How motivation can fix public systems | Abhishek Gopalka

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Kristina Radosavljević
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Take a minute
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Hajde na trenutak
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and think of yourself as the leader of a country.
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zamislite da ste vođa neke zemlje.
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And let's say one of your biggest priorities
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I recimo da je jedan od vaših najvećih prioriteta
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is to provide your citizens with high-quality healthcare.
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da svojim građanima pružite visokokvalitetnu zdravstvenu zaštitu.
00:26
How would you go about it?
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Kako biste to uradili?
00:27
Build more hospitals?
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Da li biste izgradili više bolnica?
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Open more medical colleges?
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Otvorili više medicinskih fakulteta?
00:31
Invest in clinical innovation?
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Ulagali u kliničke inovacije?
00:35
But what if your country's health system was fundamentally broken?
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Ali šta ako je zdravstveni sistem u vašoj zemlji suštinski poremećen?
00:39
Whether it's doctor absenteeism,
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Bilo da se radi o odsustvu lekara,
00:41
drug stock-outs or poor quality of care.
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nedostatku lekova ili lošem kvalitetu nege.
00:45
Where would you start then?
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Odakle biste počeli?
00:48
I'm a management consultant,
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Ja sam konsultant u menadžmentu,
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and for the last three years,
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i protekle tri godine
00:52
I've been working on a project
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radim na projektu
00:54
to improve the public heath system of Rajasthan,
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poboljšanja sistema javnog zdravlja u Radžastanu,
00:57
a state in India.
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državi u Indiji.
01:00
And during the course of the project,
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Za vreme trajanja ovog projekta,
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we actually discovered something profound.
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otkrili smo nešto vrlo značajno.
01:06
More doctors, better facilities, clinical innovation --
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Veći broj doktora, bolje ustanove, kliničke inovacije -
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they are all important.
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sve to je bitno.
01:13
But nothing changes without one key ingredient.
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Ali ništa se ne menja bez jednog ključnog sastojka.
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Motivation.
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Motivacije.
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But motivation is a tricky thing.
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Ali motivacija je nezgodna stvar.
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If you've led a team, raised a child or tried to change a personal habit,
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Ako ste predvodili tim, odgajali dete ili pokušali da promenite ličnu naviku,
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you know that motivation doesn't just appear.
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znate da se motivacija ne javlja tek tako.
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Something has to change to make you care.
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Nešto mora da se promeni da bi vas nateralo da vam bude stalo.
01:37
And if there's one thing that all of us humans care about,
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A ako postoji nešto do čega je nama ljudima stalo,
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it's an inherent desire to shine in front of society.
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to je urođena želja da zablistamo pred društvom.
01:47
So that's exactly what we did.
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Zato smo upravo to uradili.
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We decided to focus on the citizen:
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Rešili smo da se fokusiramo na građane:
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the people who the system was supposed to serve in the first place.
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ljude kojima je sistem prvenstveno namenjen da služi.
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And today, I'd like to tell you
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Danas bih hteo da vam ispričam
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how Rajasthan has transformed its public health system dramatically
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kako je Radžastan drastično transformisao svoj sistem javnog zdravlja
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by using the citizen to trigger motivation.
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tako što je iskoristio građane da podstakne motivaciju.
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Now, Rajasthan is one of India's largest states,
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Danas je Radžastan jedna od najvećih država Indije,
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with a population of nearly 80 million.
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sa populacijom od skoro 80 miliona.
02:20
That's larger than the United Kingdom.
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To je više nego u Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu.
02:24
But the similarities probably end there.
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Ali tu verovatno svaka sličnost prestaje.
02:28
In 2016, when my team was called in
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Godine 2016, kada su moj tim pozvali
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to start working with the public health system of Rajasthan,
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da počne da radi na sistemu javnog zdravlja u Radžastanu,
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we found it in a state of crisis.
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našli smo ga u stanju krize.
02:39
For example, the neonatal mortality rate --
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Na primer, stopa neonatalnog mortaliteta -
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that's the number of newborns who die before their first month birthday --
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to je broj novorođenčadi koja umre pre nego što napuni mesec dana -
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was 10 times higher than that of the UK.
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bila je 10 puta veća nego u UK.
02:53
No wonder then that citizens were saying,
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Nije ni čudo što su građani govorili:
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"Hey, I don't want to go to a public health facility."
