How isolation fuels opioid addiction | Rachel Wurzman

71,579 views ・ 2018-11-19

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00:13
What does it mean to be normal?
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正常的意思是什么?
00:16
And what does it mean to be sick?
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有病又意味着着什么?
00:21
I've asked myself this question from the time I was about seven,
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我从 7 岁起就问自己这个问题,
00:24
when I was diagnosed with Tourette syndrome.
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当时我被诊断患有妥瑞氏症。
00:27
Tourette's is a neurological disorder
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妥瑞氏症是一种神经障碍,
00:29
characterized by stereotyped movements I perform against my will, called tics.
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以违反本意的刻板动作为特征,也叫抽搐。
00:35
Now, tics are technically involuntary,
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抽搐基本上是无意识的,
00:38
in the sense that they occur without any conscious attention
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抽搐是在我没有任何有意识注意或意图
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or intention on my part.
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的情况下发生的。
00:44
But there's a funny thing about how I experience tics.
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但我所经历的抽搐有一件有趣的事。
00:49
They feel more unvoluntary than involuntary,
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它们感到的是不自愿多于强制。
00:53
because I still feel like it's me moving my shoulder,
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因为我仍能感觉到是我在移动我的肩膀,
00:56
not some external force.
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而不是外力使然。
00:58
Also, I get this uncomfortable sensation, called premonitory urge,
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我也有这种不舒服的感觉,叫前兆的冲动,
01:03
right before tics happen,
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就在抽搐发生前,
01:04
and particularly when I'm trying to resist them.
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尤其当我试图抗拒它时。
01:07
Now, I imagine most of you out there understand what I'm saying,
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现在,我想你们大多数人理解我所说的,
01:10
but unless you have Tourette's, you probably think you can't relate.
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但除非你有妥瑞氏症, 你可能认为你无法感同身受。
01:15
But I bet you can.
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但我打赌你能。
01:17
So, let's try a little experiment here and see if I can give you
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所以,让我们来做个小实验看我能不能
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a taste of what my experience feels like.
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让你体验一番我的感觉怎么样。
01:23
Alright, ready?
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好了,准备好了吗?
01:25
Don't blink.
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不要眨眼。
01:27
No, really, don't blink.
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不,真的,别眨眼。
01:28
And besides dry eyes, what do you feel?
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除了眼睛干涩,你还有什么感觉?
01:33
Phantom pressure?
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幻影压力?
01:35
Eyelids tingling?
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眼睛刺痛?
01:37
A need?
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需要?
01:39
Are you holding your breath?
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你在屏住呼吸吗?
01:41
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:42
Aha.
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阿哈。
01:43
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:47
That's approximately what my tics feels like.
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这大概就是我抽搐的感觉。
01:52
Now, tics and blinking, neurologically speaking, are not the same,
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从神经学的角度来说, 抽搐和眨眼是不一样的,
01:56
but my point is that you don't have to have Tourette's
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但我的点在于你不需要有抽搐症
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to be able to relate to my experience of my premonitory urges,
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就能够跟我的先兆冲动体验联系起来,
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because your brain can give you similar experiences and feelings.
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因为你的大脑会给你相似的体验和感受。
02:12
So, let's shift the conversation from what it means to be normal versus sick
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所以,让我们把对话 从什么是正常、什么是有病
02:17
to what it means that a majority of us are both normal and sick.
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转到我们大多数人的 正常和有病意味着什么。
02:24
Because in the final analysis, we're all humans
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因为归根结底,我们全都是
02:28
whose brains provide for a spectrum of experiences.
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由大脑提供一系列体验的人类。
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And everything on that spectrum of human experiences
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并且人类体验的所有东西
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is ultimately produced by brain systems
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最终都是由认为处于不同状态的
02:41
that assume a spectrum of different states.
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大脑系统产生的。
02:45
So again, what does it mean to be normal,
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那么再问一句,正常的意思是什么,
02:48
and what does it mean to be sick,
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有病又意味着什么,
02:50
when sickness exists on the extreme end of a spectrum of normal?
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当疾病处于正常范围的极端边缘时呢?
