An astronaut's story of curiosity, perspective and change | Leland Melvin
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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: Helen Chang
00:12
[This talk contains mature content]
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【本演說有成人內容】
00:16
In 1969, I was standing behind
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1969 年,
我站在一台喜萬年的黑白電視機後面。
00:21
a Sylvania black-and-white television set.
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00:24
Hearing about these things happening
on the set in the front,
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聽著前面的電視機中發生的事,
00:27
I was the guy, you know,
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我是負責幫我爸爸、姐姐、
媽媽調整室內天線的那個人。
00:28
moving the rabbit ears
for my dad, and my sister and my mom.
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00:32
"Move over here, turn over here,
move this way, we can't see the screen."
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「移向這邊,轉過來這裡,移向
這個方向,我們看不到畫面。」
00:36
And what they were watching
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他們在看的是:
00:38
was: "One small step for a man,
one giant leap for mankind."
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「我的一小步,
是人類的一大步。」
00:43
Neil [Armstrong] and Buzz Aldrin
were walking on the Moon.
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尼爾 · 阿姆斯壯
和伯茲 · 艾德林在月球上行走。
00:47
And I was five years old
in Lynchburg, Virginia,
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我才五歲,住在
維吉尼亞的林奇堡,
00:51
a skinny black kid
in a kind of somewhat racist town.
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我是個瘦巴巴的黑人小孩,
住在一個有種族歧視的小鎮。
00:55
And I was trying to figure out
what I was going to do with my life.
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我還在想著我人生到底要做什麼。
01:00
And my parents, you know,
they were educators,
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而我父母,他們是教育家,
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they'd said that you can do anything.
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他們會說,你能做任何事。
01:05
But after that moon landing,
all the kids in the neighborhood
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但在登陸月球之後,
鄰里中的所有孩子
01:08
were like, "You're going to be
an astronaut?"
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都會問:「你將來要當太空人嗎?」
01:10
I'm like, "No."
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我會說:「不。」
01:11
I don't want a buzz cut,
and I don't see someone who looks like me.
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我不想要剪平頭,
也沒看見外表跟我類似的人。
因為外表確實很重要。
01:14
Because representation does matter.
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01:16
And I knew that there was a guy
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我知道有個傢伙,
01:20
five blocks down the street
on Pierce Street
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住在皮爾斯街,離我家五個街區,
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who was training to play tennis.
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他在接受網球訓練。
01:25
And it was Arthur Ashe.
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他是亞瑟 · 艾許。
01:27
And my dad talked
about his character, his discipline,
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我爸爸會談他的性格、他的紀律、
01:30
his intelligence, his athleticism.
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他的智慧、他對體育的熱愛。
01:33
I wanted to be Arthur Ashe,
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我想要成為亞瑟 · 艾許,
我並不想成為上月球的人。
01:34
I didn't want to be
one of those moon guys.
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01:37
And as I went on through this journey,
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當我在這段人生旅途上時,
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my dad, who was a school teacher,
he played in a band,
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我爸爸是學校老師,在樂團演奏,
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he did all these things to make money
for my sister and I
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他做這些是為了賺錢
讓我姐姐和我可以上鋼琴課,
01:48
to take piano lessons
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01:49
and do these different things
with education.
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以及學其他不同的東西。
01:51
And he one day decides to drive up
into the driveway with this bread truck.
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有一天,他決定把這台麵包車
開上我們家的車道。
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And I'm thinking, "OK, bread truck,
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我心想:「好吧,麵包車,
02:02
me delivering bread
while my dad's driving the truck."
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我爸開車,我負責送麵包。」
02:05
I'm like, "OK, I'm going to be
a bread guy now."
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我說:「好吧,我現在
要當送麵包的人了。」
02:07
But he says, "This is our camper."
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但他說:「這是我們的露營車。」
02:11
I'm like, "Dude, come one, I can read:
'Merita Bread and Rolls'
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我說:「拜託,我識字,
車上印著『瑪莉塔麵包和捲餅』。」
02:14
on the side of this truck.
