Reducing corruption takes a specific kind of investment | Efosa Ojomo

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翻译人员: psjmz mz 校对人员: Wei Zhang
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So in 2011,
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在 2011 年,
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someone broke into my sister's office
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有人闯进了我妹妹
00:16
at the university where she teaches in Nigeria.
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在尼日利亚一所大学任教的办公室。
00:20
Now thankfully, the person was caught, arrested and charged to court.
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幸运的是,我们抓获,逮捕 并且向法庭起诉了此人。
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When I get into court,
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当我进入法庭时,
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the clerks who were assigned to my sister's case informed her
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被分派处理我妹妹案件的办事员 告诉我妹妹说,
00:30
that they wouldn't be able to process the paperwork
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如果我妹妹能给点好处,他们才会
00:32
unless she paid a bribe.
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处理她的文书工作。
00:35
Now, at first she thought it was part of a practical joke.
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我妹妹最初认为这是种政治玩笑,
00:38
But then she realized they were serious.
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但后来才意识到他们没有开玩笑。
00:40
And then she became furious.
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于是我妹妹变得十分愤怒。
00:42
I mean, think about it: here she was, the recent victim of a crime,
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试想一下,她是作为 此次犯罪的受害者,
00:47
with the very people who were supposed to help her,
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理应负责帮助我妹妹的每一个人
00:50
and they were demanding a bribe from her.
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却向我妹妹索要好处。
00:53
That's just one of the many ways
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这只是腐败影响我国
00:56
that corruption impacts millions of people in my country.
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数百万人中,众多方式的一种。
01:00
You know, growing up in Nigeria,
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在我成长的尼日利亚,
01:02
corruption permeated virtually every element of the society.
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腐败几乎渗透到社会的各个层面。
01:06
Reports of politicians embezzling millions of dollars were common.
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政客们贪污数百万美元 的报道屡见不鲜。
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Police officers stealing money
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警察盗窃金钱
01:14
or extorting money from everyday hardworking citizens
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或向每天辛勤工作 的公民勒索钱财
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was routine practice.
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早已司空见惯。
01:20
I felt that development could never actually happen,
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这我觉得,只要持续存在腐败问题,
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so long as corruption persisted.
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社会就永远得不到发展。
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But over the past several years,
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但在过去几年中,
01:28
in my research on innovation and prosperity,
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在我所进行的关于 创新与繁荣的研究中,
01:32
I've learned that corruption is actually not the problem hindering our development.
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我了解到,腐败其实 并不是阻碍我们发展的问题所在。
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In fact,
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事实上,
01:38
conventional thinking on corruption and its relationship to development
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对腐败和发展的关系的传统想法
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is not only wrong, but it's holding many poor countries backwards.
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不仅是错误的, 而且它拖了很多贫穷国家的后腿。
01:48
So, the thinking goes like this:
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这种想法大概是这样的:
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in a society that's poor and corrupt,
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在贫穷且腐败的社会中,
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our best shot at reducing corruption is to create good laws,
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我们减少腐败的最好方法 是构建良好的法律,
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enforce them well,
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并有效执行,
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and this will make way for development and innovation to flourish.
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这将辅助发展与创新走向繁荣。
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Now, it makes sense on paper,
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在纸上倒是行的通,
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which is why many governments and development organizations
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这也是为什么很多政府和发展组织
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invest billions of dollars annually
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在机构改革和反腐败项目上面,
02:11
on institutional reform and anti-corruption programs.
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每年投资数十亿美元。
02:15
But many of these programs fail to reduce corruption,
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但很多这些项目没能减少腐败,
02:18
because we have the equation backwards.
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因为我们本末倒置了。
02:21
You see, societies don't develop because they've reduced corruption.
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要知道,不是因为腐败减少了 而社会得以发展,
02:26
They're able to reduce corruption because they've developed.
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而是社会发展了才能减少腐败。
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And societies develop through investments in innovation.
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社会发展是通过 对创新的投资来实现。
02:37
Now, at first, I thought this was impossible.
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起初,我认为这不可能。
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Why would anyone in their right mind
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怎么会有一个正常人
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invest in a society where, at least on the surface,
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投资一个至少表面看起来
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it seems a terrible place to do business?
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非常不适合做生意的地方?
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You know, a society where politicians are corrupt
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怎么会有人投资一个腐败的、
02:50
and consumers are poor?
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消费贫瘠的社会?
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But then, the more I learned about
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但在更多的了解了
创新与腐败的关系后,
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the relationship between innovation and corruption,
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02:57
the more I started to see things differently.
