Noah Feldman: Politics and religion are technologies

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I want to argue to you that in fact, politics and religion,
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which are the two primary factors --
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not the sole, but overwhelmingly, the primary factors --
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which are driving towards a war which looks extremely likely --
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bordering on the inevitable at this point,
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whether one is in favor of that or not --
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that politics and religion are, in fact, themselves
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better conceptualized as kinds of technology,
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and subject to kinds of questions that we regularly consider
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in the space of conceptual design.
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Here's what I mean. Politics and --
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let's focus on the political system in particular question here,
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which is the system of democracy.
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Democracy, as a type of politics, is a technology
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for the control and deployment of power.
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You can deploy power in a wide range of ways.
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The famous ones -- despotism is a good one;
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anarchy is a way to not deploy the power in any organized way,
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to do it in a radically diffused fashion;
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and democracy is a set of technologies,
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which have the effect of, in principle,
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diffusing the power source to a large number of people
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and then re-concentrating it in a smaller group of people who govern,
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and who themselves are, in principle, authorized to govern
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by virtue of what the broader public has done.
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Now, consider religion -- in this case Islam,
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which is the religion that, in some direct sense,
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can be said to be precipitating what we're about to enter.
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Let me say parenthetically why I think that's the case,
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because I think it's a potentially controversial statement.
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I would put it in the following equation: no 9/11, no war.
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At the beginning of the Bush administration,
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when President Bush, now President Bush, was running for president,
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he made it very clear that he was not interested in intervening broadly in the world.
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In fact, the trend was for disengagement with the rest of the world.
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That's why we heard about the backing away from the Kyoto protocol, for example.
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After 9/11, the tables were turned.
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And the president decided, with his advisors,
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to undertake some kind of an active intervention in the world around us.
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That began with Afghanistan,
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and when Afghanistan went extremely smoothly and quickly,
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a decision was made through the technology of democracy --
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again, notice, not a perfect technology --
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but through the technology of democracy
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that this administration was going to push in the direction of another war --
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this time, a war in Iraq.
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Now, the reason I begin by saying "no 9/11, no war"
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is that we have to acknowledge that Islam,
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as interpreted by a very, very small, extremely radical group of people,
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was a precipitating cause of the 9/11 attacks --
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the precipitating cause of the 9/11 attacks --
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and as a consequence, at one degree of remove,
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the precipitating cause of the coming war that we're about to be engaged in.
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And I would add that bin Laden and his followers
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are consciously devoted to the goal of creating a conflict between democracy,
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or at least capitalist democracy, on the one hand,
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and the world of Islam as they see and define it.
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Now, how is Islam a technology in this conceptual apparatus?
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Well, it's a technology for, first, salvation in its most basic sense.
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It's meant to be a mechanism for construing the universe
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in a way that will bring about the salvation of the individual believer,
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but it's also meant by the Islamists --
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and I use that term to mean people who believe that Islam --
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they follow the slogan, Islam is the answer to a wide range of questions,
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whether they're social, or political, or personal, or spiritual.
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Within the sphere of people who have that view,
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and it's a large number of people in the Muslim world
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who disagree with bin Laden in his application,
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but agree that Islam is the answer.
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Islam represents a way of engaging the world
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through which one can achieve certain desirable goals.
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And the goals from the perspective of Muslims are, in principle,
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peace, justice and equality,
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but on terms that correspond to traditional Muslim teachings.
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Now, I don't want to leave a misimpression
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by identifying either of these propositions --
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rather, either of these phenomena, democracy or Islam -- as technologies.
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I don't want to suggest that they are a single thing that you can point to.
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And I think a good way to prove this
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is simply to demonstrate to you what my thought process was
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when deciding what to put on the wall behind me when I spoke.
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And I ran immediately into a conceptual problem:
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you can't show a picture of democracy.
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You can show a slogan, or a symbol, or a sign that stands for democracy.
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You can show the Capitol --
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I had the same problem when I was designing the cover
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of my forthcoming book, in fact --
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what do you put on the cover to show democracy?
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And the same problem with respect to Islam.
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You can show a mosque, or you can show worshippers,
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but there's not a straightforward way of depicting Islam.
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That's because these are the kinds of concepts
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that are not susceptible to easy representation.
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Now, it follows from that, that they're deeply contestable.
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It follows from that that all of the people in the world
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who say that they are Muslims can, in principle,
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subscribe to a wide range of different interpretations
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of what Islam really is, and the same is true of democracy.
