When workers own companies, the economy is more resilient | Niki Okuk

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: 易帆 余
00:12
Are you tired of your boss?
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你對你的老闆厭倦了嗎?
00:14
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:16
Are you tired of going to work
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你對於去上班,
00:18
and making money for other people?
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並為其他人賺錢感到厭倦了嗎?
00:21
And who are those people anyways?
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那些人到底是誰?
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Those people that make money from your work.
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從你的工作賺錢的那些人。
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Well, they're capitalists.
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他們是資本家。
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They have capital,
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他們有資本,
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and they use your labor to make more capital.
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他們用你的勞力來賺更多的資本。
00:32
So if you're tired of going to work
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所以如果你厭倦了上班
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and making money for other people,
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並為其他人賺錢,
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then you're probably like me --
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那麼你可能就跟我很像
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just tired of capitalism.
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就是厭倦了資本家。
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Which is ironic, because I'm a capitalist.
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這很諷刺,因為我本身就是資本家。
00:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:46
I own a small business --
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我擁有一間小型企業
00:47
Rco Tires in Compton.
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位於康普頓的 Rco Tires(輪胎行)。
00:50
A few years ago, when I read Van Jones,
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幾年前,當我在閱讀 范瓊斯的作品時,
00:52
and he wrote, "Let's make green collar jobs in the hood,"
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他寫到:「讓我們在鄰里間 創造綠領工作。」
00:55
I took him really seriously.
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我很認真看待他說的話。
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So I cofounded, own and operate a tire recycling company,
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所以我與人合夥,擁有並 經營一間輪胎回收公司,
01:01
and I'm really proud of what we've done.
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我對於我們所做的,感到十分驕傲。
01:03
So far, we've recycled a hundred million pounds of rubber.
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目前為止,我們已經 回收了一億磅的橡膠。
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That's 21 million gallons of oil diverted from landfills
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等同是將 2100 萬加侖的石油 從垃圾掩埋場轉移出來,
01:11
into new products.
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做成新產品。
01:13
(Cheers)
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(歡呼)
01:14
We also employ about 15 guys --
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我們也僱用了約十五個人…
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mostly people of color,
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大部份是有色人種,
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most of whom are felons,
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他們大部份是重罪犯,
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and we pay above the minimum wage,
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我們給他們的薪資高於最低薪資,
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and we are now proud members of the United Steelworkers Union.
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而且我們現在自豪 是鋼鐵工人聯合會的成員。
01:24
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
01:30
Now, Rco is not a cooperative now.
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Rco 不是一間合作社。
01:32
It's a privately held company with community-minded ownership,
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它是間私人控股公司, 其擁有者有著社區思維,
01:36
but I would like it to become one.
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但我想要變成一間合作社。
01:38
I would like for them to fire the boss --
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我希望他們能開除老闆
01:40
that's me.
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也就是我。
01:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:43
And I'm going to tell you why,
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我等等會告訴你們為什麼,
01:44
but first, let me tell you how we got started.
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但先讓我先談談我們是如何開始的。
01:47
So a lot of people ask,
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很多人問:
01:48
"How did Rco come to be?"
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「Rco 是怎麼誕生的?」
01:50
And I have to be really honest.
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我要很老實說,
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I leveraged my white privilege.
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我善用了我的白人特權。
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So, here's how white privilege worked for me and Rco.
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以下是白人特權如何幫助我與 Rco。
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My white grandmother was born on her family's plantation
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我的白人奶奶在 她家族的大農園出生,
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in Arkansas in 1918.
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地點在阿肯色州,時間是 1918 年。
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She traveled with her white father west,
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她與她的白人父親向西行,
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following the oil boom.
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追隨石油開發的熱潮。
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And he held various union oil jobs --
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他做過各種石油公會的相關工作,
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jobs which would have never been given to my black great-grandfather,
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這些工作是我黑人曾祖父 永遠不可能得到的工作,
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had he lived here at the time.
