How doctors can help low-income patients (and still make a profit) | P.J. Parmar

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Translator: Ivana Korom Reviewer: Krystian Aparta
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Colfax Avenue, here in Denver, Colorado,
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科尔法克斯大道位于科罗拉多州丹佛市,
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was once called the longest, wickedest street in America.
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曾被称为美国“最长,最邪恶的街道”。
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My office is there in the same place -- it's a medical desert.
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我的办公室就在那儿—— 那片医疗资源极度匮乏的地区。
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There are government clinics and hospitals nearby,
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虽然附近有政府诊所和医院,
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but they're not enough to handle the poor who live in the area.
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但根本不够医治这个地区的穷人。
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By poor, I mean those who are on Medicaid.
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我所说的穷人是指 那些接受医疗补助的人。
不仅指无家可归的人; 美国有20%的人都接受医疗补助。
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Not just for the homeless; 20 percent of this country is on Medicaid.
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If your neighbors have a family of four and make less than $33,000 a year,
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如果你邻居家有四口人, 年收入不到33,000美元,
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then they can get Medicaid.
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那么他们就能获得医疗补助。
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But they can't find a doctor to see them.
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然而他们却找不到医生治病。
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A study by Merritt Hawkins
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梅里特霍金斯公司做的
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found that only 20 percent of the family doctors in Denver
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一个研究发现, 丹佛只有20%的家庭医生
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take any Medicaid patients.
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接受使用医疗补助的病人。
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And of those 20 percent, some have caps, like five Medicaid patients a month.
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在这20%的医生中,有的有数量限制, 比如一个月看5位医疗补助病人。
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Others make Medicaid patients wait months to be seen,
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有些医生则让使用医疗补助的 病人等上几个月,
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but will see you today, if you have Blue Cross.
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但如果你有蓝十字医疗险, 你今天就能接受治疗。
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This form of classist discrimination is legal
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这种阶级歧视是合法的,
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and is not just a problem in Denver.
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并且不仅丹佛存在这个问题。
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Almost half the family doctors in the country
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几乎一半的美国家庭医生
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refuse to see Medicaid patients.
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都拒绝接收使用医疗补助的病人。
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Why?
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为什么?
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Well, because Medicaid pays less than private insurance
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因为医疗补助支付的金额比私人保险低,
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and because Medicaid patients are seen as more challenging.
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而且人们总觉得接收 使用医疗补助的病人更麻烦。
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Some show up late for appointments, some don't speak English
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他们有些人会迟到,有些人不会说英语,
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and some have trouble following instructions.
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有些人在遵循医嘱上也存在困难。
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I thought about this while in medical school.
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在医学院时我就想过这些问题。
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If I could design a practice that caters to low-income folks
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如果我能设计出一个适合低收入人群
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instead of avoiding them,
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而非拒绝他们的医疗模式
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then I would have guaranteed customers and very little competition.
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那么我的客源就有保证,而且竞争很小。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So after residency, I opened up shop, doing underserved medicine.
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所以在住院医生实习结束后,我开了 一家服务低医疗服务水平人群的诊所。
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Not as a nonprofit, but as a private practice.
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不是非盈利组织,而是私人诊所。
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A small business seeing only resettled refugees.
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一个小生意,只为重新安置的难民看病。
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That was six years ago,
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那是在6年前,
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and since then, we've served 50,000 refugee medical visits.
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自那之后,我们已经为 5万难民提供了医疗服务。
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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Ninety percent of our patients have Medicaid,
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我们的病人中90%有医疗补助,
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and most of the rest, we see for free.
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对其他剩下的大部分人, 我们提供免费诊疗。
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Most doctors say you can't make money on Medicaid,
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很多医生说你无法 在使用医疗补助的病人身上赚钱,
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but we're doing it just fine.
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但我们的收入还不错。
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How?
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如何做到的呢?
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Well, if this were real capitalism, then I wouldn't tell you,
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如果这是资本主义,我可不会告诉你,
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because you'd become my competition.