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02:16
And he says, "No, we're going
to build this into our camper."
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他說:「不,我們要把它
改造成我們的露營車。」
02:21
And over that summer, we rewired
the entire electrical system.
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那年夏天,我們
重新接過整個電氣系統。
02:25
We plumbed a propane tank
to a Coleman stove,
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我們把一個丙烷罐
改裝成一個柯爾曼爐,
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we built bunk beds that flip down.
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我們打造了可以翻下來的上下鋪。
02:30
We were turning this into our summer
vacation launch pad, escape pod,
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我們把這東西改造成我們的
暑假用火箭發射台、逃生艙,
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this thing that could
take us out of Lynchburg.
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它能帶我們離開林奇堡。
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And before that,
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在那之前,
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I was actually raped at five
by some neighbors.
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我五歲時,被一些鄰居性侵。
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And I didn't tell anyone,
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我沒有告訴任何人,
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because I had friends
that didn't have fathers.
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因為我有些朋友沒有爸爸。
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And I knew that my father
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我知道我爸爸若知情,
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would have killed the people
that did that to his son.
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一定會殺了對他兒子
做這種事的人。
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And I didn't want my father to be gone.
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我不希望我也變成沒有爸爸。
03:02
So as we got in this bread truck
and escaped from Lynchburg,
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所以,當我們進入這台
麵包車,逃離林奇堡,
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it was my time with my dad.
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那是我和我爸爸相處的時間。
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And we went to the Smoky Mountains
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我們去了大煙山,
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and looked at the purple
mountains' majesty.
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看著紫色山岳的雄偉。
03:14
And we walked along the beach
in Myrtle Beach,
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在默特爾比奇的海灘散步,
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and this thing was transformative.
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這件事帶來了巨大的轉變。
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It showed me what it meant
to be an explorer, at a very early age.
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它讓我在很小的年紀
就見識到身為探險家的意義。
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And I suppressed all that negativity,
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我壓抑了所有的負面創傷,
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all that trauma,
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because I was learning to be an explorer.
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因為我在學著成為探險家。
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And a little bit later, my mother gave me
an age-inappropriate,
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不久後我媽給我一組化學藥劑套組,
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non-OSHA-certified chemistry set,
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既不適合我的年齡,
又沒有職業衛生安全局認證,
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:37
where I created the most incredible
explosion in her living room.
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我用這組套組,在她的客廳
創造出了最驚人的爆炸。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:43
And so I knew I could be a chemist.
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所以,我知道我能成為化學家。
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So as I went on this journey
through a high school,
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我繼續著這趟旅程,進入高中,
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and I went to college,
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又上了大學,
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and I got a football scholarship
to play football in college.
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我拿到了大學的美式足球員獎學金。
03:52
And I knew that I could be a chemist,
because I'd already blown stuff up.
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我知道我能成為化學家,
因為我已經能炸掉東西。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:57
And when I graduated,
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我畢業時,
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I got drafted to the Detroit Lions.
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我被底特律雄獅隊選上。
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But I pulled a hamstring in training camp,
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但在訓練營時,我的大腿肌腱拉傷,
04:05
and so what every former NFL player does,
they go work for NASA, right?
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前國家美式足球聯盟 (NFL) 球員
都去美國太空總署工作,對吧?
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So I went to work for NASA.
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所以我就去那裡工作了。(笑聲)
04:10
(Laughter)
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04:11
And this friend of mine said,
"Leland, you'd be great astronaut."
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我有一位朋友說:「利蘭,
你會是很出色的太空人。」
04:14
I just laughed at him,
I was like, "Yeah, me, an astronaut?"
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我只是笑他,我說:
「最好是啦,我?太空人?」
04:17
You know that Neil and Buzz
thing from back in '69?