02:57
As both a researcher who studies differences in how individuals' brains
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作为一个研究个体大脑
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wire and rewire themselves,
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任何连接和重组的研究者,
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and as a Touretter with other related diagnoses,
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以及作为妥瑞氏症和相关疾病患者,
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I have long been fascinated by failures of self-regulation
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长期以来,我一直被冲动和强迫行为谱系
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on the impulsive and compulsive behavioral spectrums.
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的自我调节失败所困扰。
03:15
Because so much of my own experience of my own body
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因为我自己身体的体验
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and my own behavior
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和我自己的行为
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has existed all over that map.
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在那张图谱上到处都是。
03:25
So with the spotlight on the opioid crisis,
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随着阿片类药物危机进入聚光灯下,
03:31
I've really found myself wondering lately:
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我最近发现自己在想:
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Where on the spectrum of unvoluntary behavior
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我们会把滥用阿片类止痛药或海洛因
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do we put something like abusing opioid painkillers or heroin?
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放在非自愿行为范围的哪里呢?
03:45
By now, we all know that the opioid crisis and epidemic is out of control.
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目前为止,我们都知道阿片类药物 的危机和流行已经无法控制。
03:52
Ninety-one people die every day in this country from overdose.
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这个国家每天有 91 个人因为过度使用而死亡。
03:55
And between 2002 and 2015,
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在 2002 年到 2015 年间,
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the number of deaths from heroin increased by a factor of six.
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死于海洛因的人数增加了六倍。
04:04
And something about the way that we treat addiction isn't working,
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还有我们治疗上瘾的方法不起作用,
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at least not for everyone.
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至少不对任何人都有效。
04:11
It is a fact that people suffering from addiction
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事实上沉迷于上瘾的人
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have lost free will
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已经失去自由意志,
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when it comes to their behavior around drugs, alcohol, food
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当涉及到他们所染上的药物、酒精、食物
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or other reward-system stimulating behaviors.
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或其他奖励系统刺激行为的行为时。
04:26
That addiction is a brain-based disease state
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上瘾作为一种以大脑为基础的疾病,
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is a medical, neurobiological reality.
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是医学和神经生物学的现实。
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But how we relate to that disease --
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但我们如何与这种疾病联系起来——
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indeed, how we relate to the concept of disease when it comes to addiction --
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确实,当我们谈到上瘾时 如何与疾病的概念联系起来——
04:43
makes an enormous difference for how we treat people with addictions.
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这会让我们对待上瘾的人的方式大为不同。
04:49
So, we tend to think of pretty much everything we do as entirely voluntary.
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我们倾向于认为我们所做 的一切都是完全自主的。
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But it turns out that the brain's default state
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但其实大脑的默认状态
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is really more like a car idling in drive than a car in park.
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其实更像一辆怠速中的汽车而非停止的汽车。
05:04
Some of what we think we choose to do
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一些我们认为我们选择去做的事情
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is actually things that we have become programmed to do
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其实是当刹车松开时,我们
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when the brakes are released.
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被编程去做的事情。
05:14
Have you ever joked that your brain was running on autopilot?
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你曾经开玩笑说过你的大脑在自动驾驶吗?
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Guess what?
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猜猜怎么的?
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It probably was.
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它可能真是。
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OK?
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明白?
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And the brain's autopilot is in a structure called the striatum.
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大脑的自动驾驶仪位于 一个叫做纹状体的结构中。
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So the striatum detects emotional and sensory motor conditions
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纹状体检测情绪和感官运动状况,
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and it knows to trigger whatever behavior you have done most often
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它知道在同样的条件下去触发
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in the past under those same conditions.
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你过去常做的任一行为。
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Do you know why I became a neuroscientist?
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你知道我为什么成为一名神经科学家吗?
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Because I wanted to learn what made me tick.
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因为我想知道是什么让我抽搐。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:00
Thank you, thank you.
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谢谢,谢谢。
06:01
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I've been wanting to use that one in front of an audience for years.
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多年来,我一直想在观众面前使用这个词。
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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So in graduate school, I studied genetic factors
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所以在研究生时,我研究了
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that orchestrate wiring to the striatum during development.
