How to break bad management habits before they reach the next generation of leaders | Elizabeth Lyle

178,090 views ใƒป 2019-01-23

TED


ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืชืจื’ื•ื: Shimi Le ืขืจื™ื›ื”: Shai Hakim
00:13
I am guilty of stacking my dishes in the sink
0
13002
2835
ืื ื™ ืืฉืžื” ื‘ืขืจื™ืžืช ื”ื›ืœื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื‘ื›ื™ื•ืจ
00:15
and leaving them there for hours.
1
15861
1921
ื•ื”ืฉืืจืชื ืฉื ืœืžืฉืš ืฉืขื•ืช.
00:18
I fact-checked this with my boyfriend.
2
18518
2082
ื•ื™ื“ืืชื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ื–ื• ืขื ื”ื—ื‘ืจ ืฉืœื™.
00:20
He says it's less like hours and more like days,
3
20624
2627
ื”ื•ื ื˜ื•ืขืŸ ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืฉืขื•ืช ืืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื™ืžื™ื,
00:23
but that's not the point.
4
23275
1221
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื• ืœื ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื”.
00:25
The point is sometimes I don't finish the job
5
25035
2874
ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื”ื™ื, ืฉืœืคืขืžื™ื, ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืกื™ื™ืžืช ืืช ื”ืžืœืื›ื”
00:27
until the stack has gotten high enough that it's peaking over the lip of the sink
6
27933
3810
ืขื“ ืืฉืจ ื”ืขืจื™ืžื” ื ืขืฉื™ืช ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง ื›ืš ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืฆื™ืฆื” ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœืฉืคืช ื”ื›ื™ื•ืจ
00:31
and my inner clean freak loses it.
7
31767
1757
ื•ืžื˜ื•ืจืคืช ื”ื ืงื™ื•ืŸ ื”ืคื ื™ืžื™ืช ืฉื‘ื™ ืžืชื—ืจืคื ืช.
00:34
This charming habit developed when I was in college,
8
34730
2442
ื”ืจื’ืœ ืžืงืกื™ื ื–ื” ื”ืชืคืชื— ืœื• ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืžื›ืœืœื”,
00:37
and I had tons of excuses.
9
37196
1264
ื•ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ืชื™ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืžื›ื‘ื™ืจ.
00:39
"I'm running to class!"
10
39117
1372
"ืื ื™ ืžืžื”ืจืช ืœื”ืจืฆืื”!"
00:40
"What's one more dirty dish in the sink?"
11
40513
2091
"ืžื” ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืขื•ื“ ื™ื•ื ืฉืœ ื›ืœื™ ืžืœื•ื›ืœืš ื‘ื›ื™ื•ืจ?"
00:42
Or my favorite, "I think I can save time and water
12
42628
3556
ืื• ื”ืื”ื•ื‘ ืขืœื™ ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“, "ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื—ืกื•ืš ืงืฆืช ื–ืžืŸ ื•ืžื™ื
00:46
if I do them all together later."
13
46208
2302
ืื ืื ืงื” ืืช ื›ื•ืœื ื‘ื™ื—ื“ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ."
00:48
(Laughter)
14
48534
1064
(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
00:49
But it's not like I needed those excuses, because nobody was calling me on it.
15
49622
3672
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืืช ื”ืชื™ืจื•ืฆื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื‘ืืžืช ื‘ื™ืงืจ ืื•ืชื™.
00:54
I wish they had.
16
54132
1150
ืœืฆืขืจื™ ื”ื ืœื ืขืฉื• ืืช ื–ื”.
00:55
I look back now
17
55673
1151
ืื ื™ ืžืกืชื›ืœืช ืœืื—ื•ืจ ืขื›ืฉื™ื•
00:56
and realize that every time I didn't put a dish in the dishwasher
18
56848
3049
ื•ืžื‘ื™ื ื” ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ืคืขื ืฉืœื ืฉืžืชื™ ืืช ื”ื›ืœื™ื ื‘ืžื“ื™ื—
00:59
and finish what I started,
19
59921
1269
ื•ืกื™ื™ืžืชื™ ืืช ืžื” ืฉื”ืชื—ืœืชื™,
01:01
it became more second nature to me,
20
61214
1932
ื–ื” ื ื”ืคืš ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื˜ื‘ืข ืฉื ื™ ืฉืœื™,
01:03
and I grew less likely to question why I was doing it.
21
63170
2607
ื•ืคื—ืชื• ื”ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ื™ื ืฉืืชืขืžืช ืขื ื”ืฉืืœื” ืžื“ื•ืข ืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื” ื–ืืช.
01:06
Today, I'm a 30-something, certified dirty-dish leaver,
22
66352
4032
ื”ื™ื•ื, ืื ื™ ืžืฉืื™ืจืช-ื›ืœื™ื-ืžืœื•ื›ืœื›ื™ื ืžื“ื•ืคืœืžืช, ื‘ืช 30-ื•ืžืฉื”ื•,
01:10
and breaking this habit is hard.
23
70408
1849
ื•ืœื—ื“ื•ืœ ืžื”ืžื ื”ื’ ื”ื–ื” - ืงืฉื”.
01:13
So when I'm not at home avoiding the sink,
24
73497
2779
ืื– ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืขืกื•ืงื” ื‘ืœื”ืžื ืข ืžื”ื›ื™ื•ืจ,
01:16
I work with large, complex organizations on leadership transformation
25
76300
3883
ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ืช ืขื ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื•ืกื‘ื•ื›ื™ื, ืขืœ ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืฆื•ืจืช ื”ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ
01:20
in times of change.
26
80207
1263
ื‘ื–ืžื ื™ื ืฉืœ ืฉื™ื ื•ื™.
01:21
My job is to work with the most senior leaders
27
81834
3184
ื”ืžืฉื™ืžื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขื ื”ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื”ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
01:25
to examine how they lead today
28
85042
1563
ื›ื“ื™ ืœื‘ื—ื•ืŸ ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื”ื ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื”ื™ื•ื
01:26
and establish habits better suited for the future.
