How to break bad management habits before they reach the next generation of leaders | Elizabeth Lyle

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2019-01-23 ใƒป TED


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How to break bad management habits before they reach the next generation of leaders | Elizabeth Lyle

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Mirim Han ๊ฒ€ํ† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:13
I am guilty of stacking my dishes in the sink
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์ €์˜ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์Šต๊ด€์€ ์‹ฑํฌ๋Œ€์— ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡์„ ์Œ“์•„ ๋†“๊ณ 
00:15
and leaving them there for hours.
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๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‚ด๋ฒ„๋ ค๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:18
I fact-checked this with my boyfriend.
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๋‚จ์ž์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ํ™•์ธ์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
00:20
He says it's less like hours and more like days,
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๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ ์Œ“์•„ ๋‘”๋‹ค๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
00:23
but that's not the point.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ ์š”.
00:25
The point is sometimes I don't finish the job
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡์„ ์Œ“์„ ๋Œ€๋กœ ์Œ“์•„
00:27
until the stack has gotten high enough that it's peaking over the lip of the sink
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์”ฝํฌ๋Œ€์— ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ์„œ ์ œ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์˜ ๊น”๋”์Ÿ์ด๊ฐ€ ์ฐธ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€
00:31
and my inner clean freak loses it.
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์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฏธ๋ฃฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
00:34
This charming habit developed when I was in college,
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์ €์˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์ƒ ๋•Œ ์ƒ๊ฒผ๊ณ 
00:37
and I had tons of excuses.
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ํ•‘๊ณ„๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜€์ฃ .
00:39
"I'm running to class!"
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"์ˆ˜์—…์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„!"
00:40
"What's one more dirty dish in the sink?"
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"์‹ฑํฌ๋Œ€์— ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์Œ“๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ ์–ด๋•Œ์„œ?"
00:42
Or my favorite, "I think I can save time and water
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž์ฃผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ง์€ ์ด๋žฌ์ฃ . "๋‚˜์ค‘์— ํ•œ๊บผ๋ฒˆ์— ํ•˜๋ฉด
00:46
if I do them all together later."
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์‹œ๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋ฌผ์„ ์•„๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด."
00:48
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:49
But it's not like I needed those excuses, because nobody was calling me on it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ•‘๊ณ„๋Š” ํ•„์š” ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ๋ผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
00:54
I wish they had.
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๊ทธ๋žฌ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•˜์„ ํ…๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
00:55
I look back now
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด
00:56
and realize that every time I didn't put a dish in the dishwasher
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๊ทธ๋ฆ‡์„ ์Œ“์•„ ๋‘” ์ฑ„๋กœ ๋ฐฉ์น˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
00:59
and finish what I started,
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์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋งˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด
01:01
it became more second nature to me,
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๊ฐˆ์ˆ˜๋ก ์•„์ฃผ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
01:03
and I grew less likely to question why I was doing it.
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์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์‚ผ์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:06
Today, I'm a 30-something, certified dirty-dish leaver,
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์ „ 30๋Œ€์ด๊ณ  ์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง“๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์Œ“์•„ ๋‘๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ
01:10
and breaking this habit is hard.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์„ ์—†์• ๋Š” ๊ฑด ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
So when I'm not at home avoiding the sink,
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์‹ฑํฌ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ํ”ผํ•ด ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ
01:16
I work with large, complex organizations on leadership transformation
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์ „ ๋Œ€๊ธฐ์—…์—์„œ ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
01:20
in times of change.
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์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:21
My job is to work with the most senior leaders
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๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
01:25
to examine how they lead today
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๊ธฐ์—…์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋Œ์–ด ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ 
01:26
and establish habits better suited for the future.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋” ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์˜ ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
01:30
But what interests me more than senior leaders these days
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์š”์ฆ˜ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
01:33
is what's going on with the junior ones.
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์ฃผ๋‹ˆ์–ด ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ˜„์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:35
We call them "middle managers,"
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๊ทธ๋“ค์„ '์ค‘๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž'๋ผ๊ณ ๋„ ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ฃ .
