Frank Gehry: From 1990, defending a vision for architecture

翻译人员: Shida Du 校对人员: Zhu Jie

I'm going to go right into the slides.

我直接开始放幻灯片好了

And all I'm going to try and prove to you with these slides

我通过这些幻灯所要证明的就是

is that I do just very straight stuff.

我做的事都是很直接明白的（盖里以其复杂扭曲的建筑闻名）

And my ideas are --

我的想法

in my head, anyway -- they're very logical

至少在我脑子里的，都是很有逻辑性

and relate to what's going on and problem solving for clients.

都是与现实相关，为顾客解决问题的

I either convince clients at the end that I solve their problems,

要么是我说服顾客我最终帮他们解决了问题

or I really do solve their problems,

要么是我真的帮他们解决了问题

because usually they seem to like it.

因为他们通常看上去挺满意

Let me go right into the slides.

来看看幻灯片

Can you turn off the light? Down.

能帮灯关掉吗？

I like to be in the dark.

我喜欢待在黑暗中

I don't want you to see what I'm doing up here.

我可不想让你们看到我在这儿做什么

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Anyway, I did this house in Santa Monica,

好了，我在圣莫妮卡建了这个房子

and it got a lot of notoriety.

后来变得臭名昭著

In fact, it appeared in a porno comic book,

事实上，它后来出现在了一本色情漫画里

which is the slide on the right.

正是右边的幻灯片

(Laughter)

笑声

This is in Venice.

这是在威尼斯

I just show it because I want you to know

我展示这个是想让你们知道

I'm concerned about context.

我对周围环境是有考虑的

On the left-hand side,

在左边的幻灯片上

I had the context of those little houses,

是由这些小型建筑组成的城市背景

and I tried to build a building that fit into that context.

而我试图建造一个适合这个背景的建筑物

When people take pictures of these buildings out of that context

当人们在这个场景的之外拍这些建筑物时

they look really weird,

它们看起来非常古怪

and my premise is that they make a lot more sense

我的理论是它们更适合于

when they're photographed or seen in that space.

从那个空间的内部来欣赏和拍摄

And then, once I deal with the context,

一旦我搞定了周围的环境

I then try to make a place that's comfortable and private and fairly serene,

我就要开始创造一个舒适，私密和宁静的空间，

as I hope you'll find that slide on the right.

正如右边的幻灯所显示的。

And then I did a law school for Loyola in downtown L.A.

接下来是我为Loyola大学在洛杉矶市中心设计的法学院

I was concerned about making a place for the study of law.

我关注的是如何为法律学习设计合适的空间

And we continue to work with this client.

我们现在也在继续与这个客户合作

The building on the right at the top is now under construction.

在右上方的那个建筑现在正在建造

The garage on the right -- the gray structure -- will be torn down,

右边那个车库--灰色结构--最终会被扯掉

finally, and several small classrooms will be placed

最后，一些小教室

along this avenue that we've created, this campus.

会分布在我们设计的这条街道上，就是这个校园

And it all related to the clients and the students

这些都与客户和学生的意见相关

from the very first meeting saying they felt denied a place.

他们第一次见面就说他们感到空间被剥夺了

They wanted a sense of place.

他们渴望对空间的感知

And so the whole idea here was to create that kind of space

所以我们全部的想法就是创造那样一种空间感

in downtown, in a neighborhood that was difficult to fit into.

在市中心这样一个难以协调的环境里

And it was my theory, or my point of view,

我的理论，或者说观点是

that one didn't upstage the neighborhood --

不与周围环境抢风头

one made accommodations.

而要适应环境

I tried to be inclusive, to include the buildings in the neighborhood,

我试着去包容，把周围的建筑都容纳在内

whether they were buildings I liked or not.

不管我喜不喜欢那些建筑

In the '60s I started working with paper furniture

在60年代，我开始设计纸质家具

and made a bunch of stuff that was very successful in Bloomingdale's.

我制作的一些玩意儿在Bloomingdale's 卖得非常好

We even made flooring, walls and everything, out of cardboard.

我们甚至用硬纸板制作地板，墙面和其它东西

And the success of it threw me for a loop.

家具的成功让我大吃一惊

I couldn't deal with the success of furniture --

我难以接受这样的成功

I wasn't secure enough as an architect --

这让作为建筑师的我感到没有安全感

and so I closed it all up and made furniture that nobody would like.

所以我干脆罢手，开始制造没人会喜欢的家具

(Laughter)

（笑声）

So, nobody would like this.

所以，没有人会喜欢这个

And it was in this, preliminary to these pieces of furniture,

就是这样，在这些家具之前

that Ricky and I worked on furniture by the slice.

Ricky和我做的“切片家具”

And after we failed, I just kept failing.

在我们失败后，我又屡战屡败

(Laughter)

笑声

The piece on the left --

左边的那个家具

and that ultimately led to the piece on the right --

最终演变成为右边的那个

happened when the kid that was working on this

当时有个帮我们做事的孩子

took one of those long strings of stuff and folded it up

他把一个长条堆叠到一起

to put it in the wastebasket.

要扔到垃圾箱里

And I put a piece of tape around it,

我用胶带把四周粘了一圈

as you see there, and realized you could sit on it,

如你所见，我意识到那是可以坐的

and it had a lot of resilience and strength and so on.

而且它又有弹性又结实

So, it was an accidental discovery.

所以，这是一个偶然的发现

I got into fish.

我也对鱼有过兴趣

(Laughter)

笑声

I mean, the story I tell is that I got mad at postmodernism -- at po-mo --

我想说是，我对后现代主义极为恼火

and said that fish were 500 million years earlier than man,

我说，鱼比人类早了5亿年

and if you're going to go back, we might as well go back to the beginning.

如果你想追根溯源，那就干脆回到最初

And so I started making these funny things.

所以我开始制作这些搞笑的东西

And they started to have a life of their own and got bigger --

结果它们逐渐演化， 越搞越大

as the one glass at the Walker.

就象Walker艺术中心里的那个玻璃鱼雕塑

And then, I sliced off the head and the tail and everything

然后我把它的头尾之类的全部切掉

and tried to translate what I was learning

试图转化我在鱼身上学到的

about the form of the fish and the movement.

关于形态和运动的知识

And a lot of my architectural ideas that came from it --

以及由此产生的许多建筑理念

accidental, again --

又一个偶然事件 --

it was an intuitive kind of thing, and I just kept going with it,

这就是所谓的直觉，我也跟着直觉走

and made this proposal for a building, which was only a proposal.