29
86629
2585
ื•ืœืคืชื— ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื ืืฉืจ ืžืชืื™ืžื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืขืชื™ื“.
01:30
But what interests me more than senior leaders these days
30
90293
2826
ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื™ ืžืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ืืœื”
01:33
is what's going on with the junior ones.
31
93143
1931
ื–ื” ืžื” ืงื•ืจื” ืขื ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื–ื•ื˜ืจื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ.
01:35
We call them "middle managers,"
32
95701
1749
ืื ื• ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœื”ื "ืžื ื”ืœื™ ื“ืจื’ ืืžืฆืข,"
01:37
but it's a term I wish we could change
33
97474
1866
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื”ื• ืžื•ื ื— ืฉื”ืœื•ื•ืื™ ื•ื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœืฉื ื•ืช
01:39
because what they are is our pipeline of future talent for the C-suite,
34
99364
3605
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืžื” ืฉื”ื ื‘ืืžืช ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉืžื—ื›ื” ืœื ื• ื‘ืฆื ืจืช ืฉืœ ื›ืฉืจื•ืŸ ืขืชื™ื“ื™ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ื ื”ืœื” ื‘ื›ื™ืจื”,
01:42
and they are starting to leave their dishes in the sink.
35
102993
2633
ื•ื”ื ืžืชื—ื™ืœื™ื ืœื”ืฉืื™ืจ ืืช ื”ื›ืœื™ื ืฉืœื”ื ื‘ื›ื™ื•ืจ.
01:46
While organizations are hiring people like me
36
106353
2602
ื‘ืขื•ื“ ืฉืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ืฉื•ื›ืจื™ื ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ืžื•ื ื™
01:48
to redevelop their senior leaders for the future,
37
108979
2793
ื›ื“ื™ ืœืคืชื— ืžื—ื“ืฉ ืืช ื”ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื”ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ืฉืœื”ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืขืชื™ื“,
01:51
outdated leadership habits are forming right before our eyes
38
111796
3393
ืžื ื”ื’ื™ ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ืืจื›ืื™ื™ื ืœื•ื‘ืฉื™ื ืฆื•ืจื” ืžืžืฉ ืžื•ืœ ื”ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื ื•
01:55
among the middle managers who will one day take their place.
39
115213
2847
ื‘ื™ืŸ ืžื ื”ืœื™ ื“ืจื’ ื”ืืžืฆืข ืฉื™ื•ื ืื—ื“ ื™ืชืคืกื• ืืช ืžืงื•ืžื.
01:59
We need middle managers and senior leaders to work together,
40
119488
4264
ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืฉืžื ื”ืœื™ ื“ืจื’ ื”ืืžืฆืข ื•ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ื™ืขื‘ื“ื• ื™ื—ื“ื™ื•,
02:03
because this is a big problem.
41
123776
2026
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื‘ื‘ืขื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”.
02:05
Organizations are evolving rapidly,
42
125826
3390
ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ืžืชืคืชื—ื™ื ื‘ืžื”ื™ืจื•ืช,
02:09
and they're counting on their future leaders
43
129240
2055
ื•ื”ื ืกื•ืžื›ื™ื ืขืœ ืžื ื”ืœื™ ื”ืขืชื™ื“ ืฉืœื”ื
02:11
to lead with more speed, flexibility, trust and cooperation than they do today.
44
131319
5149
ืฉื™ื ื”ืœื• ืžื”ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื’ืžื™ืฉ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื‘ืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ ืคืขื•ืœื” ื•ืืžื•ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืฉืจ ื›ื™ื•ื.
02:18
I believe there is a window of time in the formative middle-manager years
45
138622
3484
ืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ื ื” ืฉื™ืฉื ื• ื—ืœื•ืŸ ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืžืขืฆื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืžื ื”ืœื™ ื“ืจื’ ื”ืืžืฆืข
02:22
when we can lay the groundwork for that kind of leadership,
46
142130
2763
ืฉื‘ื• ื”ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืืช ื”ืชืฉืชื™ืช ืœืกื•ื’ ื›ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ,
02:24
but we're missing it.
47
144917
1356
ืื‘ืœ ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืคืกืคืกื™ื ืื•ืชื•.
02:26
Why?
48
146297
1239
ืžื“ื•ืข?
02:27
Because our future leaders are learning from senior role models
49
147560
3104
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืžื ื”ืœื™ ื”ืขืชื™ื“ ืฉืœื ื• ืžืงื‘ืœื™ื ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืžืžื•ื“ืœื™ ื—ื™ืงื•ื™ ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื
02:30
who just aren't ready to role model yet,
50
150688
2093
ืืฉืจ ื‘ืขืฆืžื ืื™ื ื ืžื•ื›ื ื™ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ื“ืœ ืœื—ื™ืงื•ื™
02:32
much less change the systems that made them so successful.
51
152805
3546
ื•ื›ืœ ืฉื›ืŸ ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ืฉื™ื˜ื•ืช ืฉื”ืคื›ื• ืื•ืชื ืœื›ื”-ืžืฆืœื™ื—ื™ื.
02:37
We need middle managers and senior leaders to work together
52
157637
2777
ืื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืฉืžื ื”ืœื™ ื“ืจื’ ืืžืฆืข ื•ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ื™ืขื‘ื“ื• ื™ื—ื“ื™ื•
02:40
to define a new way of leading
53
160438
1541
ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ื“ื™ืจ ื“ืจืš ื—ื“ืฉื” ืฉืœ ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ
02:42
and develop each other to rise to the occasion.
54
162003
2433
ื•ืœืคืชื— ืื—ื“ ืืช ื”ืฉื ื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ืžืฉื™ืžื”.
02:45
One of my favorite senior clients --
55
165946
1828
ืื—ื“ ืžืœืงื•ื—ื•ืชื™ื™ ื”ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ื”ืžื•ืขื“ืคื™ื --
02:47
we'll call her Jane --
56
167798
1252
ื ืงืจื ืœื” ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ --
02:49
is a poster child for what's old-fashioned in leadership today.