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„Hej, neću da idem u zdravstvenu ustanovu.“
02:58
In India, if you wanted to see a doctor in a public health facility,
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U Indiji, ako biste hteli da odete kod lekara u ustanovi javnog zdravlja,
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you would go to a "PHC," or "primary health center."
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išli biste u „PZC“ ili „primarni zdravstveni centar“.
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And at least 40 patients are expected to go to a PHC every day.
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Predviđeno je da najmanje 40 pacijenata svakoga dana dolazi u PZC.
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But in Rajasthan, only one out of four PHCs
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Ali u Radžastanu samo jedan od četiri PZC-a
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was seeing this minimum number of patients.
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primi taj minimalni broj pacijenata.
03:21
In other words, people had lost faith in the system.
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Drugim rečima, ljudi su izgubili veru u sistem.
03:27
When we delved deeper,
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Kada smo zašli dublje,
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we realized that lack of accountability is at the core of it.
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shvatili smo da je nedostatak odgovornosti u srži svega toga.
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Picture this.
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Zamislite ovo.
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Sudha, a daily-wage earner,
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Sudha, nadničarka,
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realizes that her one-year-old daughter
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shvata da njena godinu dana stara ćerka
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is suffering from uncontrollable dysentery.
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boluje od uznapredovale dizenterije.
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So she decides to take the day off.
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Zato reši da uzme slobodan dan.
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That's a loss of about 350 rupees or five dollars.
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To je gubitak od oko 350 rupija ili pet dolara.
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And she picks up her daughter in her arms
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Podiže ćerku u naručje
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and walks for five kilometers to the government PHC.
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i pešači pet kilometara do državnog PZC-a.
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But the doctor isn't there.
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Ali doktor nije tamo.
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So she takes the next day off, again,
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Zato ona ponovo uzima slobodan dan
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and comes back to the PHC.
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i vraća se u PZC.
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This time, the doctor is there,
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Ovoga puta je doktor tu,
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but the pharmacist tells her
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ali joj farmaceut saopštava
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that the free drugs that she's entitled to have run out,
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da je nestalo besplatnih lekova na koje ona ima pravo,
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because they forgot to reorder them on time.
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jer su zaboravili da ih naruče na vreme.
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So now, she rushes to the private medical center,
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Tako ona sada juri u privatni medicinski centar,
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and as she's rushing there,
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i dok žuri tamo
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looking at her daughter's condition worsening with every passing hour,
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i gleda kako se stanje njene ćerke pogoršava sa svakim satom,
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she can't help but wonder
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ne može da se ne zapita
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if she should have gone to the private medical center
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da li je trebalo da odmah ode u privatni medicinski centar
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in the first place
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04:33
and payed the 350 rupees for the consultation and drugs.
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i plati 350 rupija za pregled i lekove.
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No one is held accountable for this incredible failure of the system.
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Niko ne snosi odgovornost za ovaj neverovatan neuspeh sistema.
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Costing time, money and heartache to Sudha.
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A to Sudhi oduzima vreme i novac i povređuje je.
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And this is something that just had to be fixed.
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To je prosto moralo da se popravi.
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Now, as all good consultants,
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Kao svi dobri konsultanti,
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we decided that data-driven reviews
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odlučili smo da prikazi zasnovani na podacima
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had to be the answer to improve accountability.
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moraju biti odgovor za poboljšanje odgovornosti.
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So we created these fancy performance dashboards
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Tako smo napravili sofisticirane table učinka
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to help make the review meetings of the health department
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kako bi inspekcijski sastanci odeljenja za zdravlje
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much more effective.
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postali mnogo efikasniji.
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But nothing changed.
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Ali ništa se nije promenilo.
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Discussion after discussion,
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Rasprava za raspravom,
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meeting after meeting,
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sastanak za sastankom,
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nothing changed.
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ništa se nije menjalo.
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And that's when it struck me.
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Tada mi je sinulo.
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You see, public systems
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Vidite, javnim sistemima
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have always been governed through internal mechanisms,
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se oduvek upravljalo kroz unutrašnje mehanizme
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like review meetings.
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kao što su inspekcijski sastanci.
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And over time,
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Vremenom,
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their accountability to the citizen has been diluted.