我提交了关于一个建筑的方案，只是一个方案

I did this building in Japan.

我在日本设计了这座建筑

I was taken out to dinner after the contract

在签约后有人带我出去吃饭

for this little restaurant was signed.

我们刚刚和一个小餐馆签了合同

And I love sake and Kobe and all that stuff.

我喜欢日本清酒和神户牛肉那些东西

And after I got -- I was really drunk --

在我醉了之后 -- 我喝得烂醉 --

I was asked to do some sketches on napkins.

有人让我在餐巾纸上画草图

(Laughter)

笑声

And I made some sketches on napkins --

于是我就在餐巾纸上画了一些草图

little boxes and Morandi-like things that I used to do.

我常画的盒状物体和Morandi风格的东西

And the client said, "Why no fish?"

客户就问：“为什么不画鱼？”

And so I made a drawing with a fish, and I left Japan.

所以我就画了条鱼，然后离开了日本

Three weeks later, I received a complete set of drawings

3个星期之后，我收到了一套完整的图纸

saying we'd won the competition.

说“我们赢得了竞标”

(Laughter)

笑声

Now, it's hard to do. It's hard to translate a fish form,

现在难题就来了。鱼的形状是很难转化

because they're so beautiful -- perfect --

因为他们太漂亮--太完美了---

into a building or object like this.

难于在建筑或类似的物体中表现出来的

And Oldenburg, who I work with a little once in a while,

Oldenburg，偶尔和我合作的一个同事

told me I couldn't do it, and so that made it even more exciting.

告诉我那是不可行的，于是这事就更让我激动了

But he was right -- I couldn't do the tail.

不过他是对的--我不知道怎么处理尾巴

I started to get the head OK, but the tail I couldn't do.

我一开始把头做得不错，但是尾巴我就不知道怎么办了

It was pretty hard.

确实是个难题

The thing on the right is a snake form, a ziggurat.

右边的那个是个蛇状物体，一个金字塔

And I put them together, and you walk between them.

我把他们放在一起，人可以在中间走动

It was a dialog with the context again.

这又是和背景的一种对话

Now, if you saw a picture of this

如果你看到这幅照片

as it was published in Architectural Record --

刊登在《建筑记录》上的这幅

they didn't show the context, so you would think,

它们没有显示背景，所以你会觉得

"God, what a pushy guy this is."

“天啊，这家伙真会出风头。”

But a friend of mine spent four hours wandering around here

但是我的一个朋友在那儿转了四个小时

looking for this restaurant.

寻找那个饭店

Couldn't find it.

还是没有找到

So ...

所以（暗示饭店与环境融合得还不错）

(Laughter)

笑声

As for craft and technology and all those things

至于工艺和技术之类

that you've all been talking about, I was thrown for a complete loop.

你们都在谈论的那些东西，着实让我大吃一惊

This was built in six months.

这个东西在六个月内就建成了

The way we sent drawings to Japan:

我们把草图送给客户的方法是 --

we used the magic computer in Michigan that does carved models,

我们使用密歇根制作雕塑模型的神奇的计算机

and we used to make foam models, which that thing scanned.

以前我们制作一些泡沫模型，再用它来扫描

We made the drawings of the fish and the scales.

我们画了鱼和鱼鳞的草图

And when I got there, everything was perfect --

我们到那儿的时候，一切都很顺利

except the tail.

除了尾巴

So, I decided to cut off the head and the tail.

所以我决定去掉头和尾巴

And I made the object on the left for my show at the Walker.

我做了左边这个东西，放到我在Walker 艺术中心的展览上

And it's one of the nicest pieces I've ever made, I think.

我认为这是我做过的最漂亮的一件作品之一

And then Jay Chiat, a friend and client,

然后，Jay Chiat，我的一个朋友兼客户

asked me to do his headquarters building in L.A.

邀请我去设计他在洛杉矶总部的大楼

For reasons we don't want to talk about, it got delayed.

由于一些我不想说的原因，这件事拖延了

Toxic waste, I guess, is the key clue to that one.

有毒废料，我猜，应该是主要原因

And so we built a temporary building -- I'm getting good at temporary --

所以我们建造了一个临时建筑--我越来越擅长临时的东西

and we put a conference room in that's a fish.

在鱼肚子里放了一个会议室

And, finally, Jay dragged me to my hometown, Toronto, Canada.

最后Jay把我拽到我自己的故乡，加拿大多伦多

And there is a story -- it's a real story -- about my grandmother

这儿有个故事--真实的故事--关于我的祖母

buying a carp on Thursday, bringing it home,

有个星期四，她买了条鲤鱼带回家

putting it in the bathtub when I was a kid.

把它放到浴缸里，我还是个孩子

I played with it in the evening.

我晚上和鱼玩耍

When I went to sleep, the next day it wasn't there.

然后睡觉，第二天醒来的时候鱼已经不见了

And the next night, we had gefilte fish.

到了第三天晚上，我们吃了鱼丸子

(Laughter)

笑声

And so I set up this interior for Jay's offices

这是我为jay的办公室做的内部装修

and I made a pedestal for a sculpture.

又给雕像做了个基座

And he didn't buy a sculpture, so I made one.

他没有买雕塑，所以我就做了一个

I went around Toronto and found a bathtub like my grandmother's,

我在多伦多找到了一个跟我祖母家一样的浴缸

and I put the fish in.

然后把这鱼放了进去

It was a joke.

这是个笑话

(Laughter)

笑声

I play with funny people like [Claes] Oldenburg.

我和Oldenburg这样风趣的家伙一起玩

We've been friends for a long time.

我们是老朋友了

And we've started to work on things.

我们一起合作做些事情

A few years ago, we did a performance piece in Venice, Italy,

几年前，我们在意大利威尼斯搞了一场行为艺术

called "Il Corso del Coltello" -- the Swiss Army knife.

叫“Il Corso del Coltello”--瑞士军刀

And most of the imagery is --

大部分的形象是

(Laughter)

笑声

Claes', but those two little boys are my sons,

Claes，但那两个小孩是我的儿子

and they were Claes' assistants in the play.

在演出里他们是Claes的助手

He was the Swiss Army knife.

他就是瑞士军刀

He was a souvenir salesman who always wanted to be a painter,

他是个卖纪念品的商人，却一心想当个画家

and I was Frankie P. Toronto.

我则是Frankie P. Toronto

P for Palladio.

P代表 Palladio

Dressed up like the AT&T building by Claes --

打扮起来像Cleas设计的AT&T大楼

(Laughter)

笑声

with a fish hat.

