To Love Is to Be Brave | Kelly Corrigan | TED

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譯者: 麗玲 辛 審譯者: C Leung
00:04
This is for my mom,
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這段演講要獻給我媽,
00:06
even though when I called her to say,
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雖然我打電話給她說,
00:09
"Hey, have you heard of TED, T-E-D?"
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「嘿,你聽過 TED 嗎, T-E-D?」
00:12
She said, "Oh my God, Kelly, it's not another virus, is it?"
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她回答:「天啊,凱利, 不會是又有什麼病毒吧?」
00:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:23
As a 21-year-old, I was drawn to the word brave.
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21 歲的時候,我被 「勇敢」這個詞吸引。
00:28
I had a soft spot for ripping yarns and the people who could tell them.
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我總是喜歡編故事, 也喜歡有故事可講的人。
00:32
So, Odyssey on the brain,
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所以,我腦中充滿奧德賽的情節,
00:35
I went out adventure collecting.
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出發收集冒險經驗。
00:37
Without knowing how to spell starboard or which side it referred to,
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我不知道怎樣拼「右舷」這個字 或是它指的是那一邊,
00:42
I got on a 46-foot boat and I sailed from Malta to Tunisia to Sicily.
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卻登上一艘 46 英尺長的船,
從馬爾他航行到突尼西亞, 再到西西里島。
00:48
I traveled 11,000 miles over 13 months to seven different countries
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我在 13 個月裡 航行了一萬一千英里,
到過七個國家,
00:54
without a plan or a phone or a credit card.
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沒有計畫、沒有手機、也沒有信用卡,
00:59
Just 3,800 dollars in traveler's checks,
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只有 3800 美元的旅行支票。
01:03
which, if you're under 30,
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如果你不到 30 歲,
01:05
it was like a little booklet of --
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旅行支票就像是本小冊子,上面……
01:07
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:09
perforated, I don't know.
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是有撕孔的,我也不清楚。
01:11
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:14
And some expired antibiotics my mom made me bring.
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還有一些過期的抗生素, 是我媽叫我帶的。
01:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:20
And then, running out of money,
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然後,錢花光了,
01:21
I landed as a nanny for two kids, four and seven,
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我成為兩個孩子的保姆, 一個是四歲,一個是七歲,
01:25
who had just lost their mom.
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他們剛剛失去媽媽。
01:27
I moved into their house,
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我搬進他們家,
01:29
so I could cover things on the three days a week
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以便在他們爸爸一週三天的 值勤時間照顧他們,
01:32
their dad worked as a flight attendant for Qantas.
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他是澳洲航空的空服員。
01:36
I smeared sunblock on their noses and Vegemite on their toast.
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我在他們的鼻子上擦防曬、 在吐司上塗維吉麥醬。
01:40
I read them to sleep at night, I cleaned the counters.
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晚上我唸故事給他們聽, 也整理廚房流理台。
01:43
The heavy lifting was left for the truly brave,
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繁重的工作則留給了真正勇敢的人,
01:48
a man who organized his emotions
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那個能控制情緒、
01:51
and answered the hardest questions,
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回答最難的問題的人,
01:53
such that his kids and hers
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這樣,他和她的孩子們
01:57
could feel a modicum of safety in a patently unsafe world.
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才能在這個充滿危險的世界中 感到一絲安全感。
02:03
Questions like "what is cremation?"
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問題像是「火葬是什麼?」
02:06
And "what happens to us if you die?"
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還有「如果你死了,我們怎麼辦?」
02:09
And so it is that I stood witness to the unphotographable,
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就這樣,在澳洲雪梨, 一個名叫吉姆的人身上,
02:12
unmeasurable bravery of some guy named Jim in Sydney, Australia.
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我見證了無法拍照、難以估量的勇氣。
02:18
And over the years since,
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多年來,
02:20
I find I just can't stop cataloging these Olympic achievements in family life.
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我發現自己無法停止記錄 這些家庭生活中奧運式的成就。
02:27
The really big things often come with a game plan and a team of experts
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真正的大事往往需要 一個計劃和一群專家,
02:31
and enough adrenaline to lift a school bus over your head.
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還有讓你能舉起一輛校車的 大量腎上腺素。
02:35
But inside every crisis you think you might be ready for
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但每當你以為已經準備好應對危機時,
02:39
are 100 dirty surprises that are not in the playbook.
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卻還會有 100 件 劇本中沒有的可怕突襲。
02:43
I had stage-3 cancer in my 30s,
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三十多歲時我患了三期癌症,
02:47
and I can tell you that following the chemo schedule
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我可以告訴你,遵循化療時間表
02:50
didn't take nearly as much courage
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並不需要多少勇氣,
02:52
as admitting to my husband that sex felt less sexy
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遠比不上向丈夫坦承, 性愛不再感覺那麼迷人,
02:59
after my boobs, which were once a real strong suit for me --
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因為我的乳房,曾是我的一大優勢,
03:03
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:05
Were made weird and uneven by a surgeon's knife.
