Inside the massive (and unregulated) world of surveillance tech | Sharon Weinberger
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A few years ago,
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几年前,
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an American defense consultant I know
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我认识的一位美国国防顾问
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told me about a trip
he took to Uzbekistan.
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为我讲述了他在
乌兹别克斯坦的一段旅行。
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His role there was to help sell technology
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他在那里的任务是
协助技术销售,
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that the Uzbek government could use
to spy on its own citizens.
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通过该技术,乌兹别克斯坦政府
可以对国民进行监视。
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He eventually shared with me
the marketing material
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他最终向我分享了
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he'd presented to the Uzbek government.
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他向乌兹别克斯坦政府
提交的营销材料。
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One glossy brochure featured technology
that could not just intercept phone calls,
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这本印刷精美的小册子,
介绍了不但可以拦截电话,
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but identify the caller,
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而且可以识别
来电者身份的技术,
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regardless of what phone number
they were using,
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该技术不受其所
使用的电话号码的约束,
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based on their unique voiceprint,
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而是基于他们独特的声纹,
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and then identify their exact
geographic location.
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之后还能确定他们的
确切地理位置。
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This is a guy who had been involved
with the arms trade for years.
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这是个参与军火贸易多年的人。
00:48
He wasn't some Hollywood-type gunrunner
doing backroom deals.
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他不是那种好莱坞式的,
在密室交易的军火走私商。
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He was just a guy that worked
with legitimate Western companies
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他只是一个与西方合法公司合作,
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to help sell their weapons abroad.
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协助外销武器的人。
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But he wasn't bothered
by marketing this sort of technology.
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但让他感到烦恼的
并不是营销之类的技术。
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For him, it was just the next step
in the arms trade.
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对他而言,这只是
军火交易的下一步。
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And it was even easier than, say,
selling weapons to Iraq,
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它甚至比,比如说,
卖武器给伊拉克还容易,
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because it didn't require
an export license
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因为这不需要从美国政府
那里获得出口许可,
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from the US State Department,
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后者是大部分军火销售
需要经历的
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the way most arms sales would.
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必要流程。
事实证明,这些监视工具
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It turns out that these
tools of surveillance
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are almost completely unregulated,
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几乎完全不受监管,
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because as of today,
they're not defined as weapons.
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因为它们迄今
仍未被定义为武器。
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But they should be, and we need
to regulate them that way.
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但是理应如此,而且我们
需要对之加以管理。
01:21
I'm a journalist
who has spent the last two decades
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我是一名记者,
在过去的二十年里,
我一直在关注
军事和情报界是如何
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looking at how the military
and intelligence world
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spurs the development
of new science and technology.
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促进新型科技发展的。
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I've tracked the emergence of new weapons
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我对新式武器的出现
进行了追踪,
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and looked to see what happens
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并希望弄清
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when companies start to market
these weapons abroad.
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当公司开始向国外销售
这些武器时会发生什么。
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But what is a weapon
in the information age?
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但是,在信息时代,
什么算是武器呢?
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We know that armed drones are weapons,
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我们知道武装无人机是武器,
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missiles and bombs are weapons,
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导弹和炸弹是武器,
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but the State Department
actually classifies
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但是事实上,被美国国务院
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broad categories
of technologies as weapons.
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归类为武器的技术种类很广泛。
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So for example, a scientist going abroad
on an oceanographic research vessel,
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比如,一个科学家
乘远洋勘探船去往国外,
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they want to take
the latest night-vision goggles?
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想要佩戴最新的夜视镜。
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That, according to the State Department,
is potentially a weapon.
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根据国务院的说法,
这也是潜在的武器。
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Why?
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为什么?
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Well, because though night-vision goggles
are used today by scientists
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因为虽然夜视镜目前被科学家
和猎人在世界范围内使用,
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and hunters around the world,
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it was a capability
first developed for the military.
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但是它的功能最初
是为军事用途开发的。
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And yet, tools of surveillance
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然而根据国务院目前的说法,
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that an authoritarian regime could use
to spy on its own citizens,
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那些可以被专制政权用来
对公民、持不同政见者和记者
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on dissidents, on journalists,
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进行监视的工具,
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that, according to the US government
today, is not a weapon.
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却不是武器。
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And yet, these tools of surveillance
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然而,这些监视工具是
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are part of a growing secretive
multi-billion-dollar industry.
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一个价值数十亿美金的,
不断增长的秘密行业。
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The genesis of this spy bazaar
goes back some 18 years,
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这个间谍市场的起源
可以追溯到大约 18 年前,
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to a Hilton hotel in northern Virginia,
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北弗吉尼亚的一家希尔顿酒店里。
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just a few miles away
from the US Central Intelligence Agency.