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因为你们会成为我的竞争对手。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But I call this "bleeding-heart" capitalism.
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但我把这称为“软心肠”的资本主义。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And we need more people doing this, not less, so here's how.
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我们需要更多的人参与进来, 我们是这么做的。
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We break down the walls of our medical maze
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我们把服务使用医疗补助的病人的
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by taking the challenges of Medicaid patients,
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挑战转化为机会,
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turning them into opportunities, and pocketing the difference.
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并从中赚取差价,来解开我们的医疗谜题。
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The nuts and bolts may seem simple, but they add up.
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螺母和螺栓看起来很简单, 但它们加起来却能发挥巨大的作用。
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For example, we have no appointments.
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比如,我们无需预约。
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We're walk-in only.
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我们采取即到即诊的模式。
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Of course, that's how it works at the emergency room,
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也就是说,急诊室和 塔可钟(墨西哥快餐品牌)
采用了相同的模式。
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at urgent cares and at Taco Bell.
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But not usually at family doctor's offices.
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但这些在家庭医生的办公室并不常见。
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Why do we do it?
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我们为什么要这样做?
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Because Nasra can't call for an appointment.
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因为像纳斯拉这样的人没法预约。
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She has a phone, but she doesn't have phone minutes.
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她有电话,但她没钱付话费。
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She can't speak English, and she can't navigate a phone tree.
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她不会说英语,也不会查询通讯录。
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And she can't show up on time for an appointment
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她无法在预约时间准时出现,
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because she doesn't have a car, she takes the bus,
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因为她没有私家车,她需要乘坐公车,
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and she takes care of three kids plus her disabled father.
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并且她需要照顾3个小孩 外加她残疾的父亲。
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So we have no appointments;
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所以我们不提供预约服务;
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she shows up when she wants,
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她想来的时候就来,
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but usually waits less than 15 minutes to be seen.
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通常等待不到15分钟就能就诊。
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She then spends as much time with us as she needs.
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我们会充分保证她的就诊时长。
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Sometimes that's 40 minutes, usually it's less than five.
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有时候是40分钟,但通常不到5分钟。
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She loves this flexibility.
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她喜欢这种弹性。
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It's how she saw doctors in Somalia.
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她在索马里就是这样看医生的。
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And I love it, because I don't pay staff to do scheduling,
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这也让我很开心,因为我不需要 额外雇人负责预约事项,
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and we have a zero no-show rate and a zero late-show rate.
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我们的爽约率和迟到率为零。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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It makes business sense.
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这很有商业价值。
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Another difference is our office layout.
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另一个不同是我们办公室的布局。
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Our exam rooms open right to the waiting room,
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我们的检查室和候诊室相通,
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our medical providers room their own patients,
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每个医生都和他们自己的 病人独享一个房间,
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and our providers stay in one room instead of alternating between rooms.
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我们的服务人员集中在一个房间里, 而不需要在两个房间之间来回穿梭。
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Cutting steps cuts costs and increases customer satisfaction.
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削减流程降低了成本,提高了客户满意度。
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We also hand out free medicines, right from our exam room:
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我们还在诊室分发免费药品:
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over-the-counter ones and some prescription ones, too.
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非处方药和一些处方药。
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If Nasra's baby is sick,
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如果纳斯拉的孩子病了,
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we put a bottle of children's Tylenol or amoxicillin right in her hand.
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我们会直接给她一瓶 儿童泰诺或阿莫西林。
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She can take that baby straight back home instead of stopping at the pharmacy.
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她可以直接带孩子回家, 而无需再去药店。
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I don't know about you, but I get sick just looking at all those choices.
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我不知道你们怎么想, 但我一见到这一大堆药就头晕。
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Nasra doesn't stand a chance in there.
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纳斯拉根本没法在这里买药。
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We also text patients.
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我们也给病人发短信。
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We're open evenings and weekends.
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我们晚上和周末都营业。
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We do home visits.
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我们做家访。
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We've jumped dead car batteries.