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我开始以不同眼光看待事情。
撒哈拉以南非洲地区
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Here's how this played out in sub-Saharan Africa
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在发展电信产业时 就面临这样的情况。
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as the region developed its telecommunications industry.
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In the late 1990s,
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在 1990 年代末,
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fewer than five percent of people in sub-Saharan Africa had phones.
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不到 5% 的撒哈拉以南非洲 地区的人们拥有手机。
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In Nigeria, for example, the country had more than 110 million people
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比如尼日利亚有超过 1.1 亿人口,
03:18
but fewer than half a million phones in the whole nation.
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但整个国家只拥有不到 50 万部手机。
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Now, this scarcity fueled widespread corruption in the industry.
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手机的稀缺加剧了行业的腐败。
03:26
I mean, public officials who worked for the state-owned phone companies
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在该州电话公司工作的公务人员
要求想拥有电话的人提供好处。
03:30
demanded bribes from people who wanted phones.
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03:32
And because most people couldn't afford to pay the bribes,
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由于很多人付不起贿赂金额,
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phones were only available to those who were wealthy.
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所以只有富人用得起电话。
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Then an entrepreneur named Mo Ibrahim
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然后有一名叫莫·伊布拉欣的企业家,
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decided that he would set up a telecommunications company
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他决定要在这个国家成立
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on the continent.
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一家电信公司。
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Now, when he told his colleagues about his idea, they just laughed at him.
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当他告诉同事们他的想法时, 他们只是取笑他。
03:50
But Mo Ibrahim was undeterred.
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但莫·伊布拉欣并未放弃。
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And so in 1998, he set up Celtel.
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于是在 1998 年,他创立了Celtel。
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The company provided affordable mobile phones and cell service
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该公司为数百万非洲人 提供了可负担的移动电话
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to millions of Africans,
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和电话服务。
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in some of the poorest and most corrupt countries in the region --
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甚至包括该地区一些 非常贫穷和腐败的国家——
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I mean countries such as Congo, Malawi,
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比如刚果、马拉维、
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Sierra Leone and Uganda.
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塞拉利昂和乌干达。
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You see, in our research, we call what Mo Ibrahim built
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在我们的研究中, 我们将莫·伊布拉欣构建服务
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a "market-creating innovation."
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的称为“市场创建创新”。
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Market-creating innovations transform complicated and expensive products
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“市场创建创新”把 复杂昂贵的产品转型成为
简单可负担的产品。
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into products that are simple and affordable,
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04:26
so that many more people in society could access them.
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让社会中的每一个人都可以使用。
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Now in this case, phones were expensive
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在此案例中,Celtle 使电话
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before Celtel made them much more affordable.
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相较之前的价格更加负担得起。
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As other investors -- some of his colleagues, actually --
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其它投资者而言, 确切来说,一些他的同事,
认为在非洲成功的 建设一家电信公司
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saw that it was possible to create a successful mobile phone company
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04:43
on the continent,
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是有可能的,
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they flooded in with billions of dollars of investments.
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他们投资了数十亿美元。
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And this led to significant growth in the industry.
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这一行为给该行业带来了明显增长。
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From barely nothing in 2000,
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从 2000 年的几乎一无所有,
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today, virtually every African country now has
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到如今几乎每个非洲国家 现在都拥有一个
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a vibrant mobile telecommunications industry.
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充满活力的移动通信市场。
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The sector now supports close to one billion phone connections,
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这个行业目前支持 将近 10 亿个用户终端,
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it has created nearly four million jobs
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创造了将近 400 万份工作,
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and generates billions of dollars in taxes every year.
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并且每年增加了数十亿的税收。
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These are taxes that governments can now reinvest into the economy
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政府现在能使用税收 重新投入到经济中
建设他们的体系。
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to build their institutions.
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And here's the thing:
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重点是:
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because most people no longer have to bribe public officials
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大部分的人不再为了得到一部电话
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just to get a phone,
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而贿赂公务人员,
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corruption -- at least within this industry -- has reduced.
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至少在该行业中, 腐败自然就减少了。
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Now, if Mo Ibrahim had waited for corruption to be fixed
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如果莫·易卜拉欣 在沙哈拉以南非洲地区
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in all of sub-Saharan Africa before he invested,
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的腐败问题解决后投资,
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he would still be waiting today.
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他现在仍旧在等待。
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You know, most people who engage in corruption know they shouldn't.
