What if we paid doctors to keep people healthy? | Matthias Müllenbeck

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翻译人员: Echo Sun 校对人员: Yolanda Zhang
00:12
It's 4am in the morning.
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时间是凌晨四点。
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I'm waking up in a Boston hotel room
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我在波士顿一间 酒店的客房中醒来,
00:18
and can only think of one thing:
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脑中只能想着一件事:
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tooth pain.
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牙痛。
00:24
One of my ceramic inlays fell off the evening before.
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前一晚,我的一个瓷镶体脱落了。
00:27
Five hours later, I'm sitting in a dentist's chair.
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五小时之后,我坐在牙科的椅子上。
00:31
But instead of having a repair of my inlay so that I can get rid of my pain,
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但牙医并没有修复我的瓷镶体, 好让我脱离牙痛之苦,
00:36
the dentist pitches me on the advantages of a titanium implant surgery.
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反而在跟我推销 钛植牙手术的优点。
00:42
Ever heard of that?
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有听过吗?
00:43
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:45
It essentially means to replace a damaged tooth
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基本上,就是要把一颗受损的牙齿
00:49
by an artificial one,
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换成一颗人工牙齿,
00:50
that is screwed into your jaw.
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用螺钉固定在你的下颌上。
00:53
Estimated costs for the implant surgery may add up to 10,000 US dollars.
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植牙手术的估计花费 可能会高达一万美金。
00:59
Replacing the ceramic inlay I had before
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但把我之前的瓷镶体换掉,
01:02
would come in at 100 US dollars.
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只要大约一百美元。
01:06
Was it my health or the money that could be earned with me
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到底是我的健康, 还是能从我身上赚到的钱,
01:10
that was the biggest concern for my dentist?
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是我的牙医最先考虑的事?
01:13
As it turned out, my experience wasn't an isolated case.
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结果发现,我的经历并非个案。
01:18
A study by a US national newspaper estimated that in the United States,
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美国一家全国性报纸的研究指出, 在美国所有的手术当中,
01:24
up to 30 percent of all surgical procedures --
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大约有三成——
01:27
including stent and pacemaker implantations,
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包括支架和心律调节器植入、
01:31
hip replacements and uterus removals --
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髋关节置换,及子宫移除——
01:34
were conducted
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被实施,
01:35
although other nonsurgical treatment options had not been fully exploited
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尽管其他非手术的 治疗方式尚未完全
01:39
by the physician in charge.
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被其主治医生采用过。
01:43
Isn't that figure shocking?
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那数字不是挺吓人的吗?
01:45
Numbers may be slightly different in other countries,
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在其他国家,数字可能稍有不同,
01:48
but what it means is that if you go to a doctor in the US,
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但这意味着,如果你在美国看医生,
01:52
you have a not-insignificant chance to be subjected to a surgical intervention
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你有极大的可能性, 会在不立即需要手术的情况下
01:57
without there being an immediate need for it.
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被要求进行手术治疗。
02:00
Why is this?
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为什么会这样?
02:02
Why are some practitioners incentivized to run such unnecessary procedures?
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为什么有些从业医生 会被鼓励去做这类不必要的手术?
02:09
Well, perhaps it is because health care systems themselves
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也许是因为医疗体制本身,
02:14
incentivize in a nonideal way
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用一种不尽理想的方式,
02:17
towards applying or not applying certain procedures or treatments.
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鼓励采用,或不采用 某些手术或治疗。
02:21
As most health care systems reimburse practitioners
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大部分的医疗系统 对从业医生的补助
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in a fee-for-service-based fashion
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是以按次付费的医疗费为基础的,
02:27
on the number and kind of treatments performed,
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根据治疗的数量和类型来付款,
02:30
it may be this economic incentive that tempts some practitioners
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可能就是这种经济上的奖励 诱使一些从业医生
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to rather perform high-profit surgical treatments
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选择采用高利润的手术治疗,
而不去寻求其他治疗方案。
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instead of exploring other treatment options.
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02:40
Although certain countries started to implement
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虽然有些国家开始导入
02:43
performance-based reimbursement,
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以绩效为基础的补助,
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anchored on a quality and efficacy matrix,
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综合考虑治疗的质量和效率,
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overall, there's very little in today's health care systems' architecture
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整体来说,现今的医疗 系统结构中,很少会有某种方式,
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to incentivize practitioners broadly
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广泛鼓励开业医生
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to actively prevent the appearance of a disease in the first place
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在一开始就主动预防疾病出现,
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and to limit the procedures applied to a patient
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并只对病人进行
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to the most effective options.
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效果最佳的手术。
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So how do we fix this?
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这问题要如何解决呢?
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What it may take is a fundamental redesign
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可能会需要从根本上重新设计
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of our health care system's architecture --
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我们的医疗系统结构——
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a complete rethinking of the incentive structure.