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如果他那時還在世的話。
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Granny became a hairdresser
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奶奶成了理髮師,
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and then got a loan with her husband
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接著與爺爺取得了貸款,
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who built their home in West Los Angeles --
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在西洛杉磯建造了他們的家。
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a loan which would never have been given to a black family at the time.
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當時黑人家庭是不可能取得貸款的。
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And after my grandfather passed away,
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在我爺爺過世後,
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my granny was able to keep that house
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我奶奶得以留住那間房子,
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because she had his pension and his health care
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因為她有他的退休金 和他的健康照護,
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from a state job which he held,
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這些是來自於他在州政府的工作,
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which again, would have never been given to a black man
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同樣的,在 60 年代 反歧視法案之前,
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before the anti-discrimination act of the 1960s.
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黑人也是不可能得到這種工作的。
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So, you fast-forward 30 years,
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所以,快轉三十年後,
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and I graduate,
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我畢業了,
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and I want to start my own business
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我想開創自己的事業,
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with a pile of debt and a credit card,
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但卻背著一堆負債和一張信用卡,
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and no experience in the tire industry.
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完全沒有輪胎產業的經驗。
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But I had what most people didn't have.
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但我擁有的,大部份人都沒有。
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I had a clean, safe, free place to live.
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我有一個乾淨、安全、 免費的地方可以住。
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I moved in with my grandmother,
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我搬去和奶奶住,
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and I was able to rent our first warehouse,
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我想辦法租了我們的第一間倉庫,
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buy our first truck,
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買了第一台卡車,
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pay our first employees,
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支薪給我們的第一批員工,
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because I didn't have to worry about paying myself,
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因為我不用擔心支薪給我自己,
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because I didn't need to feed myself,
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因為我不需要養我自己,
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because I am the direct beneficiary of generations of white privilege.
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因為我是世世代代 白人特權的直接受益人。
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Now, telling the story of white privilege is important
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明白白人特權的故事很重要,
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because very often people say,
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因為人們常會說:
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"Oh, we want more companies like yours.
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「我們想要更多像你這樣的公司。
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We want more Rco's,
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我們想要更多 Rco,
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we want more black-owned businesses,
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我們想要更多企業是由黑人所擁有、
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female-led, triple bottom line,
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女性來領導、三重底線的公司架構、
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Ban the Box,
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不詢問犯罪記錄
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green manufacturing companies," right?
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的綠色製造商。」對吧?
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But the question we have to ask is, where is the wealth?
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但我們該問的問題是, 財富資源在哪裡?
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Where is the money?
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錢在哪裡?
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Where's the capital in our communities
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社群中,用來建立
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to build the types of businesses that we want?
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我們所想要的這種企業的資本在哪裡?
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And in telling a story of the white side of my family,
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在訴說我白人家庭這一邊的故事時,
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I needed a dozen ways
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我有很多故事可以說明,
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where blacks were excluded from the economy,
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為什麼故事中的黑人 被排除在經濟體之外,
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whereas the white side of my family was able to gain access and traction,
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而我家庭的白人這一邊 卻能獲得進入與引介的門檻,
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and build wealth ...
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並建立起財富的故事。
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Primarily because racism and capitalism are best homies, but --
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主因是種族主義與資本主義是好朋友,
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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but what that means is that when we ask ourselves,
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但那意味著,當我們自問:
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"Why are our communities broke?" --
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「為什麼我們的社群會缺乏資金?」
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Like, we're not just broke because we're broke;
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我們並不只是缺乏資金而缺錢,
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we're broke for a reason.
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我們沒錢是有原因的。
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Historical context really does matter.
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這當中歷史背景 扮演了重要的角色。
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But our history tells another story as well.