戴一个渔夫帽

The highlight of the performance was at the end.

演出的亮点在最后

This beautiful object, the Swiss Army knife,

这个漂亮的东西，瑞士军刀

which I get credit for participating in.

我也因为参与建造而获得好评

And I can tell you -- it's totally an Oldenburg.

我可以告诉你--这全是Oldenburg搞的

I had nothing to do with it.

跟我没有任何关系

The only thing I did was, I made it possible for them

我唯一做的就是，

to turn those blades so you could sail this thing in the canal,

我让刀片可以转向，使它能在运河里航行

because I love sailing.

我爱开船

(Laughter)

笑声

We made it into a sailing craft.

我们把它做成水上工艺品

I've been known to mess with things like chain link fencing.

大家知道我运用过铁丝网之类的材料

I do it because it's a curious thing in the culture,

我选这个是因为文化上的好奇

when things are made in such great quantities,

当一件东西如此大量的生产出来

absorbed in such great quantities,

如此大量的被运用

and there's so much denial about them.

又有如此多的抗拒

People hate it.

人们恨铁丝网

And I'm fascinated with that, which, like the paper furniture --

我着迷于这个现象，像纸质家具一样--

it's one of those materials.

铁丝网就是这样一种材料

And I'm always drawn to that.

我经常被其吸引

And so I did a lot of dirty things with chain link,

所以我用链条做了很多坏事

which nobody will forgive me for.

坏到没人会原谅我

But Claes made homage to it in the Loyola Law School.

但是Claes 允许把它用在Loyola律师学校上

And that chain link is really expensive.

那链条很贵

It's in perspective and everything.

这合情合理也是需要的全部

And then we did a camp together for children with cancer.

然后我们一起设计了一个给癌症儿童的学校

And you can see, we started making a building together.

你可以看到，我们开始一起设计

Of course, the milk can is his.

当然，牛奶罐是他搞的

But we were trying to collide our ideas,

但是我们的想法互相碰撞

to put objects next to each other.

把建筑挨在一起

Like a Morandi -- like the little bottles -- composing them like a still life.

像Morandi--像一张静物画一样排列这些瓶瓶罐罐

And it seemed to work as a way to put he and I together.

看上去我们能这样一起合作

Then Jay Chiat asked me to do this building

然后Jay Chiat 要我设计这个建筑

on this funny lot in Venice, and I started with this three-piece thing,

在维纳斯的这个搞笑的地方，我开始设计这三个东西

and you entered in the middle.

你进到中间

And Jay asked me what I was going to do with the piece in the middle.

Jay问我我准备怎么处理中间的建筑

And he pushed that.

他逼了我一下

And one day I had a -- oh, well, the other way.

有一天我有了个点子-好吧-另一个点子

I had the binoculars from Claes, and I put them there,

我把Cleas那儿的双筒望远镜放在那里

and I could never get rid of them after that.

以后我就再也拿不走他们了

Oldenburg made the binoculars incredible

Oldenburg让这个望远镜难以置信

when he sent me the first model of the real proposal.

当他给我这个方案的第一个模型时

It made my building look sick.

这让我的建筑看着很衰

And it was this interaction between

就是这个相互促进的过程

that kind of, up-the-ante stuff that became pretty interesting.

使得整个事情更加有趣

It led to the building on the left.

成就了左边的这个建筑

And I still think the Time magazine picture will be of the binoculars, you know,

我仍然认为时代杂志的照片会是这个望远镜

leaving out the -- what the hell.

省去--“这是什么鬼东西”

I use a lot of metal in my work,

我在工作中用到大量金属

and I have a hard time connecting with the craft.

连接工艺品让我大费苦心

The whole thing about my house,

关于我的房子

the whole use of rough carpentry and everything,

使用的粗糙的木器，还有各种玩意

was the frustration with the crafts available.

让我对现有工艺感到沮丧

I said, "If I can't get the craft that I want,

我说：“我不能得到我想要的工艺

I'll use the craft I can get."

我要用我能得到的”

There were plenty of models for that,

在这方面有很多楷模

in Rauschenberg and Jasper Johns, and many artists

Rauschenberg 和 Jasper Johns，很多艺术家

who were making beautiful art and sculpture with junk materials.

用废旧材料制作了美丽的艺术品和雕塑

I went into the metal because it was a way of building a building

我深究金属是因为它是用来

that was a sculpture.

把建筑建造成雕塑的材料

And it was all of one material,

它是一种统一的材料

and the metal could go on the roof as well as the walls.

金属可以做屋顶也可以做墙

The metalworkers, for the most part,

而金属工人，大部分时候

do ducts behind the ceilings and stuff.

在天花板后面做通风管道等等

I was given an opportunity to design an exhibit

我有个机会去设计一个展览

for the metalworkers' unions of America and Canada in Washington,

是给美加金属工人工会做的，在华盛顿

and I did it on the condition that they become my partners

我做这个是在这样的条件下：他们成为我未来的伙伴

in the future and help me with all future metal buildings, etc. etc.

并且帮助我做未来所有的金属建筑等等 ，等等

And it's working very well

这个手段效果不错，让这些手艺人

to have these people, these craftsmen, interested in it.

对用金属建造建筑感兴趣

I just tell the stories.

我讲这个故事

It's a way of connecting, at least, with some of those people

是一种沟通，至少是与一部分人

that are so important to the realization of architecture.

一部分对于实现建筑很重要的人的沟通

The metal continued into a building -- Herman Miller, in Sacramento.

金属继续用在建筑中-- Herman Miller，萨克拉门托

And it's just a complex of factory buildings.

这是一个厂房区

And Herman Miller has this philosophy of having a place --

Herman Miller 有这样一个选址的哲学

a people place.

一个有人的地点

I mean, it's kind of a trite thing to say,

这说起来很老套

but it is real that they wanted to have a central place

但是他们想要一个中心地段

where the cafeteria would be, where the people would come

有个有人气的自助餐厅

and where the people working would interact.

工作的人产生互动

So it's out in the middle of nowhere, and you approach it.

所以这个项目前不着村后不着店，你靠近一看

It's copper and galvanize.

是电镀铜

I used the galvanize and copper

我使用的电镀铜

in a very light gauge, so it would buckle.

规格很小，这样便于弯曲

I spent a lot of time undoing Richard Meier's aesthetic.

我花了很多时间颠覆 Richard Meier的审美观

Everybody's trying to get the panels perfect,

每个人都想把面板做的完美

and I always try to get them sloppy and fuzzy.