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诚然,大多数人知道 自身不应该参与腐败。
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I mean, the public officials who were demanding bribes from people
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向想得到一部电话的人要求贿赂
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to get phones
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的公务人员
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and the people who were paying the bribes --
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以及支付贿赂金额的人
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they knew they were breaking the law.
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他们清楚自己违反了法律,
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But they did it anyways.
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但他们还是这样做了。
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The question is: Why?
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问题是为什么?
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The answer?
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答案?
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Scarcity.
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稀缺。
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See, whenever people would benefit from gaining access
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无论何时,一个人将从稀缺中获利
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to something that scarce,
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都会使得腐败
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this makes corruption attractive.
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具有诱惑力。
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You know, in poor countries, we complain a lot about corrupt politicians
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在贫穷的国家, 我们经常抱怨腐败的政客,
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who embezzle state funds.
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他们私吞国家公款。
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But in many of those countries, economic opportunity is scarce,
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但是在这些众多的国家里, 经济机会是稀缺的,
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and so corruption becomes an attractive way to gain wealth.
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所以腐败成为了具有诱惑力 的获得钱财的方式。
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We also complain about civil servants like police officers,
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我们也经常抱怨 像警察这样的公务人员
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who extort money from everyday hardworking citizens.
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从每天辛勤工作的 公民身上敲诈钱财。
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But most civil servants are grossly underpaid
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但是绝大多数公务人员 的工资越来越少,
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and are leading desperate lives.
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过着令人绝望的生活。
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And so for them, extortion or corruption is a good way to make a living.
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所以对他们而言, 敲诈或腐败是他们谋生的好方法。
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You know, this phenomenon also plays itself out in wealthy countries as well.
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这个现象在富裕国家也普遍存在。
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When rich parents bribe university officials --
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当富裕的父母贿赂 大学工作人员时——
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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When rich parents bribe university officials
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当富裕的父母贿赂大学工作人员,
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so their children can gain admission into elite colleges,
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让他们的孩子可以获得 进入精英大学就读的机会,
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the circumstance is different,
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情况则不同。
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but the principle is the same.
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但原理一样。
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I mean, admission into elite colleges is scarce,
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我的意思是进入精英大学 就读的机会稀缺,
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and so bribery becomes attractive.
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所以贿赂变得具有诱惑力。
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The thing is,
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关键在于,
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I'm not trying to say there shouldn't be things that are scarce in society
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我并不是说,在社会中 不应该存在稀缺的或是
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or things that are selective.
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具有选择性的事物,
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What I'm just trying to explain
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我只是想解释
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is this relationship between corruption and scarcity.
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腐败与稀缺之间的关系。
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And in most poor countries, way too many basic things are scarce.
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在绝大多数贫穷的国家里, 很多基本物品都是稀缺的。
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I mean things like food,
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我指的是像食物、
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education,
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教育、
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health care,
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医疗、
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economic opportunity,
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经济机会
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jobs.
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和工作等。
07:46
This creates the perfect breeding ground for corruption to thrive.
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这是孕育腐败的温床, 会任其肆意滋长。
07:51
Now, in no way does this excuse corrupt behavior.
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这绝不是腐败行为的借口,
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It just helps us understand it a bit better.
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只是能帮助我们更好的了解腐败。
07:58
Investing in businesses that make things affordable
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投资那些让更多人能够负担得起
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and accessible to so many more people
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并且可以获取的业务,
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attacks this scarcity
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能够对抗稀缺问题,
08:06
and creates the revenues for governments to reinvest in their economies.
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并给政府制定一个 经济再投资解决方案。
08:11
Now, when this happens on a countrywide level,
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在全国水平上发生这些事情时,
08:15
it can revolutionize nations.
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可以给这个国家带来改革。
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Consider the impact in South Korea.
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思考一下这对于韩国的影响。
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Now, in the 1950s,
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在 1950 年,
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South Korea was a desperately poor country,
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韩国是个非常贫穷并且
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and it was very corrupt.
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腐败的国家。
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The country was ruled by an authoritarian government
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这个国家由一个独裁的政府控制,
08:32
and engaged in bribery and embezzlement.
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并且政府参与了贪污和挪用。
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In fact, economists at the time said South Korea was trapped in poverty,
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事实上,那时的经济学家说 韩国陷入了贫困,
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and they referred to it as "an economic basket case."