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你們知道 1969 年
尼爾和伯茲的事?
04:19
And he handed me an application,
and I looked at it,
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他遞給我一份申請表,
我看著它,沒有去填寫。
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and I didn't fill it out.
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04:23
And that same year, another friend of mine
filled out the application
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同年,我的另一位朋友
填了那份申請書,
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and he got in.
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他入選了。
04:30
And I said to myself,
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我對我自己說:
04:32
"If NASA's letting knuckleheads
like that be astronauts,"
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「如果美國太空總署
讓那種笨蛋當太空人,」
04:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)「也許我也能當太空人。」
04:37
"maybe I can be one, too."
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04:38
So the next selection, I filled out
the application, and I got in.
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所以,在下一次選拔,
我填了申請表,我入選了。
04:42
And I didn't know
what it meant to be an astronaut:
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我當時不知道當太空人代表什麼:
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the training, the simulations,
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訓練、模擬,
04:48
all these things to get you ready
for this countdown:
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所有要讓你準備好
倒數升空所必要的事:
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three, two, one, liftoff.
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三、二、一,發射。
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And in 2007, I was in Space Shuttle
"Atlantis," careening off the planet,
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2007 年,
我在亞特蘭提斯號太空梭上,
搖晃著飛離地球,
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traveling at 17,500 miles per hour.
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行進時速一萬七千五百英里。
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And eight and a half minutes later,
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八分半鐘之後,
05:05
the main engines cut off,
and we're now floating in space.
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主引擎停止,我們在太空中漂浮。
05:09
And I push off
and float over to the window,
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我把自己推起來,漂向窗戶,
05:12
and I can see the Caribbean.
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我可以看見加勒比海。
05:14
And I need new definitions of blue
to describe the colors that I see.
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要有藍色的新定義,
我才能夠描述我看見的顏色。
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Azure, indigo, navy blue,
medium navy blue, turquoise
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蔚藍色、靛藍色、深藍色、
中深藍色、藍綠色,
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don't do any justice
to what I see with my eyes.
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都無法形容我雙眼所看到的。
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And my job on this mission was to install
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我在這次任務中的工作
是要安裝這間二十億美金的
哥倫布實驗室。
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this two-billion dollar
Columbus laboratory.
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05:33
It was a research laboratory
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它是一間研究實驗室,
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for materials research,
for human research.
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用做材料研究,用做人類研究。
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And I reached into the payload bay
of the space shuttle,
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我把手伸到太空船的酬載艙內,
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grabbed out this big module,
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把這個大模組抓出來,
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and I used the robotic arm
and I attached it to the space station.
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我使用機械手臂,
將它連結至太空站。
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And the European team have been waiting
10 years for this thing to get installed,
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歐洲團隊等了十年才等到
這個東西安裝好,
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so I'm sure everyone in Europe was like,
"Leland! Leland! Leland!"
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我相信,在歐洲的每個人都在:
「利蘭!利蘭!利蘭!」
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:57
And so this moment happened,
this was our primary mission objective,
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這個時刻發生了,
這是我們的主要任務方針,
06:01
it was done.
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完成了。
06:03
And I had this big sigh of relief.
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我大大鬆了一口氣。
06:07
But then, Peggy Whitson,
the first female commander,
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但,接著,佩吉 · 惠特森,
第一位女性指揮官,
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she invited us over
to the Russian segment.
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她邀請我們過去俄國區。
06:12
And the space station's
about the size of a football field,
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太空站的大小大約是一個足球場,
06:15
with solar panel and trusses
and all of these modules.
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上面有著太陽能板、桁架、各種模組。
06:19
And she says, "Leland, you go get
the rehydrated vegetables,
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她說:「利蘭,你去拿脫水蔬菜,
06:22
we have the meat."
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我們有肉。」
06:23
So we float over with the bag
of vegetables, all rehydrated,
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所以,我們帶著一袋蔬菜,
都是脫水的,漂過去,
06:27
and we get there.