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已被外科手術搞得又奇怪又不對稱。
03:10
Here's a surprise.
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另一個突襲。
03:11
My friend's father, in his final days, addled by dementia,
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我朋友的父親,在活著的最後幾天, 被失智症弄糊塗了,
03:15
chased her around the second floor with a fork
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用藏在睡衣裡的叉子
03:18
he hid in his pajamas.
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追著她在二樓跑。
03:20
They tell you there will be loss.
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人們告訴你會有失去,
03:23
They don't tell you you will be required to love your dad
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但他們沒告訴你, 你還是得愛你的父親,
03:25
even as he's coming for you with silverware.
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即使他拿了叉子衝著你來。
03:29
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:30
I've interviewed 228 people for my PBS show and my podcast,
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在公共廣播電視的節目和播客, 我訪問過 228 個人,
03:36
people with huge careers, Grammys
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他們的職業生涯輝煌,
03:38
and Pulitzers and NBA championships.
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擁有葛萊美獎、 普立茲獎和 NBA 冠軍。
03:43
And I listened to their stories and I'm duly impressed.
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我聽他們的故事, 對他們的成就感到敬佩。
03:46
But I'll tell you the ones they know the best.
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但我告訴你,他們最了解的故事
03:48
The ones they can't tell without choking up.
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卻是那些他們無法 不哽咽地說完的故事。
03:51
The moment when Bryan Stevenson's grandmother,
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像是 Bryan Stevenson (布萊恩·史蒂文森)的祖母,
03:54
or Steve Kerr's father,
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Steve Kerr (史蒂夫·科爾)的父親,
03:57
or Samantha Power's stepfather,
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Samantha Power (薩曼莎·鮑爾)的繼父,
03:59
or Cecile Richards’ mom,
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或是 Cecile Richards (塞西爾·理查茲)的母親,
04:01
was right there with the right words
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他們在某個關鍵時刻
04:04
or the right silence at the right moment.
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給予了適時的話語或沉默。
04:08
This bravery I'm talking about might even be better understood
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我所談論的這種勇敢,
或許在面對家庭生活中的 小小傷害時,更容易理解,
04:12
if you look at the smaller moments of injury in family life
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04:16
when there's not really an answer, or it might be your fault,
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通常沒有解答,或者可能是你的錯,
04:20
or it might remind you of something you'd rather forget.
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或者會讓你想起寧可忘記的事情。
04:23
Or because people are so suggestible
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因為人們會受他人影響,
04:26
and the wrong tone or expression or phrasing
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一個錯誤的語調、表情或措辭
04:30
might somehow make things worse.
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可能會讓情況更加糟糕。
04:32
Say your kid was dropped from a group text.
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比如,你的孩子 被一個群組聊天踢了出來。
04:35
They were in it, they mattered,
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他曾在群組裡,覺得自己滿重要的,
04:36
they belonged, and then, poof.
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他有歸屬感,但突然間,消失了。
04:38
Or your husband blew the big deal at work,
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或者你的丈夫在工作上犯了大錯,
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or your mom won't wear the diapers
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或者你媽媽不願意
04:42
that would really help her get through mahjong on Wednesdays.
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在星期三打麻將時,穿上該穿的尿布。
04:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:48
And how should we calibrate the exquisite bravery
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我們該如何校準這種極致的勇敢,
04:52
to respond productively
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以有效地回應,
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when someone in our family looks at us and says,
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當家人看著我們說,
04:58
"Do I know you?"
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「你誰呀?」、
05:00
"I weigh myself before and after every meal,"
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「我每餐前後都會稱體重」、
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"I hear voices," "I steal,"
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「我聽見有人跟我說話」、 「我會偷東西」、
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"I'm using again,"
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「我又開始嗑藥了」、
05:07
"He raped me," "She says I raped her,"
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「他性侵我」、「她說我強暴她」、
05:10
"I cut myself,"
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「我自殘」、
05:11
"I bought a gun,"
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「我買了槍」、
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"I stopped taking the medication,"
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「我不要吃藥了」、
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"I can't stop making online bets."
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「我無法停止在網上下注」、
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"Sometimes I wonder if more life is really worth all this effort."
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「有時候我在想,再多的生命 真的值得如此盡力嗎?」
05:23
Bravery is the great guts to move closer to the wound,
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勇敢是靠著堅定的膽量,靠近傷口,
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as composed as a war nurse
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像一位戰地護士一樣
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holding eye contact and saying these seven words:
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堅定地對視,說出這幾句話:
05:35
Tell me more.