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这里离美国中央情报局
只有几英里远。
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A few dozen people,
mostly dark-suited men,
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几十个人, 大多是
穿着黑色西装的男子,
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gathered there in the spring of 2002
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于 2002 年春天聚集在那里,
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for a conference with
the unassuming name of ISS World.
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为了参加一个被低调命名为
“ISS 世界” 的会议。
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You know, at first glance, this conference
probably looked like dozens of events
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乍一看,这个会议好像与几十个
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that used to take place
around the Washington, DC area.
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在华盛顿特区周边
举行的活动很相似。
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But this event was unique.
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但是,这次活动很特殊。
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ISS stands for Intelligence
Support Systems,
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ISS 代表“情报支持系统”,
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and the people who were there
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而参会人员
都来自研发用以监视
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were from companies
that built technologies to spy
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on private communications.
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私人通信的技术公司。
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In other words, these were
sort of wire-tappers for hire.
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换而言之,他们都是
受雇的窃听人员。
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And the reason they were there
was that less than a year earlier,
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他们聚集在此的原因是,
不到一年前,
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the 9/11 terrorist attacks
on New York and Washington
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发生在纽约和华盛顿的
9/11 恐怖袭击
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had spurred the Congress
to press through legislation
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促使国会通过了
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known as the Patriot Act.
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《爱国者法案》的立法。
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This gave the government
broad new authorities
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该法案给与了政府
更宽泛的权力
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to monitor communications.
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来监控通信。
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Emails, internet activity, phone calls,
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电子邮件、网上活动、电话通话、
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even financial transactions.
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甚至是金融交易。
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This created an instant demand for data.
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这就产生了对数据的即时需求。
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And in the true American
entrepreneurial spirit,
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出于真正的美国创业精神,
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an industry rose up
to help collect this data.
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一个帮助收集数据的产业应运而生。
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But back in 2002,
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但是,在 2002 年,
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this was still a pretty modest affair.
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这仍然只是一件
相当低调的事情。
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Only about 10 percent
of the world's population
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世界上只有大约 10% 的人口
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was even online using the internet.
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在使用互联网。
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So most of what was being collected
were simple emails and phone calls
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所以收集到的大部分数据
只是简单的电子邮件
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over landlines and cell phones.
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和通过座机或手机
进行的电话通话。
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But over the next few years,
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但是在接下来的几年里,
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the way that we communicate
began to change rapidly.
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我们的交流方式
发生了急速变化。
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There was the introduction
of Skype, Facebook
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出现了 Skype、Facebook,
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and then, crucially, the iPhone,
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之后是至关重要的 iPhone。
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and within a few years,
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在几年之间,
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billions of us were walking around
with little computers in our pockets
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数十亿人口袋里都装着
一部小型电脑,四处走动。
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that do everything
from monitor our exercise habits
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这些设备可以做任何事情,
从监控我们的运动习惯
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to help us find romantic partners.
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到帮助我们找到恋爱对象。
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And suddenly, you didn't necessarily need
the advanced capability
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突然间,你不再需要
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of the National Security Agency
or big telecoms
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国家安全局的先进能力
或者大型的电信业
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to monitor everyone's communication.
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来监控每个人的通信交流。
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In some cases,
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在某些情况下,
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all you needed was access
to that device in their pockets.
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你所需要的只是接触
他们口袋里的那个设备。
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And that gave birth to an entirely
new type of industry.
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这就诞生了一个全新的产业。
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You know, not many companies
can build missiles or aircraft,
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要知道,不是所有的公司
都能够建造导弹或飞机,
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but it doesn't take a lot of capital
to create software
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但不需要很多资金就可以发明
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that can hack into someone's smartphone.
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用来非法入侵他人
智能手机的软件。
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Computer hackers
have been around for years,
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电脑黑客已经存在很多年了,
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but now their skills could be used
to build technologies
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但现在他们的技能
可以被利用来打造
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that were in high demand
by law enforcement
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对执法和情报机构
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and intelligence agencies.
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都有很高需求的技术。
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And soon, dozens
and even hundreds of companies
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很快,几十个甚至上百个公司
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were getting into this
wire-tappers' market.
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纷纷开始进入窃听装置市场。
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And that little conference in Virginia,
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而那个在弗吉尼亚
召开的小型会议
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it grew and soon became known
as the Wiretappers' Ball.
