Bobby Ghosh: Why global jihad is losing

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Jong woo Hong ๊ฒ€ํ† : WooHyang Seo
00:16
I'm going to talk about the power of a word:
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์ €๋Š” '์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ'๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ํž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
00:19
jihad.
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๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:22
To the vast majority of practicing Muslims,
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๋Œ€๋‹ค์ˆ˜์˜ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ๊ต๋„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
00:26
jihad is an internal struggle for the faith.
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋Š” ์‹ ๋…์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‚ด์  ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
00:30
It is a struggle within, a struggle against vice, sin,
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์•…, ์ฃ„, ์œ ํ˜น, ์š•๋ง, ํƒ์š• ์†์—์„œ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๋Š”,
00:35
temptation, lust, greed.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋งž์„  ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:37
It is a struggle to try and live a life
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์ฝ”๋ž€์— ์ ํžŒ ๋„๋•์  ๊ทœ๋ฒ”๋Œ€๋กœ
00:41
that is set by the moral codes written in the Koran.
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์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:48
In that original idea, the concept of jihad is as important
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์›๋ž˜ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์€ ๊ธฐ๋…๊ต๋„์˜ ์€ํ˜œ๋งŒํผ์ด๋‚˜
00:53
to Muslims as the idea of grace is to Christians.
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์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฐœ๋…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
It's a very powerful word, jihad, if you look at it in that respect,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์€ ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:03
and there's a certain almost mystical resonance to it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด ์†์—๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์‹ ํ™”์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์šธ๋ฆผ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
And that's the reason why, for hundreds of years,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค์ด
01:10
Muslims everywhere have named their children Jihad,
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์•„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€์–ด ์ค€ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
01:13
their daughters as much as their sons, in the same way
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๋”ธ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ง€์–ด ์ค€ ์ด์œ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:15
that, say, Christians name their daughters Grace,
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๊ธฐ๋…๊ต๋„๋“ค์ด ๋”ธ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด์Šค(Grace,์€์ด)๋กœ ์ง“๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
01:19
and Hindus, my people, name our daughters Bhakti,
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์ € ๊ฐ™์€ ํžŒ๋‘๊ต๋„๋“ค์€ ๋”ธ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์‚ฐ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฌํŠธ์–ด๋กœ '์ •์‹ ์  ์ˆญ๋ฐฐ'๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์˜
01:23
which means, in Sanskrit, spiritual worship.
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๋ฐ”ํฌํ‹ฐ(Bhakti)๋ผ๊ณ  ์ง“์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:29
But there have always been, in Islam, a small group,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต ๋‚ด์—๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚ด์  ํˆฌ์Ÿ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
01:31
a minority, who believe that jihad
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๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‹ ์•™์„ ์œ„ํ˜‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์™ธ๋ถ€์˜ ์„ธ๋ ฅ์—๋„
01:34
is not only an internal struggle but also an external struggle
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๋Œ€ํ•ญํ•˜์—ฌ ํˆฌ์Ÿํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๋Š”
01:37
against forces that would threaten the faith, or the faithul.
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์†Œ์ˆ˜ ์ง‘๋‹จ์ด ์กด์žฌํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:43
And some of these people believe that in that struggle,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ํˆฌ์Ÿ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
01:46
it is sometimes okay to take up arms.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:50
And so the thousands of young Muslim men
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 1980๋…„๋Œ€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ ๋ นํ•œ ์†Œ๋ จ์—
01:53
who flocked to Afghanistan in the 1980s
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๋งž์„œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฐ๋ ค๊ฐ”๋˜
01:56
to fight against the Soviet occupation of a Muslim country,
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์ˆ˜์ฒœ์˜ ์ Š์€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ์ฒญ๋…„๋“ค์€
01:59
in their minds they were fighting a jihad,
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์„ฑ์ „์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‹ธ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:02
they were doing jihad,
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์„ฑ์ „์„ ์น˜๋ฅด๋Š” ์ด๋“ค์€
02:04
and they named themselves the Mujahideen,
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์ž์‹ ๋“ค์„ ๋ฌด์žํ—ค๋”˜(Mujahideen)์ด๋ผ ๋ถˆ๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:07
which is a word that comes from the same root as jihad.
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์ด ๋ง์€ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์™€ ์–ด์›์ด ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:12
And we forget this now, but back then
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žŠ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹œ ๋ฌด์žํ—ค๋”˜์€
02:15
the Mujahideen were celebrated in this country, in America.