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In other words, unlike the word hope,
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which one could look up in a dictionary and derive origins for,
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and, perhaps, reach some kind of a consensual use analysis,
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these are essentially contested concepts.
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They're ideas about which people disagree in the deepest possible sense.
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And as a consequence of this disagreement,
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it's very, very difficult for anyone to say,
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"I have the right version of Islam."
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You know, post-9/11, we were treated to the amazing phenomenon
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of George W. Bush saying, "Islam means peace."
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Well, so says George W. Bush.
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Other people would say it means something else.
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Some people would say that Islam means submission.
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Other people would say it means an acknowledgement
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or recognition of God's sovereignty.
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There are a wide range of different things that Islam can mean.
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And ostensibly, the same is true of democracy.
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Some people say that democracy consists basically in elections.
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Other people say no, that's not enough,
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there have to be basic liberal rights: free speech, free press, equality of citizens.
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These are contested points, and it's impossible to answer them by saying,
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"Ah ha, I looked in the right place, and I found out what these concepts mean."
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Now, if Islam and democracy are at present
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in a moment of great confrontation,
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what does that mean?
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Well, you could fit it into a range of different interpretative frameworks.
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You could begin with the one that we began with a couple of days ago,
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which was fear.
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Fear is not an implausible reaction with a war just around the corner
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and with a very, very high likelihood that many, many people are going to die
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as a consequence of this confrontation --
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a confrontation which many, many people
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in the Muslim world do not want,
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many, many people in the American democracy do not want,
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many people elsewhere in the world do not want,
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but which nonetheless is favored by a large enough number of people --
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at least in the relevant space, which is the United States --
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to actually go forward. So fear is not a crazy response at all.
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And I think that that's, in fact, probably the first appropriate response.
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What I want to suggest to you, though, in the next couple of minutes
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is that there's also a hopeful response to this.
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And the hopeful response derives from recognizing
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that Islam and democracy are technologies.
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And by virtue of being technologies, they're manipulable.
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And they're manipulable in ways
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that can produce some extremely positive outcomes.
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What do I have in mind?
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Well, all over the Muslim world there are people
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who take Islam deeply seriously, people who care about Islam,
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for whom it's a source either of faith, or of civilization, or of deep values,
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or just a source of powerful personal identity,
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who think and are saying loudly that Islam and democracy
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are in fact not in conflict, but are in fact deeply compatible.
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And these Muslims -- and it's the vast majority of Muslims --
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disagree profoundly with bin Laden's approach, profoundly.
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And they furthermore think overwhelmingly --
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again one can't speak of every person, but overwhelmingly,
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and one can find this by reading any of the sources
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that they have produced, and they're all over the Internet
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and in all sorts of languages -- one can see that they're saying
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that their concern in their own countries is primarily to free up themselves
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to have choice in the spheres of personal life,
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in the sphere of economics, in the sphere of politics,
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and, yes, in the sphere of religion,
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which is itself closely regulated in most of the Muslim world.
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And many of these Muslims further say
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that their disagreement with the United States
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is that it, in the past and still in the present,
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has sided with autocratic rulers in the Muslim world
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in order to promote America's short-term interests.
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Now, during the Cold War, that may have been
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a defensible position for the United States to take.
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That's an academic question.
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It may be that there was a great war to be fought between West and East,
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and it was necessary on the axis of democracy against communism.
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And it was necessary in some way for these to contradict each other,
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and as a consequence you have to make friends wherever you can get them.
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But now that the Cold War is over,
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there's nearly universal consensus in the Muslim world --
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and pretty close to the same here in the United States,
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if you talk to people and ask them --
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that in principle, there's no reason that democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
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And we see this among activist, practical Muslims,
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like the Muslims who are presently the elected,
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parliamentary, democratic government of Turkey,
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who are behaving pragmatically, not ideologically,
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who are promoting their own religious values,
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who are elected by their own people
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because they were perceived as honest and sincere
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because of their religious values,
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but who do not think that Islam and a democratic system of governance
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are fundamentally incompatible.
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Now, you may say, but surely, what we've seen on television about Saudi Islam
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convinces us that it can't possibly be compatible
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with what we consider the core of democracy --
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namely, free political choice, basic liberty and basic equality.
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But I'm here to tell you that technologies
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are more malleable than that.