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他们把它称为“经济上的烂摊子”。
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When you looked at South Korea's institutions,
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看看韩国的体系,
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even as late as the 1980s,
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甚至到了 1980 年末,
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they were on par with some of the poorest and most corrupt African countries
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还与那时候的一些最贫穷 和最腐败的非洲国家
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at the time.
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处于同等水平。
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But as companies like Samsung, Kia, Hyundai
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然而像三星、起亚和现代这些公司
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invested in innovations that made things much more affordable
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的投资创新使大多数的人 能够负担的起
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for so many more people,
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这些物品。
09:06
South Korea ultimately became prosperous.
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韩国社会最终繁荣了起来。
09:09
As the country grew prosperous,
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随着国家日渐繁荣,
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it was able to transition from an authoritarian government
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它能够实现从独裁政府
09:15
to a democratic government
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向民主政府的转变。
并且能够再投资去建设其体系。
09:18
and has been able to reinvest in building its institutions.
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09:22
And this has paid off tremendously.
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这一变化已经取得了惊人的成功。
09:25
For instance, in 2018,
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例如,在 2018 年,
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South Korea's president was sentenced to 25 years in prison
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韩国总统因为腐败相关指控
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on corruption-related charges.
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被判处 25 年监禁。
09:34
This could never have happened decades ago when the country was poor
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在几十年前,作为由独裁政府 所控制的贫困国家,
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and ruled by an authoritarian government.
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这是绝不会发生的。
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In fact, as we looked at most prosperous countries today, what we found was,
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实际上,对于现在大多数 的繁荣国家而言,
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they were able to reduce corruption as they became prosperous --
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我们发现,在发展繁荣的过程中, 这些国家也能够
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not before.
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减少腐败。
09:53
And so where does that leave us?
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那么我们该如何处理呢?
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I know it may sound like I'm saying we should just ignore corruption.
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我知道,这听起来像是在说, 我们应该忽视腐败。
10:01
That's not what I'm saying at all.
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我可没这个意思。
10:03
What I'm suggesting, though,
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相反,我想表达的是,
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is that corruption, especially for most people in poor countries,
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腐败,尤其是对贫穷国家 的大多数人来说,
10:10
is a work-around.
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是一种权宜之计,
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It's a utility
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一种在没有
10:13
in a place where there are fewer better options to solve a problem.
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更优解决方案情况下的实用工具。
10:17
Investing in innovations that make products much more affordable
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在产品上投资创新,让更多的人
10:21
for many people
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负担得起,
10:23
not only attacks this scarcity
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不仅能够对抗稀缺问题,
10:25
but it creates a sustainable source of revenue
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还能为政府创造持续的税收来源,
10:28
for governments to reinvest into the economies
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用于重新投入经济运营,
10:31
to strengthen their institutions.
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从而加强体系建设。
10:34
This is the critical missing piece in the economic development puzzle
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在经济发展拼图中至关重要 并遗失的这一块拼图,
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that will ultimately help us reduce corruption.
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将最终帮助我们减少腐败。
对尼日利亚失去希望时,我 16 岁。
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You know, I lost hope in Nigeria when I was 16.
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10:46
And in some ways, the country has actually gotten worse.
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在某种程度上, 这个国家正变得越来越糟。
除了普遍的贫穷和地方腐败,
10:50
In addition to widespread poverty and endemic corruption,
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Nigeria now actually deals with terrorist organizations
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尼日利亚实际上正在 跟博科圣地这样
10:57
like Boko Haram.
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的恐怖组织做交易。
10:59
But somehow, I am more hopeful about Nigeria today
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然而,我对尼日利亚从未
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than I have ever been before.
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像现在这样充满希望。
11:05
When I see organizations investing in innovations
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当我看到组织机构投资创新,
11:09
that are creating jobs for people
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为人们创造工作机会,
11:11
and making things affordable --
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并且努力降低商品价格时——
11:13
I mean organizations like Lifestores Pharmacy,
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我指的是像 Lifestores Pharmacy 这样
11:16
making drugs and pharmaceuticals more affordable for people;
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生产廉价药品的公司,
11:21
or Metro Africa Xpress,
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或者 Metro Africa Xpress,
11:23
tackling the scarcity of distribution and logistics for many small businesses;
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解决了许多小企业 配送和物流不足的问题;
11:28
or Andela, creating economic opportunity for software developers --
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或者 Andela, 他们为 软件开发者创造了经济机会。
11:33
I am optimistic about the future.
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我对未来非常乐观。
11:36
I hope you will be, too.
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我希望你们也一样。
11:38
Thank you.
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谢谢。
11:39
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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