Why museums are returning cultural treasures | Chip Colwell

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翻译人员: Wanna Shi 校对人员: Amber Lee
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A confession:
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首先,我要坦白:
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I am an archaeologist and a museum curator,
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我是一位考古学家,也是一位博物馆馆长,
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but a paradoxical one.
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但我是一个矛盾体。
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For my museum, I collect things,
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我所在的博物馆不仅收藏东西,
00:24
but I also return things back to where they came from.
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也会将藏品物归原主。
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I love museums because they're social and educational,
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我之所以喜欢博物馆 , 是因为它具有社会价值和教育意义,
00:33
but I'm most drawn to them because of the magic of objects:
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但博物馆最吸引我的 是各件极具魅力的藏品:
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a one-million-year-old hand axe,
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一把一百万年“高龄”的手斧,
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a totem pole, an impressionist painting
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一根图腾柱,一幅印象派画作,
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all take us beyond our own imaginations.
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都超乎我们的想象。
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In museums, we pause to muse, to gaze upon our human empire of things
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人们会在博物馆展品前驻足、欣赏,
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in meditation and wonder.
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陷入沉思,惊叹连连。
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I understand why US museums alone
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我知晓为什么仅仅美国的博物馆,
00:59
host more than 850 million visits each year.
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每年接待的访客数量就超过了8.5亿人次。
01:05
Yet, in recent years, museums have become a battleground.
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然而,博物馆近几年却沦为了战场。
01:09
Communities around the world don't want to see their culture
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全球各地的人们均不希望 到自己并无控制权的
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in distant institutions which they have no control over.
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遥远的他乡博物馆去看 本属于自己祖国的文物。
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They want to see their cultural treasures
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人们希望本国文化瑰宝
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repatriated, returned to their places of origin.
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能回到故土。
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Greece seeks the return of the Parthenon Marbles,
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希腊希望帕特农神庙大理石雕塑能回归,
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a collection of classical sculptures held by the British Museum.
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这些雕塑现存于大英博物馆内。
01:31
Egypt demands antiquities from Germany.
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埃及要求德国归还文物。
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New Zealand's Maori want to see returned
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新西兰的毛利人希望
各地博物馆归还带有纹身的祖先头颅。
01:38
ancestral tattooed heads from museums everywhere.
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01:43
Yet these claims pale in comparison to those made by Native Americans.
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然而,这些索求与美洲印第安人的索求 相比可以说是小巫见大巫。
01:48
Already, US museums have returned more than one million artifacts
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美国各个博物馆已经归还了 他们一百多万件手工艺品
01:52
and 50,000 sets of Native American skeletons.
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和5万具美洲印第安人骨骸。
01:58
To illustrate what's at stake, let's start with the War Gods.
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为了说明其中的利害关系 , 我们先来说说战神。
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This is a wood carving
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这是新墨西哥州
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made by members of the Zuni tribe in New Mexico.
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祖尼人刻的木雕。
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In the 1880s, anthropologists began to collect them
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19世纪80年代,人类学家开始收集这种木雕,
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as evidence of American Indian religion.
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用来证明美洲印第安人的宗教信仰。
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They came to be seen as beautiful,
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人们认为这些木雕非常精美,
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the precursor to the stark sculptures of Picasso and Paul Klee,
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毕加索和保罗 · 克利的雕塑也受其影响,
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helping to usher in the modern art movement.
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战神木雕推动了现代艺术运动的发展。
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From one viewpoint, the museum did exactly as it's supposed to
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从某个角度而言,博物馆收集战神木雕
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with the War God.
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正是其职责所在。
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It helped introduce a little-known art form
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博物馆将这种鲜为人知的艺术形式
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for the world to appreciate.
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介绍给世人了解和欣赏。
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But from another point of view,
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但从另一个角度而言,
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the museum had committed a terrible crime of cultural violence.
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博物馆犯下了严重的罪行:文化暴力。
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For Zunis, the War God is not a piece of art,
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对于祖尼人而言,战神木雕并非艺术品,
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it is not even a thing.
