
03:57
that we have to blow up abroad
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在得到国内的接受和认可之前,
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before we get the acceptance and validation of home.
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我们必须在国外取得成功这一观念。
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Fashion too can do the work.
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时尚行业也可以起到类似的作用。
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We need to make it possible
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我们需要让为肯尼亚消费者
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to affordably mass-produce Kenyan clothes for Kenyan consumers,
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提供批量生产的 廉价肯尼亚服装成为可能,
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so we don't all have to rely on second-hand imports.
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这样我们就不需要依赖 二手的进口服装。
04:15
The first running shoe made in Kenya
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首个在肯尼亚制作的跑步鞋
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needs to be a local and global success
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需要在国内和国际获得成功
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as an ode to Kenyan excellence,
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以歌颂肯尼亚的卓越,
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epitomized by Kenyan runners, who are literally world-class.
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代表人物是肯尼亚的跑步者, 他们确实是世界级的。
04:26
For these ideas to come to life,
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如果这些想法变成现实,
04:29
jobs will be created,
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更多的工作将会被创造出来,
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and Kenyan ideas will be exported.
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肯尼亚的创意会被输出到全世界。
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But more importantly,
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但更重要的,
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Kenyans may finally consider themselves worthy
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肯尼亚人最终会认为他们自己值得
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of the love that we reserve for others.
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我们为他人保留的爱。
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Kenya's creative industry is dynamic,
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肯尼亚的创意产业充满活力,
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cosmopolitan, forward-looking,
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是世界性的,前瞻性的,
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and without a doubt,
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并且毫无疑问,
04:48
a true manufacturing industry of the immediate future.
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不久的将来将成为 一个真正的制造业。
04:52
But its true power lies in its ability to help heal the psyche of Kenya,
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但它的真正力量在于它能帮助 治愈肯尼亚人心灵的能力,
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so we can finally build a nation for real.
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这样我们才能最终 建立一个真正的国家。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
05:03
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
05:08
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
05:11
For this song, I'd like us all to take a minute
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这首歌,我想让大家花1分钟
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and think about immigrant communities,
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去想象移民群体,
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and especially refugee immigrant communities,
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尤其是难民移民群体,
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and the daily struggle they have to endure,
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他们每天必须忍受的挣扎,
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building a life with dignity and meaning
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远离他们所爱所知的一切,
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away from everything they have loved and known.
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建立一种有尊严、有意义的生活。
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If you feel any empathy for this idea,
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如果你对他们感到同情,
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I ask to see your fist up in the air with me.
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我想要看到你们 和我一起高举拳头。
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(Music)
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(音乐)
05:34
"Million voice."
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“百万个声音”。
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The mandem make some noise
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人们发出声音。
05:39
With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
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All the mandem make some noise
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所有人的声音,
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With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
05:49
Can't stop I, won't stop I
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无法停止,我无法停止。
05:52
With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
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Can't stop I, won't stop I
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无法停止,我无法停止。
05:58
With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
06:01
This one dedicated to my people building something
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这是献给我的人民建设的东西,
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Working hard to make sure that their children will lack for nothing
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努力工作确保孩子丰衣足食。
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When them people come around and treat them like they're basic
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当他们来的时候,人们像对待 基本的东西一样对待他们。
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I just want to LOL and tell them to consider all their options
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我只是想笑一笑,告诉他们 考虑一下他们所有的选择。
06:15
Caution, natural distortion
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小心,自然扭曲。
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You can't even kill us we survive even abortion
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你甚至不能杀我们, 即使堕胎我们也活了下来。
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Say we cannot make it, watch us how we make it
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说我们做不到,看我们如何做到。
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Watch us in a minute come and run and overtake it
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看着我们马上跑过来,占领它。
06:27
TED, clap!
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TED,拍手!
06:28
Can't have enough of it
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这样还不够。
06:32
This our only way of life
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这是我们唯一的生活方式。
06:35
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
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TED, will you clap like this.
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TED,你会这样拍手吗?
06:41
Can't have enough of it
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这样还不够。
06:45
This our only way of life
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这是我们唯一的生活方式。
06:48
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
06:51
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
06:53
The mandem make some noise
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人们发出声音。
06:56
Like a million, million voice
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像数百万,数百万人的声音。
06:59
All the mandem make some noise
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所有人发出声音,
07:02
With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
07:06
Can't stop I, won't stop I
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无法停止,我无法停止。
07:09
With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
07:12
Can't stop I, won't stop I
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无法停止,我无法停止。
07:15
With a million, million voice
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数百万,数百万人的声音。
07:19
Can I be your leader
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我可以做你的领袖吗?
07:20
Can I be your Caesar
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我可以做你的凯撒吗?
07:22
If I show you how to make some more will you pledge allegiance
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如果我告诉你如何做更多, 你会宣誓效忠吗?
07:25
Is it always either
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总是这样吗?
07:27
Me or you or neither
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是你,是我,或两者皆不?
07:28
If I show you where I'm coming from, will you take a breather?
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如果我告诉你我来自哪里, 你能休息一下吗?
07:31
Cos what you'll find -- what you'll find
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因为你会发现,你会发现,
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What you'll find guarantee will blow your mind!
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你发现的保证会让你大吃一惊!
07:38
I'll blow your mind -- I'll blow your mind
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我会让你大吃一惊—— 我会让你大吃一惊。
07:41
And then you'll see the reason I stay on my grind
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然后你就会看到我努力的理由。
07:44
Would you clap!
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你会拍手吗!