01:37
but it's a term I wish we could change
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ช…์นญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:39
because what they are is our pipeline of future talent for the C-suite,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ–ฅํ›„ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ๋  ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๊ณ 
01:42
and they are starting to leave their dishes in the sink.
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์‹ฑํฌ๋Œ€์— ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ ๋‘๋Š” ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
01:46
While organizations are hiring people like me
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๊ธฐ์—…์ด ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•ด์„œ
01:48
to redevelop their senior leaders for the future,
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๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์˜ ์ž์งˆ์„ ๋” ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ
01:51
outdated leadership habits are forming right before our eyes
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ํ›„์ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•  ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
01:55
among the middle managers who will one day take their place.
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์‹œ๋Œ€์— ๋’ค๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ์Šต๊ด€์ด ํ˜•์„ฑ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:59
We need middle managers and senior leaders to work together,
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์ด๋Š” ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๋“ค์ด
02:03
because this is a big problem.
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:05
Organizations are evolving rapidly,
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๊ธฐ์—…์€ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
02:09
and they're counting on their future leaders
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ณ 
02:11
to lead with more speed, flexibility, trust and cooperation than they do today.
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์œ ์—ฐ์„ฑ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ฉฐ, ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ ์ฃผ๊ธธ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:18
I believe there is a window of time in the formative middle-manager years
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์ค‘๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž ํ˜•์„ฑ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์˜ ํ‹€์„ ๋งˆ๋ จํ• 
02:22
when we can lay the groundwork for that kind of leadership,
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์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
but we're missing it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋†“์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
02:26
Why?
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์™œ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
02:27
Because our future leaders are learning from senior role models
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์€ ์•„์ง ๋กค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ๋  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋œ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ์„œ
02:30
who just aren't ready to role model yet,
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๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
02:32
much less change the systems that made them so successful.
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๋”๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๋“ค์„ ์„ฑ๊ณต์— ์ด๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
02:37
We need middle managers and senior leaders to work together
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์ค‘๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉฐ
02:40
to define a new way of leading
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒฝ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ 
02:42
and develop each other to rise to the occasion.
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์œ„๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์„œ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:45
One of my favorite senior clients --
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ํ•œ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
02:47
we'll call her Jane --
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์ œ์ธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
02:49
is a poster child for what's old-fashioned in leadership today.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ตฌ์‹ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ๋ถ„์ด์ฃ .
02:52
She rose to her C-level position
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์ œ์ธ์€ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋กœ
02:55
based on exceptional individual performance.
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์ตœ๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์˜ฌ๋ž์–ด์š”.
02:57
Come hell or high water, Jane got the job done,
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๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ์ผ์„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:01
and today, she leads like it.
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์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
03:03
She is tough to please,
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์ œ์ธ์€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ 
03:05
she doesn't have a lot of time for things that's aren't mission-critical,
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์—…๋ฌด์— ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ์—๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์ด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ
03:08
and she really doesn't trust anyone's judgment more than her own.
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๋ณธ์ธ ๋ง๊ณ ๋Š” ์–ด๋А ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์˜ ํŒ๋‹จ๋„ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
03:11
Needless to say, Jane's in behavior boot camp.
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์—„๊ฒฉํ•œ ๊ทœ์œจ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋งํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†๊ณ ์š”.
03:15
Those deeply ingrained habits
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๋ชธ์— ๊นŠ์ด ๋ฐด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์Šต๊ด€์€
03:17
are deeply inconsistent with where her organization is heading.
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์ œ์ธ์ด ์†ํ•œ ์กฐ์ง๊ณผ๋Š” ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:21
The command-and-control behavior that she was once rewarded for
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์ž์‹ ์„ ์„ฑ๊ณต์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ˆ ์ง€ํœ˜ ํ†ต์ œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์€
03:24
just isn't going to work
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์ด๋™์ด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ์ง€๊ณ , ์ˆ˜ํ‰์ ์ด๋ฉฐ
03:25
in a faster-moving, flatter, more digitally interconnected organization.