57
169074
3145
ื”ื™ื ื™ืœื“ืช ืคื•ืกื˜ืจ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžื” ืฉืืจื›ืื™ ื‘ื”ื ื”ืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื.
02:52
She rose to her C-level position
58
172880
2153
ื”ื™ื ื”ืชืงื“ืžื” ืœื“ืจื’ืช ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ื‘ื›ื™ืจื”
02:55
based on exceptional individual performance.
59
175057
2794
ื‘ื”ืชื‘ืกืก ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืขื™ื ืื™ืฉื™ื™ื ื™ื•ืฆืื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื›ืœืœ.
02:57
Come hell or high water, Jane got the job done,
60
177875
3102
ื™ืชื”ืคืš ื”ืขื•ืœื, ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืฉืœื™ืžื” ืืช ื”ืžืฉื™ืžื”,
03:01
and today, she leads like it.
61
181001
2202
ื•ื”ื™ื•ื, ื›ืš ื”ื™ื ืžื ื”ืœืช.
03:03
She is tough to please,
62
183545
1580
ืงืฉื” ืœืจืฆื•ืช ืื•ืชื”,
03:05
she doesn't have a lot of time for things that's aren't mission-critical,
63
185149
3482
ืื™ืŸ ืœื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™ ื–ืžืŸ ืœืžื” ืฉืœื ืกื•ืคืจ-ืงืจื™ื˜ื™,
03:08
and she really doesn't trust anyone's judgment more than her own.
64
188641
3073
ื•ืœืžืขืฉื” ื”ื™ื ืื™ื ื” ืกื•ืžื›ืช ืขืœ ืฉื™ืงื•ืœ ื”ื“ืขืช ืฉืœ ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืฉืœ ืขืฆืžื”.
03:11
Needless to say, Jane's in behavior boot camp.
65
191738
2940
ืžื™ื•ืชืจ ืœืฆื™ื™ืŸ, ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืžืฆืืช ื‘ื˜ื™ืจื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช.
03:15
Those deeply ingrained habits
66
195693
1699
ืžื ื”ื’ื™ื ืžื•ืฉืจืฉื™ื ืขืžื•ืง ืืœื”
03:17
are deeply inconsistent with where her organization is heading.
67
197416
3496
ืื™ื ื ืชื•ืืžื™ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžื•ื‘ื”ืง ืขื ื”ื“ืจืš ืืœื™ื” ืคื•ื ื” ื”ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ืฉืœื”.
03:21
The command-and-control behavior that she was once rewarded for
68
201348
2954
ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื”ืคื™ืงื•ื“ ื•ื”ืฉืœื™ื˜ื” ืฉื‘ื’ื™ื ื” ื”ื™ื ืงื•ื“ืžื” ื‘ืขื‘ืจ
03:24
just isn't going to work
69
204326
1641
ื›ื‘ืจ ืื™ื ื” ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ
03:25
in a faster-moving, flatter, more digitally interconnected organization.
70
205991
4001
ื‘ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ืฉื˜ื•ื— ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ืคื•ืขืœ ืžื”ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื•ืžื—ื•ื‘ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื“ื™ื’ื™ื˜ืœื™.
03:30
What got her here won't get her there.
71
210446
2382
ืžื” ืฉื”ื‘ื™ื ืื•ืชื” ืขื“ ื”ืœื•ื, ืœื ื™ื‘ื™ื ืื•ืชื” ืœืฉื.
03:34
But I want to talk about John,
72
214348
1464
ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื’'ื•ืŸ
03:35
a supertalented, up-and-coming manager who works for Jane,
73
215836
3159
ืžื ื”ืœ ืกื•ืคืจ ืžื•ื›ืฉืจ ืฉื”ื•ืœืš ื•ืžืชืงื“ื ื•ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ,
03:39
because her habits are rubbing off on him.
74
219019
2187
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื”ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื ืฉืœื” ืžืฉืคื™ืขื™ื ืขืœื™ื•.
03:41
Recently, he and I were strategizing
75
221968
2208
ืœื ืžื–ืžืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื•ืื ื™ ื—ืฉื‘ื ื• ืขืœ ืืกื˜ืจื˜ื’ื™ื”
03:44
about a decision we needed to put in front of the CEO, Jane's boss,
76
224200
3357
ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืขืžื™ื“, ืžื•ืœ ื”ืžื ื›"ืœ, ื”ื‘ื•ืก ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ,
03:47
and the rest of Jane's peers.
77
227581
1503
ื•ืฉืืจ ื”ืงื•ืœื’ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ.
03:49
He said to me, "Liz, you're not going to like this,
78
229771
3187
ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœื™, "ืœื™ื–, ืืช ืœื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœืื”ื•ื‘ ืืช ื–ื”,
03:52
but the way decisions get made around here
79
232982
2080
ืื‘ืœ ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืžืชืงื‘ืœื•ืช ื›ืืŸ
03:55
is with a bunch of meetings before the meeting."
80
235086
2303
ื”ื™ื ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ืฉื•ืจื” ืฉืœ ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช - ืœืคื ื™ ื”ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช."
03:58
I counted.
81
238223
1379
ืกืคืจืชื™.
03:59
That was going to mean eight one-on-ones, exec by exec,
82
239626
3571
ื”ืชื•ืฆืื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืžืคื’ืฉื™ื ืฉืœ 1:1, ื‘ื›ื™ืจ ืื—ืจื™ ื‘ื›ื™ืจ,
04:03
to make sure each one of them was individually on board enough
83
243221
2968
ื›ื“ื™ ืœื•ื•ื“ื ืฉื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื
04:06
that things would go smoothly in the actual meeting.
84
246213
2548
ื›ืš ืฉื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื™ืขื‘ืจื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื—ืœืง ื‘ืคื’ื™ืฉื” ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ืช.
04:10
He promised, "It's not how we'll do things in the future,
85
250356
3025
ื”ื•ื ื”ื‘ื˜ื™ื— ืœื™, "ื–ื” ืœื ืื™ืš ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื ืขืฉื” ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืขืชื™ื“,
04:13
but it's how we have to do them today."