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甚至都不算是一件物品。
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It is a being.
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它有生命。
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For Zunis, every year,
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每年,祖尼牧师都会
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priests ritually carve new War Gods,
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按仪式雕刻新的战神,
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the Ahayu:da,
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Ahayu:Da,
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breathing life into them in a long ceremony.
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在漫长隆重的祭典上,为其注入生命的气息。
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They are placed on sacred shrines
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祖尼人将战神木雕放置在神庙,
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where they live to protect the Zuni people
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祈求它们保佑自己的族人,
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and keep the universe in balance.
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并维护宇宙的平衡。
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No one can own or sell a War God.
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任何人都不能占有或者贩卖战神。
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They belong only to the earth.
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战神只属于大地母亲。
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And so Zunis want them back from museums
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所以祖尼人想从博物馆把战神木雕要回来,
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so they can go to their shrine homes
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放回自己的神庙,
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to fulfill their spiritual purpose.
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履行自己的精神使命。
03:32
What is a curator to do?
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博物馆馆长要怎么做呢?
03:35
I believe that the War Gods should be returned.
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我认为应该归还战神。
03:40
This might be a startling answer.
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这个答案或许让人觉得不可思议。
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After all, my conclusion contradicts the refrain
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毕竟,我的答案与全球大部分
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of the world's most famous archaeologist:
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知名考古学家的观点相左:
03:48
"That belongs in a museum!"
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“战神属于博物馆!”
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(Laughter)
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(大笑)
03:52
is what Indiana Jones said, not just to drive movie plots,
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这是电影《夺宝奇兵》的男主角 印地安纳・琼斯说的,
03:56
but to drive home the unquestionable good of museums for society.
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他说这话可不单单是为了推动剧情发展 , 更是为了全社会的利益。
04:03
I did not come to my view easily.
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当然,我也并非轻易得出了自己的答案。
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I grew up in Tucson, Arizona,
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我在亚利桑那州的图森市长大,
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and fell in love with the Sonoran Desert's past.
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从小就喜欢索诺拉沙漠的历史。
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I was amazed that beneath the city's bland strip malls
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使我惊奇的是,在图森一条条商业街的下面
埋藏着12000年的历史故事,等着人类去探索。
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was 12,000 years of history just waiting to be discovered.
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When I was 16 years old, I started taking archaeology classes
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我16岁那年,开始上考古学课,
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and going out on digs.
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也会外出进行考古发掘。
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A high school teacher of mine even helped me set up my own laboratory
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我的一位高中老师甚至帮我 建了属于我个人的实验室,
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to study animal bones.
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以便我研究动物骨骼。
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But in college,
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但上大学时,
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I came to learn that my future career had a dark history.
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我发现我日后的职业生涯 还涉及了一段黑暗的历史。
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Starting in the 1860s,
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自19世纪60年代以来,
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Native American skeletons became a tool for science,
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美洲印第安人骨骸就成为了科学工具,
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collected in the thousands
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人们收集成千上万的骨骸
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to prove new theories of social and racial hierarchies.
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来证明新的社会和种族阶级理论。
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Native American human remains were plundered from graves,
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有些人强行把美洲印第安人的 骸骨从坟墓里挖出来,
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even taken fresh from battlefields.
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甚至还从战场收集尸骸。
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When archaeologists came across white graves,
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当考古学家挖到白人坟墓时,
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the skeleton was often quickly reburied,
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一般会尽快把骨骸埋回去,
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while Native bones were deposited as specimens on museum shelves.
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而挖到美洲印第安人的骨骸时, 却会做成标本放到博物馆展示柜里。
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In the wake of war, stolen land, boarding schools,
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战争过后,家园故土被侵占, 学校成为寄宿制,
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laws banning religion,
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宗教被法律禁止,
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anthropologists collected sacred objects
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人类学家收集各种神圣物件,
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in the belief that Native peoples were on the cusp of extinction.