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很快发展成了众所周知的
“窃听者舞会”。
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Well, not much was known
about the Wiretappers' Ball
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当然在早期,
人们对窃听者舞会
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in those early years,
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知之甚少,
04:49
because the conferences
were closed to everyone
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因为会议并不对公司
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except the companies
and their government customers.
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和政府客户之外的人开放。
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But journalists did begin to see
and hear reports
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但是记者们的确
开始注意到关于
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of companies getting
into this private spy market.
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这些公司进入了
私人间谍市场,
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Spooky entrepreneurs
going around the world,
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“幽灵企业家们”在世界各地
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doing deals,
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与专制政权
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often with authoritarian regimes.
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进行交易的报道。
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And it was, from the start,
a really loosely regulated market.
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从一开始,这就是
一个监管松散的市场。
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Some countries do require permission
to sell these technologies abroad,
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一些国家向国外出售
这些技术确实需要许可。
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but rarely with the type of scrutiny
that is given to traditional arms.
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但是,很少对其采取
用于传统武器的审查规格。
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So for example, the Italian-based
company Hacking Team
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比如,据报道,总部位于
意大利的“黑客团队”
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reportedly sold its technology
to authoritarian regimes
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将其技术卖给了位于
埃及和哈萨克斯坦的
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in Egypt and Kazakhstan.
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独裁政权。
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The Israeli-based company NSO Group
has reportedly sold its technology
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报道称驻以色列的
NSO 集团把技术卖给了
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to the regime in Saudi Arabia,
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沙特阿拉伯政权。
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which has been accused of harassing,
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该政权被指控骚扰,
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and even, in one case,
killing one of its political opponents.
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甚至在一起事件中
杀害了它的政治对手。
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And we do think of weapons
as things that kill people.
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我们视武器为杀人之物。
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But in the information age,
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但是在信息时代,
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some of the most powerful weapons
are things that can track and identify us.
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其中一些最强有力的武器就是那些可以
对我们进行追踪和身份识别的东西。
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This is something that the Pentagon
and CIA have recognized for years,
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五角大楼和中央情报局在多年前
就对此有了充分的了解,
05:51
and they've tried to build technologies
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并且已经在打造可以
在全球范围内对人、
05:52
that can track people,
suspected terrorists, around the globe.
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对恐怖嫌疑分子进行追踪的技术。
05:56
The Pentagon has invested
in something called smart dust,
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五角大楼投资了某个
被称为“智能微尘”的东西,
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little microsensors
the size of specs of dust
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这是一种很小的微传感器,
大小规格如同尘土,
06:02
that you could scatter on people
without them knowing it,
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可以被抛撒在人身上
而不被发现,
06:05
and then use it to track their location.
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并在此后用来追踪
他们的所在位置。
06:07
The Pentagon, through
its venture capital firm,
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通过它的风险投资公司,
五角大楼
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has invested in a beauty products company
once featured in "Oprah Magazine"
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对一家曾被奥普拉杂志报道过的
美容产品公司经行了投资。
06:14
to build a device that could
surreptitiously collect DNA
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这家公司制造了一种装置,
06:17
just by swiping across the skin.
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仅仅通过滑过皮肤,
就可以偷偷地收集 DNA。
06:20
But something remarkable has happened
over the past decade.
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但是在过去的几十年来,
发生了一些引人注目的事情。
06:23
In many cases, what the private
marketplace has been able to do
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在许多情况下,私人市场
所能够做的事情
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has far outstripped what the Pentagon
or CIA even thought was possible.
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已经远远超过了五角大楼或
中央情报局对可能性的认知。
06:30
Back in 2008,
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回到 2008 年,
06:31
the Pentagon had a secretive database
of DNA from terrorists.
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五角大楼有一个秘密的
恐怖分子的 DNA 数据库。
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It had about 80,000 samples.
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它拥有约 8 万个样本。
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Well, the private company AncestryDNA
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而私人企业 AncestryDNA
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today has samples
from over 15 million people.
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如今拥有超过
1500 万人的样本。
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23andMe, the second-largest
genealogical database,
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23andMe 是第二大谱系数据库,
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has samples from over 10 million people.
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拥有超过 1000 万人的样本。
06:50
So now, maybe you don't need
these James Bond-worthy techniques
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所以现在,你也许不需要
詹姆斯·邦德才有权使用的技术
06:54
of collecting DNA
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来收集 DNA,
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if we're willingly handing it over
to private companies
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前提是你愿意
把它交付给私人公司,
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and even paying for the honor of doing it.