86
253405
1930
ื–ื” ืื™ืš ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืื•ืชืŸ ื”ื™ื•ื."
04:16
John wasn't wrong on either count.
87
256504
1858
ื’'ื•ืŸ ืœื ื˜ืขื” ื‘ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื.
04:19
Meetings before the meeting are a necessary evil
88
259061
2239
ืคื’ื™ืฉื•ืช ืœืคื ื™ ืคื’ื™ืฉื•ืช ื”ืŸ ืจื•ืข ื”ื›ืจื—ื™
04:21
in his company today,
89
261324
1151
ื‘ื—ื‘ืจื” ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื•ื,
04:22
and I didn't like it at all.
90
262499
1515
ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ.
04:24
Sure, it was going to be inefficient and annoying,
91
264739
3409
ื‘ื˜ื—, ื–ื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืœื ื™ืขื™ืœ ื•ืžืขืฆื‘ืŸ,
04:28
but what bothered me most was his confidence
92
268172
2184
ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื›ื™ ื”ื˜ืจื™ื“ ืื•ืชื™ ื”ื™ื” ื”ื‘ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ืฉืœื•
04:30
that it's not how they'll do things in the future.
93
270380
2368
ืฉื–ื” ืœื ืื™ืš ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื™ื™ืขืฉื• ื‘ืขืชื™ื“.
04:33
How could he be sure?
94
273323
1340
ืื™ืš ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ื” ื‘ื˜ื•ื—?
04:35
Who was going to change it and when, if it wasn't him and now?
95
275263
3660
ืžื™ ื”ื•ืœืš ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื•ืžืชื™, ืื ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื”ื•ื ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื•?
04:39
What would the trigger be?
96
279994
1355
ืžื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ื”ื’ื•ืจื ืœื›ืš?
04:41
And when it happened,
97
281373
1243
ื•ื›ืฉื–ื” ื™ืงืจื”,
04:42
would he even know how to have effective meetings without pre-meetings?
98
282640
3859
ื”ืื ื”ื•ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื™ื“ืข ื›ื™ืฆื“ ืœื ื”ืœ ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช ื™ืขื™ืœื•ืช ืœืœื ื”ืงื“ื-ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช?
04:47
He was confidently implying that when he's the boss,
99
287233
2474
ื”ื•ื ืจืžื– ื‘ื‘ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ื”ื‘ื•ืก,
04:49
he'll change the rules and do things differently,
100
289731
2508
ื”ื•ื ื™ืฉื ื” ืืช ื”ื—ื•ืงื™ื ื•ื™ืขืฉื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจืช,
04:52
but all I could see were dishes stacking in the sink
101
292263
2993
ืื‘ืœ ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืจืื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœื™ื ืฉื ืขืจืžื™ื ืœื”ื ื‘ื›ื™ื•ืจ
04:55
and a guy with a lot of good excuses.
102
295280
1904
ื•ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ืขื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชื™ืจื•ืฆื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื.
04:57
Worse, a guy who might be out of a job one day
103
297793
2929
ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ืจื•ืข, ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ืฉืื•ืœื™ ื™ื”ื™ื” ืžื—ื•ืกืจ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื™ื•ื ืื—ื“
05:00
because he learned too late how to lead
104
300746
2202
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืœืžื“ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ืžื“ื™ ืื™ืš ืœื ื”ืœ
05:02
in the organizations of tomorrow.
105
302972
1788
ื‘ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืžื—ืจ.
05:07
These stories really get to me
106
307141
1885
ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื” ืžืจื’ื™ื–ื™ื ืื•ืชื™
05:09
when it's the fast-track, high-potential managers like John
107
309050
3146
ื›ืฉืืœื” ืžื ื”ืœื™ ืžืกืœื•ืœ ืžื”ื™ืจ ืขื ืคื•ื˜ื ืฆื™ืืœ ื’ื‘ื•ื” ื›ืžื• ื’'ื•ืŸ
05:12
because they're probably the most capable of making waves
108
312220
3235
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื”ื ื›ื ืจืื” ื”ื›ื™ ืžืกื•ื’ืœื™ื ืœืขื•ืจืจ ื’ืœื™ื
05:15
and redefining how leaders lead from the inside.
109
315479
2969
ื•ืœื”ื’ื“ื™ืจ ืžื—ื“ืฉ ื›ื™ืฆื“ ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ืžื‘ืคื ื™ื.
05:18
But what we find is that they're often doing the best job at not rocking the boat
110
318472
4389
ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžื’ืœื™ื, ื”ื•ื, ืฉืœืขืชื™ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื•ืช ื”ื ืžืฉืชื“ืœื™ื ืœื ืœื–ืขื–ืข ืืช ื”ืกืคื™ื ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™
05:22
and challenging the system
111
322885
2205
ืื• ืœืืชื’ืจ ืืช ื”ืฉื™ื˜ื”
05:25
because they're trying to impress
112
325114
1620
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื”ื ืžื ืกื™ื ืœื”ืจืฉื™ื
05:26
and make life easier on the senior leaders who will promote them.
113
326758
3185
ื•ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืงืœื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ื”ื ื”ืœื” ื”ื‘ื›ื™ืจื” ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืชืงื“ื ืื•ืชื.
05:30
As someone who also likes to get promoted,
114
330515
2192
ื›ืžื™ ืฉื‘ืขืฆืžื” ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืงื•ื“ืžืช,
05:32
I can hardly blame him.
115
332731
1496
ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ืืฉื™ื ืื•ืชื.
05:34
It's a catch-22.
116
334251
1459
ื–ื”ื• ืžืœื›ื•ื“-22.
05:36
But they're also so self-assured
117
336617
1931
ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื›ื” ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื™ื ื‘ืขืฆืžื
05:38
that they'll be able to change their behavior
118
338572
2159
ืฉื”ื ื™ื”ื™ื• ืžืกื•ื’ืœื™ื ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื
05:40
once they've earned the authority to do things differently,
119
340755
2763
ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉืชื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืืช ื”ืกืžื›ื•ืช ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจืช,
05:43
and that is a trap.
