We can start winning the war against cancer | Adam de la Zerda

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"We're declaring war against cancer,
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and we will win this war by 2015."
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This is what the US Congress and the National Cancer Institute declared
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just a few years ago, in 2003.
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Now, I don't know about you, but I don't buy that.
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I don't think we quite won this war yet,
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and I don't think anyone here will question that.
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Now, I will argue that a primary reason
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why we're not winning this war against cancer
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is because we're fighting blindly.
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I'm going to start by sharing with you a story about a good friend of mine.
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His name is Ehud,
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and a few years ago, Ehud was diagnosed with brain cancer.
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And not just any type of brain cancer:
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he was diagnosed with one of the most deadly forms of brain cancer.
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In fact, it was so deadly
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that the doctors told him that they only have 12 months,
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and during those 12 months, they have to find a treatment.
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They have to find a cure,
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and if they cannot find a cure, he will die.
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Now, the good news, they said,
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is that there are tons of different treatments to choose from,
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but the bad news is
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that in order for them to tell if a treatment is even working or not,
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well, that takes them about three months or so.
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So they cannot try that many things.
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Well, Ehud is now going into his first treatment,
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and during that first treatment, just a few days into that treatment,
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I'm meeting with him, and he tells me, "Adam, I think this is working.
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I think we really lucked out here. Something is happening."
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And I ask him, "Really? How do you know that, Ehud?"
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And he says, "Well, I feel so terrible inside.
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Something's gotta be working up there.
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It just has to."
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Well, unfortunately, three months later, we got the news, it didn't work.
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And so Ehud goes into his second treatment.
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And again, the same story.
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"It feels so bad, something's gotta be working there."
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And then three months later, again we get bad news.
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Ehud is going into his third treatment, and then his fourth treatment.
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And then, as predicted, Ehud dies.
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Now, when someone really close to you is going through such a huge struggle,
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you get really swamped with emotions.
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A lot of things are going through your head.
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For me, it was mostly outrage.
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I was just outraged that, how come this is the best that we can offer?
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And I started looking more and more into this.
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As it turns out, this is not just the best that doctors could offer Ehud.
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It's not just the best doctors could offer patients with brain cancer generally.
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We're actually not doing that well all across the board with cancer.
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I picked up one of those statistics,
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and I'm sure some of you have seen those statistics before.
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This is going to show you here how many patients actually died of cancer,
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in this case females in the United States,
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ever since the 1930s.
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You'll notice that there aren't that many things that have changed.
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It's still a huge issue.
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You'll see a few changes, though.
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You'll see lung cancer, for example, on the rise.
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Thank you, cigarettes.
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And you'll also see that, for example, stomach cancer
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once used to be one of the biggest killers of all cancers,
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is essentially eliminated.
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Now, why is that? Anyone knows, by the way?
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Why is it that humanity is no longer struck by stomach cancer?
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What was the huge, huge medical technology breakthrough
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that came to our world that saved humanity from stomach cancer?
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Was it maybe a new drug, or a better diagnostic?
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You guys are right, yeah.
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It's the invention of the refrigerator,
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and the fact that we're no longer eating spoiled meats.
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So the best thing that happened to us so far
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in the medical arena in cancer research
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is the fact that the refrigerator was invented.
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(Laughter)
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And so -- yeah, I know.
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We're not doing so well here.
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I don't want to miniaturize the progress
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and everything that's been done in cancer research.
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Look, there is like 50-plus years of good cancer research
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that discovered major, major things that taught us about cancer.
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But all that said,
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we have a lot of heavy lifting to still do ahead of us.
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Again, I will argue that the primary reason why this is the case,
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why we have not done that remarkably well,
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is really we're fighting blindly here.
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And this is where medical imaging comes in.
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This is where my own work comes in.
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And so to give you a sense of the best medical imaging
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that's offered today to brain cancer patients,
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or actually generally to all cancer patients,
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take a look at this PET scan right here.
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Let's see. There we go.