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认为美洲印第安人即将灭绝。
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You can call it racism or colonialism, but the labels don't matter
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你们可以称之为种族主义或殖民主义 , 贴任何标签都无所谓,
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as much as the fact that over the last century,
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重要的是上世纪发生的事情,
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Native American rights and culture were taken from them.
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美洲印第安人的权利被剥夺,文化被侵犯。
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In 1990, after years of Native protests,
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1990年,在多年的本土抗议之后,
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the US government, through the US Congress,
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美国政府通过美国国会,
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finally passed a law that allowed Native Americans to reclaim
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终于通过了一项法律 允许美洲印第安人
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cultural items, sacred objects and human remains from museums.
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从博物馆取回文物,圣物和祖先遗骸。
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Many archaeologists were panicked.
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考古学家纷纷表示震惊。
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For scientists,
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对于科学家而言,
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it can be hard to fully grasp how a piece of wood can be a living god
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可能很难理解一块木头 怎么就变成有生命的神了,
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or how spirits surround bones.
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亦或神灵如何守护遗骸。
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And they knew that modern science, especially with DNA,
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而科学家知道,现代科学,尤其是DNA,
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can provide luminous insights into the past.
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能有助于洞悉过去。
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As the anthropologist Frank Norwick declared,
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人类学家弗兰克 · 诺维克曾说过,
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"We are doing important work that benefits all of mankind.
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“我们手头在做的事情 对全人类而言意义非凡。
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We are not returning anything to anyone."
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我们绝不会把任何东西还给任何人。”
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As a college student, all of this was an enigma
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对于大学生而言,这一切都是谜,
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that was hard to decipher.
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难以解读。
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Why did Native Americans want their heritage back
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为什么美洲印第安人想把文化遗产
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from the very places preserving it?
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从保存文化遗产的地方拿回来呢?
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And how could scientists spend their entire lives
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科学家怎么能穷其一生
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studying dead Indians
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研究死去的美洲印第安人,
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but seem to care so little about living ones?
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却不怎么关注活生生的美洲印第安人?
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I graduated but wasn't sure what to do next,
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我虽然从大学毕业了, 却不知道之后要做什么,
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so I traveled.
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于是我就出去旅行了。
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One day, in South Africa,
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有一天,我到了南非,
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I visited Nelson Mandela's former prison cell on Robben Island.
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去了罗本岛上关押过 纳尔逊 · 曼德拉的监狱。
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I had an epiphany.
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我恍然大悟。
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Here was a man who helped a country bridge vast divides
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这里关过的可是曼德拉啊,
他致力于帮助国家消除分歧,寻求和解。
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to seek, however imperfectly, reconciliation.
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I'm no Mandela, but I ask myself:
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虽然我不是曼德拉,但也不禁扪心自问:
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Could I, too, plant seeds of hope in the ruins of the past?
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我是否也能同他一样, 在曾经的废墟之上播种希望?
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In 2007, I was hired as a curator
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2007年,我出任
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at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.
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丹佛自然科学博物馆馆长。
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Our team agreed that unlike many other institutions,
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我们的团队达成了共识,和其他机构不同,
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we needed to proactively confront the legacy of museum collecting.
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我们要主动归还馆藏文物。
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We started with the skeletons in our closet,
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我们先从储藏室里的遗骸入手,
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100 of them.
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共有100具。
月复一月,年复一年, 我们与几十个部落取得了联系,
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After months and then years, we met with dozens of tribes
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to figure out how to get these remains home.
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想办法将这些遗骸送回部落。
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And this is hard work.
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这项工作十分艰难,
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It involves negotiating who will receive the remains,
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我们要协商谁来接收这些遗骸,
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how to respectfully transfer them,
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如何转移这些遗骸,才能显示尊重,
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where will they go.
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要把这些遗骸送到哪里去。
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Native American leaders become undertakers,
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美洲印第安人部落领袖承办了殡葬仪式,
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planning funerals for dead relatives they had never wanted unearthed.