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但我們的歷史也說了另一個故事。
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There's this incredible book called "Collective Courage,"
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有一本很棒的書叫「集體勇氣」,
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which is the story of how thousands of African Americans
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內容是關於數千名非裔美國人
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have been able to build businesses and schools,
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如何能夠建立起事業、學校、
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hospitals, farming cooperatives,
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醫院、農業合作社、
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banks, financial institutions --
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銀行、金融機構,
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entire communities and sovereign economies,
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整個社區以及獨立自主的經濟,
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without a lot of capital.
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而且是從小資本開始建立起來的。
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And they did it by working together
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他們能辦到,是因為能同心協力,
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and leveraging their community assets
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利用社群的資產槓桿,
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and trusting each other
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並相信彼此,
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and putting solidarity first --
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將團結擺在第一,
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not just profits by any means necessary.
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而不是不計一切只追求利潤。
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And they didn't have to wait around for celebrities and athletes
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他們不需要等待名人或運動員
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to bring their money back to the hood.
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把錢帶回到他們的街坊。
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However, if you are a celebrity or an athlete,
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然而,如果你是名人或運動員,
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and you're listening to this,
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且你正在聽這場演講,
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please feel free to bring your money.
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請別客氣,把你的錢 帶進來一起投資。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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But they did it through cooperative economics,
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但他們是透過「合作型經濟」辦到的,
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because they knew
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因為他們知道,
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that capitalism was never going to finance black liberation.
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資本從未資助過解放後的黑人。
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So, there are so many great examples in this book,
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在這本書中有許多很棒的例子,
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and I suggest that everybody just read it
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我建議大家都去找這本書來看,
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because it answers the question I asked earlier,
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因為它回答了我先前問的問題,
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which was where are we going to get the wealth
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也就是:我們要從哪裡得到財富資源
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to build the types of business that we want.
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來建立起我們想要的企業類型?
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And the answer is going to have to be cooperative economics.
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而答案就是合作型經濟。
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There's a lot of different versions of cooperativism.
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合作的方式有很多種不同的版本。
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What I'm talking about today is worker ownership.
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我今天要談的是勞動者所有權。
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You may not have heard of worker ownership,
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你可能沒聽過勞動者所有權,
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but it's been an incredible tool
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但它是近一個世紀中
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for black economic liberation for a century,
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黑人經濟自由的極佳工具,
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and it's also working all over the world right now.
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且全世界都在用它。
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You may have heard of Black Wall Street
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你們可能有聽過黑色華爾街,
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or maybe the Zapatistas,
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或薩帕塔民族解放軍,
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but I'll give you an example that's a little bit closer to home.
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但我要舉個 離我家鄉更近的例子。
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Right now, today, in South Bronx,
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目前,在南布隆克斯區,
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is the country's largest worker-owned company.
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有一間全國最大的 勞動者所有權的公司。
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It's called Cooperative Home Care Associates,
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它叫「合作家庭護理聯營公司」,
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and it was founded by black and Latinx home care workers
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它是由黑人及拉丁裔的 家庭護理工作者所成立的,
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who are now able to pay themselves living wages,
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他們現在有能力可支付自己 足以維生的薪水,
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they have full-time hours,
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他們做全職工作,
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they have benefits and a pension,
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他們也有津貼和退休金,
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through their membership as a unit of SEIU.
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因為他們也是 SEIU (服務業雇員國際聯合會 )的會員。
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And these women owners now receive a dividend back on their ownership
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現在這些女性所有權人 可以透過她們自己的股份
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every year that the company has been profitable,
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每年從公司獲利中獲得股息,
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which has been most years.
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而公司也幾乎都年年獲利。
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So they're able to really enjoy the fruits of their labor
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所以她們得以享受 她們付出勞力的成果,
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because they fired the boss.
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因為她們開除了老闆。
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They don't have any big investors.
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她們沒有任何大型投資者。
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They don't have fat-cat CEOs
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她們沒有肥貓型的執行長,
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or absentee owners taking the profit out of the company.