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形成纹状体发展过程中的基因因素。
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And yes, that is my former license plate.
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是的,那是我以前的车牌。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And for the record, I don't recommend
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注意一下,我不推荐
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any PhD student get a license plate with their thesis topic printed on it,
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哪个博士研究生拿到印有 他们论文题目的车牌,
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unless they're prepared for their experiments not to work
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除非他们准备接下来两年
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for the next two years.
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的实验不出成果。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I eventually did figure it out.
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我最终确实解决了。
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So, my experiments were exploring how miswiring in the striatum
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我的实验是探索纹状体中的错误连接
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relates to compulsive behaviors.
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是如何与强迫行为有关的。
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Meaning, behaviors that are coerced
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意思是,由不舒服的冲动
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by uncomfortable urges you can't consciously resist.
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所强迫的行为,你无法有意识地抗拒。
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So I was really excited when my mice developed
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所以当我的老鼠出现这种强迫行为时,
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this compulsive behavior,
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我真的很兴奋,
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where they were rubbing their faces and they couldn't seem to stop,
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它们擦着脸,似乎停不下来,
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even when they were wounding themselves.
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即便它们在伤害自己。
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OK, excited is the wrong word,
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好吧,兴奋是个错误的词汇,
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I actually felt terrible for them.
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我其实为它们感到糟糕。
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I thought that they had tics, evidence of striatal miswiring.
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我认为它们有抽搐,这是纹状线错误的证据。
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And they were compulsive,
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它们有强迫症,
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but it turned out, on further testing,
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但原来是,在进一步的测试中,
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that these mice showed an aversion to interacting
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这些老鼠表现出了对了解和
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and getting to know other unfamiliar mice.
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与不熟悉的老鼠互动的厌恶。
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Which was unusual, it was unexpected.
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这很不寻常,很出乎意料。
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The results implied that the striatum,
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结果提示纹状体,
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which, for sure, is involved in compulsive-spectrum disorders,
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肯定,与强迫症有关,
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is also involved in human social connection and our ability to --
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也涉及人们的社会联系和我们的能力——
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not human social connection, but our ability to connect.
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不是人们的社会联系, 而是我们社会连接的能力。
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So I delved deeper,
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所以我更深入地研究,
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into a field called social neuroscience.
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进入一个叫社会神经科学的领域。
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And that is a newer, interdisciplinary field,
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这是一个新兴的跨学科领域,
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and there I found reports that linked the striatum
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在那里我发现了一些报告表明纹状体
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not just to social anomalies in mice,
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不仅仅与老鼠的社交异常有关,
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but also in people.
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也对人类有关。
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As it turns out, the social neurochemistry in the striatum
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事实证明,纹状体中的社交神经化学与
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is linked to things you've probably already heard of.
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你可能已经听说过的东西有关。
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Like oxytocin,
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比如催产素,
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which is that hormone that makes cuddling feel all warm and fuzzy.
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正是这种荷尔蒙让拥抱的感觉温暖而迷离。
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But it also implicates signaling at opioid receptors.
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但它也暗示了阿片受体的信号传递。
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There are naturally occurring opioids in your brain
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大脑中自然产生的阿片类物质
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that are deeply linked to social processes.
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与社交过程密切相关。
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Experiments with naloxone, which blocks opioid receptors,
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用能阻断阿片类受体的纳洛酮做的实验,
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show us just how essential this opioid-receptor signaling is
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向我们展示了这种阿片受体信号
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to social interaction.
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对社交互动多么重要。
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When people are given naloxone -- it's an ingredient in Narcan,
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当人们服用纳洛酮时—— 纳洛酮是纳尔康的一种成分,
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that reverses opioid overdoses to save lives.
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可以逆转阿片类药物过量来拯救生命。
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But when it's given to healthy people,
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但这个药物给到健康的人时,
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it actually interfered with their ability to feel connected
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这实际上干扰了他们
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to people they already knew and cared about.
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与已经认识和关心的人建立联系的能力。
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So, something about not having opioid-receptor binding
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所以,没有阿片类受体的结合,
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makes it difficult for us to feel the rewards of social interaction.