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为那些被强行挖出来的逝去的亲人置办葬礼。
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A decade later, the Denver Museum and our Native partners
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十年后 ,丹佛自然科学博物馆和美洲印第安人
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have reburied nearly all of the human remains in the collection.
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差不多把馆藏的人类遗骸都重新埋葬了。
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We have returned hundreds of sacred objects.
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我们已经归还了数百件圣物。
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But I've come to see that these battles are endless.
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但我发现,这些战争无休无止。
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Repatriation is now a permanent feature of the museum world.
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归还文物如今成了博物馆的固定工作内容。
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Hundreds of tribes are waiting their turn.
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数百个部落等着博物馆归还文物。
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There are always more museums with more stuff.
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博物馆越来越多, 需要归还的文物更是数不胜数。
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Every catalogued War God in an American public museum
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美国公共博物馆里每一个登记在册的战神
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has now been returned -- 106, so far --
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都已经归还给了祖尼部落 , 截至目前一共归还了106个。
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but there are more beyond the reach of US law,
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但是还有很多的战神并不在 美国法律的管辖范围之内,
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in private collections and outside our borders.
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比如私人收藏的,和美国领土之外的。
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In 2014, I had the chance to travel with a respected religious leader
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2014年,我有幸与一位 受人敬重的宗教领袖一同出行,
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from the Zuni tribe named Octavius Seowtewa
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他名叫奥塔维斯 · 西欧特瓦 (Octavius Seowtewa) ,来自祖尼部落,
09:00
to visit five museums in Europe with War Gods.
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我们访问了欧洲五家收藏了战神的博物馆。
09:03
At the Ethnological Museum of Berlin,
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在柏林民族学博物馆,
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we saw a War God with a history of dubious care.
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我们发现其对战神的保存能力令人生疑。
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An overly enthusiastic curator had added chicken feathers to it.
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这所博物馆的馆长对战神怀着满腔热忱, 甚至还把鸡毛放到了战神上。
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Its necklace had once been stolen.
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战神的项链被偷过。
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At the Musée du quai Branly in Paris,
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在巴黎的凯布朗利博物馆,
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an official told us that the War God there is now state property
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一位管理人员称那里的战神现在属于国有财产,
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with no provisions for repatriation.
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没有归还的规定。
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He insisted that the War God no longer served Zunis
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他坚称战神不再为祖尼人服务,
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but museum visitors.
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而是在博物馆供游客观赏。
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He said, "We give all of the objects to the world."
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他说:“我们把所有的展品呈现给全世界。”
09:35
At the British Museum,
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在大英博物馆,
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we were warned that the Zuni case would establish a dangerous precedent
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则有人警告称,把战神归还给 祖尼人会开创危险的先例,
09:40
for bigger disputes,
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会引起更大的争端。
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such as the Parthenon Marbles, claimed by Greece.
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比如说,希腊人会索回 帕特农神庙大理石雕塑。
09:46
After visiting the five museums,
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访问了这五家博物馆之后,
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Octavius returned home to his people empty-handed.
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奥塔维斯空手而归。
09:54
He later told me,
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后来,他告诉我,
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"It hurts my heart to see the Ahayu:da so far away.
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“看到战神散落在远方,我非常心疼。
09:58
They all belong together.
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这些战神都应该在一起。
10:01
It's like a family member that's missing from a family dinner.
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它们好比家庭成员在家庭聚餐中缺席了。
10:06
When one is gone, their strength is broken."
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缺少了一个,它们的凝聚力就被破坏了。”
10:10
I wish that my colleagues in Europe and beyond
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我希望欧洲及其他地区的同仁们
10:13
could see that the War Gods do not represent the end of museums
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能够明白,归还战神并不会 对博物馆产生负面影响,
10:17
but the chance for a new beginning.