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「再多說一些。
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What else?
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還有呢?
05:37
Go on.
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繼續說。」
05:39
That's how the brave shine, that's all they do.
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這就是勇敢人的亮點, 這就是他們做的一切。
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They say, "Tell me more.
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他們說:「再多說一些。
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What else?
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還有呢?
05:44
Go on."
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繼續說。」
05:46
Even if they're scared of what might happen next,
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即使他們也害怕 接下來可能會發生的事,
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even if they have no training or experience
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即使他們沒有任何訓練或經驗
05:51
to prepare them for this moment.
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來準備好面對這一刻。
05:53
Even if it's late and they have an early flight.
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即使很晚了,而隔天要搭早班飛機。
05:57
Here's two things the brave don't do.
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有兩件事,勇敢的人不會做。
06:01
They don't take over and become the hero
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第一,他們不會介入去成為英雄,
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like it's a battle and the moves are so obvious.
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就像在戰鬥中,招式很明顯。
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You just pick up a weapon with your ripped pecs and ropey veins
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你只需要拿起武器, 憑著發達的胸肌,青筋暴現,
06:12
and start slaying.
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開始戰鬥。
06:15
In families, bravery is mostly just sitting there.
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在家庭裡,勇敢的人 多半只是坐在那裡。
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With a posture that communicates "I can hear anything you want to tell me."
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用一種傳達「我能聽你說 任何事情」的姿態,
06:23
And a nice warm face of love that says, "This is so hard,
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並以充滿愛意的溫暖表情說:
「這真的很難, 但你會找到解決辦法的。」
06:29
but you will figure it out."
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06:31
Personally, I thought love meant action.
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我原以為愛意味著行動。
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I had no idea it could be so still.
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我完全沒想到愛可以這麼靜止不動。
06:38
When things get hairy for one of my people,
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當我的家人遇到困難時,
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everything in me wants to grab a clipboard,
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我滿心只想抓起記事板,
06:43
make a to-do list, and start calendaring appointments.
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列出待辦事項,並開始安排預約。
06:47
Because where there's love, there's attachment.
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因為有愛就有依附。
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And I don't care what the gurus say,
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我不在乎那些心靈大師說什麼,
06:52
what's happening to them is also happening,
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發生在他們身上的事情 至少在某種程度上
06:54
at least at some level, to us.
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也發生在我們身上。
06:57
And all that can accidentally put us center stage.
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這一切都可能無意間 讓我們成為舞台中心的主角。
07:01
No longer the coach or the minister,
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不再是人生教練或牧師,
07:04
but rather one of the afflicted.
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而是成為受苦者之一。
07:07
But these gritty endurance types I've been admiring
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但是,這些我一向仰慕的 堅毅類型的人,
07:10
have no self and no needs and no agenda.
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沒有自我、沒有需求、沒有隱秘意圖。
07:13
Or at least they know how to override all that
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或者至少他們知道
如何壓抑一切衝動, 因為我們不是主角。
07:16
for the main character who is not us.
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07:20
The second thing the brave don't do?
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勇敢的人不會做的第二件事?
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Leave.
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離開。
07:25
Or hide inside work or hobbies
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或者躲在工作、嗜好
07:28
or some other socially acceptable busyness.
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或其他社會認可的忙碌中。
07:31
In my worst moments, when sitting on my hands is just unbearable,
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在我最困難的時期, 無所事事讓我無法忍受,
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I have dreamed of going to get an MFA in Paris.
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我夢想著去巴黎,拿個藝術碩士學位。
07:39
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:41
Because if I can't help, why do I have to watch?
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因為如果我無法幫忙, 為什麼還要我旁觀?
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It would be nice to leave and start again.
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離開並重新開始是個不錯的選擇。
07:49
Hardly anyone who's been in a long marriage
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幾乎每個結婚很久的人 至少會在心裏納悶過,
07:51
hasn't at least wondered how it is
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他們慾望的對象怎麼會 變得如此會打嗝、放屁。
07:53
that the object of their desire has become so burpy and farty.
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07:59
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:01
So bingo-armed and turkey-necked.
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手臂鬆弛,脖子皺紋像火雞。
08:06
Sometimes I see myself naked.
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有時候我看到自己裸體,
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Stretch marks from pregnancies, scars from cancer surgeries,
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懷孕後的妊娠紋,癌症手術的疤痕,
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other things that I don't feel you need to be visualizing right about now.
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還有其他我覺得 你不需要想像的東西。
08:15
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:20
And I think it's a miracle that man stays with me.
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我覺得那個男人依然 和我在一起真是一個奇蹟。
08:24
But, you know, he's not untouched by time either.