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我们就很难感受到社会互动的回报。
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Now, for the interest of time,
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现在,为了时间的考虑,
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I've necessarily gotten rid of some of the scientific details,
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我必须去掉一些科学细节,
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but briefly, here's where we're at.
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但简短地说,这就是我们的进展。
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The effects of social disconnection through opioid receptors,
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通过阿片受体的社会脱节的影响,
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the effects of addictive drugs
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成瘾药物的影响,
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and the effects of abnormal neurotransmission
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以及神经传导异常对
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on involuntary movements and compulsive behaviors
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无意识运动和强迫行为的影响,
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all converge in the striatum.
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所有都集中在纹状体上。
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And the striatum and opioid signaling in it
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纹状体和其中的阿片类信号
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has been deeply linked with loneliness.
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与孤独密切相关。
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When we don't have enough signaling at opioid receptors,
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当我们没有足够的阿片受体信号时,
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we can feel alone in a room full of people we care about and love, who love us.
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在一个满是我们关心和爱着,同时也爱 我们的人的房间,我们也会感到孤独。
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Social neuroscientists, like Dr. Cacioppo at the University of Chicago,
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社会神经科学家,比如芝加哥大学 的卡西奥普博士(Dr. Cacioppo),
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have discovered that loneliness is very dangerous.
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发现孤独非常危险。
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And it predisposes people
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它使人容易患上
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to entire spectrums of physical and mental illnesses.
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各种生理和心理疾病。
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Think of it like this: when you're at your hungriest,
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这样想:当你最饿的时候,
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pretty much any food tastes amazing, right?
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几乎所有的食物尝起来都很美味,对吧?
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So similarly, loneliness creates a hunger in the brain
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所以类似,孤独也会在大脑中造成饥饿,
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which neurochemically hypersensitizes our reward system.
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在神经化学上会导致我们的 奖赏系统处于敏感状态。
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And social isolation acts through receptors
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社会隔离通过这些
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for these naturally occurring opioids and other social neurotransmitters
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自然产生的阿片类物质和其他 社会神经传递素的受体作用
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to leave the striatum in a state
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使纹状体处于一种状态,
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where its response to things that signal reward and pleasure
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会对表示奖励和快乐的事物的
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is completely, completely over the top.
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反应完全过度。
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And in this state of hypersensitivity,
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在这种过敏状态下,
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our brains signal deep dissatisfaction.
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我们的大脑发出强烈不满的信号。
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We become restless, irritable and impulsive.
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我们变得焦躁不安、易怒和冲动。
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And that's pretty much when I want you to keep the bowl of Halloween chocolate
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这非常像当我让你们把整个房间里面的
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entirely across the room for me, because I will eat it all.
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万圣节巧克力给我留下,因为我会全部吃光。
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I will.
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我会的。
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And that brings up another thing that makes social disconnection
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这就引发了另一件让社会脱节如此
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so dangerous.
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危险的事情。
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If we don't have the ability to connect socially,
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如果我们没有社交能力,
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we are so ravenous for our social neurochemistry to be rebalanced,
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我们如此渴望我们的社会神经化学重新平衡,
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we're likely to seek relief from anywhere.
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我们可能会在任何地方寻求解脱。
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And if that anywhere is opioid painkillers or heroin,
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如果那是阿片类止痛药或海洛因,
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it is going to be a heat-seeking missile for our social reward system.
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它将成为我们社交奖励系统的热追踪导弹。
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Is it any wonder people in today's world are becoming addicted so easily?
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当今世界的人们如此容易上瘾, 这有什么好奇怪的吗?
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Social isolation --
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社交孤立——
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excuse me --
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抱歉——
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contributes to relapse.
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导致复发。
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Studies have shown that people who tend to avoid relapse
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研究表明,那些倾向于避免复发的人
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tend to be people who have broad, reciprocal social relationships
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往往是那些有着广泛、互惠的社会关系的人,
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where they can be of service to each other,
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他们可以相互帮助,
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where they can be helpful.
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他们可以提供帮助。
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Being of service lets people connect.