而我则试着把他们做得污浊和模糊

And they end up looking like stone.

结果看来像个石头

This is the central area.

这里就是中心区域

There's a ramp.

有一个斜坡

And that little dome in there is a building by Stanley Tigerman.

那个小的穹顶是由Stanley Tigerman设计的

Stanley was instrumental in my getting this job.

Stanley 帮我搞到了这份工作

And when I was awarded the contract I, at the very beginning,

在我得到工作的一开始

asked the client if they would let Stanley do a cameo piece with me.

我要求客户让Stanley跟我一起做这个地景

Because these were ideas that we were talking about,

因为这正是我们谈论的想法

building things next to each other, making --

设计相邻的建筑

it's all about [a] metaphor for a city, maybe.

也许这是对城市的一个比喻

And so Stanley did the little dome thing.

于是Stanley设计了这个小穹顶

And we did it over the phone and by fax.

我们通过电话和传真联系

He would send me a fax and show me something.

他给传真他的设计

He'd made a building with a dome and he had a little tower.

他做了一个有穹顶的建筑，还有一座小塔

I told him, "No, no, that's too ongepotchket.

我告诉他“不行不行，这太复杂了

I don't want the tower."

我不想要那座塔”

So he came back with a simpler building,

于是他把建筑改得更简单

but he put some funny details on it,

但是他设计了些搞笑的细节

and he moved it closer to my building.

并把他的建筑靠近了我的建筑

And so I decided to put him in a depression.

所以我决定给他点颜色瞧

I put him in a hole and made a kind of a hole that he sits in.

我设计了一个洞给他的建筑

And so then he put two bridges -- this all happened on the fax,

于是他设计了两座桥 -- 这都是在传真上发生的

going back and forth over a couple of weeks' period.

在几个星期的时间里改来改去

And he put these two bridges with pink guardrails on it.

于是他设计了两座有粉红色护栏的桥

And so then I put this big billboard behind it.

然后我把这个大招牌放在了后面

And I call it, "David and Goliath."

我给它命名为“David and Goliath"

And that's my cafeteria.

这张是我设计的餐厅

In Boston, we had that old building on the left.

左手边，是波士顿的老建筑

It was a very prominent building off the freeway,

这是高速公路下的一座著名的建筑

and we added a floor and cleaned it up and fixed it up

我们增建了一层楼，清理并修复它

and used the kind of -- I thought -- the language of the neighborhood,

并且运用了某种 -- 我当时认为 -- 与周围融合的建筑语言

which had these cornices, projecting cornices.

就是这些檐口，出挑的檐口

Mine got a little exuberant, but I used lead copper,

我的设计有点放肆，但我用了铅铜

which is a beautiful material, and it turns green in 100 years.

这种美丽的材料会在一百年里变绿

Instead of, like, copper in 10 or 15.

而不像纯铜，在10到15年里变色

We redid the side of the building

我们改建了建筑的这一面

and re-proportioned the windows so it sort of fit into the space.

重新设计了窗户尺寸以基本适应里面的空间

And it surprised both Boston and myself that we got it approved,

这个设计能通过审批让波士顿和我们自己都很吃惊

because they have very strict kind of design guideline,

因为波士顿的设计导则非常之严格

and they wouldn't normally think I would fit them.

而他们通常认为我的设计没法满足导则的要求

The detailing was very careful with the lead copper

我们在处理铅铜的细节上十分仔细

and making panels and fitting it tightly

制造面板，然后把他们紧密的

into the fabric of the existing building.

装配在现有建筑的结构上

In Barcelona, on Las Ramblas for some film festival,

在巴塞罗那的的兰布拉斯大道上

I did the Hollywood sign going and coming,

我为一个电影节设计了一个好莱坞标志“无处可逃”

made a building out of it, and they built it.

然后设计成了一个建筑，他们修建了这个建筑

I flew in one night and took this picture.

有天晚上我坐飞机过去照了这张照片

But they made it a third smaller than my model without telling me.

但是他们擅自把尺寸缩小到了我的模型的三分之一

And then more metal and some chain link in Santa Monica --

接下来还是金属和链条，这是在美国圣莫尼卡

a little shopping center.

一个小购物中心

And this is a laser laboratory at the University of Iowa,

这是爱荷华大学的一个激光实验室

in which the fish comes back as an abstraction in the back.

这个项目里再度出现了鱼的抽象形象，在建筑背后

It's the support labs, which, by some coincidence, required no windows.

这个供应实验室碰巧不需要开窗

And the shape fit perfectly.

鱼的形状吻合得天衣无缝

I just joined the points.

我只需要把几个点连起来

In the curved part there's all the mechanical equipment.

在曲线的部分是所有的机械设备

That solid wall behind it is a pipe chase -- a pipe canyon --

后面的实墙是一个管道槽 -- 管道峡谷

and so it was an opportunity that I seized,

所以我抓住了这个机会

because I didn't have to have any protruding ducts or vents or things in this form.

因为这个形式不需要任何突出的管子或者开口

It gave me an opportunity to make a sculpture out of it.

这给了我把它做成一个雕塑的机会

This is a small house somewhere.

这是一个小房子，在某个地方

They've been building it so long I don't remember where it is.

他们修了太久了我都忘了是在哪里

It's in the West Valley.

是在犹他州的西谷市

And we started with the stream

我们从溪流着手

and built the house along the stream -- dammed it up to make a lake.

沿着溪流修建房子 -- 修建堤坝来造湖

These are the models.

这是模型照片

The reality, with the lake --

事实是，有了这个湖

the workmanship is pretty bad.

建筑工艺其实很差

And it reminded me why I play defensively in things like my house.

这也提醒我为什么在类似房子这样的事上我很谨慎

When you have to do something really cheaply,

当你不得不用些便宜货

it's hard to get perfect corners and stuff.

你很难得到完美的转角之类的东西

That big metal thing is a passage, and in it is --

这个金属大家伙是条通道

you go downstairs into the living room and then down into the bedroom,

你从里面下到起居室再下到卧室

which is on the right.

就是右手边的图片

It's kind of like a whole built town.

有点像是个完整的小镇

I was asked to do a hospital for schizophrenic adolescents at Yale.

我被要求为耶鲁大学设计一座精神分裂青少年医院

I thought it was fitting for me to be doing that.

我觉得让我来做这个项目还挺合适的

This is a house next to a Philip Johnson house in Minnesota.

这个是在明尼苏达的菲利普约翰逊住宅旁的的房子

The owners had a dilemma -- they asked Philip to do it.