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不過,他也沒能逃過時間的摧殘。
08:26
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:30
And that's just the physical.
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這只是身體上的。
08:32
I mean, who here hasn't wanted to be with someone
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我的意思是,誰沒想過
和某個沒有見過我們在廁所吃東西 或者對著客服發火的人在一起?
08:35
who hasn't seen us eating on the toilet or bitching at the Comcast guy?
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08:39
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:40
Leaving behind our own humiliating history,
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把自己的丟臉過往拋在腦後,
08:44
maybe with the nice person we met at art school in Paris.
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也許就跟在巴黎藝術學校 遇到的那個好人在一起。
08:47
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:49
It's an option.
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這是個選擇。
08:50
People take it.
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人們會選擇這樣做。
08:52
The brave hang around.
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但勇敢的人會留下來。
08:54
They are available and ready to bear witness.
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他們會在身邊,準備見證一切。
08:59
The final act of bravery was made clear for me
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最後一個勇敢的行為 是在我與朋友莉茲的對話中
09:01
during a conversation with my friend Liz
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變得清晰明瞭的,
09:04
while she was dying at 46.
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那時她 46 歲,即將去世。
09:07
She said she had this weird, long,
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她說她做了一個奇怪、 漫長而非常真實的夢,
09:09
totally convincing dream
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09:12
where all the parents who, as she put it,
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夢見那些不得不早早離世的父母們
09:15
had to leave early,
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09:18
were gathered.
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聚在一起。
09:19
And there she was, one of thousands of moms and dads,
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她在成千上萬的爸爸媽媽之中,
09:23
and they were on folding chairs,
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坐在摺疊椅上,
09:25
looking down at the world below through a thick glass floor.
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通過厚厚的玻璃地板,向下看著世間。
09:30
And in this imaginary space her subconscious created,
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在這個她潛意識創造的幻想空間中,
09:34
there was one rule.
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有一條規則。
09:36
You could watch your child's life unfold,
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你可以看著兒女們展開人生旅程,
09:38
but you could only intervene once.
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但只有一次出手幫忙的機會。
09:43
In Liz's dream, a perfect dream,
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在莉茲的夢中,一個完美的夢,
09:46
she never had to intervene.
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她從未需要出手。
09:48
She had given them enough while she was here.
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她在世時已經給了他們足夠的愛。
09:52
The final act then of the truly brave
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所以,真正勇敢的最後一個行為
09:55
is leaning back and letting them go.
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是退後一步,放手。
10:00
The reward for all this bravery?
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勇敢的獎賞?
10:02
Not gold medals, not hero shots for Strava,
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不是金牌,不是在運動社交平台上 炫耀的英雄式照片。
10:06
not ringing the bell at the New York Stock Exchange,
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不是到紐約證券交易所敲鐘,
10:09
or owning the dinner party with Burning Man stories,
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或者在晚宴上講述 火人節的故事並成為焦點,
10:12
I think you know who you are.
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我想你知道我在說誰。
10:14
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:22
Maybe not even thanks.
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可能甚至不是感謝。
10:25
The reward is a full human experience,
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獎賞是充份的人的經歷,
10:30
complete with all the emotions at maximum dosage,
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因各種最飽滿的情緒而完整,
10:34
where we have been put to great use
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我們盡力貢獻,
10:37
and found an other-centric love
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找到了以他人為中心的愛,
10:40
that is complete in its expression
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這種愛要在表達和傳遞中才是完整的。
10:44
and its transmission.
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10:46
The reward is to end up soft and humble,
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獎賞是最終變得溫和和謙卑,
10:49
empty and in awe,
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豁然且敬畏,
10:51
knowing that of all the magnificence we have beheld from cradle to grave,
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知道從搖籃到墳墓, 我們所見證的所有壯麗中,
10:57
the most eye-popping was interpersonal.
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最令人驚嘆的是人與人之間的互動。
11:02
So here's to anyone who notices and reads between the lines,
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所以,向那些注意並讀懂 細微之處的人致敬;
11:07
who asks the right questions, but not too many,
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向那些問對問題, 但不問太多的人致敬;
11:10
who takes notes at the doctor's office
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向那些在醫生診間做筆記
11:12
and wipes butts, young and old,
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和擦屁股的人致敬,不論老少;
11:16
who listens, holds and stays.
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向那些傾聽、陪伴並守候的人致敬。
11:20
We, who, untrained
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我們這些未經訓練
11:24
and always a little off-guard,
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且總是有些措手不及的人,
11:26
still dare to do love.
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仍然敢於去愛,
11:30
To be love.
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敢於成為愛。
11:32
That's brave.
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這才是真正的勇敢。
11:34
Thank you.
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謝謝大家。
11:35
(Cheers and applause)
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(歡呼和掌聲)
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