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我們到了那裡。
06:29
And there's this moment
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有這麼一刻,
06:30
where I get [transported]
back to my mother's kitchen.
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我覺得我被傳送回了我媽媽的廚房。
06:35
You can smell the beef
and barley heating up,
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你能聞到牛肉和大麥正在加熱,
06:37
you can smell the food, the colors,
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你能聞到食物,顏色,
06:41
and there are people there
from all around the world.
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且那裡有來自世界各地的人。
06:44
It's like a Benetton commercial,
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就像是班尼頓的廣告,
06:46
you know, you have African American,
Asian American, French, German, Russian,
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有非裔美國人、亞裔美國人、
法國人、德國人、俄國人,
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the first female commander,
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第一位女性指揮官,
06:51
breaking bread at 17,500 miles per hour,
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以時速一萬七千五百英里在用餐,
06:55
going around the planet every 90 minutes,
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每九十分鐘就繞地球一圈,
06:57
seeing a sunrise and a sunset every 45.
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每四十五分鐘就看到
一次日出和日落。
佩吉會說:「嘿,利蘭,試試這個。」
07:01
And Peggy would say,
"Hey, Leland, try some of this,"
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07:03
and she'd float it over to my mouth,
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然後她會讓那東西漂向我的嘴巴,
07:05
and I'd catch it
and we'd go back and forth.
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我得要接住它,
我們會這樣來來回回。
07:07
And we're doing all of this while
listening to Sade's "Smooth Operator."
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我們一邊做這些
一邊聽莎黛的《調情聖手》。
07:13
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:14
I mean, this is like
blowing my mind, you know.
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這真的是讓我印象好深。
07:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:17
And I float over to the window,
and I look down at the planet,
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我漂向窗戶,
我向下看這個星球,
07:21
and I see all of humanity.
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我看到全人類。
07:24
And my perspective changes at that moment,
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在那一刻,我的觀點改變了,
07:27
because, I'm flying over Lynchburg,
Virginia, my home town,
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因為,我正在飛過維吉尼亞的
林奇堡,我的家鄉,
07:30
and my family's probably breaking bread.
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我的家人可能正在吃飯。
07:32
And five minutes later,
we're flying over Paris,
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五分鐘之後,我們飛過巴黎,
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where Leo Eyharts
is looking down at his parents,
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換成李歐 · 艾哈特斯
向下看著他的父母,
07:37
probably having some wine and cheese,
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可能正在喝葡萄酒吃起士,
07:39
and Yuri's looking off to Moscow,
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尤里則是遠望著莫斯科,
07:41
and they're probably eating
borscht or something else.
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他們可能正在吃
羅宋湯或其他東西。
07:43
But we're all having this moment
where we see our respective families
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但我們都有這個時刻,
看到我們各自的家人,
07:48
working together as one civilization,
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大家隸屬同一個文明,同心協力,
07:52
at 17,500 miles per hour.
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時速一萬七千五百英里。
07:56
My perspective shifted cognitively,
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我的認知觀點改變了,
07:59
it changed me.
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它改變了我。
08:00
And when I think about being
that little skinny boy,
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當我想到我還是那個瘦小的男孩,
08:02
from sometimes racist Lynchburg, Virginia,
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住在維吉尼亞的
種族主義小鎮林奇堡,
08:06
I would never have had that perspective
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我當時絕對不會有那種觀點,
08:10
to think about myself
of being an astronaut,
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認為我自己會成為太空人,
08:13
if my father hadn't taken us on a journey
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一切都是因為我爸爸帶我們
08:16
in this radical craft that we built
with our own two hands.
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搭我們親手打造的太空船去旅行。
08:22
When I came home,
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回家後我了解到
08:24
I realized that perspective is something
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我們每個人都有那種觀點。
08:28
that we all get and we all have.
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08:32
It's just how far
do we open up our blinders
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差別只在於我們把眼罩拉高多少
08:34
to see that shift and that change.