房主们有个矛盾 -- 他们让菲利普来做设计

He was too busy.

但是菲利普太忙了

He didn't recommend me, by the way.

顺便一说，他也没推荐我

(Laughter)

（笑）

We ended up having to make it a sculpture, because the dilemma was,

我们最终得把它做得很有雕塑感，因为房主们的矛盾是

how do you build a building that doesn't look like the language?

你要如何建造一栋看上去不像建筑的建筑？

Is it going to look like this beautiful estate is sub-divided?

否则这片美丽的庄园岂不是看上去像被建筑所分割？

Etc. etc.

诸如此类

You've got the idea.

你们懂的

And so we finally ended up making it.

所以最后我们把它设计成这样

These people are art collectors.

房主们是艺术收藏家

And we finally made it so it appears very sculptural

最后我们成功的让它

from the main house and all the windows are on the other side.

在主屋的方向显得十分雕塑化，所有的开窗都在侧面

And the building is very sculptural as you walk around it.

当你绕着建筑走时它显得十分雕塑化

It's made of metal and the brown stuff is Fin-Ply --

外墙是金属制成的，棕色的构件是胶合木

it's that formed lumber from Finland.

由自芬兰的木材加工而成

We used it at Loyola on the chapel, and it didn't work.

我们再Loyola大学的教堂用过，行不通

I keep trying to make it work.

所以我不停尝试

In this case we learned how to detail it.

在这个项目里我们明白了如何处理这种材料的细节

In Cleveland, there's Burnham Mall, on the left.

这是在克利夫兰，在左手边是Burnham购物中心

It's never been finished.

一直没有竣工

Going out to the lake, you can see all those new buildings we built.

知道湖边，你可以看到我们建的这些新建筑

And we had the opportunity to build a building on this site.

而我们有机会在这块场地上修建一个建筑

There's a railroad track.

在这里有条铁路

This is the city hall over here somewhere, and the courthouse.

这边某处是市政厅，而这边是法院

And the centerline of the mall goes out.

购物中心的中心线一直延伸出去

Burnham had designed a railroad station that was never built,

Burnham设计的火车站没能建成

and so we followed.

但是我们延续了这个思路

Sohio is on the axis here,

Sohio公司的大楼在这条轴线上

and we followed the axis, and they're two kind of goalposts.

我们延续了这条轴线，这个建筑有点像球门

And this is our building,

而这个就是我们设计的建筑

which is a corporate headquarters for an insurance company.

一家保险公司的公司总部

We collaborated with Oldenburg and put the newspaper on top, folded.

我们与Oldenburg合作，把折叠的报纸放在楼顶上

The health club is fastened to the garage

健身俱乐部通过一个C形的坡道相连

with a C-clamp, for Cleveland.

象征Cleveland

(Laughter)

（笑）

You drive down.

你沿着坡道往下开

So it's about a 10-story C-clamp.

所以这是一座10层楼的C形坡道

And all this stuff at the bottom is a museum,

底部的空间都是博物馆

and an idea for a very fancy automobile entry.

以及一个华丽的车行入口

This owner has a pet peeve about bad automobile entries.

业主对于糟糕的车行入口意见很大

And this would be a hotel.

而这是一座酒店

So, the centerline of this thing -- we'd preserve it,

所以我们保留了原来设想的中轴线

and it would start to work with the scale of the new buildings

而这些新建筑的尺度可以让它开始发挥作用

by Pelli and Kohn Pederson Fox, etc., that are underway.

修建中的建筑有Pelli，Kohn Pederson Fox等事务所设计设计的

It's hard to do high-rise.

做高层可不容易

I feel much more comfortable down here.

在这个项目里我舒服多了

This is a piece of property in Brentwood.

这是在Brentwood的一块地

And a long time ago, about '82 or something, after my house --

这是很老的项目了，大概是82年的样子

I designed a house for myself

在我给自己设计的住宅之后设计的一座住宅

that would be a village of several pavilions around a courtyard --

由一个庭院和它周围的几个阁楼组成的村子

and the owner of this lot worked for me

这片土地的业主曾为我工作

and built that actual model on the left.

制作了左边的这个实物模型

And she came back,

后来她找到我

I guess wealthier or something -- something happened --

我猜是发财了还是怎么的

and asked me to design a house for her on this site.

然后她让我给这片地设计一座住宅

And following that basic idea of the village,

我们延续了村落的基本概念

we changed it as we got into it.

并在深入的过程中作了改变

I locked the house into the site by cutting the back end --

通过切削背（左）面的体量，我把整个建筑卡在场地里

here you see on the photographs of the site --

你在这张照片里看到的

slicing into it and putting all the bathrooms and dressing rooms

场地穿插进建筑里，然后把浴室和化妆间布置在里面

like a retaining wall, creating a lower level zone for the master bedroom,

起挡土墙的作用，在底层给主卧室创造了一个分区

which I designed like a kind of a barge,

设计得像艘货船

looking like a boat.

像艘船

And that's it, built.

就是这样，建成了

The dome was a request from the client.

穹顶是客户的要求

She wanted a dome somewhere in the house.

她要住宅里某处有个穹顶

She didn't care where.

她才不管在哪处

When you sleep in this bedroom, I hope --

如果你在这卧室里睡觉，我希望

I mean, I haven't slept in it yet.

我的意思是，我没在里面睡过

I've offered to marry her so I could sleep there,

我为了在那睡一觉向她提过亲

but she said I didn't have to do that.

但她说我不用这样

But when you're in that room,

但是当你在那个卧室里

you feel like you're on a kind of barge on some kind of lake.

你感觉多少有点像在一艘湖上的船里

And it's very private.

很私密的空间

The landscape is being built around to create a private garden.

周围布置了景观来营造一个私家花园

And then up above there's a garden on this side of the living room,

而在上面，起居室的这边有一个花园

and one on the other side.

还有一个在另一面

These aren't focused very well.

这幻灯焦距没对好

I don't know how to do it from here.

我不知道怎么解决

Focus the one on the right.

请注意右边的幻灯

It's up there.

在这

Left -- it's my right.

左边 -- 我的右手边

Anyway, you enter into a garden with a beautiful grove of trees.

好了，你进入一个有美丽树丛的花园

That's the living room.

这是起居室

Servants' quarters.

佣人的房间

A guest bedroom, which has this dome with marble on it.

一个客房，有大理石吊顶的穹顶

And then you enter into the living room and then so on.

然后你进入起居室，诸如此类

This is the bedroom.