120
343542
1399
ื•ื–ื•ื”ื™ ืžืœื›ื•ื“ืช.
05:45
Because if I've learned anything from working with Jane,
121
345339
2621
ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉืื ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืžืฉื”ื• ืžื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขื ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ,
05:47
it's that when that day comes,
122
347984
1612
ื–ื” ืฉื›ืฉื”ื™ื•ื ื”ื–ื” ื™ื’ื™ืข,
05:49
John will wonder how he could possibly do anything differently
123
349620
2977
ื’'ื•ืŸ ื™ืชื”ื” ืื™ืš ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจืช
05:52
in his high-stakes, high-pressure executive job
124
352621
3106
ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื• ื”ื‘ื›ื™ืจื”, ืžืœืืช ื”ืกื™ื›ื•ื ื™ื ื•ื”ืœื—ืฅ
05:55
without risking his own success and the organization's,
125
355751
3556
ืžื‘ืœื™ ืœืกื›ืŸ ืืช ื”ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ืฉืœื• ื•ืฉืœ ื”ืืจื’ื•ืŸ,
05:59
and he'll wish it didn't feel so safe and so easy
126
359331
3797
ื•ื”ื•ื ื™ืื—ืœ ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื™ืจื’ื™ืฉ ื›ื” ื‘ื˜ื•ื— ื•ืงืœ
06:03
to keep doing things the way they've always been done.
127
363152
2869
ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืคื™ ืฉื”ื ื ืขืฉื• ืขื“ ื”ื™ื•ื.
06:07
So the leadership development expert in me asks:
128
367353
2993
ืื– ืžื•ืžื—ื™ืช ืคื™ืชื•ื— ื”ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ืฉื‘ื™ ืฉื•ืืœืช:
06:10
How can we better intervene in the formative years
129
370370
2846
ืื™ืš ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืชืขืจื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืžืขืฆื‘ื•ืช
06:13
of our soon-to-be senior leaders?
130
373240
1737
ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ืงืจื•ื‘-ืžื ื”ืœื™ื-ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื•?
06:15
How can we use the fact that John and his peers want to take charge
131
375825
3698
ืื™ืš ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื’'ื•ืŸ ื•ื”ืงื•ืœื’ื•ืช ืฉืœื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืงื—ืช ืื—ืจื™ื•ืช
06:19
of their professional destinies
132
379547
1666
ืขืœ ื”ื’ื•ืจืœ ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ ืฉืœื”ื
06:21
and get them ready to lead the organizations of the future,
133
381237
3027
ื•ืœื”ื›ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื ืœื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืžื—ืจ,
06:24
rather than let them succumb to the catch-22
134
384288
2867
ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืœื”ื›ื ืข ืœืžืœื›ื•ื“-22
06:27
that will perfectly prepare them to lead the organizations of the past?
135
387179
4093
ืฉื™ื›ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžื•ืฉืœื ืœื ื”ืœ ืืช ื”ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืืชืžื•ืœ?
06:32
We'll have to start by coming to terms with a very real paradox,
136
392956
3097
ื ืฆื˜ืจืš ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืคืจื“ื•ืงืก ืืžื™ืชื™ ืžืื•ื“,
06:36
which is this:
137
396077
1290
ืฉื”ื•ื ื–ื”:
06:37
the best form of learning happens on the job --
138
397391
2400
ืฆื•ืจืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืชืจื—ืฉืช ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” --
06:39
not in a classroom, not via e-modules.
139
399815
2623
ืœื ื‘ื›ื™ืชื”, ื•ืœื ื‘ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ืžืงื•ื•ื ื™ื.
06:43
And the two things we rely on to shape on-the-job learning
140
403028
3254
ื•ืฉื ื™ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืื ื• ืกื•ืžื›ื™ื ืขืœื™ื”ื ืฉื™ืงื‘ืขื• ืืช ืฆื•ืจืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
06:46
are role models and work environments.
141
406306
2637
ื”ื ืžื•ื“ืœื™ื ืœื—ื™ืงื•ื™ ื•ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
06:49
And as we just talked about,
142
409559
1440
ื•ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืžืจื ื• ืžืžืฉ ื”ืจื’ืข,
06:51
our role models are in behavior boot camp right now,
143
411023
3642
ื”ืžื•ื“ืœื™ื ืœื—ื™ืงื•ื™ ืฉืœื ื• ื ืžืฆืื™ื ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ื˜ื™ืจื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช,
06:54
and our work environments are undergoing unprecedented disruption.
144
414689
4164
ื•ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื•ืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื ืžืฆืื•ืช ื‘ืชื”ืœื™ืš ื”ืคืจืขื” ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ื“ื•ื’ืžืชื•.
06:58
We are systematically changing just about everything
145
418877
3236
ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืฉื ื™ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืกื™ืกื˜ืžื˜ื™ ื‘ืขืจืš ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืืคืฉืจื™
07:02
about how organizations work,
146
422137
2039
ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื“ืจืš ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื,
07:04
but by and large, still measuring and rewarding behavior
147
424200
3314
ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื’ื“ื•ืœ, ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžื•ื“ื“ื™ื ื•ืžืขื•ื“ื“ื™ื ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช
07:07
based on old metrics,
148
427538
1769
ื‘ื”ืชื‘ืกืก ืขืœ ื”ืžื“ื“ื™ื ื”ื™ืฉื ื™ื,
07:09
because changing those systems takes time.
149
429331
2129
ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืฉื™ื˜ื•ืช ืืœื” ืœื•ืงื— ื–ืžืŸ.
07:12
So, if we can't fully count on role models or the system right now,
150
432113
5783
ืื– ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืกืžื•ืš ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžืœื ืขืœ ืžื•ื“ืœื™ื ืœื—ื™ืงื•ื™ ืื• ืขืœ ื”ืฉื™ื˜ื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื•,
07:17
it's on John to not miss this critical development window.