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์ด๊ณณ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ™˜์˜๋ฐ›๋Š” ์กด์žฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
We thought of them as holy warriors who were taking
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋“ค์„ ์‹ ์„ ๋ถ€์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณต์‚ฐ์ฃผ์˜์™€ ์‹ธ์šฐ๋Š”
02:21
the good fight to the ungodly communists.
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๊ฑฐ๋ฃฉํ•œ ํˆฌ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:25
America gave them weapons, gave them money,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด๊ธฐ์™€ ๋ˆ์„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
02:27
gave them support, encouragement.
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๊ฒฉ๋ ค์™€ ์ง€์ง€๋ฅผ ์•„๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:30
But within that group, a tiny, smaller group,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค ๋‚ด๋ถ€์— ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ํ•œ ์ง‘๋‹จ์ด,
02:32
a minority within a minority within a minority,
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์ •๋ง ๊ทน์†Œ์ˆ˜๋กœ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง„ ํ•œ ์ง‘๋‹จ์ด
02:36
were coming up with a new and dangerous
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์˜ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๊ณ ๋„ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐœ๋…์„
02:39
conception of jihad,
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:42
and in time this group would come to be led by Osama bin Laden,
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์ดํ›„ ์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์ด ์ด ๋‹จ์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ด๋Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
02:47
and he refined the idea.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ๋„์ž…ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:49
His idea of jihad was a global war of terror,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ
02:54
primarily targeted at the far enemy,
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๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ ๋“ค, ์„œ์–‘์˜ ์‹ญ์ž๊ตฐ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๊ฒจ๋ƒฅํ•œ
02:56
at the crusaders from the West, against America.
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์„ธ๊ณ„์  ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋กœ ๋งž์„œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:00
And the things he did in the pursuit of this jihad
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ €์ง€๋ฅธ ์ง“๋“ค์€
03:03
were so horrendous, so monstrous,
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๋”์ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฌด์‹œ๋ฌด์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:06
and had such great impact,
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๊ทธ ์—ฌํŒŒ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์–ด์„œ
03:08
that his definition was the one that stuck,
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฐœ๋…์€ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ณ ์ •๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
03:12
not just here in the West.
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์ด๊ณณ ์„œ์–‘์—์„œ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:13
We didn't know any better. We didn't pause to ask.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ทธ ์ •๋„์˜€์–ด์š”. ๋” ์˜๋ฌธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋ณด์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:17
We just assumed that if this insane man and his psychopathic followers
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ด ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ž์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ •์‹ ๋‚˜๊ฐ„ ์ถ”์ข…์ž๋“ค์ด
03:22
were calling what they did jihad, then that's what jihad must mean.
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์ž์‹ ๋“ค์„ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋œป์ธ ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:27
But it wasn't just us. Even in the Muslim world,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฟ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ๋„
03:30
his definition of jihad began to gain acceptance.
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ์˜ ๊ฐœ๋…์ด ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
03:35
A year ago I was in Tunis, and I met the imam
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1๋…„ ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŠ€๋‹ˆ์ง€์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ๊ตํšŒ์˜
03:38
of a very small mosque, an old man.
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์—ฐ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธ‹ํ•œ ์ด๋ง˜(imam, ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋‹จ ์กฐ์ง์˜ ์ง€๋„์ž)์„ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:40
Fifteen years ago, he named his granddaughter Jihad,
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15๋…„ ์ „ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ์˜ ์†๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์˜ ์˜ˆ์ „ ์˜๋ฏธ๋Œ€๋กœ
03:44
after the old meaning. He hoped that a name like that
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๊ทธ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ง€์–ด ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
would inspire her to live a spiritual life.
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๊ทธ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ž€ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์†๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ˆญ๊ณ ํ•œ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ฃผ๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋žฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:52
But he told me that after 9/11,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ 911ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ ์ดํ›„
03:54
he began to have second thoughts.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
He worried that if he called her by that name,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์†๋…€๋”ธ์ด ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ฆ„์œผ๋กœ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์šธ ๋•Œ
03:59
especially outdoors, outside in public,
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์ž๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ๋œป์„ ๋ฐ›์•„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ ๊นŒ ๋ด
04:02
he might be seen as endorsing bin Laden's idea of jihad.
