How Boredom Can Lead to Your Most Brilliant Ideas | Manoush Zomorodi | TED

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How Boredom Can Lead to Your Most Brilliant Ideas | Manoush Zomorodi | TED

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My son and the iPhone were born three weeks apart
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in June 2007.
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So while those early adopters were lined up outside,
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waiting to get their hands on this amazing new gadget,
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I was stuck at home with my hands full of something else
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that was sending out constant notifications --
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(Laughter)
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a miserable, colicky baby
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who would only sleep in a moving stroller with complete silence.
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I literally was walking 10 to 15 miles a day,
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and the baby weight came off.
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That part was great.
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But man, was I bored.
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Before motherhood, I had been a journalist
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who rushed off when the Concorde crashed.
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I was one of the first people into Belgrade
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when there was a revolution in Serbia.
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Now, I was exhausted.
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This walking went on for weeks.
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It was only until about three months in that something shifted, though.
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As I pounded the pavement,
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my mind started to wander, too.
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I began imagining what I would do when I finally did sleep again.
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So the colic did fade,
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and I finally got an iPhone
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and I put all those hours of wandering into action.
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I created my dream job hosting a public radio show.
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So there was no more rushing off to war zones,
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but thanks to my new smartphone,
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I could be a mother and a journalist.
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I could be on the playground and on Twitter at the same time.
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Yeah, well, when I thought that,
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when the technology came in and took over,
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that is when I hit a wall.
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So, I want you to picture this:
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you host a podcast, and you have to prove
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that the investment of precious public radio dollars in you
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is worth it.
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My goal was to increase my audience size tenfold.
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So one day, I sat down to brainstorm,
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as you do,
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and I came up barren.
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This was different than writer's block, right?
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It wasn't like there was something there waiting to be unearthed.
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There was just nothing.
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And so I started to think back:
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When was the last time I actually had a good idea?
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Yeah, it was when I was pushing that damn stroller.
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Now all the cracks in my day were filled with phone time.
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I checked the headlines while I waited for my latte.
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I updated my calendar while I was sitting on the couch.
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Texting turned every spare moment
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into a chance to show to my coworkers and my dear husband
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what a responsive person I was,
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or at least it was a chance to find another perfect couch
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for my page on Pinterest.
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I realized that I was never bored.
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And anyway, don't only boring people get bored?
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But then I started to wonder:
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What actually happens to us when we get bored?
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Or, more importantly: What happens to us if we never get bored?
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And what could happen if we got rid of this human emotion entirely?
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I started talking to neuroscientists and cognitive psychologists,
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and what they told me was fascinating.
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It turns out that when you get bored,
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you ignite a network in your brain called the "default mode."
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So our body, it goes on autopilot while we're folding the laundry
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or we're walking to work,
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but actually that is when our brain gets really busy.
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Here's boredom researcher Dr. Sandi Mann.
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(Audio) Dr. Sandi Mann: Once you start daydreaming
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and allow your mind to really wander,
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you start thinking a little bit beyond the conscious,
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a little bit into the subconscious,
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which allows sort of different connections to take place.
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It's really awesome, actually.
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Manoush Zomorodi: Totally awesome, right?
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So this is my brain in an fMRI,
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and I learned that in the default mode is when we connect disparate ideas,
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we solve some of our most nagging problems,
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and we do something called "autobiographical planning."
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This is when we look back at our lives,
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we take note of the big moments, we create a personal narrative,
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and then we set goals
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and we figure out what steps we need to take to reach them.
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But now we chill out on the couch also while updating a Google Doc
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or replying to email.
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We call it "getting shit done,"
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but here's what neuroscientist Dr. Daniel Levitin says
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we're actually doing.
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(Audio) Dr. Daniel Levitin: Every time you shift your attention
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from one thing to another,
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the brain has to engage a neurochemical switch
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that uses up nutrients in the brain to accomplish that.
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So if you're attempting to multitask,
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you know, doing four or five things at once,
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you're not actually doing four or five things at once,
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because the brain doesn't work that way.
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Instead, you're rapidly shifting from one thing to the next,
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depleting neural resources as you go.
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(Audio) MZ: So switch, switch, switch, you're using glucose, glucose, glucose.
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(Audio) DL: Exactly right, and we have a limited supply of that stuff.
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MZ: A decade ago, we shifted our attention at work
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every three minutes.
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Now we do it every 45 seconds,
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and we do it all day long.
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The average person checks email 74 times a day,
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and switches tasks on their computer
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566 times a day.