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并且为此事付出
荣誉的代价。
07:01
Well, what could you do
with a sample of someone's DNA?
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那么,你能用人类的
DNA 样品做些什么呢?
07:05
In the United States and China,
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在美国和中国,
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researchers are working
on using DNA samples
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研究人员正在开展利用 DNA 样本
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to build images of people's faces.
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来构建人脸图像的研究。
07:11
So if you pair DNA
with facial recognition technology,
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如果你将 DNA 与
人脸识别技术相比对的话,
07:15
you have the basis of a really
powerful surveillance system
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你就为一个非常强大的
监控系统奠定了基础。
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that could be used to track individuals
or entire ethnic groups.
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它可以被用来追踪
个人或整个种族。
07:22
And if you think that sounds
a little bit paranoid,
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如果你认为这个听起来
有些偏执的话,
07:24
keep in mind that the Pentagon
last year sent out a memo
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那么要记住,去年五角大楼
将一份备忘录发给了
07:27
to all of its service members,
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所有的在役人员,
07:29
warning them precisely not to use
those commercial DNA kits
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正是在警告他们不要使用
那些商业 DNA 试剂盒,
07:32
over concerns that information
could be used to track them
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因为担心信息会被用来对他们
07:35
or their family members.
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或他们的家人进行追踪。
07:37
And yet, even with the Pentagon
raising concerns about this technology,
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但是,即使五角大楼
提高了对这一技术的担忧,
07:41
almost nothing has been done
to reign in this market.
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却几乎没有采取任何行动
来管理这一市场。
07:44
One American company, Clearview AI,
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一家叫 Clearview AI 的美国公司
07:47
has been collecting billions
of images of people's faces
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已经从互联网上收集了
07:49
from across the internet,
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数十亿的人脸图像,
07:51
like those pictures you post on Instagram
of you and your friends and family,
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比如那些发到 Instagram 上的
你和朋友与家人的照片。
07:55
and then selling its facial
recognition services
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此后,他们的
人脸识别服务会被卖给
07:57
to US government
and law-enforcement agencies.
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美国政府或者执法机关。
08:00
And even if you think
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即使你认为
08:01
that's a perfectly acceptable
application of this technology,
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这类对该技术的应用方式
是完全可以接受的,
08:04
there's nothing to stop them
from selling to private individuals,
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但是没有什么可以阻止
他们把它出售给个人、
08:08
corporations or even foreign governments.
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公司,甚至是外国政府。
08:11
And that's exactly
what some companies are doing.
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而这正是一些公司
正在从事的事情。
08:13
That Wiretappers' Ball
that started in northern Virginia?
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那个在弗吉尼亚发起的
“窃听者舞会”后来怎样了呢?
08:17
Today, it's held in multiple cities
around the globe.
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如今,它在全球范围内
多个城市中举行,
08:20
Thousands of people now attend
the ISS trainings and conferences.
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有数千人参加
ISS 的培训和会议。
08:25
And more of the companies showing up
are coming from the Middle East and China.
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其中大多的公司
来自中东和中国。
08:28
The spy bazaar has gone global.
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间谍市场已走向全球。
08:31
And at arms shows now around the world,
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在全球各地的军展上,
08:33
you'll see companies displaying
facial recognition technology
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你都可以见到展示人脸识别技术
08:36
and phone hacking software,
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和电话窃听软件的公司,
08:38
displaying right next
to traditional arms manufacturers
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就在展示传统的坦克
08:41
with tanks and missiles.
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和导弹的武器制造商旁边。
08:42
And walking around these arms shows,
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在这些军展中闲逛,
08:44
it's pretty easy to go down
dystopian rabbit holes,
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人们很容易进入
反乌托邦的兔子洞,
08:47
thinking about future
surveillance technology
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想象未来的监控技术
08:49
that will track our every move.
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会监视我们的一举一动。
08:51
And I remember one
Pentagon adviser telling me
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我记得一位五角大楼顾问
曾告诉过我,
08:53
that what the military really needed
were space-based satellites
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军方真正需要的是天基卫星。
08:56
that could track people anywhere on earth
based just on their DNA.
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这种卫星可以仅根据 DNA
就能跟踪地球上任何地方的人。
09:00
It's enough to make you invest
in tinfoil hats.
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这足以让你决定投资锡纸帽子
(保护自己不受政府和外星人监视)。
09:03
But the truth is,
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事实上,
09:04
we don't know what sort
of technology the future will bring.
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我们并不知道未来
会出现什么样的技术。
09:07
But we know that today,
in the absence of regulation,
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但是我们知道现如今,
在没有法规监管的情况下,
09:10
this marketplace is already exploding.