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๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:07
On Fridays in his mosque, he gave sermons
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋ชจ์Šคํฌ(์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ๊ตํšŒ)์—์„œ
04:10
trying to reclaim the meaning of the word,
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์‹ ๋„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์˜ ์ฐธ ๋œป์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
04:14
but his congregants, the people who came to his mosque,
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์„ค๊ต๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์‹ ๋„๋“ค์€
04:18
they had seen the videos. They had seen pictures
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911 ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ดค๊ณ , ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ๋กœ ๋Œ์ง„ํ•˜์—ฌ
04:20
of the planes going into the towers, the towers coming down.
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๊ฑด๋ฌผ์ด ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
They had heard bin Laden say that that was jihad,
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๋˜ํ•œ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์ด๋ฉฐ
04:29
and claimed victory for it. And so the old imam worried
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์˜ ์Šน๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋‚˜์ด ๋“  ์ด๋ง˜์€
04:32
that his words were falling on deaf ears. No one was paying attention.
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๊ทธ์˜ ์„ค๊ต๊ฐ€ ์‡ ๊ท€์— ๊ฒฝ ์ฝ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
He was wrong. Some people were paying attention,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํ‹€๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ง์— ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ท€์šธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:40
but for the wrong reasons.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ์˜๋„์™€๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๋กœ์š”.
04:41
The United States, at this point, was putting pressure
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๋‹น์‹œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์€ ๊ธ‰์ง„์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฝ‘๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
04:44
on all its Arab allies, including Tunisia,
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ํŠ€๋‹ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋น„๋กฏํ•œ ์•„๋ž ์„ธ๊ณ„์—
04:47
to stamp out extremism in their societies,
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์••๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
04:51
and this imam found himself suddenly in the crosshairs
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์ด๋ง˜์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ํŠ€๋‹ˆ์ง€ ์ •๋ณด ๊ธฐ๊ด€์˜ ํ‘œ์ ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Œ์„
04:55
of the Tunisian intelligence service.
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์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
They had never paid him any attention before --
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์ด์ „์— ์ž‘์€ ๊ตํšŒ์˜ ๋Š™์€ ์ด๋ง˜์€
04:59
old man, small mosque --
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์ „ํ˜€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์˜ ๋Œ€์ƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
05:02
but now they began to pay visits,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ฐพ์•„์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
and sometimes they would drag him in for questions,
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋Œ๋ ค๋‚˜์™€
05:06
and always the same question:
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๋Š˜ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:07
"Why did you name your granddaughter Jihad?
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"์™œ ์†๋…€๋”ธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ง€์–ด์ค€ ๊ฑฐ์š”?"
05:11
Why do you keep using the word jihad in your Friday sermons?
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"์™œ ๊ณ„์† ์„ค๊ต์—์„œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€?"
05:16
Do you hate Americans?
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"๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๋‚˜?"
05:18
What is your connection to Osama bin Laden?"
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"์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด๊ณผ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๊ด€๊ณ„์•ผ?"
05:22
So to the Tunisian intelligence agency,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ํŠ€๋‹ˆ์ง€ ์ •๋ณด ๊ธฐ๊ด€์„ ๋น„๋กฏํ•ด
05:24
and organizations like it all over the Arab world,
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์•„๋ž ์ „์—ญ์˜ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์กฐ์ง๋“ค์€
05:27
jihad equaled extremism,
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์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์™€ ๊ธ‰์ง„์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๋™์ผ์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:32
Bin Laden's definition had become institutionalized.
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๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ๊ฐœ๋…์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜ํ™”๋˜์–ด ๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
That was the power of that word that he was able to do.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ง์˜ ํž˜์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์€ ๊ทธ ํž˜์„ ๋นŒ์–ด ํ–‰๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:39
And it filled this old imam, it filled him with great sadness.
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์ด ๋‚˜์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ด๋ง˜์€ ๊ทธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ์Šฌํผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:45
He told me that, of bin Laden's many crimes, this was,
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์ด ๋…ธ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
05:48
in his mind, one that didn't get enough attention,
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์ด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์™œ๊ณก์‹œํ‚จ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ
05:51
that he took this word, this beautiful idea.
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์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ฃผ๋ชฉ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
He didn't so much appropriate it as kidnapped it
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ๋นผ์•—์•„ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
05:59
and debased it and corrupted it
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๊ทธ ํ’ˆ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฉ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์—ฌ
06:02
and turned it into something it was never meant to be,
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:06
and then persuaded all of us that it always was
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ์ธ ์–‘
06:11
a global jihad.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ์„ค๋“ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:14
But the good news is
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ •์˜ํ•œ ์ด ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๊ฐ€
06:17
that the global jihad is almost over, as bin Laden defined it.
