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Transcriber: Leslie Gauthier
Reviewer: Krystian Aparta
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I have a confession to make,
right off the bat.
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我马上要坦白一件事。
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I don't know what you were doing at 16,
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我不知道你们
16 岁时在做什么,
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but I'm a really big fan of "Harry Potter"
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但我是哈利波特的铁粉,
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and was waiting way too long
to receive my letter
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并且我一直在等着收到
00:25
inviting me to Hogwarts School
of Witchcraft and Wizardry --
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邀我去霍格沃茨魔法学校的信——
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I could have gone for sixth form.
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我本可以去读第六级的。
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I was also waiting
for an invitation to the Jedi Temple
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我也在等待去绝地圣殿的邀请,
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or a tap on the shoulder
to invite me to the X-Men.
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或被人拍一下我的肩膀,
邀请我加入 X 战警。
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I was that kid.
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我就是那样的孩子。
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When I was 16 years old, I got my wish.
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当我 16 岁时,我的愿望实现了。
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I was taken into a doctor's office
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我被带到医生办公室,
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and told that I am in fact
part of a group of people
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被告知说我其实属于
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who are still largely invisible
and misunderstood.
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很大程度上仍然
很隐秘并被误解的某类人。
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I am intersex.
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我是间性人。
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That's my superpower.
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这就是我的超能力。
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For many of you in this room,
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对这里的大多数人,
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it will be the first time
you've even heard the word "intersex."
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应该是第一次听到“间性”这个词。
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Intersex is anatomy.
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间性是解剖学术语。
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It refers to people
who were born with one or more
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它指那些生来拥有一种或多种
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of a variation of sex characteristics.
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性别特征变体的人。
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That's your genitals,
your hormones, your chromosomes
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你的生殖器、荷尔蒙、染色体,
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that fall outside of the traditional
conceptions of male and female bodies.
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它们不属于传统的
男性或女性的身体概念。
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In other words,
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也就是说,
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the most basic assumption
we've made about our species --
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我们对人类的最基本假定——
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what we're taught in schools
that sex is binary,
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我们在学校时
被告知性别是二元的,
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just male and female --
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只有男性和女性——
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is not correct.
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这个说法并不正确。
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Like most things in this world,
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就像世上大多其他事情,
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it is much more complicated than that.
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真相要复杂得多。
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Intersex people who fall
outside of this false sex binary
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错误的二元性别范畴之外的间性人
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have always existed,
throughout human history.
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在人类历史上一直存在。
02:02
Like the wizards of "Harry Potter,"
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就像《哈利波特》里的巫师,
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we are pretty much invisible.
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我们几乎是隐形的。
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Some of us don't even know
that we are intersex.
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我们有些人甚至不知道
自己是中间性人。
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Like the X-Men,
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就跟 X 战警一样,
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some of our traits are obvious at birth
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我们中有些人的生理特征
出生时就很明显,
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and others turn up around the time
when puberty is supposed to kick in.
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还有一些在青春期初期出现。
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When we find out we are intersex,
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当我们发现自己是间性人时,
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some of us believe
we are the only ones in the world.
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有些人会认为
自己是世上的唯一。
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Me, specifically, I have XY chromosomes,
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就我而言,我有 XY 染色体,
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which you may have understood
to be typically male.
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一般会理解为我是男性。
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I was also born with gonads
instead of ovaries.
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我也生来就有性腺,
而不是卵巢。
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Standing here on this stage
would have been my worst nightmare
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如果在五年前,
站在这个舞台上对我来说
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only five years ago.
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可能会是最糟糕的噩梦,
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It would have been impossible.
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甚至是完全不可能的。
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I use the metaphor of the superhuman,
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我用了超人来比喻我们,
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but really, we are just like you.
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但事实上,我们跟你们一样。
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Intersex people are thought to make up
to 1.7 percent of the population.
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间性人占总人口的 1.7%。
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That means more, depending
on where you are in the world,
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也就是有很多,
取决于你在哪里,
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but you get the picture.
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但是大家应该都有概念了。
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We are in front of you, getting coffee;
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我们就在你们面前买咖啡;
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we are sitting next to you on the train;
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我们在火车上,坐在你旁边;
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we are swiping you left and right
on dating apps --
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我们在约会软件上
将你左滑右滑——
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So why haven't you heard of us?
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那么,你们为什么没听说过我们?
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If we are so common, why don't you see us?