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I discovered all this talking to professor of informatics,
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Dr. Gloria Mark.
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(Audio) Dr. Gloria Mark: So we find that when people are stressed,
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they tend to shift their attention more rapidly.
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We also found, strangely enough,
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that the shorter the amount of sleep that a person gets,
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the more likely they are to check Facebook.
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So we're in this vicious, habitual cycle.
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MZ: But could this cycle be broken?
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What would happen if we broke this vicious cycle?
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Maybe my listeners could help me find out.
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What if we reclaimed those cracks in our day?
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Could it help us jump-start our creativity?
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We called the project "Bored and Brilliant."
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And I expected, you know, a couple hundred people to play along,
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but thousands of people started signing up.
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And they told me the reason they were doing it
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was because they were worried that their relationship with their phone
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had grown kind of ... "codependent," shall we say.
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(Audio) Man: The relationship between a baby and its teddy bear
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or a baby and its binky
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or a baby that wants its mother's cradle
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when it's done with being held by a stranger --
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(Laughs)
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that's the relationship between me and my phone.
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(Audio) Woman: I think of my phone like a power tool:
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extremely useful, but dangerous if I'm not handling it properly.
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(Audio) Woman 2: If I don't pay close attention,
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I'll suddenly realize that I've lost an hour of time
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doing something totally mindless.
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MZ: OK, but to really measure any improvement,
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we needed data, right?
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Because that's what we do these days.
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So we partnered with some apps that would measure how much time
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we were spending every day on our phone.
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If you're thinking it's ironic
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that I asked people to download another app
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so that they would spend less time on their phones:
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yeah, but you gotta meet people where they are.
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(Laughter)
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So before challenge week,
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we were averaging two hours a day on our phones
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and 60 pickups,
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you know, like, a quick check, did I get a new email?
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Here's what Tina, a student at Bard College,
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discovered about herself.
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(Audio) Tina: So far, I've been spending
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between 150 and 200 minutes on my phone per day,
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and I've been picking up my phone 70 to 100 times per day.
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And it's really concerning,
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because that's so much time that I could have spent
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doing something more productive, more creative, more towards myself,
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because when I'm on my phone, I'm not doing anything important.
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MZ: Like Tina, people were starting to observe their own behavior.
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They were getting ready for challenge week.
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And that Monday,
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they started to wake up to instructions in their inbox,
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an experiment to try.
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Day one:
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"Put it in your pocket."
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Take that phone out of your hand.
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See if you can eliminate the reflex to check it all day long,
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just for a day.
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And if this sounds easy,
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you haven't tried it.
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Here's listener Amanda Itzko.
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(Audio) Amanda Itzko: I am absolutely itching.
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I feel a little bit crazy,
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because I have noticed that I pick up my phone
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when I'm just walking from one room to another,
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getting on the elevator,
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and even -- and this is the part that I am really embarrassed
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to actually say out loud --
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in the car.
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MZ: Yikes.
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Yeah, well, but as Amanda learned,
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this itching feeling is not actually her fault.
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That is exactly the behavior that the technology is built to trigger.
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(Laughter)
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I mean, right?
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Here's former Google designer, Tristan Harris.
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(Audio) Tristan Harris: If I'm Facebook or I'm Netflix or I'm Snapchat,
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I have literally a thousand engineers
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whose job is to get more attention from you.
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I'm very good at this,
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and I don't want you to ever stop.
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And you know, the CEO of Netflix recently said,
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"Our biggest competitors are Facebook, YouTube and sleep."
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I mean, so there's a million places to spend your attention,
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but there's a war going on to get it.
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MZ: I mean, you know the feeling:
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that amazing episode of "Transparent" ends,
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and then the next one starts playing
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so you're like, eh, OK fine, I'll just stay up and watch it.
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Or the LinkedIn progress bar says you are this close
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to having the perfect profile,
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so you add a little more personal information.
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As one UX designer told me,
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the only people who refer to their customers as "users"
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are drug dealers and technologists.
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(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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And users, as we know, are worth a lot of money.
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Here's former Facebook product manager and author,
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Antonio García Martínez.
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(Audio) Antonio García Martínez: The saying is, if any product is free
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then you're the product; your attention is the product.
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But what is your attention worth?
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That's why literally every time you load a page,
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not just on Facebook or any app,
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there's an auction being held instantly, billions of times a day,
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for exactly how much that one ad impression cost.
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MZ: By the way, the average person will spend two years of their life
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on Facebook.
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So, back to challenge week.
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Immediately, we saw some creativity kick in.