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完全重新思考激励性的结构。
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What we may need is a health care system
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我们需要把医疗系统的补助条件
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that reimburses practitioners for keeping their customers healthy
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改成是医生要保持其客户的健康,
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instead of almost only paying for services once people are already sick.
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而不是几乎只支付 已患病之后的治疗服务。
03:28
What we may need is a transformation
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我们需要转变,
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from today's system that largely cares for the sick,
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从现今主要的治疗疾病的体制,
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to a system that cares for the healthy.
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转变为预防疾病的体制。
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To change our current "sick care" approach
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把我们目前的“疾病诊治”方法,
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into a true "health care" approach.
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改变为真正“健康维护”方法。
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It is a paradigm shift from treating people once they have become sick
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这是一种示范性的转移, 从在大家生病之后才进行治疗,
03:49
to preserving the health of the healthy before they get sick.
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变成在他们生病之前 努力维持他们的健康。
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This shift may move the focus of all those involved --
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这种转移,可能会让 所有相关群体的焦点发生改变——
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from doctors, to hospitals, to pharmaceutical and medical companies --
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医生、医院、药厂, 及医疗器材公司——
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on the product that this industry ultimately sells:
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把重心转移到这个产业 最终要销售的产品上:
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health.
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健康。
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Imagine the following.
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想像以下情况。
04:12
What if we redesign our health care system
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如果我们重新设计医疗系统,
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into one that does not reimburse practitioners
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这个系统不会对于病人
实际上执行的手术而补助从医者,
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for the actual procedures performed on a patient
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but rather reimburses doctors, hospitals,
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而是让医生、医院、
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pharmaceutical and medical companies
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药厂,以及医疗器材公司,
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for every day a single individual is kept healthy
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确保每天每一个病人能健康无疾病,
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and doesn't develop a disease?
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就能得到补助?
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In practical terms, we could, for example,
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从实践的角度来说,比如,我们可以
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use public money to pay a health fee to an insurance company
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用公款来支付健康费给保险公司,
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for every day a single individual is kept healthy
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只要每天每一个人能保持健康
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and doesn't develop a disease
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无疾病,
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or doesn't require any other form of acute medical intervention.
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或是不需要任何 其他形式的急性医疗干预就付款。
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If the individual becomes sick,
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如果一个人生了病,
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the insurance company will not receive any further monetary compensation
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保险公司不会从治疗 所需要进行的医疗干预中
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for the medical interventions required to treat the disease of that individual,
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收到任何进一步的金钱补助,
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but they would be obliged to pay for every evidence-based treatment option
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他们反而有义务要支付 让客户恢复健康的治疗选择,
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to return the customer back to health.
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只要能够证明治疗的必要性。
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Once the customer's healthy again,
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一旦客户再次恢复健康,
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the health fee for that individual will be paid again.
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他们就会再次收到那个人的健康费。
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In effect, all players in the system
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实际上,在这个体制中的所有参与者
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are now responsible for keeping their customers healthy,
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现在都有责任要保持客户健康,
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and they're incentivized to avoid any unnecessary medical interventions
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他们若能避免不必要的 医疗干预,就能得到奖励,
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by simply reducing the number of people that eventually become sick.
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只要做到减少生病的人数。
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The more healthy people there are,
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大家越健康,
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the less the cost to treat the sick will be,
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治疗疾病的成本就会越低,
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and the higher the economic benefit for all parties being involved
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而保持每位客户健康的相关各方,
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in keeping these individuals healthy is.
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也会有更高的经济利益。
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This change of the incentive structure shifts, now,
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将奖励结构做这种改变
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the attention of the complete health care system
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会转移整个医疗体制的注意力,
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away from providing isolated and singular treatment options,
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从专注在提供独立 且单一的治疗选择,
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towards a holistic view of what is useful
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转变成从整体的角度关注要做什么,
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for an individual to stay healthy and live long.
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才能让人保持健康和长寿。
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Now, to effectively preserve health,
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若要有效地保持健康,
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people will need to be willing to share their health data
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大家需要愿意,并且经常分享
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on a constant basis,
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他们的健康数据,
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so that the health care system understands early enough
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这么一来,医疗系统就能及时
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if any assistance with regard to their health is needed.
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了解大家保持健康 需要什么样的协助。
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Physical examination,
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体检、
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monitoring of lifetime health data
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监控终身健康数据,
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as well as genetic sequencing, cardiometabolic profiling
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还有DNA测序、心血管代谢分析,
以及成像相关的技术,
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and imaging-based technologies
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will allow customers to make,
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会让客户配合健康教练
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together with health coaches and general practitioners,
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和广大从业医生,
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optimal and science-guided decisions --
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做出由科学引导的最佳决策——
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for their diet, their medication and their physical activity --
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包括饮食、用药, 以及身体活动相关的决策——
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to diminish their unique probability
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以降低每个人得到
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to fall sick of an identified, individual high-risk disease.