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能够帮助让人们产生联系。
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So --
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所以——
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if we don't have the ability to authentically connect,
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如果我们没有能力建立真正的联系,
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our society increasingly lacks this ability to authentically connect
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我们的社会日渐缺乏这种真正联系
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and experience things that are transcendent and beyond ourselves.
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和体验超越自己的能力。
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We used to get this transcendence
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我们曾经从对家庭和
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from a feeling of belonging to our families and our communities.
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社区的归属感中获得这种超越。
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But everywhere, communities are changing.
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但到处,社区在发生变化。
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And social and economic disintegration is making this harder and harder.
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并且社会和经济的解体使 这一目标越来越难以实现。
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I'm not the only person to point out
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我不是唯一一个指出
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that the areas in the country most economically hard hit,
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受经济打击最大的国家地区,
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where people feel most desolate about their life's meaning,
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那些人们对生活的意义感到最孤独的地方,
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are also the places
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那里也是
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where there have been communities most ravaged by opioids.
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阿片类药物肆虐最严重的地区。
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Social isolation acts through the brain's reward system
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社交孤立通过大脑的奖励系统起作用
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to make this state of affairs literally painful.
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让这种状态很痛苦。
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So perhaps it's this pain, this loneliness,
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也许就是这种痛苦,这种孤独,
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this despondence
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这种沮丧,
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that's driving so many of us to connect with whatever we can.
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让我们如此多的人抓住一切的稻草。
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Like food.
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比如食物,
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Like handheld electronics.
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比如手持电子产品。
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And for too many people, to drugs like heroin and fentanyl.
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还有对太多的人来说,则是像海洛因 和芬太尼这样的毒品。
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I know someone who overdosed, who was revived by Narcan,
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我认识一个使用过量的人, 被纳洛酮救活后,
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and she was mostly angry that she wasn't simply allowed to die.
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她非常生气的是自己不被允许去死。
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Imagine for a second how that feels, that state of hopelessness, OK?
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试想一下那种感觉,那种绝望的感觉,好吧?
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But the striatum is also a source of hope.
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但是纹状体也是希望的源泉。
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Because the striatum gives us a clue of how to bring people back.
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因为纹状体给了我们如何把人们带回来的线索。
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So, remember that the striatum is our autopilot,
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所以,记住纹状体是我们的自动驾驶仪,
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running our behaviors on habit,
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按习惯行事,
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and it's possible to rewire, to reprogram that autopilot,
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并且是有可能重连,重新编程这个自动驾驶仪,
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but it involves neuroplasticity.
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但这涉及到神经可塑性。
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So, neuroplasticity is the ability of brains
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神经的可塑性是大脑
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to reprogram themselves,
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重新编程自己的能力,
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and rewire themselves, so we can learn new things.
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并且重连它们,这样我们就能够学新东西。
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And maybe you've heard the classic adage of plasticity:
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也许你听过关于可塑性的经典格言:
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neurons that fire together, wire together.
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一起激发的神经元连在一起。
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Right?
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是吧?
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So we need to practice social connective behaviors
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所以我们需要实践社交联结行为
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instead of compulsive behaviors, when we're lonely,
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而非强迫性的行为,当我们孤独时,
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when we are cued to remember our drug.
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当我们被提示记起我们的药物时。
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We need neuronally firing repeated experiences
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我们需要重复的神经放电体验
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in order for the striatum to undergo that necessary neuroplasticity
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来让纹状体经历必要的神经可塑性,
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that allows it to take that "go find heroin" autopilot offline.
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从而让“去找海洛因”的自动驾驶仪下线。
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And what the convergence of social neuroscience, addiction
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而社会神经科学、成瘾
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and compulsive-spectrum disorders in the striatum suggests
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和强迫性神经障碍在纹状体中的融合表明
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is that it's not simply enough
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仅仅教会纹状体
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to teach the striatum healthier responses to compulsive urges.
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对强迫性冲动做出更健康的反应是不够的。
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We need social impulses to replace drug-cued compulsive behaviors,
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我们需要社交脉冲 来取代毒品带来的强迫性行为,
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because we need to rebalance, neurochemically, our social reward system.
