Natalie Jeremijenko: Let's teach fish to text! and other outlandish ideas

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I was informed by this kind of
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unoriginal and trite idea
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that new technologies were an opportunity
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for social transformation,
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which is what drove me then,
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and still, it's a delusion that drives me now.
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I wanted to update what I've been doing since then --
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but it's still the same theme song --
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and introduce you to my lab and current work,
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which is the Environmental Health Clinic
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that I run at NYU.
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And what it is -- it's a twist on health.
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Because, really, what I'm trying to do now
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is redefine what counts as health.
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It's a clinic like a health clinic at any other university,
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except people come to the clinic
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with environmental health concerns,
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and they walk out with prescriptions
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for things they can do to improve environmental health,
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as opposed to coming to a clinic with medical concerns
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and walking out with prescriptions for pharmaceuticals.
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It's a handy-dandy quote from Hippocrates of the Hippocratic oath
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that says, "The greater part of the soul lays outside the body,
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treatment of the inner requires treatment of the outer."
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But that suggests the issue
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that I'm trying to get at here,
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that we have an opportunity to redefine what is health.
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Because this idea that health is internal
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and atomized and individual
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and pharmaceutical
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is largely an error.
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And I would use this study,
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a recent study by Philip Landrigan,
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to motivate a different view of health,
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where he went to most of the pediatricians in Manhattan
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and the New York area
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and logged what they spent their patient hours on.
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80 to 90 percent of their time
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was spent on five things.
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Number one was asthma,
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number two was developmental delays,
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number three was 400-fold increases
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in rare childhood cancers
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in the last eight to 10, 15 years.
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Number four and five were childhood obesity
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and diabetes-related issues.
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So all of those -- what's common about all of those?
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The environment is implicated, radically implicated, right.
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This is not the germs
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that medicos were trained to deal with;
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this is a different definition of health,
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health that has a great advantage
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because it's external, it's shared,
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we can do something about it,
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as opposed to internal, genetically predetermined
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or individualized.
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People who come to the clinic are called, not patients,
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but impatients,
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because they're too impatient to wait for legislative change
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to address local and environmental health issues.
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And I meet them at the University, I also have a few field offices
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that I set up in various places
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that provide an immersion
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in some of the environmental challenges we face.
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I like this one from the Belgian field office,
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where we met in a roundabout,
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precisely because the roundabout iconified
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the headless social movement
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that informs much social transformation,
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as opposed to the top-down control
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of red light traffic intersections.
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In this case, of course, the roundabout
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with that micro-decisions being made in situ
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by people not being told what to do.
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But, of course, affords greater throughput,
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fewer accidents,
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and an interesting model of social movement.
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Some of the things that the monitoring protocols have developed:
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this is the tadpole bureaucrat protocol,
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or keeping tabs, if you will.
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What they are is an addition of tadpoles
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that are named after a local bureaucrat
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whose decisions affect your water quality.
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So an impatient concerned for water quality
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would raise a tadpole bureaucrat
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in a sample of water in which they're interested.
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And we give them a couple of things to do that,
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to help them do companion animal devices
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while they're blogging and doing their email.
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This is a tadpole walker
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to take your tadpole walking in the evening.
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And the interesting thing that happens --
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because we're using tadpoles, of course,
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because they have the most exquisite biosenses that we have,
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several orders of magnitude more sensitive
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than some of our senses
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for sensing,
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responding in a biologically meaningful way,
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to that whole class of industrial contaminants
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we call endocrine disruptors
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or hormone emulators.
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But by taking your tadpole out for a walk in the evening --
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there's a few action shots --
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your neighbors are likely to say, "What are you doing?"
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And then you have to introduce your tadpole
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and who it's named after.
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You have to explain what you're doing
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and how the developmental events of a tadpole
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are, of course, very observable
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and they use the same T3-mediated hormones that we do.
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And so next time your neighbor sees you
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they'll say, "How is that tadpole doing?"
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And you can let them social network with your tadpole,
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because the Environmental Health Clinic has a social networking site
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for, not only impatients, humans,
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but non-humans,
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social networking for humans and non-humans.