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๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์กฐ์ง์—์„œ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ํ†ตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
03:30
What got her here won't get her there.
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์ œ์ธ์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:34
But I want to talk about John,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
03:35
a supertalented, up-and-coming manager who works for Jane,
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์ œ์ธ ๋ฐ‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์žฌ๋Šฅ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์œ ๋งํ•œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž ์กด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:39
because her habits are rubbing off on him.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ์ธ์˜ ์Šต๊ด€์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:41
Recently, he and I were strategizing
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์ตœ๊ทผ ์ €๋Š” ์กด๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
03:44
about a decision we needed to put in front of the CEO, Jane's boss,
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ํšŒ์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ฌ๋ฆด ๊ฒฐ์ • ์‚ฌ์•ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „๋žต์„ ์งœ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
and the rest of Jane's peers.
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03:49
He said to me, "Liz, you're not going to like this,
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์กด์ด ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ . "๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํƒํƒ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
03:52
but the way decisions get made around here
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์ €ํฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ
03:55
is with a bunch of meetings before the meeting."
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๋ณธ ํšŒ์˜ ์ „์— ์ˆ˜์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณ์•ผ ํ•ด์š”."
03:58
I counted.
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์ˆซ์ž๋ฅผ ์„ธ ๋ดค์ฃ .
03:59
That was going to mean eight one-on-ones, exec by exec,
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๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๋งˆ๋‹ค 1 ๋Œ€ 1๋กœ ์ด 8๋ฒˆ
04:03
to make sure each one of them was individually on board enough
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์‹ค์ œ ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก
04:06
that things would go smoothly in the actual meeting.
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๊ฐ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Œ์„ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ•ด ๋‘์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:10
He promised, "It's not how we'll do things in the future,
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์กด์€ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ . "์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
04:13
but it's how we have to do them today."
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์š”."
04:16
John wasn't wrong on either count.
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์กด์€ ์–ด๋А ์ชฝ๋„ ํ‹€๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
04:19
Meetings before the meeting are a necessary evil
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๋ณธ ํšŒ์˜์— ์•ž์„  ํšŒ์˜๋Š”
04:21
in his company today,
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ํ•„์š”์•…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:22
and I didn't like it at all.
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์ „ํ˜€ ํ•„์š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:24
Sure, it was going to be inefficient and annoying,
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๋งž์•„์š”. ์‚ฌ์ „ ํšŒ์˜๋Š” ๋น„ํšจ์œจ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊ท€์ฐฎ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
04:28
but what bothered me most was his confidence
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์‹ซ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€๊ฐ€
04:30
that it's not how they'll do things in the future.
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์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ์กด์˜ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:33
How could he be sure?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ™•์‹ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
04:35
Who was going to change it and when, if it wasn't him and now?
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์กด์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€, ์ง€๊ธˆ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์–ธ์ œ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
04:39
What would the trigger be?
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๊ณ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
04:41
And when it happened,
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์‚ฌ์ „ ํšŒ์˜ ์—†์ด
04:42
would he even know how to have effective meetings without pre-meetings?
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ํšจ์œจ์ ์ธ ํšŒ์˜๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ ๋Š” ์žˆ์—ˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
04:47
He was confidently implying that when he's the boss,
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์กด์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์ƒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ฉด ๊ทœ์น™์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ณ 
04:49
he'll change the rules and do things differently,
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๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
04:52
but all I could see were dishes stacking in the sink
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์ œ๊ฒ ์‹ฑํฌ๋Œ€์— ์Œ“์—ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡๊ณผ
04:55
and a guy with a lot of good excuses.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด๋“ฏํ•œ ๋ณ€๋ช…์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“์ฐฌ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งŒ ๋ณด์˜€์ฃ .
04:57
Worse, a guy who might be out of a job one day
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๋” ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฑด, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š”
05:00
because he learned too late how to lead
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€๋„ ๋ชปํ•œ ์ฑ„
05:02
in the organizations of tomorrow.