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以看到轉變和改變。
08:37
And going back to the space station,
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回到太空站,
08:39
I think of, you know, Germans
and Russians fighting Americans.
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我想著德國人和俄國人對抗美國人。
08:45
We have these people
living and working together.
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這些人住在一起,工作在一起。
08:48
White folks, black folks, Russian folks,
French folks, you know.
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白人、黑人、俄國人、法國人,
08:52
All these different people coexisting
in harmony as one race.
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所有這些不同的人和諧地
共同生存,同屬一個種族。
08:58
And I think about the colors that I saw,
the design of the modules,
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我想著我看到的顏色,
模組的設計,
09:02
the way that things fit together,
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一切很吻合地結合在一起,
09:04
the way that it made us
a community, our home.
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讓我們成為一個社區,
我們的家園。
09:09
And so when I look up to space now,
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所以,現在當我抬頭看向太空,
09:13
and I have this newfound perspective
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我有著這種我新發現的觀點,
09:17
on the space station going overhead
and looking there,
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在上面的太空站上,看著那裡,
09:20
and then looking back at my community
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接著,回頭看向我的社區,
09:22
and seeing the people
that I'm living and working with,
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看到跟我住在一起,
工作在一起的人,
09:25
and coexisting with,
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共存的人,
09:27
I think it's something that we all
can do now, especially in these times,
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我想這是我們所有人
現在都能做的,
特別是在這個時代,
09:33
to make sure that we have
the right perspective.
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確保我們有正確的觀點。
09:38
Thank you.
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謝謝。
09:39
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
09:44
Chee Pearlman: If you don't mind,
could I just chat with you for a minute,
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切.佩爾曼:如果你不介意,
我能不能和你聊一下,
因為他們要在這裡做些準備工作。
09:47
because they're going to set up
some things here.
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09:50
And I get to have you all to myself, OK.
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而我可以佔有你。
09:52
Leland Melvin: Alright.
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利蘭.梅爾文:好的。
09:54
CP: You guys don't get to hear this.
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切:你們沒聽到這些。
09:56
So I have to tell you
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所以,我得要告訴你,
09:58
that in my family,
we watch a lot of space movies
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在我家,
我們看很多太空電影,
10:03
about astronauts and stuff like that.
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講太空人之類的故事。
10:05
I can't tell you why, but we do.
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我不知道為什麼,但就是如此。
10:07
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:09
The thing that I wanted
to ask you, though,
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不過,我想要問你的是,
10:11
is that we were seeing
this movie the other day,
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有一天,我們看了一部電影,
10:15
and it was about one of the astronauts,
one of your colleagues,
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講的是一位太空人,
你的一位同事,
10:19
and before he went up into space,
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在他上太空之前,
10:22
they actually wrote an obituary,
NASA wrote an obituary for him.
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他們真的會寫訃文,
美國太空總署為他寫了訃文。
10:26
And I was like, is that normal?
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我心想,這是正常的嗎?
10:28
And is that part of the job?
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這是工作的一部分?
10:30
Do you think about that peril
that you're putting yourself in
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你會去想當你上太空時,
是讓自己處在什麼樣的危險中嗎?
10:36
as you go into space?
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10:37
LM: Yeah.
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里蘭:好。
10:38
So, I don't remember anyone
writing my obituary,
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我不記得有人寫我的訃文,
10:41
maybe that was an Apollo-day thing.
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也許那是阿波羅時期的事。
10:43
But I do know that in the 135
shuttle flights that we've had,
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但我確實知道,我們的
135 趟太空梭飛行,
10:48
the shuttle that I flew on,
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我搭乘過的太空梭,
10:50
we had two accidents
that killed everyone on that mission.