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And of course, these endocrine disruptors
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are things that are implicated in the breast cancer epidemic,
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the obesity epidemic,
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the two and a half year drop in the average age of onset of puberty in young girls
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and other related things.
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The culmination of this is if you've successfully raised your tadpole,
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observing the behavioral
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and developmental events,
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you will then go and introduce your tadpole
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to its namesake
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and discuss the evidence that you've seen.
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Another quick protocol -- and I'm going to go through these quickly,
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but just to give you the material sense of what we're doing here --
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instead of asking you for urine samples,
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I'll ask you for a mouse sample.
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Anyone here lucky enough to share, to cohabit with a mouse --
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a domestic partnership with mice?
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Very lucky.
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Mice, of course, are the quintessential
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model organism.
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They're even better models of environmental health,
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because not only the same mammalian biology,
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but they share your diet, largely.
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They share your environmental stressors,
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the asbestos levels and lead levels,
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whatever you're exposed to.
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And they're geographically more limited than you are,
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because we don't know if you've been exposed
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to persistent organic pollutants
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in your home, or occupationally
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or as a child.
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Mice are a very good representation.
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So it starts by building a better mousetrap, of course.
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This is one of them.
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Coping with environmental stressors is tricky.
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Is anybody here on antidepressants?
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(Laughter)
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There's a lot of people in Manhattan are.
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And we were testing if the mice
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would also self-administer SSRIs.
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So this was Prozac, this was Zoloft,
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this was a black jellybean and this was muscle relaxant,
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all of which were the medications that the impatient was taking.
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So do you think the mice
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self-administered antidepressants?
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What's the -- (Audience: Sure. Yes.)
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How did you know that? They did.
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This was vodka and solution, gin and solution.
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This guy also liked plain water and the muscle relaxant.
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Where's our expert?
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Vodka, gin --
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(Audience: [unclear])
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Yes. Yes. You know your mice well.
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They did, yes.
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So they drank as much vodka as they did plain water,
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which was interesting.
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Then of course, it goes into the entrapment device.
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There's an old cellphone in there -- a good use for old cellphones --
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which dials the clinic, we go and pick up the mouse.
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We take the blood sample
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and do the blood work and hair work on the mice.
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And I want to sort of point out the big advantage
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of framing health in this external way.
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But we do have a few prescription products through this.
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It's very different from the medical model.
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Anything you do to improve your water quality or air quality,
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or to understand it or to change it,
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the benefits are enjoyed by anyone
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you share that water quality or air quality with.
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And that aggregating effect,
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that collective action effect,
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is actually something we can use to our advantage.
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So I want to show you one prescription product in the clinic
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called the No Park.
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This is a prescription to improve water quality.
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Many impatients are very concerned for water quality and air quality.
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What we do is we take a fire hydrant,
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a "no parking" space associated with a fire hydrant,
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and we prescribe the removal of the asphalt
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to create an engineered micro landscape,
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to create an infiltration opportunity.
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Because, many of you will know,
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that the biggest pollution burden
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that we have on the New York, New Jersey harbor right now
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is no longer the point sources,
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no longer the big polluters,
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no longer the GEs,
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but that massive network of roads,
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[those] impervious surfaces,
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that collect all that cadmium neurotoxin that comes from your brake liners
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or the oily hydrocarbon waste
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in every single storm event and medieval infrastructure
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washes it straight into the estuary system.
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That doesn't do a lot of good.
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These are little opportunities to intercept those pollutants
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before they enter the harbor,
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and they're produced by impatients
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on various city blocks
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in some very interesting ways.
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I just want to say it was sort of a rule of thumb though,
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there's about two or three fire hydrants
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on every city block.
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By creating engineered micro landscapes to infiltrate in them,
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we don't prevent them from being used
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as emergency vehicle parking spaces,
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because, of course, a firetruck can come and park there.
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They flatten a few plants. No big deal, they'll regenerate.
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But if we did this
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in every single --
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every fire hydrant
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we could redefine the emergency.
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That 99 percent of the time
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when a firetruck is not parking there,
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it's infiltrating pollutants.
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It's also increasing fixing CO2s,
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sequestering some of the airborne pollutants.