151
437920
3338
ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ืื—ืจื™ื•ืชื• ืฉืœ ื’'ื•ืŸ ืœื ืœืคืกืคืก ืืช ื—ืœื•ืŸ ื”ื”ืชืคืชื—ื•ืช ื”ื–ื”.
07:21
Yes, he'll need Jane's help to do it,
152
441817
2564
ื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื™ืฆื˜ืจืš ืืช ื”ืขื–ืจื” ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”,
07:24
but the responsibility is his because the risks are actually his.
153
444405
3761
ืื‘ืœ ื”ืื—ืจื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื ืฉืœื• ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื”ืกื™ื›ื•ื ื™ื ื”ื ื‘ืขืฆื ืฉืœื•.
07:28
Either he inherits an organization that is failing
154
448582
3339
ืื• ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ื™ืจืฉ ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื›ื•ืฉืœ
07:31
because of stubbornly old-fashioned leadership,
155
451945
2722
ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืชืขืงืฉ ืœื ื”ืœ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืืจื›ืื™,
07:34
or he himself fails to build the capabilities to lead one
156
454691
3647
ืื• ืฉื”ื•ื ืขืฆืžื• ื ื›ืฉืœ ื‘ื‘ื ื™ื™ืช ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœื•ืช ืœื”ื•ื‘ื™ืœ ืื—ื“
07:38
that transformed while he was playing it safe.
157
458362
2603
ืฉืฉื™ื ื” ืืช ืฆื•ืจืชื•, ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืขืกื•ืง ื‘ืœืฉื—ืง ืื•ืชื” ื‘ื˜ื•ื—.
07:42
So now the question is, where does John start?
158
462677
3256
ืื– ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื, ืื™ืคื” ื’'ื•ืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ?
07:47
If I were John, I'd ask to start flying the plane.
159
467114
3258
ืื ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื’'ื•ืŸ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื‘ืงืฉืช ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื”ื˜ื™ืก ืืช ื”ืžื˜ื•ืก.
07:51
For my 13th birthday, my grandpa, a former Navy pilot,
160
471474
3391
ืœื™ื•ื ื”ื”ื•ืœื“ืช ื”-13 ืฉืœื™, ืกื‘ื ืฉืœื™, ื˜ื™ื™ืก ื”ืฆื™ ืœืฉืขื‘ืจ,
07:54
gave me the gift of being able to fly a very small plane.
161
474889
3060
ื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืžืชื ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืœื”ื˜ื™ืก ืžื˜ื•ืก ืงื˜ืŸ ืžืื•ื“.
07:59
Once we were safely airborne,
162
479433
1943
ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ื‘ื‘ื˜ื—ื”,
08:01
the pilot turned over the controls, folded his hands,
163
481400
2805
ื”ื˜ื™ื™ืก ืžืกืจ ืืช ื”ื‘ืงืจื™ื, ืฉื™ืœื‘ ืืช ืืฆื‘ืขื•ืชื™ื•,
08:04
and he let me fly.
164
484229
1432
ื•ื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืœื˜ื•ืก.
08:07
It was totally terrifying.
165
487016
1494
ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื—ืจื™ื“ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ.
08:09
It was exhilarating, but it was also on-the-job learning with a safety net.
166
489215
4373
ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืจื’ืฉ, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื’ื ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืชื•ืš ื›ื“ื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขื ืจืฉืช ื‘ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ.
08:14
And because it was real,
167
494106
1687
ื•ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ืืžืช,
08:15
I really learned how to do it myself.
168
495817
2063
ื‘ืืžืช ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆืžื™.
08:19
Likewise, in the workplace, every meeting to be led,
169
499017
3381
ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืื•ืคืŸ, ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ื›ืœ ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื”ืœ,
08:22
every decision to be made
170
502422
1497
ื›ืœ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื—ืœื™ื˜,
08:23
can be a practice flight
171
503943
1411
ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื˜ื™ืกืช ืื™ืžื•ืŸ
08:25
for someone who could really use the learning experience
172
505378
2621
ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื—ื•ื•ื™ืช ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“
08:28
and the chance to figure out how to do it their own way.
173
508023
2886
ื•ื”ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื“ืจื›ื ืฉืœื”ื.
08:31
So instead of caving, John needs to knock on Jane's door,
174
511412
3988
ืื– ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืœื”ืชื—ืคืจ, ื’'ื•ืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืงื™ืฉ ืขืœ ื“ืœืชื” ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ
08:35
propose a creative strategy
175
515424
1651
ืœื”ืฆื™ืข ืืกื˜ืจื˜ื’ื™ื” ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ืช
08:37
for having the meeting without the eight pre-meetings,
176
517099
3264
ื›ื“ื™ ืœื ื”ืœ ืืช ื”ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื” ื‘ืœื™ ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืงื“ื-ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช,
08:40
show her he's thought through the trade-offs
177
520387
2712
ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ืฉื‘ ืœืขื•ืžืง ืขืœ ื”ืื™ื–ื•ืŸ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื‘ืขื“ ื•ื”ื ื’ื“
08:43
and ask for her support to do it differently.
178
523123
2294
ื•ืœื‘ืงืฉ ืืช ืชืžื™ื›ืชื” ื‘ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืื—ืจืช.
08:47
This isn't going to be easy for Jane.
179
527117
1806
ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืงืœ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ.
08:49
Not only does she need to trust John,
180
529772
2800
ืœื ืจืง ืฉื”ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืกืžื•ืš ืขืœ ื’'ื•ืŸ,
08:52
she needs to accept that with a little bit of room to try his hand at leading,
181
532596
5493
ื”ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืงื‘ืœ ื–ืืช ืขื ืžืขื˜ ืžืจื—ื‘ ืœื ืกื•ืช ืืช ื”ืฉื™ื˜ื” ืฉืœื• ื‘ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ,
08:58
John will inevitably start leading in some ways
182
538113
2571
ื’'ื•ืŸ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื‘ืœืชื™ ื ืžื ืข ื™ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื ื”ืœ ื‘ื“ืจื›ื™ื ืžืกื•ื™ื™ืžื•ืช
09:00
that are far more John than Jane.