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如果我们如此平常,
为什么你们看不见我们?
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How has the world responded to us?
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世界对我们的态度如何?
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We often think of disciplines
like medicine and the law
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我们通常会觉得
医学或法律这样的领域
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as supposedly neutral --
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应该是中立的——
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immune to bias.
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对偏见免疫——
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The law is "reason free from passion."
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法律是“毫无激情的推理”。
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The doctors' Hippocratic oath states
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医生们的希波克拉底誓言声称:
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that "warmth, sympathy and understanding
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“温暖、同情和理解
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may outweigh the surgeon's knife
or the chemist's pill."
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可能远胜于外科医生的手术刀
或药剂师的药片。”
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In truth, these disciplines
that touch our lives are impressive,
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这些充斥在我们生活中的各种信条
很令人印象深刻,
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but they are filled with our prejudices.
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事实上,
它们却充满了我们的偏见。
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They are not immune,
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它们不是免疫的,
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just as we are not immune
to the effects of that prejudice,
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正如我们无法对那些偏见的影响
免疫一样,
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which can be devastating.
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这可能是灾难性的。
04:25
In medicine, intersex babies
who are born with ambiguous genitalia
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在医学上,
出生时生殖器不明确的间性婴儿
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are routinely operated on without consent,
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通常会在未经同意,
且本来无需医疗的情况下,
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without medical need,
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被不可逆转地
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irreversibly,
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进行手术,
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in order to make their healthy anatomy
appear more "normal."
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就是为了让他们健康的身体
看起来更“正常”。
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This is before they've even said
their first words,
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这发生在他们能开口说第一个字,
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indicated a sexuality
or a gender identity.
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能表明性取向和性别认同之前。
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Many people are never told the truth
about their intersex traits,
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很多人从没被告知
他们是间性人这个事实,
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and those who are are instructed,
often, not to tell anyone.
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而那些被告知的人,也被指导,
别去告诉任何人。
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Secrecy is enforced
and shame is a close shadow.
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保密是被强加的,
羞耻则如影随形。
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In the law,
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在法律上,
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intersex people fall
outside of categorization,
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间性人不在分类范围内,
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and more importantly, protection.
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更重要的是,也不被保护。
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This concerns the banal tasks --
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这包括那些平常琐事——
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if you can imagine the number
of forms you've filled out
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如果你能想象
在你要填写的那些表格上
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that you had to check "M" of "F" on --
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不得不勾选“男”或“女”——
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to lacking protection under any law,
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缺乏任何法律的保护,
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specifically, the Gender
Recognition or Equality Act.
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具体来说
就是性别承认或平等法案。
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And intersex people
cannot correct the sex classification
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间性人无法纠正
他们在出生时被给与的性别分类,
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they've been given at birth
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unless they declare they are transgender.
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除非他们宣称他们是跨性别者。
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After decades of activism,
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经过数十年的运动,
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these life-altering problems
are starting to be addressed.
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这些改变人生的问题开始被重视。
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So why does this matter
to those of you who aren't intersex,
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那这对于你们这些
性别特质没发生变体的非间性人,
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who don't have variations
of sex characteristics?
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为什么也很重要呢?
06:14
I imagine many people
in this audience have,
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我想在座的很多人
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in the privacy of their own bathrooms,
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在浴室里的时候,
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wondered ...
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都曾经好奇过…
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"Are my labia too long?"
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“我的阴唇太长吗?”
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"Are my testicles uneven?"
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“我的睾丸不一样吗?”
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"Is my penis too small?"
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“我的阴茎太小了吗?”
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"Is my vagina too wide or too shallow?"
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“我的阴道是太宽还是太窄?”
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Nothing that hurts or gets in the way,
just aesthetically:
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这些都无伤大雅,只关乎美观:
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"Are mine 'normal?'"
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“我的‘正常’吗?”
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I imagine that many people
in this audience have those small concerns
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我想在座很多人有过类似小担忧,
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but generally go about their lives
not thinking about it.
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但通常都不会
对日常生活造成太大的困扰。
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These variations in our bodies,
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我们间性人体内的变异,
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like the color of our eyes
or the size of our feet,
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就像眼睛不同的颜色
或者脚不同的大小,
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rarely affect our health, materially.