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์‹ค์งํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
05:07
These stories really get to me
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์กด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ ๋†’๊ณ  ์Šน์Šน์žฅ๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
05:09
when it's the fast-track, high-potential managers like John
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋ผ๋ฉด ์ฐธ ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
because they're probably the most capable of making waves
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๋ฆฌ๋”์˜ ์ž์งˆ์„ ์•ˆ์—์„œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์žฌ์ •๋ฆฝํ•˜๊ณ 
05:15
and redefining how leaders lead from the inside.
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๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฒฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ž˜ ์ผ์œผํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ํ…๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
05:18
But what we find is that they're often doing the best job at not rocking the boat
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ˜„ ์ฒด์ œ์— ๋„์ „ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
05:22
and challenging the system
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์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:25
because they're trying to impress
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์ž์‹ ์„ ์Šน์ง„์‹œ์ผœ ์ค„ ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„๋“ค๊ณผ
05:26
and make life easier on the senior leaders who will promote them.
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์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋‚จ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
05:30
As someone who also likes to get promoted,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์Šน์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:32
I can hardly blame him.
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๋น„๋‚œํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์–ด์š”.
05:34
It's a catch-22.
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๋”œ๋ ˆ๋งˆ์ฃ .
05:36
But they're also so self-assured
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
05:38
that they'll be able to change their behavior
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๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•  ๊ถŒ์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด
05:40
once they've earned the authority to do things differently,
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ–‰๋™์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ณผ์‹ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:43
and that is a trap.
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ํ•จ์ •์ธ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
05:45
Because if I've learned anything from working with Jane,
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์ œ์ธ๊ณผ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:47
it's that when that day comes,
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์กด์ด ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ๋˜๋ฉด
05:49
John will wonder how he could possibly do anything differently
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์—…์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต์„ ์œ„ํƒœ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด์„œ
05:52
in his high-stakes, high-pressure executive job
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ดํ•ด๊ด€๊ณ„ ์†์— ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค ๋งŽ์€ ์ค‘์—ญ ์ž๋ฆฌ์—์„œ
05:55
without risking his own success and the organization's,
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์ž์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:59
and he'll wish it didn't feel so safe and so easy
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
06:03
to keep doing things the way they've always been done.
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์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋А๊ผˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ›„ํšŒํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
So the leadership development expert in me asks:
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ๋ฐœ๋‹ฌ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
06:10
How can we better intervene in the formative years
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๊ณง ๊ณ ์œ„ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ๋  ์ง๊ธ‰์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ์‹œ๊ธฐ์—
06:13
of our soon-to-be senior leaders?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ฐœ์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?
06:15
How can we use the fact that John and his peers want to take charge
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์กด๊ณผ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์กฐ์ง์„ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ด๋Œ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
06:19
of their professional destinies
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๋”œ๋ ˆ๋งˆ์— ๊ฐ‡ํžˆ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”
06:21
and get them ready to lead the organizations of the future,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ง์—…์  ์šด๋ช…์— ์ฃผ๋„๊ถŒ์„ ์ฅ๊ณ 
06:24
rather than let them succumb to the catch-22
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜ ์กฐ์ง์„ ์ด๋Œ์–ด ๊ฐˆ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธธ
06:27
that will perfectly prepare them to lead the organizations of the past?
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์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?
06:32
We'll have to start by coming to terms with a very real paradox,
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์šฐ์„  ์•„์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ ์ธ ์—ญ์„ค๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:36
which is this:
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ฐ”๋กœ
06:37
the best form of learning happens on the job --
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฐ์›€์€ ๊ต์‹ค์—์„œ๋„, ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ๋„ ์•„๋‹Œ
06:39
not in a classroom, not via e-modules.
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๊ทผ๋ฌด ์ค‘์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์ฃ .
06:43
And the two things we rely on to shape on-the-job learning
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์ผํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
06:46
are role models and work environments.