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或總是缺席卻能從公司 拿走獲利的所有權人。
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They each pay in about 1,000 dollars over time
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她們每個人隨著時間存入一千美元,
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in order to gain ownership,
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以取得所有權,
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and now they own their job.
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而現在她們擁有她們的工作。
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Now, there's hundreds of more examples of companies like this
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像這樣的公司,還有數百個例子,
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springing up all across the country.
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在全國各地出現。
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And I'm so inspired by what they're doing,
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我被他們的所做所為給激勵到,
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because it really represents an alternative
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因為這確實代表著, 我們除了目前這種剝削
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to the type of economy we have now,
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所有人的經濟類型之外,
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which exploits all of us.
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我們還有另一種 替代方案可以選擇。
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It also represents an alternative
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也就是說,我們除了等大型投資者
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to waiting around for big investors to bring chain stores,
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把連鎖商店或倉儲式商店 帶進我們社區之外,
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or big-box stores to our communities,
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我們還有另一個替代方案,
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because honestly, those types of developments,
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因為,老實說,這類大型企業的發展,
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they steal resources from our communities.
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都是在偷走我們社區的資源。
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They put our mom-and-pop shops out of business,
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它們讓夫妻經營的小店關門大吉,
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they make our entrepreneurs into wage workers,
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它們讓我們的企業家 變成領薪水的勞工,
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and they take money out of our pocket
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它們從我們的口袋把錢拿走,
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and send it to their shareholders.
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分給他們的股東。
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So, I was so inspired by all these stories of resistance and resilience
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所以,我受到這些抵抗大型企業 且韌性堅強的故事所激勵,
07:13
that I got together with a few people here in Los Angeles,
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所以我在洛杉磯這裡 招集了幾個人,
07:16
and we created LUCI.
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我們一起創立了 LUCI。
07:17
LUCI stands for the Los Angeles Union Cooperative Initiative,
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LUCI 是洛杉磯 聯合合作創始會的縮寫,
07:22
and our objective is to create more worker-owned businesses
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我們的方針是要在洛杉磯創立更多
07:25
here in Los Angeles.
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由勞動者擁有的企業。
07:26
So far, in the last year, we've created two:
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目前為止,在去年我們創立了兩家:
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Pacific Electric, an electrical company,
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一間叫「太平洋電氣」的電氣公司、
07:31
and Vermont Gage Carwash,
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以及「Vermont Gage 洗車場」,
07:32
which is right here in South-Central,
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它就在中南區這裡,
07:34
some of you guys might be familiar with it.
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你們當中有些人可能很熟悉。
07:36
This long-time carwash is now owned and operated by its 20 workers,
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這個歷史悠久的洗車場現在是由 20 個勞動者所擁有和經營,
07:41
all of whom are union members as well.
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他們也都是工會的成員。
07:43
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07:48
So you might be wondering why the focus on union-worker ownership,
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你們可能會好奇,為什麼我們會著重 工會勞工所有權式的聯合公司?
07:52
but there's a lot of good reasons
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有很多很好的理由可說明
07:54
why the labor movement is a natural ally to the worker-ownership movement.
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為什麼勞工運動很自然會 和勞動者所有權運動有所關聯。
07:57
To build these companies that we want in our community,
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為了要在社區 建立起我們希望的公司,
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we need a few things.
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我們需要幾樣東西。
08:01
We're going to need money, people and training.
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我們需要錢、人及訓練。
08:04
Unions have all of those things.
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這些都是工會可以提供的。
08:07
America's working class has been paying union dues for decades,
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美國的勞工階級數十年來, 一直都在支付工會的會費,
08:10
and with it, our unions have been building
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工會運用些會費
08:12
dignified, decent, and democratic workplaces for us.
