Kasiva Mutua: How I use the drum to tell my story | TED

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翻译人员: Yancheng Du 校对人员: Peipei Xiang
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"Listen.
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“仔细听。
00:14
Do you hear that?"
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你听见了吗?”
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my grandmother asked me.
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我的祖母问我。
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"Listen.
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“仔细听。
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Listen to what the beetle is saying."
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听蜣螂在说什么。”
00:24
I would spend hours and hours listening to the little beetle
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我会花上许多个小时 去听小小的蜣螂
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rolling a huge ball of dung,
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滚动大大的粪球,
00:31
and while at it,
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与此同时,
00:33
I heard a variety of environmental sounds.
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我听到了各种各样环境的声响。
00:36
With the keenest of ears, I would hear family chatter,
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用耳朵最敏锐的部分, 我会听到家人的交谈,
00:41
laughter,
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笑声,
00:43
the wind howling
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风的呼啸,
00:44
and even crickets chirping.
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甚至是蟋蟀的鸣叫。
00:47
All these sounds crisscrossed into each other,
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所有这些声音交错在一起,
00:50
and I would hear rhythm in between.
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我能听到其中的节奏。
00:53
Then I would beat my plate with a spoon and my chest with my tiny hands
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然后我会用勺子敲击盘子, 用我的小手敲击胸脯。
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trying to recreate what I was hearing.
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试图再现我所听到的节奏。
01:01
I have been beating the same plates,
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从那时起,我开始敲击盘子,
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shakers, drums, pans and so much more ever since
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沙锤,鼓,平底锅和其他许多东西,
01:09
to become a professional drummer
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试着成为一个专业的鼓手
01:11
and percussionist.
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和打击乐手。
01:13
(Applause)
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(掌声)
01:18
As I grew up, subconsciously,
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随着我渐渐长大, 潜意识里我感受到了
01:20
I felt a strong urge to hide my newfound hobby.
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一种强烈的冲动 促使我隐藏新的爱好。
01:25
Even without it being said out loud,
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即使没有大声说出来,
01:27
I knew that somehow it was wrong to do what I was doing.
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我也知道我做的好像是错的。
01:32
In most of the ceremonies,
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在大多数仪式上,
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I noticed that most of the women and girls were not in sight,
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我注意到很少有女人和女孩的身影。
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but when they were,
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但当她们出现时,
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I noticed that they would wear their dancing skirts
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我发现她们会穿着她们跳舞的裙子,
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and shake their waists off,
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扭动着她们的腰,
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singing, clapping, ululating,
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唱歌,拍手,叫喊,
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while the men filled up the rhythm section.
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而男人会补上节奏的部分。
01:52
A few years later, I came to understand
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几年后,我开始理解
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what tradition and culture meant,
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传统和文化意味着什么,
01:58
and what was considered taboo
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以及哪些事情是忌讳的,
02:00
or otherwise.
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哪些不是。
02:03
In the majority of African cultures,
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在大多数非洲文化中,
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women have been forbidden to play drums and percussion
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很长一段时间里, 女性都被禁止演奏
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for a very long time.
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鼓和打击乐器。
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I believe this taboo stems from the psychological and traditional belief
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我相信这种禁忌来源于, 在心理上和传统观念里,
女性被当做劣等的存在。
02:17
that the woman is an inferior being.
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02:20
I grew up hearing that the place of the woman is in the kitchen
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我从小长大听到的都是, 女人应该在厨房里
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or in the other room.
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或者是“那个”房间。
02:28
Mhm?
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没错。
02:29
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:32
Women had been brainwashed and led on for so long
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长久以来,女性被洗脑和引导
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until we had fallen victim and actually started believing in this ourselves.
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直到我们成为受害者, 并且我们自己也开始相信这些。
02:41
This, coupled with the lack of interest to educate women,
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再加上女性教育的缺乏,
02:45
played a major, major role
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这种观念被深深植入了
我们的脑海。
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in etching this into our minds.
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The sounds of the drum provoke emotion and movement.
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鼓的声音让你的情感和身体 都不由自主地动起来。
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Essentially, the drum is a very sensual instrument.
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实质上,鼓是一种撩人的乐器。
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Once at a festival, a man asked me
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在一次节日庆典中,一个男人问我,
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how I dared put a drum in between my legs.
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我怎么敢把鼓放在我的双腿之间。
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I have been considered loose and dirty for playing an instrument.