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njihova odgovornost prema građanima je oslabila.
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So why not bring the citizen back into the equation,
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Pa zašto ne bismo vratili građane u jednačinu,
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perhaps by using the citizen promises?
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možda pomoću obećanja građanima?
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Couldn't that trigger motivation?
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Zar to ne bi moglo da pokrene motivaciju?
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We started with what I like to call the coffee shop strategy.
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Počeli smo nečim što volim da zovem strategijom kafića.
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You've probably seen one of these signs in a coffee shop,
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Verovatno ste videli neki od ovih znakova u kafiću
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which says,
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koji kaže:
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"If you don't get your receipt, the coffee is free."
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„Ako ne dobijete račun, kafa je besplatna.“
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Now, the cashier has no option
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Sada kasir nema izbora
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but to give you a receipt each time.
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nego da vam svaki put da račun.
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So we took this strategy and applied it to Rajasthan.
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Uzeli smo tu strategiju i primenili je na Radžastan.
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We worked with the government
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Radili smo sa vladom
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on a program to revive 300 PHCs across the state,
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na programu oživljavanja 300 PZC-a širom zemlje,
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and we got them to paint very clear citizen promises along the wall.
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i rekli smo im da po zidu nacrtaju vrlo jasna obećanja građanima.
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"We assure you that you will have a doctor each time."
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„Uveravamo vas da će vas doktor primiti svaki put.“
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"We assure you that you will get your free drugs each time."
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„Uveravamo vas da ćete svaki put dobiti svoje besplatne lekove.“
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"We assure you
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„Uveravamo vas
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that you will get your free diagnostics each time."
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da ćete svaki put dobiti besplatno dijagnostikovanje.“
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And finally, we worked with elected representatives
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I najzad, radili smo sa izabranim predstavnicima
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to launch these revived PHCs,
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na pokretanju tih oživljenih PZC-a,
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who shared the citizen promises with the community
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a oni su pred zajednicom iznosili obećanja građanima
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with a lot of fanfare.
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uz mnogo pompe.
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Now, the promise was out there in the open.
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Sada je obećanje stajalo na otvorenom.
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Failure would be embarrassing.
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Neuspeh bi bio sramotan.
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The system had to start delivering.
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Sistem je morao da počne da ispunjava obećanja.
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And deliver it did.
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I tako je i bilo.
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Doctor availability went up,
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Doktori su bili više dostupni,
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medicines came on hand,
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lekovi su bili pri ruci,
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and as a result,
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i, kao rezultat toga,
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patient visits went up by 20 percent in less than a year.
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broj poseta pacijenata se povećao za 20 procenata za manje od jedne godine.
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The public health system was getting back into business.
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Sistem javnog zdravlja bio je ponovo u akciji.
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But there was still a long distance to go.
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Ali još je ostalo preći dug put.
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Change isn't that easy.
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Sprovesti promene nije tako lako.
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An exasperated doctor once told me,
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Jedan ogorčeni doktor mi je jednom rekao:
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"I really want to transform the maternal health in my community,
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„Zaista želim da transformišem zdravstvenu zaštitu majki u zajednici,
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but I just don't have enough nurses."
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ali prosto nemam dovoljno medicinskih sestara.“
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Now, resources like nurses
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Resurse kao što su medicinske sestre
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are actually controlled by administrative officers
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zapravo kontrolišu administrativni službenici
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who the doctors report to.
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kojima doktori podnose izveštaj.
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And while the doctors were now motivated,
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I mada su lekari sada bili motivisani,
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the administrative officers simply weren't motivated enough
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administrativni službenici jednostavno nisu bili dovoljno motivisani
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to help the doctors.
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da pomognu doktorima.
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This is where the head of the public health department,
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Ovde je šef odeljenja za javno zdravlje,
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Ms. Veenu Gupta, came up with a brilliant idea.
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gđica Vinu Gupta, došla na briljantnu ideju.
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A monthly ranking of all districts.
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Mesečno rangiranje svih okruga.
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And this ranking would assess the performance of every district
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A to rangiranje bi procenjivalo učinak svakog okruga
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on each major disease
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vezan za svako veće oboljenje
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and each major procedure.
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i svaku veću proceduru.
08:29
But here's the best part.
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Ali evo šta je najbolji deo.