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And aggregated,
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these smaller interceptions
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could actually infiltrate all the roadborne pollution
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that now runs into the estuary system,
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up to a seven inch rain event, up to a hundred-year storm.
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So these are small actions
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that can amount to a significant effect
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to improve local environmental health.
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This is one of the more ambitious ones.
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What the climate crisis has revealed to us
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is a secondary, more insidious
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and more pervasive crisis,
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which is the crisis of agency,
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which is what to do.
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Somehow buying a local lettuce, changing a light bulb,
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driving the speed limit, changing your tires regularly,
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doesn't seem sufficient
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in the face of climate crisis.
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And this is an interesting icon that happened --
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you remember these: fallout shelters.
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What is the fallout shelter
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for the climate crisis?
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This was civic mobilization.
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Churches, school groups,
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hospitals, private residents --
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everyone built one of these in a matter of months.
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And they still remain
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as icons of civic response
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in the face of shared, uncertain, collective threat.
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Fallout shelter for the climate crisis,
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I would say, looks something like this, or this,
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which is an intensive urban agriculture facility
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that's due to go on my lab building at NYU.
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What it does
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is a very simple idea
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of taking --
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80 to 90 percent of the CO2 produced in Manhattan
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is building related --
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we take, just like a commercial greenhouse,
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we take the CO2 from the building --
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CO2-enriched air --
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we force it through the urban agriculture facility,
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and then we resupply oxygen-enriched air.
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You can't actually build much on a roof, they're not designed for that.
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So it's on legs,
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so it focuses all the load on the masonry walls and the columns.
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It's built as a barn raising,
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using open source hardware.
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This is the quarter-scale prototype
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that was functioning in Spain.
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This is what it will look like, fingers crossed,
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NYU willing.
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And what I want to show you is --
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actually this is one of the components of it that we've just recently been testing --
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which is a solar chimney --
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we have got 17 of them now put around New York at the moment --
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that passively draws air up.
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You understand a solar chimney.
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Hot air rises.
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You put a bit of black plastic on the side of a building,
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it'll heat up, and you'll get passive airflow.
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What we do is actually
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put a standard HVAC filter on the top of that.
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That actually removes about 95 percent
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of the carbon black,
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that stuff that, with ozone,
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is responsible for about half of global warming's effects,
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because it changes, it settles on the snow,
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it changes the reflectors,
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it changes
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the transmission qualities of the atmosphere.
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Carbon black is that grime
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that otherwise lodges in your pretty pink lungs,
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and it's associated with.
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It's not good stuff, and it's from inefficient combustion,
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not from combustion itself.
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When we put it through our solar chimney,
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we remove actually about 95 percent of that.
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And then I swap it out
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with the students
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and actually re-release that carbon black.
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And we make pencils the length of which measures the grime
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that we've pulled out of the air.
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Here's one of them that we have up now.
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Here's who put them up and who are avid pencil users.
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Okay, so I want to show you
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just two more interfaces,
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because I think one of our big challenges
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is re-imagining our relationship to natural systems,
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not only through this model
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of twisted personalized health,
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but through the animals
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with whom we cohabit.
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We are not alone; the animals are moving in.
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In fact, urban migration now describes
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the movement of animals formerly known as wild
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into urban centers.
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You know, coyote in Central Park, a whale in the Gowanus Canal,
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elk in Westchester County.
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It's happening all over the Developed World,
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probably for loss of habitat,
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but also because our cities are a little bit more livable
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than they have been.
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And every green space we create
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is an invitation for non-humans to cohabit with us.
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But we've kind of lacked imagination
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in how we could do that well or interestingly.
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And I want to show you a few of the technological interfaces
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that have been developed under the moniker of OOZ --
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which is zoo backwards and without cages --
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to try and reform
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that relationship.
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This is communication technology for birds. It looks like this.
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When a bird lands on it, they trigger a sound file.
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This is actually in the Whitney Museum, where there were six of them,
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each of which had a different argument on it,
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different sound file.
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They said things like this.
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(Whistling)
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Recorded Voice: Here's what you need to do.
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Go down there and buy some of those health food bars,
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the ones you call bird food,
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and bring it here and scatter it around.
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There's a good person.
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Natalie Jeremijenko: Okay. (Laugher)
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So there was several of these.