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而是代表一个新的开端。
10:20
When you walk the halls of a museum,
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当你参观博物馆的时候,
10:23
you're likely just seeing about one percent
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你看到的展品
很可能只占全部馆藏的1%左右。
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of the total collections.
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The rest is in storage.
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剩下的全在储藏室放着。
10:29
Even after returning 500 cultural items and skeletons,
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即使是在归还了500件文物和遗骸后,
10:33
my museum still retains 99.999 percent of its total collections.
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我的博物馆还有99.999%馆藏。
10:39
Though we no longer have War Gods,
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虽然我们博物馆没有了战神,
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we have Zuni traditional pottery,
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但是我们有传统祖尼陶器,
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jewelry, tools, clothing and arts.
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珠宝、工具、衣物及艺术品。
10:48
And even more precious than these objects
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还有比这些文物更珍贵的,
10:51
are the relationships that we formed with Native Americans
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那便是我们在归还文物的过程中
10:54
through the process of repatriation.
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与美洲印第安人建立的关系。
10:58
Now, we can ask Zunis to share their culture with us.
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现在,我们可以请祖尼人 与我们一同分享祖尼文化。
11:04
Not long ago, I had the chance to visit the returned War Gods.
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不久前,我有幸见到了归还的战神。
11:09
A shrine sits up high atop a mesa overlooking beautiful Zuni homeland.
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神庙建在一座平顶山上, 俯瞰美丽的祖尼家园。
11:16
The shrine is enclosed by a roofless stone building
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神庙由一些石屋围起来,没有屋顶。
11:20
threaded at the top with barbed wire
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石屋上面设有带刺铁丝网,
11:23
to ensure that they're not stolen again.
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确保战神不会再次被盗。
11:26
And there they are, inside,
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神庙里共有
11:28
the Ahayu:da,
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106尊战神,
11:30
106 War Gods amid offerings of turquoise, cornmeal, shell,
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它们的周围摆满了祭品: 绿松石、玉米粉、贝壳,
11:35
even T-shirts ...
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甚至还有T恤衫……
11:38
a modern gift to ancient beings.
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这是献给古代生灵的现代礼物。
11:41
And standing there,
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站在那里,
11:43
I got a glimpse at the War Gods' true purpose in the world.
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我突然理解了战神存在的真正意义。
11:47
And it occurred to me then
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我明白了,
11:49
that we do not get to choose the histories that we inherit.
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我们不能选择我们能够继承的历史。
11:54
Museum curators today did not pillage ancient graves
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当代博物馆馆长并没有掠夺古代坟墓,
11:57
or steal spiritual objects,
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没有偷盗圣物,
11:59
but we can accept responsibility for correcting past mistakes.
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但是我们应该承担责任,纠正前人的错误。
12:04
We can help restore dignity,
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我们可以帮助美洲印第安人,
12:06
hope and humanity to Native Americans,
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恢复尊严,重获希望,推崇人道,
12:09
the very people who were once the voiceless objects of our curiosity.
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因为我们的好奇,他们曾被迫保持沉默,
12:14
And this doesn't even require us to fully understand others' beliefs,
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我们并不需要完全理解他人的信仰,
12:19
only that we respect them.
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只需要去尊重他们的信仰。
12:22
Museums are temples to things past.
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博物馆收藏历史文物。
12:26
Now they must also become places for living cultures.
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现在,博物馆也要收藏当代文化作品。
12:32
As I turned to walk away from the shrine,
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走出神庙的时候,
12:34
I drank in the warm summer air,
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我尽情享受着温暖的夏日阳光,
12:37
and I watched an eagle turn lazy circles high above.
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我看到一只鹰在高空中缓缓盘旋。
12:41
I thought of the Zunis,
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我想到了祖尼人,
12:42
whose offerings ensure that their culture is not dead and gone
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各种各样的祭品证明了他们的文化并未消逝,
12:47
but alive and well,
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而是依旧鲜活,
12:49
and I could think of no better place for the War Gods to be.
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我相信,这就是战神最好的归宿。
12:54
Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
12:55
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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