07:45
Can't have enough of it
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这还不够。
07:48
It's our only way of life
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这是我们唯一的生活方式。
07:52
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
07:55
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
07:58
Can't have enough of it
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这还不够。
08:01
It's our only way of life
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这是我们唯一的生活方式。
08:04
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
08:08
Keeping, keeping on the grind
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继续,继续努力。
08:10
The mandem make some noise
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人们发出声音。
08:13
(Cheering)
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(欢呼)
08:18
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
08:24
This next one is partly in Kiswahili,
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下一个部分是基斯瓦希里语,
08:28
which is what we speak in Kenya.
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是我们在肯尼亚的语言。
08:30
And it's about female friendship
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它是关于女性友情
08:33
and female power.
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和女性力量。
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And girls coming together to build something that lasts,
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女孩们聚在一起创造永恒的东西,
08:38
a true legacy and intergenerational worth.
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真正的遗产和代际价值。
08:41
"Suzie Noma."
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"苏西诺玛。"
08:44
(Drum music)
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(鼓声)
08:50
Sitting at the corner
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坐在角落里,
08:52
Me and Suzie Noma
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苏西诺玛和我。
08:53
We ain't got no worries we are looking like the owners
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我们无忧无虑, 看起来就像老板一样,
08:56
Sipping on Coronas
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啜饮叶子,
08:58
Looking at the phone as
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看着手机,就像
08:59
All them pretty boys come and tell us how they want us
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所有的漂亮男孩都来告诉我们 他们想要我们那样。
09:02
Mambo ni kungoja, aki mtangoja
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Mambo ni kungoja, aki mtangoja。
09:05
Sinaga matime za kuwaste na vioja
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Sinaga matime za kuwaste na vioja。
09:08
Planning how we want to take over the world soon
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计划着我们要如何 尽快接管这个世界。
09:11
Riding on the drums and the clap while the bass goes
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踏着鼓声拍手,低音轰鸣。
09:15
Hey! Shake it down shake it down like
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嘿!尽情摇摆,尽情摇摆。
09:18
Wait till you, wait till you see my
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等你,等你看我的。
09:21
Hey! Shake it down shake it down like
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嘿!尽情摇摆,尽情摇摆。
09:24
Wait till you, wait till you see my
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等你,等你看我的。
09:28
If you really know it and you really wanna show it
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如果你真的知道, 如果你真想表现出来,
09:30
Be the way to go
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按正确的方法去做。
09:34
Go and grab somebody, move your body, show somebody
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去抓住某个人,摆动你的身体, 展示给别人看,
09:36
Be the way to go
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按正确的方法去做。
09:40
On this I know, all this I know, all this I know
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我知道这一切,我知道这一切, 我知道这一切。
09:46
On this I know, all this I know, all this I know
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我知道这一切,我知道这一切, 我知道这一切。
09:51
Iyo!
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Iyo!
09:53
Scheming at the corner
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在角落里密谋诡计,
09:55
Me and Suzie Noma
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苏西诺玛和我。
09:56
We ain't got no money but we do it how we wanna
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我们没有钱,但我们 想怎么做就怎么做。
09:59
Painting our nails checking our mails as
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修饰我们的指甲, 检查我们的邮件,
10:02
All them pretty boys wanna have us but they fail like
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所有漂亮的男孩都想要我们, 但是他们失败了。
10:05
Aki mtangoja, leo mtangoja
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Aki mtangoja, leo mtangoja。
10:08
Saa hii tukoworks hakunaga za vioja
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Saa hii tukoworks hakunaga za vioja。
10:11
Planning how we want to take over the world soon
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计划着我们要如何尽快接管这个世界。
10:14
Riding on the drums and the clap while the bass goes boom
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踏着鼓声拍手,低音轰鸣。
10:18
Shake it down shake it down like
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2643
尽情摇摆,尽情摇摆。
10:21
Wait till you, wait till you see my
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等你,等你看我的。
10:24
Hey! Shake it down shake it down like
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尽情摇摆,尽情摇摆。
10:27
Wait till you, wait till you see my
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等你,等你看我的。
10:31
If you really know it and you really wanna show it
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如果你真的知道, 如果你真想表现出来,
10:33
Be the way to go
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按正确的方法去做。
10:37
Go and grab somebody, move your body, show somebody
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去抓住某个人,移动你的身体, 展示给别人看,
10:39
Be the way to go
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按正确的方法去做。
10:43
On this I know, all this I know, all this I know
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5000
我知道这一切,我知道这一切, 我知道这一切。
10:49
On this I know, all this I know, all this I know
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我知道这一切,我知道这一切, 我知道这一切。
10:55
And now you whine your waist
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现在扭动你的腰肢,
10:58
And now you screw your face
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现在轻捏你的脸。
11:01
Exaggerate your waist
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快速扭动你的腰。
11:04
Resuscitate the place
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让这个地方复苏。
11:07
Na wale wako fifty fifty comsi
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Na wale wako fifty fifty comsi。
11:10
Na wale wako fiti pia sisi
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Na wale wako fiti pia sisi。
11:13
Tuko tu sawa mdogo mdogo yaani
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Tuko tu sawa mdogo mdogo yaani。
11:16
Hallelu-yawa tumeiva design
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Hallelu-yawa tumeiva design。
11:19
If you really know it, and you really wanna show it
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如果你真的知道, 如果你真想表现出来,
11:21
Be the way to go
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3351
按正确的方法去做。
11:25
Go and grab somebody, move your body, show somebody
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去抓住某个人,移动你的身体, 展示给别人看,
11:27
Be the way to go
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3934
按正确的方法去做。
11:31
On this I know, all this I know, all this I know
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5976
我知道这一切,我知道这一切, 我知道这一切。
11:37
On this I know, all this I know, all this I know
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我知道这一切,我知道这一切, 我知道这一切。
11:42
Iyo!
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Iyo!
11:45
(Cheering)
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(欢呼)
11:48
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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