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We made the ranking go public.
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Rangiranja su javno objavljivana.
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We put the ranking on the website,
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Okačili smo rangiranja na veb-sajt,
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we put the ranking on social media,
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stavili ih na društvene mreže,
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and before you knew it, the media got involved,
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i za tren oka su se angažovali mediji
08:41
with newspaper articles on which districts were doing well
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sa novinskim člancima o tome kojim okruzima ide dobro,
08:44
and which ones weren't.
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a kojima ne.
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And we didn't just want the rankings
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Nismo samo hteli da rangiranja
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to impact the best- and the worst-performing districts.
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utiču na okruge sa najboljim i najgorim učinkom.
08:52
We wanted the rankings to motivate every district.
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Želeli smo da rangiranja motivišu svaki okrug.
08:57
So we took inspiration from soccer leagues,
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Zato smo preuzeli inspiraciju od fudbalskih liga
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and created a three-tiered ranking system,
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i napravili sistem rangiranja sa tri nivoa,
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whereby every quarter,
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pri čemu biste svakog kvartala,
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if a district's performance were to decline,
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ako se smanji učinak okruga,
09:09
you could get relegated to the lower tier.
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mogli da padnete na niži nivo.
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But if the district's performance were to improve,
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Ali ako se učinak okruga poboljša,
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you could get promoted to the premiere league.
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možete biti unapređeni u premijer ligu.
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The rankings were a big success.
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Rangiranja su ostvarila veliki uspeh.
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It generated tremendous excitement,
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Stvorila su ogromno uzbuđenje,
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and districts began vying with each other to be known as exemplars.
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a okruzi su počeli da se međusobno nadmeću kako bi se utvrdili kao uzorni primeri.
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It's actually very simple, if you think about it.
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To je zapravo vrlo jednostavno, ako razmislite o tome.
09:33
If the performance data is only being reviewed by your manager
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Ako podatke o učinku pregleda samo vaš menadžer
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in internal settings,
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u internim uslovima,
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it simply isn't motivating enough.
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to jednostavno ne motiviše dovoljno.
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But if that data is out there,
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Ali ako su podaci o tome predstavljeni
09:46
in the open, for the community to see,
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na otvorenom, tako da zajednica može da ih vidi,
09:49
that's a very different picture.
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stvari su sasvim drugačije.
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That just unlocks a competitive spirit
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To oslobađa takmičarski duh
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which is inherent in each and every one of us.
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koji je urođen svima nama.
09:59
So now, when you put these two together,
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Kada spojite ta dva,
10:02
the coffee shop strategy and public competition,
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strategiju kafića i javno nadmetanje,
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you now had a public health system
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dobili ste sistem javnog zdravlja
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which was significantly more motivated to improve citizen health.
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koji je znatno motivisaniji da poboljša zdravlje građana.
10:15
And now that you had a more motivated health system,
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I sada kada imate motivisaniji sistem zdravstva,
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it was actually a system that was now much more ready for support.
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to zapravo postaje sistem koji je mnogo spremniji da pruži podršku.
10:23
Because now, there is a pull for the support,
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Jer sada postoji sila koja navodi na podršku,
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whether it's resources, data or skill building.
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bilo da se radi o resursima, podacima ili razvijanju veština.
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Let me share an example.
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Izneću jedan primer.
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I was once at a district meeting in the district of Ajmer.
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Jednom sam bio na okružnom sastanku okruga Adžmer.
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This is one of the districts that had been rising rapidly
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To je jedan od okruga koji je brzo napredovao
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in the rankings.
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na rang-listama.
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And there were a group of passionate doctors
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Tu je bila grupa strastvenih doktora
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who were discussing ideas on how to better support their teams.
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koji su razmatrali ideje o tome kako da bolje podrže svoje timove.
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One of the doctors had up-skilled health workers
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Jedan od lekara je dokvalifikovao zdravstvene radnike
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to tackle the problem of nurse shortages.
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da bi rešio problem nedostatka medicinskih sestara.
10:56
Another doctor was using WhatsApp in creative ways
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Drugi doktor je koristio Votsap na kreativne načine
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to share information and ideas with his frontline workers.
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da bi delio informacije i ideje sa svojim radnicima.
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For example,
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Na primer,
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where are the children who are missing from immunization?