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์ด์ œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ง‰์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:23
It was dying well before he did,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ง ์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ฃฝ์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:26
and now it's on its last legs.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ˆ˜๋ช…์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ ๋‚จ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
06:28
Opinion polls from all over the Muslim world show
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ฐ์ง€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ๊ต๋„์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•œ ํ†ต๊ณ„์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
06:30
that there is very little interest among Muslims
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๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ , ์„œ์–‘๊ณผ์˜ ์„ฑ์ „์—”
06:35
in a global holy war against the West,
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๋ฌด์Šฌ๋ฆผ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
06:37
against the far enemy.
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๋ณด์—ฌ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
The supply of young men willing to fight and die for this cause is dwindling.
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์ด ์ „์Ÿ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ชฉ์ˆจ ๋ฐ”์ณ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ฒญ๋…„๋“ค์˜ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ค„๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:45
The supply of money โ€” just as important, more important perhaps โ€”
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์ด ์ „์Ÿ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ๋งŒํผ.. ์•„๋งˆ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•  ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š”
06:48
the supply of money to this activity is also dwindling.
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์ž๊ธˆ์˜ ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋„ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:50
The wealthy fanatics who were previously
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์˜ˆ์ „์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ „์Ÿ์— ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ๋Œ€๋˜
06:53
sponsoring this kind of activity are now less generous.
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๊ฐ‘๋ถ€ ๊ด‘์‹ ์ž๋“ค์ด ์ด์   ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
What does that mean for us in the West?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„œ์–‘์ธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์˜๋ฏธ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
07:01
Does it mean we can break out the champagne,
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์ƒดํŽ˜์ธ์„ ํ„ฐ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ด์ œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์†์„ ๋–ผ๊ณ ,
07:05
wash our hands of it, disengage, sleep easy at night?
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๊ฑฑ์ •์„ ๋œ๊ณ  ๋ฐค์— ํŽธํžˆ ์ž ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
07:10
No. Disengagement is not an option,
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ๊ฑฑ์ •์„ ๋œ ์ˆœ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:15
because if you let local jihad survive,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ตญ์ง€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†” ๋‘”๋‹ค๋ฉด
07:22
it becomes international jihad.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ตญ์ œ์ ์ธ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:24
And so there's now a lot of different
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๊ฐ€
07:27
violent jihads all over the world.
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋„์ฒ˜์— ์กด์žฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:30
In Somalia, in Mali, in Nigeria,
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์†Œ๋ง๋ฆฌ์•„, ๋ง๋ฆฌ, ๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„, ์ด๋ผํฌ, ์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„, ํŒŒํ‚ค์Šคํƒ„์—๋Š”
07:32
in Iraq, in Afghanistan, Pakistan, there are groups that claim
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์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ํ›„๊ณ„์ž์ž„์„ ์ž์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋Š”
07:37
to be the inheritors of the legacy of Osama bin Laden.
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๋‹จ์ฒด๋“ค์ด ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:43
They use his rhetoric.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ๋…ผ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‚˜๋‹ค.
07:44
They even use the brand name he created for his jihad.
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๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์ด ๊ทธ์˜ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์ด๋ฆ„๊นŒ์ง€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:49
So there is now an al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,
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๋งˆ๊ทธ๋ ˆ๋ธŒ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ์ง€์—ญ์—๋„ ์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
07:53
there's an al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula,
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์•„๋ผ๋น„์•„ ๋ฐ˜๋„์—๋„ ์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
07:55
there is an al Qaeda in Mesopotamia.
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๋ฉ”์†Œํฌํƒ€๋ฏธ์•„ ์ง€์—ญ์—๋„ ์ด๋“ค์ด ์กด์žฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:58
There are other groups -- in Nigeria, Boko Haram,
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๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„์—๋Š” ๋ณด์ฝ” ํ•˜๋žŒ, ์†Œ๋ง๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ๋Š” ์•Œ ์ƒค๋ฐฅ ๋“ฑ
08:00
in Somalia, al Shabaab -- and they all pay homage to Osama bin Laden.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹จ์ฒด๋“ค์ด ์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์„ ์ˆญ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:06
But if you look closely,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด,
08:08
they're not fighting a global jihad.
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์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:11
They're fighting battles over much narrower issues.
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:15
Usually it has to do with ethnicity or race or sectarianism,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ฏผ์กฑ, ์ข…์กฑ, ๋‹นํŒŒ์ฃผ์˜ ์‹ธ์›€์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋ฉด
08:19
or it's a power struggle.