183
540708
2691
ืฉื”ืŸ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’'ื•ืŸ ืžืืฉืจ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ.
09:04
And this won't be an indictment of her.
184
544589
1938
ื•ื–ื” ืœื ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื”ื™ื ืขืฉืชื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืจืข.
09:06
Rather, it will be individualism.
185
546850
2105
ืืœื, ืฉืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื‘ืื™ื ื“ื™ื‘ื™ื“ื•ืืœื™ื–ื.
09:08
It will be progress.
186
548979
1346
ื–ื• ืชื”ื™ื” ื”ืชืงื“ืžื•ืช.
09:10
And it might even be a chance for Jane to learn a thing or two
187
550349
3019
ื•ืื•ืœื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ืชื”ื™ื” ืœื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื• ืฉื ื™ื™ื
09:13
to take her own leadership game to the next level.
188
553392
2407
ื›ื“ื™ ืœืงื—ืช ืืช ื”ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ืฉืœื” ื’ื ื›ืŸ ืœืจืžื” ื”ื‘ืื”.
09:17
I work with another senior client who summed up this dilemma beautifully
189
557678
3381
ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ืช ืขื ืœืงื•ื— ื‘ื›ื™ืจ ืื—ืจ ืฉืกื™ื›ื ื“ื™ืœืžื” ื–ื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื ืคืœื
09:21
when we were talking about why he and his peers
190
561083
2206
ื›ืฉื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื• ืขืœ ืžื“ื•ืข ื”ื•ื ื•ื”ืงื•ืœื’ื•ืช ืฉืœื•
09:23
haven't empowered the folks below them with more decision rights.
191
563313
3405
ืœื ื—ื™ื–ืงื• ืืช ื”ื›ืคื•ืคื™ื ืœื”ื ืขื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื—ืœื˜ื”.
09:26
He said,
192
566742
1150
ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ,
09:28
"We haven't done it because we just don't trust
193
568925
2192
"ืœื ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื ื‘ื•ื˜ื—ื™ื
09:31
that they're going to make the right decisions.
194
571141
2445
ื‘ื›ืš ืฉื”ื ื™ืงื‘ืœื• ืืช ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ื”ื ื›ื•ื ื•ืช.
09:33
But then again, how could they?
195
573610
1731
ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจื™, ืื™ืš ื”ื ื™ื•ื›ืœื•?
09:35
We've just never given them decisions to practice with."
196
575365
2622
ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื ืชื ื• ืœื”ื ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืœื”ืชืืžืŸ ืขืœื™ื”ืŸ."
09:39
So I'm not advocating that Jane hands over the controls
197
579162
3371
ืื– ื–ื” ืœื ืฉืื ื™ ืžื™ื™ืขืฆืช ืฉื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ืชืขื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืžื•ืฉื›ื•ืช
09:42
and folds her hands indefinitely,
198
582557
2090
ื•ืชืฉืœื‘ ืืช ืืฆื‘ืขื•ืชื™ื” ืœืœื ื”ื’ื‘ืœืช ื–ืžืŸ.
09:44
but what I am saying
199
584671
1177
ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ื›ืŸ ืื•ืžืจืช
09:45
is that if she doesn't engineer learning and practice
200
585872
2572
ื–ื” ืฉืื ื”ื™ื ืœื ืชื”ื ื“ืก ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื•ืื™ืžื•ืŸ
09:48
right into John's day today,
201
588468
2363
ืœืชื•ืš ื”ื™ื•ื ืฉืœ ื’'ื•ืŸ ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื•ื,
09:50
he'll never be able to do what she does,
202
590855
2326
ื”ื•ื ืœืขื•ืœื ืœื ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืขื•ืฉื”,
09:53
much less do it any differently than she does it.
203
593205
2937
ื‘ื˜ื— ืœื ืื—ืจืช ืžืื™ืš ืฉื”ื™ื ืขื•ืฉื” ืืช ื–ื”.
09:57
Finally, since we're going to be pushing both of them outside their comfort zones,
204
597534
4081
ื•ืœื‘ืกื•ืฃ, ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื“ื—ื•ืฃ ืืช ืฉื ื™ื”ื ืžื—ื•ืฅ ืœืื™ื–ื•ืจ ื”ื ื•ื—ื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื,
10:01
we need some outside coaches
205
601639
1414
ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ื›ืžื” ืžืืžื ื™ื ืžื‘ื—ื•ืฅ
10:03
to make sure this isn't a case of the blind leading the blind.
206
603077
3058
ืฉื™ื•ื•ื“ืื• ืฉืื™ืŸ ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืžืงืจื” ืฉืœ ืขื™ื•ื•ืจ ื”ืžื•ืœื™ืš ืขื™ื•ื•ืจ ืื—ืจ.
10:06
But what if instead of using coaches
207
606650
2445
ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืื ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืžืืžื ื™ื
10:09
to coach each one of them to individually be more effective,
208
609119
3389
ื›ื“ื™ ืœืืžืŸ ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืืคืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืื™ื ื“ื™ื‘ื™ื“ื•ืืœื™,
10:12
we started coaching the interactions between them?
209
612532
2966
ื ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืืžืŸ ืืช ื”ืื™ื ื˜ืจืงืฆื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื?
10:16
If I could wave my magic wand,
210
616114
2173
ืื ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœื”ื ื™ืฃ ืืช ืฉืจื‘ื™ื˜ ื”ืงืกืžื™ื ืฉืœื™,
10:18
I would have coaches sitting in the occasional team meeting
211
618311
2763
ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื•ืฉื™ื‘ื” ืืช ื”ืžืืžื ื™ื ื‘ื™ืฉื™ื‘ืช ืฆื•ื•ืช ืืงืจืื™ืช
10:21
of Jane and her direct reports,
212
621098
1864
ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ืฉืœ ื”ื›ืคื•ืคื™ื ืœื”,
10:22
debriefing solely on how well they cooperated that day.
213
622986
3579
ื•ืžืชืฉืืœืช ืจืง ืขืœ ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื”ื ืฉื™ืชืคื• ืคืขื•ืœื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื™ื•ื.