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我們有兩次意外,
出任務的人全數喪生。
10:55
And we all know the perils
and the risks that go along with this,
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我們都知道這工作的危險和風險,
10:58
but we're doing something
that's much bigger than ourselves,
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但我們在做的事情
超越了我們自身,
11:01
and helping advance civilization,
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協助文明的進步,
11:03
so the risk is worth the reward.
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冒這樣的風險是值得的。
11:06
And we all feel that way
when we get into that vehicle
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當我們進入太空梭,
和幾百萬噸的火箭燃料
11:09
ans strap into those million pounds
of rocket fuel and go up to space.
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綁在一起飛上太空時,
我們都是這麼想的。
11:13
CP: Yeah, I've only seen
the Hollywood version --
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切:是的,我看過好萊塢版的——
11:16
it looks pretty terrifying,
I have to tell you.
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我必須要說,看起來挺嚇人的。
11:18
LM: You should go.
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里:你應該去試試。(笑聲)
11:19
(Laughter)
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11:21
CP: Yeah, my husband's
told me that a few times.
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切:是啊,我老公
也這樣說過幾次。
11:23
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:25
LM: One-way trip or two-way?
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里:單程或來回?
11:27
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:29
CP: That’s a bit of a debate in our house.
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切:我們在家裡就在辯論這個。
11:31
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:33
I wanted to, if I may ...
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我想要,如果可以的話……
11:37
You did touch on something
that was very powerful and difficult,
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你剛提到了非常強大
且不容易的事,
11:42
which is, you spoke about this incident
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就是,你談到當你五歲時
11:46
that had happened to you
when you were five years old,
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遇到的那次意外,你被性侵的事。
11:49
and that you were raped.
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我只是覺得,你能說出這種事情,
11:50
And I just think that
for you to be able to say those things,
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11:53
you know, on the TED stage,
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你知道的,在 TED 的台上,
11:55
to be able to talk about that at all,
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光是能談這件事,
11:58
is pretty fearless.
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就是相當無懼的。
12:00
And I wanted to get a sense from you,
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而我想要聽聽你的感受,
12:03
is that something that you think
is important for you to share that now,
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你認為這重要嗎?
在現在分享這件事,
12:07
to speak about it?
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談這件事?
12:08
LM: It's so important, especially for men,
to talk about things that have happened,
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里:非常重要,特別是
要男人談發生過的事,
12:13
because we've been trained
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因為我們都被訓練,
12:14
and told by our society
that we have to be so tough and so hard
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被社會教導要強悍,要堅強,
12:18
and we can't tell of things
that are happening to us.
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我們無法說出
發生在我們身上的事。
12:21
But I've had so many men
contact me and tell me that,
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但有好多男人都會這樣跟我說:
12:25
"You came through that, you got over that,
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「你熬過來、恢復了,
我也要來克服我的酗酒問題。」
12:27
I'm going to get over my alcoholism,"
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12:29
and these things
that are going on in them,
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這些因為他們的遭遇
而產生的內在掙扎。
12:31
because of what happened to them.
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12:32
And so we must share these stories,
this is part of storytelling,
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所以我們必須要分享這些故事,
這是說故事的一部分,
12:36
to heal us and to make us
whole as a community.
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以治癒我們,讓我們
大家成為一個共同體。
12:39
CP: That's wonderful.
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切:那很棒。
12:41
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
12:46
And you know, quite honestly,
you spoke about perspective shift,
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你知道的,老實說,
你談到觀點轉變,
12:50
and that is a shift that I think
we've been very slow to accept
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我認為我們要花很多時間
慢慢接受這種轉變,
12:55
and to be able to speak about that,
so we thank you for that.
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去談這類的事情,
所以我們很謝謝你談這些。
12:59
We thank you for being
the amazing astronaut that you are,
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我們謝謝你成為
這麼出色的太空人,
13:02
and thank you for coming
to the TED stage, Leland.
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謝謝你來到 TED 的舞台,利蘭。
13:04
LM: Thank you so much, Chee.
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利:非常謝謝你,切。
13:06
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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