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这个市场已经呈爆炸式增长。
09:13
And in fact, one of those companies
accused of selling surveillance technology
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事实上,其中一家公司
已经被指控出售监控技术
09:16
to authoritarian regimes,
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给专制政权。
09:18
today, it's offering to help track
those infected with COVID-19.
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今天,它可以帮助追踪
那些感染了 COVID-19 的人。
09:23
And of course, technology does offer
the tantalizing promise
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当然,技术确实提供了
通过追踪接触者
09:26
of helping control a pandemic
through contact tracing.
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来控制流行性疾病的诱人的前景。
09:29
But it also opens up another door,
to privatized mass surveillance.
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但它也打开了另一扇通向
大规模私人监控的大门。
09:33
So what do we do
about this private spy bazaar?
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那我们该如何处理
这个私人监控市场呢?
09:37
We can hide, go offline,
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我们可以躲起来、避免上网、
09:38
get off social media,
ditch our smartphones,
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退出社交媒体、丢掉智能手机,
09:41
go live in a cave,
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当个原始人,
09:43
but the truth is, we're not trained
to be professional spies,
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但事实是,我们并没有
受训成专业的间谍,
09:46
we can't live under false identities
or with no identities.
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我们无法在用虚假身份
或没有身份的情况下生活。
09:49
And even real spies are having a hard time
staying below the radar, these days.
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如今,即使真正的间谍
也很难不被发现。
09:53
It doesn't matter how many
passports Jason Bourne has
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如果杰森·伯恩(电影《谍影重重》男主角)的
脸或 DNA在某人的数据库中。
09:56
if his face or DNA
is in someone's database.
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那么他有多少本护照
就无关紧要了。
09:59
But if even governments have lost control
of the tools of spying,
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但如果连政府都失去了
对间谍工具的控制,
10:02
is there anything we can do about it?
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我们还能做什么呢?
10:04
One argument I've heard
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我听过的一个说法是
10:06
is that even if the US
were to restrict companies
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即使美国限制企业
10:08
from selling this sort
of technology abroad,
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向海外销售这类技术,
10:10
companies based in China
might simply step in.
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总部设在中国的公司
仍可能会直接介入。
10:13
But we regulate the arms trade today,
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但是,即使我们的措施不完善,
10:15
even if we do it imperfectly.
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我们今天仍在规范武器贸易。
10:18
And in fact, there was a multilateral
proposal several years ago
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事实上,几年前
就有一个多边提议,
10:21
to do just that,
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要求取得
10:22
to require export licenses
for surveillance software.
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监视软件的出口许可证。
10:26
The United States
was among those countries
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而美国是同意这些
10:28
that agreed to these
voluntary regulations,
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自愿规定的国家之一。
10:30
but back in Washington,
this proposal has simply languished.
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但在华盛顿,这一提议遭到了冷遇。
10:33
We have an administration
that would rather sell more weapons abroad
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我们的政府宁愿在
限制更少的情况下
10:37
with fewer restrictions,
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向海外出售更多武器,
10:38
including to some of those countries
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包括那些被指控滥用
10:40
accused of abusing
surveillance technology.
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监控技术的国家。
10:42
I think to move forward,
we would need to revive that proposal,
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我认为,为了向前推进,
我们需要重新提出这一建议,
10:45
but even go one step further.
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甚至更进一步。
10:47
We need to fundamentally change
how we think of surveillance technology
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我们需要从根本上改变
我们对监控技术的看法
10:51
and define these tools as weapons.
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并将这些工具定义为武器。
10:53
This would allow government
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这将允许政府
10:55
to regulate and control
their sale and export
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用控制传统武器,
10:57
the way that they control
traditional arms,
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即飞机和导弹的方式
去管制它们的销售和出口。
11:00
advanced aircraft and missiles.
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11:03
But that means recognizing
that technology that tracks who we are,
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但这意味着要认识到,
这种可以跟踪我们是谁、
11:06
what we do, what we say,
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我们做了什么、我们说了什么,
11:08
and even in some cases, what we think,
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甚至在某些情况下,
我们在想什么的技术,
11:10
is a form of advanced weaponry.
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实际上是一种先进的武器。
11:12
And these weapons
are growing too powerful,
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这些武器过于强大,
11:14
available to the highest bidder,
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而且出价最高者就可获得,
11:16
and according to the whims
of the spy bazaar.
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全凭间谍市场的奇思妙想。
11:19
Thank you.
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谢谢。
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