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๊ถŒ๋ ฅ ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:20
More often than not, it's a power struggle
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๋Œ€๊ฐœ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€, ํ˜น์€ ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์˜
08:22
in one country, or even a small region within one country.
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๋” ์ž‘์€ ์ง€์—ญ์  ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
Occasionally they will go across a border,
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๋ผํฌ์—์„œ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์•„๋กœ, ๋ง๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์•Œ์ œ๋ฆฌ์•„๋กœ,
08:29
from Iraq to Syria, from Mali to Algeria,
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์†Œ๋ง๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ ์ผ€๋ƒ๋กœ ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„  ์‹ธ์›€์ด ๋  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:35
from Somalia to Kenya, but they're not fighting
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ € ๋จผ ๊ณณ์˜ ์ ์„ ์ƒ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‹ธ์šฐ๋Š”
08:37
a global jihad against some far enemy.
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๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ .
08:42
But that doesn't mean
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
08:45
that we can relax.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์•ˆ์‹ฌํ•ด๋„ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:47
I was in Yemen recently, where -- it's the home
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์ €๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ ์˜ˆ๋ฉ˜์— ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ณณ์€ ์•„์ง๋„
08:49
of the last al Qaeda franchise
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์„œ์–‘๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ํฐ ๊ฟˆ์„ ํ’ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
08:53
that still aspires to attack America, attack the West.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ณธ๊ฑฐ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:57
It's old school al Qaeda.
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์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค์˜ ์ „ํ†ต์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ์‹ ๋ด‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์ฃ .
08:59
You may remember these guys.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๋“ค์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
They are the ones who tried to send the underwear bomber here,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ '์†์˜ท ํญํƒ„' ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
09:03
and they were using the Internet to try and instigate
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์˜
09:06
violence among American Muslims.
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ํญ๋ ฅ ์‚ฌํƒœ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์žฅํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:09
But they have been distracted recently.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์š” ๊ทผ๋ž˜ ์ด๋“ค์€ ์šฐ์™•์ขŒ์™•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
Last year, they took control over a portion of southern Yemen,
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์ง€๋‚œ ํ•ด, ์ด๋“ค์€ ๋‚จ ์˜ˆ๋ฉ˜์˜ ํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ์žฅ์•…ํ•ด์„œ
09:13
and ran it, Taliban-style.
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ํ†ต์น˜ํ•œ ๋ฐ” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ํƒˆ๋ ˆ๋ฐ˜ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ์ด์ฃ .
09:16
And then the Yemeni military got its act together,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์˜ˆ๋ฉ˜๊ตฐ์ด ์ด๋ ฅ์„ ๋‹คํ•ด ์‹ธ์šฐ์ž
09:18
and ordinary people rose up against these guys
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์ผ๋ฐ˜ ์‹œ๋ฏผ๋“ค๋„ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜ ์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค์— ๋งž์„ฐ๊ณ ,
09:22
and drove them out, and since then, most of their activities,
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์ด๋“ค์„ ๋‚ด๋ชฐ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์ด๋“ค์€
09:25
most of their attacks have been directed at Yemenis.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์˜ˆ๋ฉ˜์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ๋Œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:29
So I think we've come to a point now where we can say
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์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ •์น˜๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด, ๋ชจ๋“  ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋„ ์ด์  
09:33
that, just like all politics, all jihad is local.
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๊ตญ์ง€์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ์ ์— ์™”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:37
But that's still not reason for us to disengage,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:41
because we've seen that movie before, in Afghanistan.
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์•„ํ”„๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ์Šคํƒ„์˜ ์˜ˆ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์•˜๋“ฏ์ด ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:45
When those Mujahideen defeated the Soviet Union,
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๋ฌด์žํ—ค๋”˜์ด ์†Œ๋ จ๊ตฐ์„ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ณค์„ ๋•Œ
09:49
we disengaged.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ด๋ฐฉ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
09:51
And even before the fizz had gone out of our celebratory champagne,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถ•๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฏธ์ฒ˜ ๋๋‚ด๊ธฐ๋„ ์ „์—
09:59
the Taliban had taken over in Kabul,
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ํƒˆ๋ ˆ๋ฐ˜์ด ์นด๋ถˆ์„ ์žฅ์•…ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
10:01
and we said, "Local jihad, not our problem."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ์  ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:05
And then the Taliban gave the keys of Kandahar
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์–ผ๋งˆ ๋’ค ํƒˆ๋ ˆ๋ฐ˜์€ ์นธ๋‹คํ•˜๋ฅด์˜ ์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋„˜๊ฒจ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๊ณ 
10:08
to Osama bin Laden. He made it our problem.