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為我們建立有尊嚴的、 體面的、民主的工作環境。
08:15
However, union jobs are on the steep decline,
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然而屬於工會的工作正快速減少,
08:18
and it's time for us to start calling on our unions
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該是我們呼籲工會,
08:20
to really bring all of their financial and political capital
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請他們確實把他們的 財務及政治資本
08:24
to bear in the creation of new, union, living-wage jobs
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帶來協助我們的社區,
創建新的、工會的, 且足以維生的薪水工作。
08:27
in our communities.
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08:29
Also, union halls are full of union members
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此外,工會裡有很多工會成員,
08:32
who understand the importance of solidarity
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他們都了解團結的重要性,
08:36
and the power of collective action.
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以及集體行動的影響力。
08:39
These are the types of folks that want more union businesses to exist,
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這群人也希望有更多 工會性質的企業能生存下來,
08:43
so let's build them with them.
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所以大家要一起與工會 建立起這樣的企業。
08:47
Learning from our unions,
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向我們的工會學習,
08:48
learning from our past,
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向我們的過去學習,
08:49
learning from our peers,
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向我們的同儕學習,
08:50
are all going to be very important to our success,
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這些都對我們的成功都非常重要,
08:53
which is why I'd like to leave you with one last example
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這就是為什麼我要 再給各位最後一個例子,
08:56
and a vision for the future ...
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以及對未來的願景。
08:58
and that vision is Mondragon, Spain.
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那個願景就是西班牙的蒙德拉貢公司。
09:02
Mondragon, Spain is a community built entirely around worker cooperatives.
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蒙德拉貢公司完全是由 勞動者所建立的聯合社群。
09:07
There's 260-plus businesses here,
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裡面有 260 間以上的企業,
09:10
manufacturing everything from bicycles to washing machines to transformers.
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製造各種東西,從腳踏車、 洗衣機,到變壓器都有。
09:15
And this group of businesses now employs 80,000 people
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整個企業集團現在 共僱用了八萬名員工,
09:19
and earns more than 12 billion euros in revenue every year.
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年收益超過 120 億歐元。
09:23
And all of the companies there are owned by the people that work in them.
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那裡所有的公司都由 在公司裡工作的人所擁有。
09:27
They've also built universities and hospitals and financial institutions.
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他們也建造了大學、醫院、金融機構。
09:32
I mean, imagine if we could build something like this in South-Central.
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想像一下,如果我們在中南區 也能建立這樣的社區,會如何。
09:37
The late mayor of Jackson had a similar idea.
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已逝的前市長傑克森有過類似的點子,
09:41
He wanted to turn his entire city into a Mondragon-like cooperative economy,
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他想要把整個城市轉變成 類似蒙德拉貢的合作經濟體,
09:46
calling his ambitious plan "Jackson Rising."
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他把這個很有野心的計畫 稱為「傑克森起義」。
09:50
And when I look at Mondragon,
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當我在看蒙德拉貢時,
09:52
I see really what working-class people can do for ourselves
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我真的看到工薪階級 能為自己做些什麼,
09:55
when we work together
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當我們團結在一起時,
09:56
and make decisions for ourselves and each other
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真的能為自己、彼此,及社區
09:58
and our communities.
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做出決策。
10:03
And what's really incredible about Mondragon
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關於蒙德拉貢公司,還有很妙的一點,
10:06
is that while we are dreaming about them,
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就是當我們夢想成為他們時,
10:08
they are dreaming about us.
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他們卻在夢想成為我們。
10:11
This community in Spain has decided to launch an international initiative
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這個西班牙社群決定要推出 全球性的創始會員活動,
10:16
to create more communities like it all over the world,
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以在全世界創造出更多 像它這樣的社區,
10:19
by linking up with unions,
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做法包括與聯合會做連結、
10:20
by supporting organizations like LUCI,
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支持像 LUCI 這類的組織、
10:22
and by educating folks about the worker-ownership model.
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以及教導人們認識 「勞動者所有權」的公司模式。
10:27
Now, here's what you can do to be a part of it.