这是卧室

You come down from this level along the stairway,

你从这层经由楼梯下来

and you enter the bedroom here, going into the lake.

然后你进入卧室，然后是湖

And the bed is back in this space,

而床在这个空间后面

with windows looking out onto the lake.

有向湖的窗子

These Stonehenge things were designed to give foreground

这些像石门一样的东西被设计成前景

and to create a greater depth in this shallow lot.

并在这个进深不大的场地里创造更好的进深感

The material is lead copper, like in the building in Boston.

用的材料是铅铜，和之前波士顿的建筑相似

And so it was an intent to make this small piece of land --

所以我们的意图是让这一小片土地

it's 100 by 250 -- into a kind of an estate by separating these areas

100英尺宽250英尺长，变成一个大庄园

and making the living room and dining room into this pavilion

方法就是分割区域

with a high space in it.

以及将卧室和餐厅放进空间较高的阁楼里

And this happened by accident that I got this right on axis

我无意地把开窗

with the dining room table.

与餐桌放在了一条轴线上

It looks like I got a Baldessari painting for free.

看出去像是我搞到了一幅免费的Baldessari油画

But the idea is, the windows are all placed

我的概念是，开窗的布置

so you see pieces of the house outside.

让你可以看到外面住宅的一部分

Eventually this will be screened -- these trees will come up --

最终形成框景 -- 树会长高

and it will be very private.

而形成一个很私密的空间

And you feel like you're in your own kind of village.

你觉得有点像在你自己的村落里

This is for Michael Eisner -- Disney.

这是给Michael Eisner设计的 -- 迪士尼

We're doing some work for him.

我们为他工作过

And this is in Anaheim, California, and it's a freeway building.

在加州的Anaheim，这是高速公路上的建筑

You go under this bridge at about 65 miles an hour,

你从这座桥下面以65英里的时速开过去

and there's another bridge here.

这里是另一座桥

And you're through this room in a split second,

你飞快的穿过这些房间

and the building will sort of reflect that.

而这个建筑反映这个运动

On the backside, it's much more humane -- entrance,

在建筑的背面就人性得多

dining hall, etc.

入口，餐厅，诸如此类

And then this thing here -- I'm hoping as you drive by you'll hear

而这个东西 -- 希望你开车经过能听到

the picket fence effect of the sound hitting it.

声音在这些构件上反射产生的栅栏效应

Kind of a fun thing to do.

有点意思

I'm doing a building in Switzerland, Basel,

这是我正在瑞士的巴塞尔做的项目

which is an office building for a furniture company.

一个家具公司的办公楼

And we struggled with the image.

我们为建筑形象很头疼

These are the early studies, but they have to sell furniture

这些是早期的一些尝试，问题是他们卖家具给普通人

to normal people, so if I did the building and it was too fancy,

所以如果我的建筑设计得太华丽

then people might say, "Well, the furniture looks OK in his thing,

人们会说，他们的家具在他们的房子里看上去还行

but no, it ain't going to look good in my normal building."

但在我的普通房子里看上去肯定不行

So we've made a kind of pragmatic slab in the second phase here,

于是在第二阶段建筑设计成朴实的板状

and we've taken the conference facilities and made a villa out of them

然后我们把会议场所设计成了一座别墅

so that the communal space is very sculptural and separate.

于是公共空间可以分隔开来做的很有雕塑感

And you're looking at it from the offices and you create a kind of

从办公室看过去

interaction between these pieces.

不同片段之间的互动被创造出来了

This is in Paris, along the Seine.

这是在巴黎，塞纳河边

Palais des Sports, the Gare de Lyon over here.

Palais des Sports场馆群和Gare de Lyon火车站在这边

The Minister of Finance -- the guy that moved from the Louvre -- goes in here.

参政部长 -- 从卢浮宫迁出来 -- 搬进了这里

There's a new library across the river.

河对面有一座新建的图书馆

And back in here, in this already treed park,

在这后面，已经经过绿化的公园里

we're doing a very dense building called the American Center,

我们设计了一座密度很高的美国中心

which has a theater, apartments, dance school, an art museum,

里面有一座剧场，公寓，舞蹈学校和一个艺术博物馆

restaurants and all kinds of -- it's a very dense program --

还有餐厅之类的 -- 总之密度很高

bookstores, etc.

书店，诸如此类

In a very tight, small --

用地很小，很紧张

this is the ground level.

这是地面层

And the French have this extraordinary way of screwing things up

法国人在搞砸事情上很有一套

by taking a beautiful site and cutting the corner off.

比如把这块漂亮的场地砍掉一角

They call it the plan coupe.

他们乘作平面切角

And I struggled with that thing --

这东西让我很挣扎

how to get around the corner.

如何回避这个角

These are the models for it.

这些为这个做的模型

I showed you the other model, the one --

我刚刚放的另一个模型，这个 --

this is the way I organized myself so I could make the drawing --

这是我自我整理来画出图纸的方法

so I understood the problem.

以便我了解问题所在

I was trying to get around this plan coupe -- how do you do it?

我试着避开这个切角 -- 怎么做呢

Apartments, etc.

公寓之类的

And these are the kind of study models we did.

这些是我做的研究模型

And the one on the left is pretty awful.

左边这个相当糟糕

You can see why I was ready to commit suicide when this one was built.

你可以发现为什么这个方案被建成时我想自杀了

But out of it came finally this resolution, where the elevator piece

但是从这个方案里终于出现了解决办法

worked frontally to this, parallel to this street,

电梯在前面，与街道平行

and also parallel to here.

同时和这边平行

And then this kind of twist, with this balcony and the skirt,

而这个曲面，设置了阳台和裙楼

kind of like a ballerina lifting her skirt to let you into the foyer.

像个芭蕾舞演员撩起她的裙子让我进到门厅里

The restaurants here -- the apartments and the theater, etc.

餐厅在这边 -- 公寓和剧场，诸如此类

So it would all be built in stone, in French limestone,

这些都会有石材建成，法国石灰石

except for this metal piece.

除了这一片采用金属

And it faces into a park.

而它向着公园一面

And the idea was to make this express the energy of this.

我的概念是由此来表现建筑的活力

On the side facing the street it's much more normal,

在向着街道的一边建筑要正常得多

except I slipped a few mansards down, so that coming on the point,

除了我把一些折屋顶移下来

these housing units made a gesture to the corner.

这些住宅单元对转角做出某种姿态

And this will be some kind of high-tech billboard.

而这边将会是某种高科技广告牌

If any of you guys have any ideas for it, please contact me.

如果你们任何人有设计它的点子

I don't know what to do.