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๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ปค์กŒ์ฃ .
10:11
Local jihad, if you ignore it, becomes global jihad again.
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๊ตญ์ง€์  ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ„๊ณผํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋กœ ๋ป—์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:17
The good news is that it doesn't have to be.
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์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ๊ผญ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋„ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
10:20
We know how to fight it now.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์— ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
We have the tools. We have the knowhow,
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ• ์ง€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
10:25
and we can take the lessons we've learned
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๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์™€์˜ ํ•ญ์Ÿ๊ณผ ์Šน๋ฆฌ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ตํ›ˆ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ณ 
10:27
from the fight against global jihad, the victory against global jihad,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง€์—ญ์  ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์— ์ ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
10:31
and apply those to local jihad.
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๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:34
What are those lessons? We know who killed bin Laden:
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ป์€ ๊ตํ›ˆ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”? ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์„ ์ฃฝ์˜€๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ์•Œ์ง€์š”.
10:39
SEAL Team Six.
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์”ฐ ํŒ€ ์‹์Šค(SEAL Team Six)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ( *๋ฏธ๊ตฐ ํ•ด๊ตฐ์˜ ๋ฐ˜ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ ์ „๋‹ด ํŠน์ˆ˜ ์ •์˜ˆ ๋ถ€๋Œ€ *)
10:41
Do we know, do we understand, who killed bin Ladenism?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด ์ •์‹ ์„ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋๋ƒˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
10:45
Who ended the global jihad?
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋๋ƒˆ๋‚˜์š”?
10:49
There lie the answers to the solution to local jihad.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์ง€์—ญ์  ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์—ด์‡ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:52
Who killed bin Ladenism? Let's start with bin Laden himself.
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์„ ์ œ๊ฑฐํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด ๋ณธ์ธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด ๋ณด์ฃ .
10:57
He probably thought 9/11 was his greatest achievement.
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๊ทธ๋Š” 911 ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ œ์ผ ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—…์ ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:59
In reality, it was the beginning of the end for him.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข…๋ง์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:03
He killed 3,000 innocent people, and that filled
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๊ทธ๋Š” 3์ฒœ์—ฌ๋ช…์˜ ๋ฌด๊ณ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์ƒ๋ช…์„ ์•—์•„๊ฐ”๊ณ 
11:06
the Muslim world with horror and revulsion,
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์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ณตํฌ์™€ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์ฑ„์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:10
and what that meant was that his idea of jihad
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋Š”
11:13
could never become mainstream.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์ฃผ๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Œ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:15
He condemned himself to operating on the lunatic fringes
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋„ ์ •์‹ ๋‚˜๊ฐ„
11:19
of his own community.
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์†Œ์ˆ˜ ๊ณผ๊ฒฉํŒŒ๋กœ ๋น„๋‚œ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:23
9/11 didn't empower him; it doomed him.
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911ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ํž˜์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋ถˆํ–‰์— ๋น ๋œจ๋ ธ์ฃ .
11:28
Who killed bin Ladenism? Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed it.
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ์ฃฝ๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋ถ€ ๋ฌด์‚ฝ ์•Œ์ž์ฝฐ์ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
He was the especially sadistic head of al Qaeda in Iraq
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ผํฌ ์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค์˜ ์ž”์ธํ•œ ์ง€๋„์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:36
who sent hundreds of suicide bombers to attack
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ด๋ผํฌ์— ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ์ฐจ๋ก€์˜ ์ž์‚ด ํญํƒ„ ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:39
not Americans but Iraqis. Muslims. Sunni as well as Shiites.
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์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค, ์ˆœ๋‹ˆํŒŒ์™€ ์‹œ์•„ํŒŒ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:46
Any claim that al Qaeda had to being protectors of Islam
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์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค๋Š” ์„œ์–‘์˜ ์ ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
11:50
against the Western crusaders
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์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ปค๋…•
11:53
was drowned in the blood of Iraqi Muslims.
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์ด๋ผํฌ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค์˜ ํ”ผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
Who killed Osama bin Laden? The SEAL Team Six.