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gde su deca koja su propustila vakcinaciju?
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And how do you convince the mothers
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I kako ubediti majke
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to actually bring their children for immunization?
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da dovedu decu na vakcinisanje?
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And because their teams were now significantly motivated,
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A pošto su njihovi timovi sada bili značajno motivisani,
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they were simply lapping up the support,
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prosto su jedva dočekali podršku,
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because they wanted to perform better and better.
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jer su hteli da postignu što više.
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Broken systems certainly need more resources and tools.
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Lošim sistemima svakako treba više resursa i alata.
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But they won't drive much impact
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Ali to neće imati mnogo uticaja
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if you don't first address the motivation challenge.
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ako se najpre ne pozabavite problemom motivacije.
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Once the motivation tide begins to shift,
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Kada plima motivacije počne da se menja,
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that's when you get the real returns off resources and tools.
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tada zgrćete pravi dobitak od resursa i alata.
11:50
But I still haven't answered a key question.
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Ali i dalje nisam odgovorio na ključno pitanje.
11:53
What happened to the performance of Rajasthan's public health system?
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Šta se dogodilo sa učinkom sistema javnog zdravstva u Radžastanu?
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In 2016, when our work began,
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Godine 2016, kada smo počeli sa radom,
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the government of India and the World Bank
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vlada Indije i Svetska banka
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came out with a public health index.
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prikazali su indeks javnog zdravlja.
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Rajasthan was ranked 20th out of 21 large states.
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Radžastan je bio na 20. mestu od 21 velike države.
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But in 2018,
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Ali 2018. godine,
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when the next ranking came out,
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kada je objavljena sledeća rang-lista,
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Rajasthan showed one of the highest improvements
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Radžastan je pokazao jedno od najboljih poboljšanja
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among all large states in India,
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među svim većim državama u Indiji,
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leapfrogging four positions.
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skočivši za četiri mesta.
12:26
For example, it showed one of the highest reductions
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Na primer, pokazao je jedno od najvećih smanjenja
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in neonatal mortality,
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neonatalnog mortaliteta,
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with 3,000 additional newborn lives being saved every year.
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pri čemu se svake godine spasi dodatnih 3 000 novorođenčadi.
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Typically, public health transformations take a long time, even decades.
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Transformacije u javnom zdravstvu obično traju dugo, čak decenijama.
12:44
But this approach had delivered results
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Ali ovaj pristup je ostvario rezultate
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in two years.
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za dve godine.
12:50
But here's the best part.
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A evo najboljeg dela.
12:52
There is actually nothing Rajasthan-specific about what we learned.
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U ovome što smo naučili nema ničeg što posebno važi samo za Radžastan.
12:57
In fact, this approach of using the citizen to trigger motivation
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Zapravo, ovaj pristup korišćenja građana za pokretanje motivacije
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is not even limited to public health systems.
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nije čak ni ograničen na sisteme javnog zdravlja.
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I sincerely believe that if there is any public system,
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Iskreno verujem da, ako postoji neki javni sistem,
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in any country,
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u bilo kojoj zemlji,
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that is in inertia,
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koji je u stanju inercije,
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then we need to bring back the motivation.
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moramo uvesti motivaciju.
13:18
And a great way to trigger the motivation
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A sjajan način za pokretanje motivacije
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is to increase transparency to the citizen.
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jeste povećanje transparentnosti za građane.
13:26
We can do this with education
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To možemo primeniti u obrazovanju, sanitarnim merama,
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and sanitation and even political representation.
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pa čak i sa političkim predstavnicima.
13:32
Government schools can compete publicly on the basis of student enrollment.
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Državne škole se mogu javno takmičiti na osnovu upisa učenika.
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Cities and towns, on the basis of cleanliness.
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Veći i manji gradovi to mogu na osnovu čistoće.
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And politicians on the basis of a scorecard
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A političari na osnovu rezultata
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of how exactly they're improving citizen lives.
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koji tačno pokazuju kako poboljšavaju živote građana.
13:49
There are many broken systems out there in the world.
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Mnogo je loših sistema u svetu.
13:53
We need to bring back their motivation.
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Moramo im vratiti motivaciju.
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The citizen is waiting.
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Građani čekaju.
13:59
We must act today.
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Moramo nešto preduzeti danas.
14:02
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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