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The birds were able to jump from one to the other.
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These are just your average urban pigeon.
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And an early test
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which argument elicited cooperative behavior
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from the people below --
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about a hundred to one
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decided that this was the argument
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that worked best on us.
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Recorded Voice: Tick, tick, tick.
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That's the sound of genetic mutations
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of the avian flu
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becoming a deadly human flu.
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Do you know what slows it down?
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Healthy sub-populations of birds,
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increasing biodiversity generally.
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It is in your interests that I'm healthy,
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happy, well-fed.
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Hence, you could share some of your nutritional resources
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instead of monopolizing them.
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That is, share your lunch.
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(Laughter)
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NJ: It worked, and it's true.
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The final project I'd like to show you
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is a new interface for fish
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that has just been launched --
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it's actually officially launched next week --
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with a wonderful commission from the Architectural League.
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You may not have known that you need to communicate with fish,
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but there is now a device for you to do so.
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It looks like this: buoys that float on the water,
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project three foot up, three foot down.
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When a fish swims underneath, a light goes on.
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This is what it looks like.
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So there's another function on here.
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This top light is -- I'm sorry if I'm making you seasick --
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this top light is actually a water quality display
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that shifts from red, when the dissolved oxygen is low,
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to a blue/green, when its dissolved oxygen is high.
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And then you can also text the fish.
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So there's business cards down there
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that'll give you contact details.
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And they text back.
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When the buoys get your text, they wink at you twice to say, we've got your message.
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But perhaps the most popular has been
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that we've got another array of these boys in the Bronx River,
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where the first beaver --
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crazy as he is --
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to have moved in and built a lodge in New York
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in 250 years, hangs out.
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So updates from a beaver.
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You can subscribe to updates from him. You can talk to him.
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And what I like to think of
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is this is an interface
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that re-scripts how we interact with natural systems,
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specifically by changing who has information,
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where they have it,
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who can make sense of that information,
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and what you can do about it.
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In this case, instead of throwing chewing gum,
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or Doritos or whatever you have in your pocket at the fish --
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There's a body of water in Iceland that I've been dealing with
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that's in the middle of the city,
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and the largest pollution burden on it
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is not the roadborne pollution,
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it's actually white bread
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from people feeding the fish and the birds.
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Instead of doing that actually, we've developed some fish sticks
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that you can feed the fish.
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They're delicious.
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They're cross-species delicious that is,
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delicious for humans and non-humans.
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But they also have a chelating agent in them.
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They're nutritionally appropriate,
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not like Doritos.
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And so every time
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that desire to interact with the animals,
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which is at least as ubiquitous
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as that sign: "Do not feed the animals."
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And there's about three of them on every New York City park.
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And Yellowstone National Park,
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there's more "do not feed the animals" signs
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than there are animals you might wish to feed.
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But in that action, that interaction,
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by re-scripting that,
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by changing it into an opportunity
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to offer food that is nutritionally appropriate,
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that could augment the nutritional resources
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that we ourselves have depleted
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for augmenting the fish population
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and also adding chelating agent,
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which, like any chelating agent that we use medicinally,
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binds to the bioaccumulated heavy metals and PCBs
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that are in the fish
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living in this particular habitat
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and allows them to pass it out as a harmless salt
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where it's complexed by a reactive,
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effectively removing it from bioavailability.
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But I wanted to say that interaction,
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re-scripting that interaction,
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into collective action, collective remediative action,
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very different from the approach
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that's being used on the other side on the Hudson River,
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where we're dredging the PCBs --
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after 30 years of legislative and legal struggle,
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GE's paying for the dredging
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of the largest Superfund site in the world --
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we're dredging it, and it'll probably get shipped off to Pennsylvania
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or the nearest Third World country,
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where it will continue to be toxic sludge.
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Displacement is not the way to deal with environmental issues.
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And that's typically the paradigm
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under which we've operated.
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By actually taking the opportunity
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that new technologies,
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new interactive technologies, present
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to re-script our interactions,
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to script them,
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not just as isolated, individuated interactions,
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but as collective aggregating actions
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that can amount to something,
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we can really begin to address
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some of our important environmental challenges.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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