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如果你想成為一員,你可以做的是:
10:29
If you're a union member, go to your union meetings,
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如果你是工會成員, 請去參加你的工會會議,
10:32
and make sure that your union has a worker-ownership initiative,
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並確保你的工會有 勞動者所有權的創始機制,
10:35
and become a part of it.
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並加入成為它的一部份。
10:37
If you're an entrepreneur,
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如果你是企業家,
10:38
if you have a small business,
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如果你有一間小型企業,
10:39
or you're interested in starting one,
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或是你有興趣要成立一間,
10:41
then link up with LUCI or another organization like us
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那麼就去與 LUCI 或 其它類似我們的組織做連結,
10:44
to help you get started on the cooperative model.
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來協助你開始採用 合作型經濟的模式。
10:47
If you're a politician,
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如果你是政治家,
10:48
or you work for one,
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或是你為政治家工作,
10:49
or you just like talking to them,
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或是你就是喜歡和政治家說話,
10:51
please get the city, state, federal and county legislation passed
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請協助讓市、州、聯邦 和郡能通過法令,
10:55
that we need in order to fund and support worker-owned businesses.
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因為我們需要這些法令去資助和 支持那些勞動者擁有的企業。
10:59
And for everybody else,
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至於其他人,
11:01
learn about our history, learn about our models,
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多了解我們的歷史、我們的模式,
11:03
and seek us out so can support us,
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來找我們,來支援我們,
11:04
you can buy from us, invest in us, lend to us and join us,
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你們可以向我們購買東西、 投資我們、借款給我們、加入我們,
11:08
because it's really going to take all of us
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因為真的需要我們所有人齊心,
11:10
in order to build the more just and sustainable and resilient economy
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才能建立起更公正、永續、 回復力強的經濟體,
11:13
that we want for ourselves and our children.
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而這也是我們及後代子孫們的希望。
11:17
And with that,
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有鑑於此,
11:18
I would like to leave you with a quote from Arundhati Roy,
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我要留給各位一句名言, 這名言來自阿蘭達蒂羅伊,
11:22
and she writes ...
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她這麼寫:
11:24
"Our strategy should not be only to confront Empire,
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「我們的策略不該只是對抗帝國,
11:28
but to lay siege to it.
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也要圍攻它,
11:31
To deprive it of oxygen.
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奪走它的氧氣,
11:33
To mock it.
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嘲笑它、
11:34
To shame it.
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羞辱它。
11:36
With our art,
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用我們的藝術、
11:37
our literature,
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我們的文學作品、
11:39
our music,
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我們的音樂、
11:40
our brilliance,
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我們的才華、
11:42
our joy,
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我們的喜悅、
11:43
our sheer relentlessness --
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我們不屈不饒的精神,
11:46
and our ability to tell our own stories.
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以及我們訴說自己故事的能力。
11:49
Not the stories that we're being brainwashed to believe.
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不要再去相信它們的洗腦故事。
11:53
The corporate revolution will collapse
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我們的企業革命將會使它們崩壞,
11:55
if we refuse to buy what they're selling --
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如果我們拒絕企業販賣的產品,
11:59
their ideas,
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他們的點子、
12:00
their version of history,
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他們版本的歷史、
12:02
their wars,
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他們的戰爭、
12:03
their weapons,
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他們的武器、
12:05
their sense of inevitability.
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他們所謂的必要性。
12:07
Because know this:
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因為,要知道,
12:09
They be few and we be many.
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他們是少數,我們是多數。
12:12
They need us more than we need them.
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他們需要我們,多於我們需要他們。
12:14
Another world is not only possible,
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另一個世界並非不可能,
12:17
she's on her way.
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她已經在路上了。
12:19
And on a quiet day,
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在平靜的日子,
12:21
I can hear her breathing."
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我能聽見她的呼吸。」
12:23
Thank you.
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謝謝。
12:24
(Applause)
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