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๋กค ๋ชจ๋ธ๊ณผ ๊ทผ๋ฌด ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:49
And as we just talked about,
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์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด
06:51
our role models are in behavior boot camp right now,
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๋กค ๋ชจ๋ธ์€ ์—„๊ฒฉํ•œ ํ–‰๋™ ๊ทœ์œจ์„ ์ค‘์š”์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
06:54
and our work environments are undergoing unprecedented disruption.
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๊ทผ๋ฌด ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์€ ์ „๋ก€ ์—†๋Š” ํ˜ผ๋ž€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:58
We are systematically changing just about everything
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๊ธฐ์—…์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด
07:02
about how organizations work,
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์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๊ณ ๋Š” ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
07:04
but by and large, still measuring and rewarding behavior
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์•„์ง๋„ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์ง€ํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํŒ๋‹จํ•˜๊ณ 
07:07
based on old metrics,
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๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด์ƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
because changing those systems takes time.
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๊ธฐ์—…์˜ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
07:12
So, if we can't fully count on role models or the system right now,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์žฅ ๋กค ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด๋‚˜ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
07:17
it's on John to not miss this critical development window.
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์‚ด๋ฆด์ง€ ๋ง์ง€๋Š” ์กด์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
07:21
Yes, he'll need Jane's help to do it,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„  ์ œ์ธ์˜ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
07:24
but the responsibility is his because the risks are actually his.
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์œ„ํ—˜ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์กด์ด๊ธฐ์— ์ฑ…์ž„๋„ ์กด์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:28
Either he inherits an organization that is failing
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์‹œ๋Œ€์— ๋’ค๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด
07:31
because of stubbornly old-fashioned leadership,
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๊ธฐ์šธ์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ธฐ์—…์„ ์ด์–ด๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
07:34
or he himself fails to build the capabilities to lead one
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์•ˆ์ „์ฑ…์„ ๊ฐ•๊ตฌํ•˜๋А๋ผ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋œ ๊ธฐ์—…์„
07:38
that transformed while he was playing it safe.
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์ด๋Œ์–ด ๊ฐˆ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ‚ค์šฐ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜์ฃ .
07:42
So now the question is, where does John start?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์กด์€ ๋ฌด์—‡๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
07:47
If I were John, I'd ask to start flying the plane.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กด์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋จผ์ € ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ ์กฐ์ข…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
07:51
For my 13th birthday, my grandpa, a former Navy pilot,
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์ €์˜ 13๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ƒ์ผ์— ํ•ด๊ตฐ ์ „ํˆฌ๊ธฐ ์กฐ์ข…์‚ฌ์˜€๋˜ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ป˜์„œ
07:54
gave me the gift of being able to fly a very small plane.
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์„ ๋ฌผ๋กœ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์ข…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•ด์ฃผ์…จ์–ด์š”.
07:59
Once we were safely airborne,
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๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ •์ƒ๊ถค๋„์— ์ด๋ฅด์ž
08:01
the pilot turned over the controls, folded his hands,
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ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์กฐ์ข…๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋„˜๊ฒจ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ณ ๋Š” ํŒ”์งฑ์„ ๋‚€ ์ฑ„
08:04
and he let me fly.
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์ข…ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์…จ์–ด์š”.
08:07
It was totally terrifying.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฌด์„œ์› ๊ณ 
08:09
It was exhilarating, but it was also on-the-job learning with a safety net.
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๋˜ ์ •๋ง ์‹ ๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”. ์•ˆ์ „๋ง์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ˜ ํ˜„์žฅ์—์„œ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ์˜€์ฃ .
08:14
And because it was real,
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์‹ค์ œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ์—
08:15
I really learned how to do it myself.
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์กฐ์ข…๋ฒ•์„ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:19
Likewise, in the workplace, every meeting to be led,
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์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ์—ด๊ณ 
08:22
every decision to be made
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๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ
08:23
can be a practice flight
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๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
08:25
for someone who could really use the learning experience
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์ž์‹ ๋งŒ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
08:28
and the chance to figure out how to do it their own way.