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So this is a PET/CT scan,
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and what you'll see in this PET/CT scan
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is the CT scan will show you where the bones are,
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and the PET scan will show you where tumors are.
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Now, what you can see here
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is essentially a sugar molecule
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that was added a small little tag
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that is signaling to us outside of the body,
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"Hey, I'm here."
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And those sugar molecules are injected into these patients by the billions,
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and they're going all over the body
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looking for cells that are hungry for sugar.
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You'll see that the heart, for example, lights up there.
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That's because the heart needs a lot of sugar.
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You'll also see that the bladder lights up there.
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That's because the bladder is the thing that's clearing
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the sugar away from our body.
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And then you'll see a few other hot spots,
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and these are in fact the tumors.
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Now, this is a really a wonderful technology.
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For the first time it allowed us to look into someone's body
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without picking up each and every one of the cells
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and putting them under the microscope,
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but in a noninvasive way allowing us to look into someone's body
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and ask, "Hey, has the cancer metastasized?
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Where is it?"
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And the PET scans here are showing you very clearly
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where are these hot spots, where is the tumor.
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So as miraculous as this might seem,
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unfortunately, well, it's not that great.
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You see, those small little hot spots there.
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Can anyone guess how many cancer cells are in any one of these tumors?
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So it's about 100 million cancer cells,
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and let me make sure that this number sunk in.
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In each and every one of these small little blips
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that you're seeing on the image,
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there needs to be at least 100 million cancer cells
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in order for it to be detected.
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Now, if that seemed to you like a very large number,
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it is a very large number.
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This is in fact an incredibly large number,
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because what we really need in order to pick up something early enough
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to do something about it, to do something meaningful about it,
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well, we need to pick up tumors that are a thousand cells in size,
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and ideally just a handful of cells in size.
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So we're clearly pretty far away from this.
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So we're going to play a little experiment here.
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I'm going to ask each of you to now play and imagine
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that you are brain surgeons.
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And you guys are now at an operating room,
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and there's a patient in front of you,
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and your task is to make sure that the tumor is out.
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So you're looking down at the patient,
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the skin and the skull have already been removed,
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so you're looking at the brain.
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And all you know about this patient
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is that there's a tumor about the size of a golf ball or so
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in the right frontal lobe of this person's brain.
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And that's more or less it.
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So you're looking down, and unfortunately everything looks the same,
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because brain cancer tissue and healthy brain tissue
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really just look the same.
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And so you're going in with your thumb,
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and you start to press a little bit on the brain,
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because tumors tend to be a little harder, stiffer,
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and so you go in and go a little bit like this and say,
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"It seems like the tumor is right there."
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Then you take out your knife and start cutting the tumor
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piece by piece by piece.
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And as you're taking the tumor out,
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then you're getting to a stage where you think,
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"Alright, I'm done. I took out everything."
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And at this stage, if that's --
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so far everything sounded, like, pretty crazy --
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you're now about to face the most challenging decision of your life here.
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Because now you need to decide,
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should I stop here and let this patient go,
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risking that there might be some leftover cancer cells behind
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that I just couldn't see,
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or should I take away some extra margins,
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typically about an inch or so around the tumor
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just to be sure that I removed everything?
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So this is not a simple decision to make,
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and unfortunately this is the decision
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that brain cancer surgeons have to take every single day
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as they're seeing their patients.
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And so I remember talking to a few friends of mine in the lab,
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and we say, "Boy, there's got to be a better way."
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But not just like you tell a friend that there's got to be a better way.
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There's just got to be a better way here.
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This is just incredible.
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And so we looked back.
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Remember those PET scans I told you about, the sugar and so on.
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We said, hey, how about instead of using sugar molecules,
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let's maybe take tiny, tiny little particles made of gold,
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and let's program them with some interesting chemistry around them.
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Let's program them to look for cancer cells.