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Here's New Yorker Lisa Alpert.
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(Audio) Lisa Alpert: I was bored, I guess.
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So I suddenly looked at the stairway that went up to the top of the station,
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and I thought, you know,
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I had just come down that stairway, but I could go back up
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and then come back down and get a little cardio.
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So I did,
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and then I had a little more time, so I did it again and I did it again,
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and I did it 10 times.
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And I had a complete cardio workout.
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I got on that R train feeling kind of exhausted,
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but, like, wow, that had never occurred to me.
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How is that possible?
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(Laughter)
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MZ: So creativity, I learned, means different things to different people.
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(Laughter)
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But everyone found day three's challenge the hardest.
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It was called "Delete that app."
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Take that app -- you know the one;
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that one that always gets you, it sucks you in --
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take it off your phone,
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even if just for the day.
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I deleted the game Two Dots and nearly cried.
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(Laughter)
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Yeah, Two Dots players know what I'm talking about.
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But my misery had good company.
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(Audio) Man 2: This is Liam in Los Angeles,
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and I deleted Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, Snapchat and Vine
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from my phone
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in one fell swoop.
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And it was kind of an embarrassingly emotional experience at first.
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It felt weirdly lonely to look at that lock screen
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with no new notifications on it.
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But I really liked deciding for myself
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when to think about or access my social networks,
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not giving my phone the power to decide that for me.
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So thank you.
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(Audio) Woman 3: Deleting the Twitter app was very sad,
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and I feel I maybe, over the last year when I've been on Twitter,
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have developed an addiction to it,
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and this "Bored and Brilliant" challenge has really made me realize it.
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After a brief period of really horrible withdrawal feeling,
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like lack-of-caffeine headache,
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I now feel lovely.
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I had a lovely dinner with my family,
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and I hope to continue this structured use of these powerful tools.
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(Audio) Woman 4: I don't have that guilty gut feeling
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I have when I know I'm wasting time on my phone.
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Maybe I'll have to start giving myself challenges and reminders like this
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every morning.
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MZ: I mean, yes, this was progress.
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I could not wait to see what the numbers said
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at the end of that week.
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But when the data came in,
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it turned out that we had cut down,
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on average,
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just six minutes --
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from 120 minutes a day on our phones
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to 114.
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Yeah. Whoop-de-do.
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So I went back to the scientists feeling kind of low,
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and they just laughed at me,
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and they said, you know, changing people's behavior
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in such a short time period
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was ridiculously ambitious,
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and actually what you've achieved is far beyond what we thought possible.
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Because more important than the numbers, were the people's stories.
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They felt empowered.
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Their phones had been transformed
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from taskmasters
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back into tools.
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And actually, I found what the young people said most intriguing.
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Some of them told me
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that they didn't recognize some of the emotions
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that they felt during challenge week,
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because, if you think about it,
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if you have never known life without connectivity,
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you may never have experienced boredom.
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And there could be consequences.
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Researchers at USC have found -- they're studying teenagers
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who are on social media while they're talking to their friends
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or they're doing homework,
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and two years down the road, they are less creative and imaginative
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about their own personal futures
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and about solving societal problems, like violence in their neighborhoods.
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And we really need this next generation
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to be able to focus on some big problems:
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climate change, economic disparity,
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massive cultural differences.
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No wonder CEOs in an IBM survey
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identified creativity as the number one leadership competency.
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OK, here's the good news, though:
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In the end, 20,000 people did "Bored and Brilliant" that week.
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Ninety percent cut down on their minutes.
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Seventy percent got more time to think.
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People told me that they slept better.
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They felt happier.
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My favorite note was from a guy who said he felt like he was waking up
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from a mental hibernation.
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Some personal data and some neuroscience
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gave us permission to be offline a little bit more,
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and a little bit of boredom gave us some clarity
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and helped some of us set some goals.
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I mean, maybe constant connectivity
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won't be cool in a couple of years.
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But meanwhile, teaching people, especially kids,
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how to use technology to improve their lives
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and to self-regulate
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needs to be part of digital literacy.
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So the next time you go to check your phone,
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remember that if you don't decide how you're going to use the technology,
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the platforms will decide for you.
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And ask yourself:
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What am I really looking for?
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Because if it's to check email, that's fine -- do it and be done.
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But if it's to distract yourself from doing the hard work
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that comes with deeper thinking,
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take a break,
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stare out the window
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and know that by doing nothing
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you are actually being your most productive and creative self.
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It might feel weird and uncomfortable at first,
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but boredom truly can lead to brilliance.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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