10:27
I would put a coach in the periodic feedback session between Jane and John,
214
627646
4789
ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉืžื” ืžืืžืŸ ื‘ืฉื™ื—ืช ืžืฉื•ื‘ ืชืงื•ืคืชื™ืช ื‘ื™ืŸ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ื’'ื•ืŸ,
10:32
and just like a couples' therapist coaches on communication,
215
632459
3136
ื•ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื• ืžื˜ืคืœ ื–ื•ื’ื™, ืžืืžื ืช ืขืœ ืชืงืฉื•ืจืช,
10:35
they would offer advice and observations
216
635619
2134
ื”ื ื™ืฆื™ืขื• ืขืฆื” ื•ืชื•ื‘ื ื•ืช
10:37
on how that conversation can go better in the future.
217
637777
2635
ืขืœ ืื™ืš ื”ืชืงืฉื•ืจืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืขืชื™ื“.
10:41
Was Jane simply reinforcing what Jane would have done?
218
641021
3044
ื”ืื ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื—ื™ื–ืงื” ืืช ืžื” ืฉื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื•ืฉื”?
10:44
Or was Jane really helping John
219
644089
1650
ืื• ื”ืื ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืืžืช ืขื–ืจื” ืœื’'ื•ืŸ
10:45
think through what to do for the organization?
220
645763
2894
ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืืจื’ื•ืŸ?
10:49
That is seriously hard mentorship to provide,
221
649174
2536
ื–ื•ื”ื™ ื—ื•ื ื›ื•ืช ืฉื‘ืืžืช ืงืฉื” ืœืชืช,
10:51
and even the best leaders need help doing it,
222
651734
2486
ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืขื–ืจื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช,
10:54
which is why we need more coaches coaching more leaders,
223
654244
3304
ื•ื–ื• ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืืžื ื™ื ืฉื™ืืžื ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื ื”ืœื™ื,
10:57
more in real time
224
657572
1555
ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืืžืช
10:59
versus any one leader behind closed doors.
225
659151
2672
ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœืžื ื”ืœ ื‘ื•ื“ื“ ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ื“ืœืชื™ื™ื ืกื’ื•ืจื•ืช.
11:03
Around 20 years ago, Warren Buffet gave a school lecture
226
663649
3512
ืœืคื ื™ ื›-20 ืฉื ื”, ื•ื•ืจืŸ ื‘ืืคื˜ ื ืชืŸ ื”ืจืฆืื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืกืคืจ
11:07
in which he said, "The chains of habit are too light to be felt
227
667185
4519
ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ, "ื”ืฉืœืฉืœืื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžื ื”ื’ื™ื ืงืœื•ืช ืžื“ื™ ืžื›ื“ื™ ืฉื ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืื•ืชืŸ
11:11
until they're too heavy to be broken."
228
671728
2584
ืขื“ ืฉื”ืŸ ื ืขืฉื•ืช ื›ื‘ื“ื•ืช ืžื“ื™ ืžื›ื“ื™ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ื ื™ืชืŸ ืœืฉื‘ื•ืจ ืื•ืชืŸ."
11:15
I couldn't agree more,
229
675061
1485
ืื ื™ ืžืกื›ื™ืžื” ืขื ื›ืœ ืžื™ืœื”,
11:16
and I see it happening with our future leaders in training.
230
676570
3391
ื•ืจืื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ืงื•ืจื” ืขื ืžื ื”ืœื™ ื”ืขืชื™ื“ ื‘ืื™ืžื•ื ื™ื.
11:20
Can we and they be doing more to build their leadership capabilities
231
680740
4593
ื”ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื•ื”ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื•ืช ื”ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ืฉืœื”ื
11:25
while they're still open, eager
232
685357
2203
ื›ืฉื”ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืคืชื•ื—ื™ื, ืจืขื‘ื™ื,
11:27
and not too far gone down a path of bad habits we totally saw coming?
233
687584
4659
ื•ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื ืขืžื•ืง ืžื“ื™ ื‘ืžืกืœื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื ืจืขื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ ืจืื™ื ื• ืฉื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื”ื’ื™ืข?
11:33
I wish my college roommates and I called each other out back then
234
693377
3093
ื”ืœื•ื•ืื™ ื•ื”ืฉื•ืชืคื™ื ืฉืœื™ ืœื—ื“ืจ ื‘ืžื›ืœืœื” ื•ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžืขื‘ื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ืงื•ืจืช ื”ื“ื“ื™ืช ืื–
11:36
for the dishes.
235
696494
1241
ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื”ื›ืœื™ื.
11:37
It would have been so much easier to nip that habit in the bud
236
697759
3783
ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืงืœ ืœื”ืจื•ื’ ืืช ื”ื”ืจื’ืœ ื”ื–ื” ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืขื•ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืงื˜ืŸ
11:41
than it is to change it today.
237
701566
1714
ืžืืฉืจ ืœืฉื ื•ืช ืื•ืชื• ื”ื™ื•ื.
11:43
But I still believe in a future for myself full of gleaming sinks
238
703841
3745
ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืืžื™ื ื” ื‘ืขืชื™ื“ ืœืขืฆืžื™ ื”ืžืœื ื‘ื›ื™ื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื•ื”ืงื™ื
11:47
and busy dishwashers,
239
707610
1365
ื•ืžื“ื™ื—ื™ื ื›ืœื™ื ืขืกื•ืงื™ื,
11:48
and so we're working on it,
240
708999
1368
ืื– ืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืขืœ ื–ื”,
11:50
every day, together, moment to moment,
241
710391
3229
ื›ืœ ื™ื•ื, ื™ื—ื“, ื“ืงื” ืื—ืจ ื“ืงื”,
11:53
one dirty dish at a time.
242
713644
1651
ื›ืœื™ ืžืœื•ื›ืœืš ืื—ื“ ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืฉื ื™.
11:56
Thank you.
243
716000
1151
ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื.
11:57
(Applause)
244
717175
4921
(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7