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์„ ์ฃฝ์˜€๋‚˜์š”? ํŠน์ˆ˜๋ถ€๋Œ€ SEAL TEAM 6์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:02
Who killed bin Ladenism? Al Jazeera did,
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ์ข…๊ฒฐ์‹œ์ผฐ๋‚˜์š”? ์•Œ ์ž์ง€๋ผ ๋ฐฉ์†ก๊ณผ
12:04
Al Jazeera and half a dozen other satellite news stations in Arabic,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์„ฏ ๊ตฐ๋ฐ์˜ ์•„๋ž ์œ„์„ฑ ๋‰ด์Šค ์ฑ„๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:09
because they circumvented the old, state-owned
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ตญ๋ฏผ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œํ•œํ•˜๋Š”
12:12
television stations in a lot of these countries
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‚˜๋ผ์˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๊ณต์˜ ๋ฐฉ์†ก๊ตญ๋“ค์˜
12:16
which were designed to keep information from people.
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๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํƒˆํ”ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:19
Al Jazeera brought information to them, showed them
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์•Œ ์ž์ง€๋ผ๋Š” ๊ตญ๋ฏผ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
what was being said and done in the name of their religion,
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์ข…๊ต๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„ ํ•˜์— ์žํ–‰๋œ ์ง“์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:26
exposed the hypocrisy of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda,
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์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด๊ณผ ์•Œ ์นด์—๋‹ค์˜ ์œ„์„ ์„ ํญ๋กœํ•˜์˜€๊ณ 
12:31
and allowed them, gave them the information
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก
12:33
that allowed them to come to their own conclusions.
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์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:37
Who killed bin Ladenism? The Arab Spring did,
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ์ข…๊ฒฐ์‹œ์ผฐ๋‚˜์š”? '์•„๋ž์˜ ๋ด„( *์ค‘๋™์—์„œ ์ด‰๋ฐœ๋œ ์ผ๋ จ์˜ ๋ฐ˜์ •๋ถ€ ์‹œ์œ„)'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:41
because it showed a way for young Muslims
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์ด๋Š” ์ Š์€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ๊ต๋„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
12:44
to bring about change
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๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์˜ค๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
in a manner that Osama bin Laden, with his
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์˜ค์‚ฌ๋งˆ ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํŽธํ˜‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋‹Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
12:50
limited imagination, could never have conceived.
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๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
Who defeated the global jihad? The American military did,
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ณค๋‚˜์š”? ๋ฏธ๊ตฐ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:57
the American soldiers did, with their allies,
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๋จผ ์ „์žฅ์—์„œ ๋™๋งน๊ตฐ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
12:59
fighting in faraway battlefields.
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์ „ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด ์ค€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:04
And perhaps, a time will come when they get the rightful credit for it.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋‹นํ•œ ๊ณต์ ์„ ๋Œ๋ฆด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์˜ฌ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:10
So all these factors, and many more besides,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ „๋ถ€ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€๋„ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š”
13:13
we don't even fully understand some of them yet,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์™ธ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ์—ฌ
13:16
these came together
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๋นˆ๋ผ๋ด์ฃผ์˜๋‚˜
13:19
to defeat a monstrosity as big as bin Ladenism,
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๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ ๊ฐ™์€ ํฐ ๊ดด๋ฌผ์„ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:22
the global jihad, you needed this group effort.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ณต๋™์˜ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
13:26
Now, not all of these things will work in local jihad.
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ค‘ ์–ด๋Š ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ง€์—ญ์  ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์— ํ†ตํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:28
The American military is not going to march into Nigeria
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๋ฏธ๊ตฐ์ด ๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„๋กœ ์ง„๊ฒฉํ•ด์„œ ๋ณด์ฝ” ํ•˜๋žŒ์„
13:31
to take on Boko Haram,
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๋Œ์–ด ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ.
13:34
and it's unlikely that SEAL Team Six will rappel
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๋ฏธ ํ•ด๋ณ‘๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์•Œ ์ƒค๋ฐฅ ์ง€๋„์ž์˜ ์ง‘์— ๊ธ‰์Šตํ•˜์—ฌ
13:36
into the homes of al Shabaab's leaders and take them out.
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๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:40
But many of these other factors that were in play
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋•Œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์€
13:44
are now even stronger than before. Half the work is already done.
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์˜ˆ์ „์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฐ˜์ ˆ์€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:50
We don't have to reinvent the wheel.
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์“ธ๋ฐ์—†๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ญ๋น„ํ•  ๊ณณ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:53
The notion of violent jihad in which more Muslims are killed
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค์„ ๋” ์ฃฝ์ด๋Š”
13:56
than any other kind of people is already thoroughly discredited.