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我们把汽车电池都跑到没电了。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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With customer satisfaction so high, we've never had to advertise,
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有这么高的客户满意度, 我们根本不用打广告,
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yet are growing at 25 percent a year.
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还能以每年25%的速度增长。
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And we've become real good at working with Medicaid,
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我们变得很熟悉Medicaid的业务,
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since it's pretty much the only insurance company we deal with.
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因为它几乎是我们 唯一合作的保险公司。
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Other doctor's offices chase 10 insurance companies
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其他医生的诊所同时 与10家保险公司合作
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just to make ends meet.
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以实现收支平衡,
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That's just draining.
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但收效甚微。
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A single-payer system is like monogamy: it just works better.
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单一支付方制度就像一夫一妻制: 它就是效果更好。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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Of course, Medicaid is funded by tax payers like you,
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当然,医疗补助计划由像 你们这样的纳税人资助,
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so you might be wondering, "How much does this cost the system?"
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所以你们可能会好奇, “这个系统要花多少钱?”
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Well, we're cheaper than the alternatives.
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我们比主流方案便宜。
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Some of our patients might go to the emergency room,
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我们有些病人去急诊室,
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which can cost thousands, just for a simple cold.
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仅仅一个简单的感冒, 就要花数千美元。
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Some may stay home and let their problems get worse.
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有些人则呆在家中,坐等问题恶化。
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But most would try to make an appointment at a clinic that's part of the system
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但是大多数人会尝试在 属于联邦授权医疗中心的
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called the Federally Qualified Health Centers.
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一个诊所预约。
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This is a nationwide network of safety-net clinics
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这是一个覆盖全国的诊所安全网络,
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that receive twice as much government funding per visit
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每次看病得到的政府资助
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than private doctors like me.
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是像我这样的私人医生的两倍。
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Not only they get more money,
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他们不仅收取更高的费用,
根据法律,每个地区只能有一个。
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but by law, there can only be one in each area.
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That means they have a monopoly on special funding for the poor.
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这意味着他们垄断了为穷人 提供的特殊资金。
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And like any monopoly,
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跟任何垄断一样,
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there's a tendency for cost to go up and quality to go down.
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总是成本会上升,质量会下降。
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I'm not a government entity; I'm not a nonprofit.
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我不是政府实体,我不是非盈利组织。
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I'm a private practice.
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我是个私人诊所。
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I have a capitalist drive to innovate.
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我有资本主义的创新动力。
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I have to be fast and friendly.
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我必须高效和友好。
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I have to be cost-effective and culturally sensitive.
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我得有成本效益和文化敏感性。
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I have to be tall, dark and handsome.
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我必须又高又黑又帅。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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And if I'm not, I'm going out of business.
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如果不具备这些,我的生意就会垮掉。
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I can innovate faster than a nonprofit,
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我比非盈利组织在创新方面更高效,
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because I don't need a meeting to move a stapler.
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因为我不需要开个会 来决定是否拆除缝合器。
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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Really, none of our innovations are new or unique --
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我们的创新都不是新的或独创的——
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we just put them together in a unique way
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我们只是用一种独特的方法 把它们组合在一起,
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to help low-income folks while making money.
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在帮助低收入人群的同时还赚钱。
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And then, instead of taking that money home,
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然后,我会把这些钱投入难民社区
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I put it back into the refugee community as a business expense.
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作为商业支出,而不是拿回家。
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This is Mango House.
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这是芒果屋。
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My version of a medical home.
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我创建的医疗之家。
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In it, we have programs to feed and clothe the poor,
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在那里,我们为穷人提供食物和衣服,
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an after-school program, English classes,
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提供课外项目,英语课,
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churches, dentist, legal help, mental health and the scout groups.
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教堂,牙医,法律援助, 心理辅导和童子军等项目。
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These programs are run by tenant organizations
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这些项目由承租组织
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and amazing staff,
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和出色的员工运作,
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but all receive some amount of funding form profits from my clinic.
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但他们都从我的诊所获得了一些资金。
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Some call this social entrepreneurship.