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也并不会对我们的健康
产生实质的影响。
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To put it another way,
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换句话说,
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to give you an idea
of the intersex experience,
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为了让你们体会间性人的感受,
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what if when you were an infant,
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可以假设你现在是个婴儿,
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your parents or your doctors
looked at your labia,
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你的父母或医生
看着你的阴唇、
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your penis, your testicles,
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你的阴茎、睾丸,
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and thought,
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在想,
07:19
"They're healthy, feeling,
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“它们很健康,功能完好,
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but they're not 'normal,'"
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但不‘正常’,”
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even before you knew
what you wanted to do with them,
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这甚至发生在你知道自己
要怎样处理它们之前,
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or you know, want to put them.
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或者说,
想要把它们放到哪里之前。
07:30
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:33
What if they went so far
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如果他们矫枉过正到
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as to assign you a different sex
based off these measurements ...
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基于这些量度就给你
分配了另一种性别…
07:45
And then they lied to you
about what they'd done?
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然后还针对这些所作所为撒谎呢?
07:50
What if these surgeries sterilized you?
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如果这些手术
让你绝育了怎么办?
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What if they resulted
in immense pain and scarring?
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如果它们导致了剧痛和疤痕呢?
08:02
What if you had to take medicine
for the rest of your life
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如果你余生必须吃药
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to replace the healthy
organs they took away,
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来补偿被切除的健康器官,
08:09
and you had to pay
for that medicine yourself?
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并且你得自己掏医药费呢?
08:13
And then every time you went
to a doctor's office for a cold,
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然后,每次你感冒去看医生时,
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you were questioned about your sex life,
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你的性生活,
08:22
your gender identity,
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你的性别身份,
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what your private parts looked like.
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你私处的样子都会被质疑。
08:27
And then more doctors
and medical students were invited
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然后更多的医生和
医学院学生被邀请来
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to add to these questions,
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问更多的问题,
08:33
ask you to drop your trousers
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要你脱掉裤子
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or submit to an unnecessary medical exam.
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或接受不必要的医学检查。
08:41
This is a picture of what is happening
to the intersex community --
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这是发生在间性人群体中的画面——
08:47
people like me, every day,
around the world.
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全球各地像我这样的人,
每天都要面对的画面。
我们的群体并不反对医药或手术。
08:53
Our community is not
antimedicine or antisurgery.
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08:58
We are for the right to make
decisions about our bodies
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我们是想要对自己的身体和生活
有决定权。
09:03
and our lives.
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09:05
The current approach to intersex people
stems from a now-debunked academic study
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目前研究间性人的方法
是源于 50 多年前某个人的
一项现已被揭穿的学术研究,
09:12
from a man who, over 50 years ago,
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09:14
believed that you could
raise a child in any gender
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当时的结论是,你可以通过
瞒着孩子更改他们的生殖器,
并且一次又一次强化这种性别
09:19
by changing their genitals,
never telling them
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09:22
and reinforcing that gender
over and over again.
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去把他们抚养成任何性别的人。
09:27
It also stems from referring to healthy
intersex variations as abnormal
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它也源于把健康的间性变体
称为异常
09:34
or disordered.
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或者失调。
09:36
This makes sense.
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这似乎也有道理。
09:38
If you refer to something as a disorder,
it suggests there's a fix.
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如果你把某个事情说成失调,
就意味着需要修正。
09:42
It also stems [from] the fear
and stigma of being intersex,
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它还源于对间性人的恐惧和污名,
09:47
from homophobia, transphobia, sexism
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源于对同性恋的憎恶、
变性恐惧症、性别歧视,
09:51
and ultimately, our colonial past.
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最终还源于我们的殖民历史。
09:56
I am not here to say that the categories
of men and women don't exist.
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我并不是说
男性和女性的分类不存在。
10:02
I'm saying, like most
things in this world,
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我是说,性别就像
这个世上很多其他事情一样,
10:05
it is more complicated than that.
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要复杂的多。
10:08
The world is complex,
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世界是复杂的,
10:10
and we can choose
to see that as beautiful,
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我们可以选择把复杂视为美好,
10:13
or we can choose to continue
to deny the existence of that complexity,
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或者我们可以选择
继续否定那种复杂性的存在,
10:19
push people into artificial, binary boxes,
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把人们推进虚假的、
二元的盒子里,
10:23
fix what isn't broken
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去修理没有坏的东西,
10:26
and restrict our own field of vision.