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因为我们需要在神经化学上 重新平衡我们的社交奖励系统。
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And unless that happens,
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除非这个发生,
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we're going to be left in a state of craving.
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我们会陷入渴望的状态。
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No matter what besides our drug we repeatedly practice doing.
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无论我们除了药物之外,我们重复实践做什么。
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I believe that the solution to the opioid crisis
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我相信阿片类药物危机的解决方案
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is to explore how social and psychospiritual interventions
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在于探索社交和精神干预
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can act as neurotechnologies in circuits
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如何作为神经技术在处理
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that process social and drug-induced rewards.
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社交和药物诱导奖励的回路中发挥作用。
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One possibility is to create and study scalable tools
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一种可能是创造和研究可扩展的工具,
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for people to connect with one another
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让人们通过心理和精神实践
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over a mutual interest
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在恢复方面的
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in recovery through psychospiritual practices.
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共同利益上相互联系。
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And as such, psychospiritual practice could involve anything
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正因为如此,精神实践可以涉及任何东西,
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from people getting together as megafans of touring jam bands,
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从人们聚集在一起,组成巡回乐队,
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or parkour jams, featuring shared experiences of vulnerability
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或者跑酷的交通堵塞,分享共同的脆弱体验
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and personal growth,
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和个人成长,
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or more conventional things, like recovery yoga meetups,
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或者更传统的东西,比如恢复瑜伽,
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or meetings centered around more traditional conceptions
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或者围绕更传统的精神体验观念
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of spiritual experiences.
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展开的会议。
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But whatever it is,
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但不管是什么,
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it needs to activate
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它需要激活
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all of the neurotransmitter systems in the striatum
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纹状体中所有参与处理
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that are involved in processing social connection.
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社会联系的神经递质系统。
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Social media can't go deep enough for this.
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社交媒体在这方面的深度还不够。
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Social media doesn't so much encourage us to share,
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社交媒体在鼓励我们分享上面
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as it does to compare.
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远不如鼓励相互攀比。
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It's the difference between having superficial small talk with someone
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这是与某人进行肤浅的闲聊
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and authentic, deeply connected conversation with eye contact.
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和用眼神进行真诚、深入的交谈的区别。
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And stigma also keeps us separate.
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羞耻也让我们分离。
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There's a lot of evidence that it keeps us sick.
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有很多的证据表明它会让我们生病。
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And stigma often makes it safer for addicts to connect with other addicts.
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羞耻常常让瘾君子跟瘾君子 联系变得更加安全。
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But recovery groups centered around reestablishing social connections
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但以重建社会关系为中心的康复小组
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could certainly be inclusive of people who are seeking recovery
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肯定会包括那些
因一系列心理健康问题寻求康复的人。
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for a range of mental health problems.
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My point is, when we connect around what's broken,
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我的观点是,当我们围绕破坏的东西联系起来,
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we connect as human beings.
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我们作为人类联系在一起。
17:33
We heal ourselves from the compulsive self-destruction
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我们从强迫性的对隔离的痛苦反应中
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that was our response to the pain of disconnection.
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的自我毁灭里治愈自己。
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When we think of neuropsychiatric illnesses as a spectrum of phenomenon
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当我们认为神经精神疾病是构成
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that are part of what make us human,
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我们人类自身的一系列现象的一部分时,
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then we remove the otherness of people who struggle with self-destruction.
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那么我们就消除了把那些挣扎在 自我毁灭中的人视为异类的看法。
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We remove the stigma
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我们消除了医生、
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between doctors and patients and caregivers.
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病人和护理人员之间的耻辱。
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We put the question of what it means to be normal versus sick
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我们把正常和疾病的区别是什么的问题
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back on the spectrum of the human condition.
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放回到人类状态的范围上。
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And it is on that spectrum where we can all connect
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正是在这个范围上, 我们所有人都能联系起来,
18:19
and seek healing together, for all of our struggles with humanness.
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一起寻求治愈,为所有与人性的斗争。
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Thank you for letting me share.
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谢谢让我分享。
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(Applause)
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