请联系我，我不知道该怎么办

Jay Chiat is a glutton for punishment, and he hired me

Jay Chiat是个喜欢受罚的人，于是他雇佣了我

to do a house for him in the Hamptons.

给他设计这个在Hamptons的住宅

And it's got a fish.

这个设计也有条鱼

And I keep thinking, "This is going to be the last fish."

我总是告诉自己，这是最后一条鱼了

It's like a drug addict.

这有点像毒瘾

I say, "I'm not going to do it anymore -- I don't want to do it anymore --

我说我不会再做这个了 -- 我也不想再做了

I'm not going to do it."

我不做了

And then I do it.

然后我又做了

(Laughter)

（笑）

There it is.

就是这个

But it's the living room.

但是这个是起居室

And this piece here is --

这边这个是 --

I don't know what it is.

我不知道这是什么

I just added it so that we'd have enough money in the budget

我加上这个只是因为这样我们才有足够的预算

so we could take something out.

然后我就能去除某些东西

(Applause)

（鼓掌）

This is Euro Disney, and I've worked with all of the guys

这是欧洲迪士尼，我和之前做展示的所有人

that presented to you earlier.

都一起合作过

We've had a lot of fun working together.

我们一起做了很多有意思的工作

I think I'm from Mars for them, and they are for me,

我觉得对于他们我是火星人，对于我他们也是

but somehow we all manage to work together,

但是不知为什么我们可以在一起合作

and I think, productively.

而且很有效率，我觉得

So far.

目前为止

This is a shopping thing.

这是一个消费场所

You come into the Magic Kingdom

你进入魔法王国

and the hotel that Tony Baxter's group is doing out here.

Tony Baxter集团做的酒店在那

And then this is a kind of a shopping mall,

这是一个购物中心

with a rodeo and restaurants.

有一个骑术表演场和一些餐厅

And another restaurant.

这还有一个餐厅

What I did -- because of the Paris skies being quite dull,

我所做的 -- 因为巴黎的天空比较枯燥

I made a light grid that's perpendicular to the train station,

我设计了一个垂直于火车站的灯光网格

to the route of the train.

垂直于火车的路线

It looks like it's kind of been there,

看上去有点像它之前就在那儿了

and then crashed all these simpler forms into it.

然后闯入这些更简但的形体里

The light grid will have a light, be lit up at night and give a

这个光网会在晚上点亮

kind of light ceiling.

形成某种灯光屋顶

In Switzerland -- Germany, actually -- on the Rhine across from Basel,

在瑞士 -- 实际上是德国 -- 在巴塞尔对面的莱茵河

we did a furniture factory and a furniture museum.

我们设计了一个家具厂和一个家具博物馆

And I tried to -- there's a Nick Grimshaw building over here,

我尝试着 -- 这有座Nick Grimshaw设计的建筑

there's an Oldenburg sculpture over here --

还有一座Oldenburg的雕塑

I tried to make a relationship urbanistically.

我试着建立一种城市化的关系

And I don't gave good slides to show -- it's just been completed --

我没有很好的幻灯来展示 -- 这个项目刚完成 --

but this piece here is this building, and these pieces here and here.

但是这个建筑，以及这些片段

And as you pass by it's always part -- you see it as all of these pieces

当你从中穿过的时候 -- 你看到的这些片段

accrue and become part of an overall neighborhood.

仿佛自然生长然后成为整个周围环境的一部分

It's plaster and just zinc.

材料是石膏和锌板

And you wonder, if this is a museum,

你会好奇，如果这是个博物馆

what it's going to be like inside?

那内部会是什么样子

If it's going to be so busy and crazy that you wouldn't show anything,

如果这设计看上去这么喧哗疯狂你都不展示什么图片

and just wait.

稍等

I'm so cunning and clever -- I made it quiet and wonderful.

我是很狡猾又聪明的 -- 我把内部设计得很宁静美好

But on the outside it does scream out at you a bit.

从外部它是有点咄咄逼人

It's actually basically three square rooms

它实际基本上就是三个方形房间

with a couple of skylights and stuff.

以及一些天窗之类的

And from the building in the back, you see it as

从建筑背后，看上去

an iceberg floating by in the hills.

就像是山脉上漂浮的冰山

I know I'm over time.

我发现我超时了

See, that skylight goes down and becomes that one.

看，右边这个天窗洒下的光成了左边这张图片

So it's pretty quiet inside.

所以它的内部是很安静的

This is the Disney Hall -- the concert hall.

这是迪士尼音乐厅

It's a complicated project.

这个项目很复杂

It has a chamber hall.

有个会议厅

It's related to an existing Chandler Pavilion that was built

它回应了用爱和泪和关注

with a lot of love and tears and caring.

建成的Chandler Pavilion

And it's not a great building, but I approached it optimistically,

那不是一个太好的建筑，但是我以乐观的姿态去接近它

that we would make a compositional relationship between us

以营造一个我们之间的构成关系

that would strengthen both of us.

来强化我们彼此

And the plan of this -- it's a concert hall.

而平面上 -- 这是个音乐厅

This is the foyer, which is kind of a garden structure.

这是门厅，类似一个花园

There's commercial at the ground floor.

在地面层上设置了广告

These are offices, which, really, in the competition,

这是办公室，事实上在竞赛阶段

we didn't have to design.

我们真的不用设计

But finally, there's a hotel there.

最后，这里是一座酒店

These were the kind of relationships made to the Chandler,

这些都和Chandler的建筑构成某种关系

composing these elevations together and relating them

把他们的立面组成一种构成关系

to the buildings that existed -- to MOCA, etc.

并且和加州艺术博物馆之类的相互关联起来

The acoustician in the competition gave us criteria,

我们根据声学专家给我们列出标准

which led to this compartmentalized scheme,

设计了这个分割体量的方案

which we found out after the competition would not work at all.

赢得竞赛之后我们发现这个方案根本行不通

But everybody liked these forms and liked the space,

但是大家都喜欢这个形式和它的空间

and so that's one of the problems of a competition.

这就是竞赛的麻烦

You have to then try and get that back in some way.

你非得想办法让你的方案实现

And we studied many models.

我们做了很多研究模型

This was our original model.

这是我们最初的模型

These were the three buildings that were the ideal --

这是声学上比较理想的三个建筑

the Concertgebouw, Boston and Berlin.

阿姆斯特丹的Concertgebouw音乐厅，波士顿音乐厅和柏林音乐厅

Everybody liked the surround.