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并且去限制我们自己的视野。
10:30
One of the challenges
that intersex people face today
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当前,间性人面临的挑战之一
10:34
is making ourselves visible
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是让我们被看到,
10:38
and making ourselves safe
at the same time.
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同时让我们自己安全。
10:41
By that, I mean we are appealing
to the humanity of lawmakers
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也就是说,我们呼立法者的人道精神,
10:46
to make us safe
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让我们安全,
10:48
whilst putting ourselves
into the public eye,
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同时把我们自己
置于公众的视野中,
10:51
sharing our stories,
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分享我们的故事,
10:53
trying to build community
with people like us ...
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努力与像我们这样的人
共同建立社区……
10:57
Even when it isn't safe to do so.
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即便这样做并不安全。
11:02
For parents of intersex children
listening and watching,
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对那些正在收听和观看
这段演讲的间性人的父母,
11:06
for those in the audience
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对在座的
11:08
who may become the guardians
of intersex people,
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可能成为间性人的监护者的各位,
11:11
I want you to know I love my life,
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我想让你们知道,我爱我的生活,
11:16
but it has not be free of issue,
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但这并非完全没有困难,
11:18
especially in relation to being intersex.
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特别是对于间性人来说。
11:21
No life is free of issue.
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没有生活是没有难题的。
11:24
All coins have two sides.
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硬币均有双面。
11:27
On the one side,
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硬币的一面是,
11:29
I have been humiliated
in doctors' offices.
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我曾在医生的办公室被羞辱过。
11:34
I have stood in front of prospective
partners and felt afraid
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我曾在潜在的伴侣们面前
感到害怕,
11:39
and so not good enough.
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觉得自己不够好。
11:43
I have watched other women
pass me in the street
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我曾看着街上其他女士走过,
11:46
and imagine the ways
that they were more woman than me,
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想象她们如何比我更像女人,
11:51
more human than me.
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更像人类。
11:54
I have questioned whether I have
a place in this world.
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我怀疑过我是否在
这个世界上有立足之地。
12:00
On the other,
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硬币的另一面是,
12:01
I have been deeply loved
for everything that I am,
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我的一切也曾深深地被爱着,
12:08
in friendship and romantically.
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无论是在友情还是爱情中。
12:12
I have learned compassion and empathy
for a wider range of society.
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我学会了对广泛的社会群体
表达同情,怀有同理心。
12:18
I have taken the time to love my body
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我会花时间去爱自己的身体,
12:22
and not judge the bodies of others.
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并且不去评判别人的身体。
12:25
I have developed a strength and a hope
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我生出了一种力量和希望,
12:29
that would have been impossible
without this particular life.
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如果不是这种特殊的生活,
这些都是不可能的。
12:36
The instinct to protect children
is instinctive and it's admirable,
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保护孩子的本能
是天生的,也令人钦佩,
12:42
but the truth is that love, acceptance
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但事实上,爱、接纳,
12:47
and refusing to bathe that child in shame
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并且拒绝让孩子沉浸在耻辱中,
12:50
will protect them more than trying
to fix something that isn't broken.
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远比试图修复完好的东西
更加能够保护他们。
12:56
This is why it is in our interest
to protect intersex people
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这就是为何保护间性人,
让他们被人们看到
13:01
and make them visible.
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才符合我们的利益。
13:04
For as long as societies reinforce
one form of acceptable,
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只要社会强化一种形式的接受,
13:09
of "normal,"
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一种形式的“正常”,
13:11
everyone will face insecurity
for being different in any way.
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那么每个人都会因为在任何方面的
与众不同而面临不安全感。
13:18
Simply trying to erase
variation, difference,
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只是试图消除变体和差异,
13:24
builds shame.
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就会促成羞耻感。
13:28
Being intersex has not
materialized the powers
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作为间性人,我并没有实现
13:32
that I wished for as a teenager ...
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自己在少年时所憧憬的超能力…
13:35
beyond being able to see
where this false sex binary harms us all.
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除了看到这种虚假的性别二元化
对我们所有人的伤害之外。
13:41
It is my belief
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我相信,
13:44
that if intersex people can gain equality,
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如果间性人可以获得平等,
13:49
can be seen,
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能够被看见,
13:50
can be accepted
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能够被接受,
13:52
and can be loved,
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能够被爱,
13:54
then we all will.
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那么我们所有人都可以做到。
13:56
Thank you.
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谢谢。
13:57
(Applause and cheers)
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(鼓掌和欢呼)
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