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有人称之为社会企业家精神。
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I call it social-service arbitrage.
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我称之为社会服务套利。
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Exploiting inefficiencies in our health care system to serve the poor.
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利用我们卫生保健系统的 低效率为穷人服务。
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We're serving 15,000 refugees a year
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我们每年服务15,000位难民,
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at less cost than where else they would be going.
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且比其他地方花费更少。
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Of course, there's downsides to doing this as a private business,
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当然,作为私人企业, 既非非盈利组织,也非政府实体,
做这个也有不利的一面。
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rather than as a nonprofit or a government entity.
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There's taxes and legal exposures.
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有税收和法律风险。
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There's changing Medicaid rates and specialists who don't take Medicaid.
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有不断变化的医疗补助率和 不接受医疗补助病人的专家。
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And there's bomb threats.
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还有炸弹威胁。
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Notice there's no apostrophes, it's like,
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请注意,这里少了个标点符号, 所以表达的意思就变成了,
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"We were going to blow up all you refugees!"
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“我们本来要炸掉你们这些难民!”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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"We were going to blow up all you refugees,
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“我们本来要炸掉你们这些难民,
但后来我们去上了你们的英语课。”
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but then we went to your English class, instead."
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08:37
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
(鼓掌)
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(Applause)
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08:47
Now, you might be thinking, "This guy's a bit different."
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现在,你可能在想, “这家伙的确有一套。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Uncommon.
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罕见。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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A communal narcissist?
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一个公共自恋者?
08:55
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:56
A unicorn, maybe,
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也许还是独角兽,
08:57
because if this was so easy, then other doctors would be doing it.
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但如果这么简单的话, 其他医生也会这样做。
09:01
Well, based on Medicaid rates, you can do this in most of the country.
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根据医疗补助率,你可以在 全国大部分地区这样做。
09:04
You can be your own boss,
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你可以做自己的老板,
09:06
help the poor and make good money doing it.
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帮助穷人并赚大钱。
09:09
Medical folks,
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医学院的人
09:10
you wrote on your school application essays
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可能在申请学校时说过
09:12
that you wanted to help those less fortunate.
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你想帮助那些不幸的人。
09:15
But then you had your idealism beaten out of you in training.
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但你的理想情怀在训练过程中丢掉了。
09:18
Your creativity bred out of you.
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你的创造力不复存在了。
09:21
It doesn't have to be that way.
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你们本可以做得更好。
09:24
You can choose underserved medicine as a lifestyle specialty.
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你可以选择医疗服务不足的 领域作为毕生专业。
09:29
Or you can be a specialist
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或者你可以选择成为
09:30
who cuts cost in order to see low-income folks.
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降低成本,为低收入人群看病的专家。
09:34
And for the rest of you, who don't work in health care,
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对不从事医疗保健行业的其他人来讲,
你的申请表是怎么写的?
09:37
what did you write on your applications?
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09:39
Most of us wanted to save the world, to make a difference.
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我们大部分人想要 拯救世界,改变现状。
09:43
Maybe you've been successful in your career
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你们也许在你们的职业中已足够成功,
09:45
but are now looking for that meaning?
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现在正在寻找生活的意义?
09:48
How can you get there?
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你如何能够实现那个目标?
09:51
I don't just mean giving a few dollars or a few hours;
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我指的不是捐献一些钱或几个小时;
09:54
I mean how can you use your expertise to innovate new ways of serving others.
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我的意思是你如何使用你的专业技能, 以新的方式去服务他人?
10:00
It might be easier than you think.
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这可能没你想的那么难。
10:03
The only way we're going to bridge the underserved medicine gap
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我们能够弥补医疗服务不足的唯一方法
10:06
is by seeing it as a business opportunity.
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是将其视为商业机会。
10:08
The only way we're going to bridge the inequality gap
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我们缩小不平等差距的唯一途径
10:11
is by recognizing our privileges and using them to help others.
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是认识到我们的特权, 并利用这些特权帮助他人。
10:16
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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