大家都喜欢里面的环绕音效

Actually, this is the smallest hall in size,

实际上这是尺度最小的一个音乐厅

and it has more seats than any of these

但是它设置的作为比其他几个都多

because it has double balconies.

因为它设置了双层看台

Our client doesn't want balconies, so --

我们的客户不喜欢看台

and when we met our new acoustician, he told us

而当我们和新的升学专家碰头时他告诉我

this was the right shape or this was the right shape.

这个形状很合适，那个形状很合适

And we tried many shapes, trying to get the energy

我们尝试了很多形状，想把最初方案的精神

of the original design within an acoustical, acceptable format.

通过一个声学上可以接受的形式来实现

We finally settled on a shape that was

最终我们决定了这个形状

the proportion of the Concertgebouw

采用Concertgebouw音乐厅的比例

with the sloping outside walls, which the acoustician said

设置倾斜的外墙，声学专家说这个至关重要

were crucial to this and later decided they weren't,

后来又说其实无关紧要

but now we have them.

但反正我们是做了

(Laughter)

（笑）

And our idea is to make the seating carriage very sculptural

我们的概念是把坐席的结构做得充满雕塑感

and out of wood and like a big boat sitting in this plaster room.

使用木质材料，就像停在石膏房间里的一艘大船

That's the idea.

这是我们的概念

And the corners would have skylights

然后在角落设置天窗

and these columns would be structural.

这些柱子是承重的

And the nice thing about introducing columns is they give you a

设置柱子的好处是，不管你坐在哪里

kind of sense of proscenium from wherever you sit,

他们都给你一种置身舞台的感觉

and create intimacy.

从而创造一种亲密感

Now, this is not a final design -- these are just on the way to being --

这个，这不是最终设计 -- 这还在不断修改中

and so I wouldn't take it literally, except the feeling of the space.

所以除了这个空间的感受，其他的具体情况都不那么重要

We studied the acoustics with laser stuff,

我们用一些激光设备研究了声学条件

and they bounce them off this and see where it all works.

他们反射激光来观察设计如何达到声学要求

But you get the sense of the hall in section.

但是你从剖面可以了解音乐厅的大致感受

Most halls come straight down into a proscenium.

大部分音乐厅就是一个起坡坐席放在舞台前面

In this case we're opening it back up

在这个设计里我们把整个舞台敞开

and getting skylights in the four corners.

在四角设置了天窗

And so it will be quite a different shape.

于是形成了一个很不同的形体

(Laughter)

（笑）

The original building, because it was frog-like,

最开始的设计，因为它有点像青蛙

fit nicely on the site and cranked itself well.

所以线条流畅，和场地契合得很好

When you get into a box, it's harder to do it -- and here we are,

当你把它放进一个方盒子，情况就更困难了 -- 如你所见

struggling with how to put the hotel in.

如何放置酒店让我们很挣扎

And this is a teapot I designed for Alessi.

这是我给Alessi酒店设计的茶壶

I just stuck it on there.

我直接把它粘在模型上

But this is how I do work. I do take pieces and bits and look at it

但是这就是我工作的方式，我选些片段

and struggle with it and cut it away.

把玩他们然后进行一些切削

And of course it's not going to look like that,

当然它最后不会像这个样子

but it is the crazy way I tend to work.

但是这就是我疯狂的工作方式

And then finally, in L.A. I was asked to do a sculpture

最后，这是在洛杉矶，我被邀请设计一个雕塑

at the foot of Interstate Bank Tower, the highest building in L.A.

是在洛杉矶最高的建筑Interstate Bank Tower下面

Larry Halprin is doing the stairs.

Larry Halprin设计了这些阶梯

And I was asked to do a fish, and so I did a snake.

他们让我设计一条鱼于是我设计了一条蛇

(Laughter)

（笑）

It's a public space, and I made it kind of a garden structure,

这是一个公共空间，我做了一个类似花园的建筑

and you can go in it.

你可以进去

It's a kiva, and Larry's putting some water in there,

这是个半地下会堂，Larry在这边设计了一些水体

and it works much better than a fish.

这个比一条鱼好用多了

In Barcelona I was asked to do a fish, and we're working on that,

在巴塞罗那也有人叫我设计一条鱼，我们正在设计中

at the foot of a Ritz-Carlton Tower being done by

这是在SOM设计的

Skidmore, Owings and Merrill.

Ritz_Carlton Tower下面

And the Ritz-Carlton Tower is being designed with exposed steel,

Ritz_Carlton Tower的设计采用了外露钢结构

non-fire proof, much like those old gas tanks.

没有防火涂层，很像老式的汽油管

And so we took the language of this exposed steel and used it,

所以我们采用了这个外露钢结构的建筑语言

perverted it, into the form of the fish, and created a kind of

然后颠覆它，把它转化成一条鱼

a 19th-century contraption that looks like, that will sit --

创造了这个有点像19世纪的机械玩意的东西，坐落在 --

this is the beach and the harbor out in front,

这是海岸，往前是港口

and this is really a shopping center with department stores.

这实际上是个设置了百货的购物中心

And we split these bridges.

我们把这些连桥打散

Originally, this was all solid with a hole in it.

最开始这是一个开洞的实体

We cut them loose and made several bridges and created a kind of

后来我们把它分割成多个连桥

a foreground for this hotel.

为酒店创造了某种前景

We showed this to the hotel people the other day,

我们前一阵把这个展示给酒店的人看

and they were terrified and said that nobody would come

他们都吓坏了，说因为这条鱼

to the Ritz-Carlton anymore, because of this fish.

不会再有人愿意来Ritz Carlton酒店了

(Laughter)

（笑）

And finally, I just threw these in -- Lou Danziger.

最后的最后，我把这个设计丢给了Lou Danziger

I didn't expect Lou Danziger to be here,

我不指望Lou Danziger会在这儿

but this is a building I did for him in 1964, I think.

但这是我在大概1964年的时候给他设计的建筑

A little studio -- and it's sadly for sale.

一个小工作室，遗憾的是这个建筑正被出售

Time goes on.

时过境迁

And this is my son working with me on a small fast-food thing.

这是我和我儿子做的快餐厅

He designed the robot as the cashier, and the head moves,

他设计了这个头可以动的机器人当做收银员

and I did the rest of it.

其他的是我做的

And the food wasn't as good as the stuff, and so it failed.

食物还不如这些东西，所以餐馆算是失败了

It should have been the other way around --

本应该是这些东西不如食物的

the food should have been good first.

首先必须是食物要好

It didn't work.

总之是不成

Thank you very much.

非常感谢