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And then we will inject these gold particles
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into these patients by the billions again,
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and we'll have them go all over the body,
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and just like secret agents, if you will,
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go and walk by every single cell in our body
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and knock on the door of that cell,
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and ask, "Are you a cancer cell or are you a healthy cell?
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If you're a healthy cell, we're moving on.
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If you're a cancer cell, we're sticking in and shining out
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and telling us, "Hey, look at me, I'm here."
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And they'll do it through some interesting cameras
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that we developed in the lab.
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And once we see that, maybe we can guide brain cancer surgeons
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towards taking only the tumor and leaving the healthy brain alone.
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And so we've tested that, and boy, this works well.
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So I'm going to show you an example now.
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What you're looking at here
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is an image of a mouse's brain,
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and we've implanted into this mouse's brain
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a small little tumor.
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And so this tumor is now growing in this mouse's brain,
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and then we've taken a doctor and asked the doctor
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to please operate on the mouse as if that was a patient,
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and take out piece by piece out of the tumor.
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And while he's doing that,
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we're going to take images to see where the gold particles are.
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And so we're going to first start
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by injecting these gold particles into this mouse,
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and we're going to see right here at the very left there
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that image at the bottom
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is the image that shows where the gold particles are.
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The nice thing is that these gold particles
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actually made it all the way to the tumor,
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and then they shine out and tell us, "Hey, we're here. Here's the tumor."
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So now we can see the tumor,
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but we're not showing this to the doctor yet.
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We're asking the doctor, now please start cutting away the tumor,
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and you'll see here the doctor just took the first quadrant of the tumor
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and you see that first quadrant is now missing.
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The doctor then took the second quadrant, the third,
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and now it appears to be everything.
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And so at this stage, the doctor came back to us and said,
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"Alright, I'm done. What do you want me to do?
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Should I keep things as they are
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or do you want me to take some extra margins around?"
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And then we said, "Well, hang on."
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We told the doctor, "You've missed those two spots,
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so rather than taking huge margins around,
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only take out those tiny little areas.
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Take them out, and then let's take a look."
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And so the doctor took them away, and lo and behold,
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the cancer is now completely gone.
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Now, the important thing
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is that it's not just that the cancer is completely gone
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from this person's brain,
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or from this mouse's brain.
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The most important thing
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is that we did not have to take huge amounts of healthy brain
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in the process.
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And so now we can actually imagine a world
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where doctors and surgeons, as they take away a tumor,
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they actually know what to take out,
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and they no longer have to guess with their thumb.
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Now, here's why it's extremely important to take those tiny little leftover tumors.
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Those leftover tumors, even if it's just a handful of cells,
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they will grow to recur the tumor,
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for the tumor to come back.
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In fact, the reason why 80 to 90 percent
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of those brain cancer surgeries ultimately fail
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is because of those small little extra margins that were left positive,
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those small little leftover tumors that were left there.
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So this is clearly very nice,
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but what I really want to share with you is where I think we're heading from here.
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And so in my lab at Stanford,
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my students and I are asking, what should we be working on now?
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And I think where medical imaging is heading to
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is the ability to look into the human body
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and actually see each and every one of these cells separately.
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The ability like this would allow us
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to actually pick up tumors way, way earlier in the process,
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way before it's 100 million cells inside, so we can actually do something about it.
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An ability to see each and every one of the cells might also allow us
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to ask insightful questions.
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So in the lab, we are now getting to a point
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where we can actually start asking these cancer cells real questions,
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like, for example, are you responding to the treatment we are giving you or not?
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So if you're not responding, we'll know to stop the treatment right away,
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days into the treatment, not three months.
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And so also for patients like Ehud
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that are going through these nasty, nasty chemotherapy drugs,
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for them not to suffer
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through those horrendous side effects of the drugs
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when the drugs are in fact not even helping them.
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So to be frank here,
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we're pretty far away from winning the war against cancer,
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just to be realistic.
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But at least I am hopeful
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that we should be able to fight this war with better medical imaging techniques
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in the way that is not blind.
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Thank you.
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