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๋น„ํ–‰ ์—ฐ์Šต์ด๋ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
08:31
So instead of caving, John needs to knock on Jane's door,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์กด์€ ์ˆจ์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ์ œ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•ด์„œ
08:35
propose a creative strategy
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์—ฌ๋Ÿ ๋ฒˆ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ „ ํšŒ์˜ ์—†์ด ๋ณธ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ์—ด๋„๋ก
08:37
for having the meeting without the eight pre-meetings,
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์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ธ ์ „๋žต์„ ์ œ์•ˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
show her he's thought through the trade-offs
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์˜๊ฒฌ ๊ตํ™˜์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์ œ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ 
08:43
and ask for her support to do it differently.
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๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ง€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ถ€ํƒํ•ด์•ผ์ฃ .
08:47
This isn't going to be easy for Jane.
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์ œ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
Not only does she need to trust John,
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์กด์„ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์•ผ ํ•จ์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๊ณ 
08:52
she needs to accept that with a little bit of room to try his hand at leading,
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์•ž์—์„œ ์ด๋Œ์–ด ๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
08:58
John will inevitably start leading in some ways
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์กด์€ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์ œ์ธ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งž๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ
09:00
that are far more John than Jane.
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์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:04
And this won't be an indictment of her.
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์ œ์ธ์„ ๋น„๋‚œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
09:06
Rather, it will be individualism.
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์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๊ฐ์ž์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ฃ .
09:08
It will be progress.
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์„œ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜์ž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
And it might even be a chance for Jane to learn a thing or two
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์ œ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์„ ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆด
09:13
to take her own leadership game to the next level.
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๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ .
09:17
I work with another senior client who summed up this dilemma beautifully
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋”œ๋ ˆ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ—ค์ณ ๋‚˜๊ฐ„ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณ ์œ„์ง ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ด ๊ณ„์‹ ๋ฐ์š”.
09:21
when we were talking about why he and his peers
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๊ทธ์™€ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค์ด ์™œ ๋ถ€ํ•˜์ง์›์—๊ฒŒ
09:23
haven't empowered the folks below them with more decision rights.
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๊ฒฐ์ •๊ถŒ์„ ๋” ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋˜ ์ค‘
09:26
He said,
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
09:28
"We haven't done it because we just don't trust
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"๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์˜ณ์€ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆด ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š”
09:31
that they're going to make the right decisions.
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๋ฏฟ์Œ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ฃ .
09:33
But then again, how could they?
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ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์–ด?๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ์š”.
09:35
We've just never given them decisions to practice with."
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๊ฒฐ์ • ๋‚ด๋ฆด ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ „ํ˜€ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”."
09:39
So I'm not advocating that Jane hands over the controls
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ œ์ธ์ด ํ†ต์ œ๊ถŒ์„ ๋„˜๊ฒจ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ 
09:42
and folds her hands indefinitely,
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์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:44
but what I am saying
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
09:45
is that if she doesn't engineer learning and practice
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์ œ์ธ์ด ์กด์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์„
09:48
right into John's day today,
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๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:50
he'll never be able to do what she does,
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์กด์€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์ œ์ธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ณ 
09:53
much less do it any differently than she does it.
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์ œ์ธ๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•  ์ˆ˜์กฐ์ฐจ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
Finally, since we're going to be pushing both of them outside their comfort zones,
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋„๋ก ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
10:01
we need some outside coaches
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์™ธ๋ถ€ ์ฝ”์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‘์–ด
10:03
to make sure this isn't a case of the blind leading the blind.
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์žฅ๋‹˜์ด ์žฅ๋‹˜์„ ์ธ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:06
But what if instead of using coaches
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๊ฐœ๋ณ„์  ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
10:09
to coach each one of them to individually be more effective,
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๋‘ ๋ช…์„ ๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ง€๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
10:12
we started coaching the interactions between them?