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ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:00
We don't have to go back to that.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐˆ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
14:03
Satellite television and the Internet are informing
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์œ„์„ฑ ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „๊ณผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์€ ์ Š์€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
14:07
and empowering young Muslims in exciting new ways.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ํ–ฅํ•ด ์ •๋ณด์™€ ํž˜์„ ์‹ค์–ด ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:12
And the Arab Spring has produced governments,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ž์˜ ๋ด„์€
14:15
many of them Islamist governments,
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๋งŽ์€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ์ •๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋ฆฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:18
who know that, for their own self-preservation,
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์ด ์ •๋ถ€๋“ค์€ ์ž๊ธฐ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋ผ๋„
14:21
they need to take on the extremists in their midsts.
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๊ทน๋‹จ์ฃผ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ฑ…์ž„์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
We don't need to persuade them, but we do need to help them,
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์„ค๋“ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ๋„์™€ ์ฃผ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:29
because they haven't really come to this place before.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
14:35
The good news, again, is that a lot of the things they need
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์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„
14:38
we already have, and we are very good at giving:
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ž˜ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:41
economic assistance, not just money, but expertise,
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๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ์›์กฐ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ „๋ฌธ์  ์ž๋ฌธ,
14:45
technology, knowhow,
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๊ณผํ•™ ๊ธฐ์ˆ , ๋…ธํ•˜์šฐ
14:48
private investment, fair terms of trade,
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ํˆฌ์ž, ๊ณต์ •๋ฌด์—ญ
14:52
medicine, education, technical support for training
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์˜๋ฃŒ, ๊ต์œก ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
14:56
for their police forces to become more effective,
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๋” ํšจ์œจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ๋•๋Š” ๊ฒƒ,
14:59
for their anti-terror forces to become more efficient.
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๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐ•ํ™”์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋“ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:04
We've got plenty of these things.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ’๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:05
Some of the other things that they need
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€
15:08
we're not very good at giving. Maybe nobody is.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ํž˜๋“ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:11
Time, patience, subtlety, understanding --
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์‹œ๊ฐ„, ์ธ๋‚ด, ์„ฌ์„ธํ•จ, ์ดํ•ด,
15:16
these are harder to give.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฒ ํ’€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:18
I live in New York now. Just this week,
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์ €๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‰ด์š•์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:21
posters have gone up in subway stations in New York
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์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฅผ ์•ผ๋งŒ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•œ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋“ค์ด
15:23
that describe jihad as savage.
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์ง€ํ•˜์ฒ ์—ญ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
But in all the many years that I have covered the Middle East,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๋™ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ๋‹ค๋ค„์˜จ ์ด๋ž˜๋กœ
15:33
I have never been as optimistic as I am today
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์š”์ฆ˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ ์„ธ๊ณ„์™€ ์„œ๋ฐฉ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๊ฐ„๊ทน์ด
15:37
that the gap between the Muslim world and the West
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๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ขํ˜€์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
15:40
is narrowing fast,
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๋‚™๊ด€์ ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:43
and one of the many reasons for my optimism
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ธ์ •, ๋‚™๊ด€์˜ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
15:44
is that, because I know there are millions,
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ํŠ€๋‹ˆ์ง€์˜ ๊ทธ ์ด๋ง˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด์Šฌ๋žŒ๊ต๋„๋“ค์ด
15:48
hundreds of millions of people, Muslims like that old imam
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์ˆ˜์ฒœ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋ช…์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:52
in Tunis, who are reclaiming this word
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ
15:58
and restoring to its original, beautiful purpose.
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์›๋ž˜์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์˜๋ฏธ๋กœ ๋Œ๋ ค ๋†“์œผ๋ ค ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:04
Bin Laden is dead. Bin Ladenism has been defeated.
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๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์ฃผ์˜๋Š” ํŒจ๋ฐฐํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:06
His definition of jihad can now be expunged.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ •์˜ํ•œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์—†์–ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:11
To that jihad we can say, "Goodbye. Good riddance."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋นˆ ๋ผ๋ด์˜ ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ž˜ ๊ฐ€. ์†์ด ํ›„๋ จํ•˜๊ตฌ๋‚˜"
16:15
To the real jihad we can say, "Welcome back. Good luck."
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ง€ํ•˜๋“œ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ . "๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๊ฑธ ํ™˜์˜ํ•œ๋‹ค. ํ–‰์šด์„ ๋นŒ์–ด."
16:22
Thank you. (Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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