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I'm here to tell you that many, many Muslims believe --
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the vast majority, in fact -- in fact I think I would go so far as to say
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that many Muslims in Saudi Arabia believe that the core values of Islam,
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namely acknowledgement of God's sovereignty
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and basic human equality before God,
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are themselves compatible with liberty, equality and free political choice.
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And there are Muslims, many Muslims out there, who are saying precisely this.
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And they're making this argument wherever they're permitted to make it.
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But their governments, needless to say, are relatively threatened by this.
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And for the most part try to stop them from making this argument.
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So, for example, a group of young activists in Egypt
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try to form a party known as the Center Party,
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which advocated the compatibility of Islam and democracy.
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They weren't even allowed to form a party.
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They were actually blocked from even forming a party
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under the political system there. Why?
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Because they would have done extraordinarily well.
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In the most recent elections in the Muslim world --
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which are those in Pakistan, those in Morocco
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and those in Turkey -- in each case,
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people who present themselves to the electorate as Islamic democrats
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were far and away the most successful vote-getters
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every place they were allowed to run freely.
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So in Morocco, for example, they finished third in the political race
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but they were only allowed to contest half the seats.
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So had they contested a larger number of the seats,
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they would have done even better.
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Now what I want to suggest to you is that the reason for hope in this case
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is that we are on the edge of a real transformation in the Muslim world.
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And that's a transformation in which many sincerely believing Muslims --
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who care very, very deeply about their traditions,
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who do not want to compromise those values --
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believe, through the malleability of the technology of democracy
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and the malleability and synthetic capability of the technology of Islam,
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that these two ideas can work together.
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Now what would that look like?
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What does it mean to say that there's an Islamic democracy?
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Well, one thing is, it's not going to look identical
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to democracy as we know it in the United States.
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That may be a good thing, in light of some of the criticisms we've heard today --
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for example, in the regulatory context -- of what democracy produces.
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It will also not look exactly the way either the people in this room,
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or Muslims out in the rest of the world --
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I don't mean to imply there aren't Muslims here, there probably are --
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conceptualize Islam.
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It will be transformative of Islam as well.
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And as a result of this convergence,
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this synthetic attempt to make sense of these two ideas together,
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there's a real possibility that, instead of a clash
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of Islamic civilization -- if there is such a thing --
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and democratic civilization -- if there is such a thing --
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we'll in fact have close compatibility.
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Now, I began with the war because it's the elephant in the room,
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and you can't pretend that there isn't about to be a war
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if you're talking about these issues.
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The war has tremendous risks for the model that I'm describing
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because it's very possible that as a consequence of a war,
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many Muslims will conclude that the United States
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is not the kind of place that they want to emulate
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with respect to its forms of political government.
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On the other hand, there's a further possibility that many Americans,
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swept up in the fever of a war, will say, and feel, and think
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that Islam is the enemy somehow --
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that Islam ought to be construed as the enemy.
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And even though, for political tactical reasons,
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the president has been very, very good about saying that Islam is not the enemy,
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nonetheless, there's a natural impulse when one enters war
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to think of the other side as an enemy.
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And one furthermore has the impulse to generalize, as much as possible,
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in defining who that enemy is.
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So the risks are very great.
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On the other hand, the capacities for positive results in the aftermath of a war
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are also not to be underestimated,
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even by, and I would say especially by, people
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who are deeply skeptical about whether we should go to war in the first place.
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Those who oppose the war ought to realize that if a war happens,
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it cannot be the right strategy,
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either pragmatically, or spiritually, or morally, to say after the war,
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"Well, let's let it all run itself out, and play out however it wants to play out,
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because we opposed the war in the first place."
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That's not the way human circumstances operate.
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You face the circumstances you have in front of you
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and you go forward.
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Well, what I'm here to say then is,
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for people who are skeptical about the war,
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it's especially important to recognize that in the aftermath of the war
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there is a possibility for the government of the United States
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and the Muslim peoples with whom it interacts
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to create real forms of government that are truly democratic
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and also truly Islamic.
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And it is crucial -- it is crucial in a practical, activist way --
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for people who care about these issues to make sure
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that within the technology of democracy, in this system,
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they exercise their preferences, their choices and their voices
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to encourage that outcome.
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That's a hopeful message,
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but it's a message that's hopeful only if you understand it
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as incurring serious obligation for all of us.
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And I think that we are capable of taking on that obligation,
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but only if we put what we can into it.
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And if we do, then I don't think that the hope will be unwarranted altogether.
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Thanks.
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