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๋‘˜ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉ์„ ์ฝ”์น˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š”?
10:16
If I could wave my magic wand,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ˆ  ์ง€ํŒก์ด๋ฅผ ํ”๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:18
I would have coaches sitting in the occasional team meeting
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์ œ์ธ๊ณผ ๋ถ€ํ•˜ ์ง์›์ด ๊ฐ€๋” ์—ฌ๋Š” ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ
10:21
of Jane and her direct reports,
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๊ทธ๋‚  ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ
10:22
debriefing solely on how well they cooperated that day.
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๋ณด๊ณ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ฝ”์น˜ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
10:27
I would put a coach in the periodic feedback session between Jane and John,
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์ œ์ธ๊ณผ ์กด ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ฃผ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ํ”ผ๋“œ๋ฐฑ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ 
10:32
and just like a couples' therapist coaches on communication,
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ
10:35
they would offer advice and observations
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๋ถ€๋ถ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต ์ƒ๋‹ด์‚ฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
10:37
on how that conversation can go better in the future.
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์ƒ๋‹ด ๊ด€์ฐฐ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ œ์•ˆํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:41
Was Jane simply reinforcing what Jane would have done?
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์ œ์ธ์€ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ–‰๋™์„ ๊ทธ์ € ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
10:44
Or was Jane really helping John
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์กด์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ• ์ง€
10:45
think through what to do for the organization?
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์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ง„์ • ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
10:49
That is seriously hard mentorship to provide,
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์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋œ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ต๊ณ 
10:51
and even the best leaders need help doing it,
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ฉ˜ํ† ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ฃ .
10:54
which is why we need more coaches coaching more leaders,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์„ ์ง€๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฝ”์น˜๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ๋” ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:57
more in real time
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์ˆจ์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ช…์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋” ๋ณด๋‹ค
10:59
versus any one leader behind closed doors.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฆฌ๋”๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ฃ .
11:03
Around 20 years ago, Warren Buffet gave a school lecture
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20์—ฌ ๋…„ ์ „, ์›Œ๋ Œ ๋ฒ„ํ•์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ•์˜์—์„œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:07
in which he said, "The chains of habit are too light to be felt
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"์Šต๊ด€์˜ ์‚ฌ์Šฌ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์›Œ์„œ
11:11
until they're too heavy to be broken."
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๊นจ์ง€๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋А๊ปด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
11:15
I couldn't agree more,
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์ด ๋ง์— ์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋™์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:16
and I see it happening with our future leaders in training.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๋ชจ์Šต์ด์ฃ .
11:20
Can we and they be doing more to build their leadership capabilities
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๋ป”ํžˆ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์Šต๊ด€์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋น ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ 
11:25
while they're still open, eager
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์•„์ง์€ ์—ด์ •์— ์ฐจ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
11:27
and not too far gone down a path of bad habits we totally saw coming?
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๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ–์ถฏ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
11:33
I wish my college roommates and I called each other out back then
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๋Œ€ํ•™ ๋•Œ ๋ฃธ๋ฉ”์ดํŠธ์™€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€ ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์„œ๋กœ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด ์คฌ๋”๋ผ๋ฉด
11:36
for the dishes.
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์ข‹์•˜์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
11:37
It would have been so much easier to nip that habit in the bud
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์Šต๊ด€์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์— ๊ณ ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ
11:41
than it is to change it today.
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์‰ฌ์› ์„ ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
11:43
But I still believe in a future for myself full of gleaming sinks
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ทธ๋•Œ ์„ค๊ฑฐ์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐ˜์ง์ด๋Š” ์‹ฑํฌ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ 
11:47
and busy dishwashers,
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์•„์ง ์ „ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์š”.
11:48
and so we're working on it,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
every day, together, moment to moment,
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๋งค์ผ, ํ•จ๊ป˜, ๋ฐ”๋กœ๋ฐ”๋กœ
11:53
one dirty dish at a time.
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡์€ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ํ•˜๋‚˜์”ฉ์ด์š”.
11:56
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:57
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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