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因为演奏这个乐器, 我被看成是放荡的,肮脏的。
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I have repeatedly been questioned
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不断地有人问我,
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why I would choose to play drums
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为什么我选择演奏鼓
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instead of practicing journalism,
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而不是从事新闻行业,
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which I studied for my undergraduate,
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也就是我本科学习的专业,
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which has been termed "more decent."
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那被称为“更加正经”。
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The sight of a woman playing drums enfeebles her,
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一个女性演奏鼓会使她变得弱势,
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makes her less feminine,
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让她不再像女性,
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less desirable,
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不再有魅力,
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but all this optimally puts her on a lower social stand.
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但这些最终都会 降低她的社会地位。
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Drumming has essentially represented the strong African heritage,
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演奏鼓本质上代表的是 非洲根深蒂固的传统,
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and its importance can be seen
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它的重要性
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in the many aspects of the African tradition.
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体现在非洲传统的很多方面。
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Many communities encompass drumming in their day-to-day activities,
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很多族群在日常生活中都使用鼓,
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and still do up to date,
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现在也还是这么做,
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from childbirths to initiation ceremonies,
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从孩子的出生到成人仪式,
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welcoming ceremonies,
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欢迎仪式,
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marriages and even burials.
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婚姻,甚至是葬礼。
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However, this same drum
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然而,同样的鼓
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is disappearing very fast from the music scene,
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正非常快速地从音乐领域中消失,
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and the traditional genre is losing its popularity
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并且传统的流派正快速失去
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very quickly amongst the people.
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人们的喜爱。
04:15
Inspired by the need to preserve this culture,
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保护这种文化的需求启发了我,
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I am teaching the significance and the importance of the drum
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我开始教导年轻的男孩, 女性和女孩,
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to young boys, women and girls.
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鼓的重要性和意义。
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In my journey as a percussion teacher,
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在我作为打击乐教师的旅程中,
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I have realized that very many women
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我意识到很多的女性
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actually want to play the drum,
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其实是想演奏鼓的,
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but at the same time,
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但同时,
04:34
they fear it.
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她们害怕。
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Some fear how society will perceive them.
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有些害怕社会将如何看待她们,
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Others fear the physical pain that comes with playing.
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另一些则害怕演奏带来 的生理上的疼痛。
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Oh yes, it's not that easy.
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是的,演奏鼓并不容易。
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Some, because their spouses don't approve of them,
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有些,因为她们的丈夫不支持,
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and others generally fear the responsibility
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而另一些则害怕承担成为
文化传播者的责任。
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of being a bearer of culture.
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I believe, or I think that all these fears
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我认为这些畏惧
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are etched in the collective feminine cautiousness
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根植于女性的集体意识中,
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because when we learn of the atrocities that have happened to women,
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因为当我们了解到 施加在女性身上的暴行时,
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continentally especially,
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特别是在这个大陆,
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it serves as a constant reminder
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它不断地提醒我们,
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that one step out of our designated place
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如果我们跨越界限,
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may end up in very serious consequences.
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就会有非常严重的后果。
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Well, I use my drum to tell my story and my people's stories.
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我用我的鼓来述说我的故事 和我的族群的故事,
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My roots shaped me and my culture is here to stay with me.
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我生根发芽的地方塑造了我, 我的文化与我同在。
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Women can be custodians of culture, too.
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女性也能成为文化的守护者。
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We are born to bring forth life,
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我们天生能孕育生命,
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to nurture it.
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哺育生命。
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We can definitely preserve our traditions very, very excellently.
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我们一定能非常出色地 保护我们的传统。
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My drum and I,
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我和我的鼓,
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we are here to stay.
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我们会一直在这里。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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We are definitely here to stay.
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我们肯定会一直在这里。
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If women have led countries,
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如果女性领导过国家,
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women have gone to space,
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女性奔赴过太空,
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women have won Grammys,
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女性获得过格莱美奖,
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then the same, same women can play the drum
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那么同样的女性就可以演奏鼓,
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and play it -- to a five-star rating?
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并得到一个五星的评价?
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No, to a million-star rating.
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不,得到百万星的评价。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
06:16
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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(Chiming)
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(风铃声)
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(Metallic drumming)
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(钹声)
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(Chiming)
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(风铃声)
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(Rattling)
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(沙铃声)
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(Drumming)
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(鼓声)
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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