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每种可认定的高风险疾病的机率。
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Artificial intelligence-based data analysis
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以人工智能为基础的数据分析
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and the miniaturization of sensor technologies
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以及传感器技术的微型化,
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are already starting to make monitoring of the individual health status possible.
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已经开始让监控 个人健康状况成为可能。
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Measuring cardiometabolic parameters by devices like this
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用像这样的装置来 测量心血管代谢参数,
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or the detection of circulating tumor DNA in your bloodstream
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或赶在癌症袭击之前 就先检测你的血液中
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early on after cancer disease onset
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有无血液循环肿瘤DNA,
只是这类监控技术的 两个例子而已。
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are only two examples for such monitoring technologies.
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Take cancer.
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比如癌症。
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One of the biggest problems in certain oncological diseases
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(治疗)某些肿瘤疾病遇到 最大的问题之一,
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is that a large number of patients is diagnosed too late
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就是太多病人都太晚才确诊,
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to allow them to be cured,
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已经来不及治愈,
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although the drugs and treatments that could potentially have cured them
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尽管现今已经有些 药品和治疗手段
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are already existing today,
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有可能治愈他们,
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if the disease had only been detected earlier.
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只要疾病能更早被筛查出来。
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New technologies allow now, based on a few milliliters of blood,
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最新的技术已经能 根据几毫升的血液
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to detect the presence of circulating tumor DNA
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检测出是否有 血液循环肿瘤DNA,
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and thus, the presence of cancer,
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因此,在早期就能用
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early on in a really convenient manner.
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很方便的方式检测出癌症。
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The impact that this early-stage detection can have
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这种早期检测会造成的影响
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may be dramatic.
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是非常巨大的。
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The five-year survival rate for non-small cell lung cancer
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非小细胞肺癌的五年存活率,
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when diagnosed at stage one, which is early, is 49 percent.
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如果在第一期,也就是很早期 就诊断出来,五年存活率是49%。
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The same, when diagnosed at stage four, which is late,
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如果在第四期, 也就是晚期才诊断出来,
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is below one percent.
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五年存活率就不到1%。
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Being potentially able to prevent a large number of deaths
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只要用很简单的东西, 比如血液循环肿瘤DNA的血液检测,
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by something as simple as a blood test for circulating tumor DNA
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就有可能防止许多人因此丧命,
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could make certain cancer types a manageable disease,
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它能让某些类型的 癌症变成可以控制的疾病,
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as disease onset can be detected earlier
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疾病的发生能及早被检测出来,
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and positive treatment outcomes can likely be increased.
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因此也更可能会有正面的治疗结果。
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In 2012,
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2012年,
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50 percent of all Americans had a single chronic disease,
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有50%的美国人得了单一种慢性病,
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resulting in 86 percent of the $3 trillion US health care budget
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导致美国三万亿美元的 医疗预算中有86%
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being spent for treating such chronic diseases.
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花在治疗这类慢性病上。
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Eighty-six percent.
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86%。
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If new technologies allow now to reduce this 86 percent,
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如果新技术能减低这86%,
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why have health care systems not reacted and changed already?
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为什么医疗体系 还没有做出应对和改变?
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Well, a redesign of what today is a sick care system
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要把现今的疾病治疗体系
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into a true health care system that focuses on prevention
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重新设计成真正的 聚焦在预防和行为改变上的
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and behavioral changes
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预防性医疗体系,
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requires every actor in the system to change.
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这需要体制中的 每个行为者都做出改变。
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It requires the political willingness to shift budgets and policies
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这也需要政治意愿将预算和政策
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towards prevention and health education
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转向预防和健康教育,
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to design a new set of financial and non-financial incentives.
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来设计一组新的经济 和非经济上的奖励方式。
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It requires creating a regulatory framework
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这就需要创造一个规范的构架,
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for the gathering, using and sharing of personal health data
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来收集、使用和分享个人健康数据,
严格且合理的规范构架。
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that's at the same time stringent and sensible.
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09:33
It needs doctors, hospitals, insurers, pharmaceutical and medical companies
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这需要医生、医院、保险从业者、 药厂,以及医疗器材公司
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to reframe their approach and, most important,
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重新调整他们的方法, 而且,最重要的是,
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it can't happen without the willingness and motivation
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这件事若要成真, 需要依靠每个人都有
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of individuals to change their lifestyle in a sustained way,
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意愿和动机去改变他们的 生活方式,变得更可持续,
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to prioritize staying healthy,
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把保持健康列为优先事项,
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in addition to opening up for sharing the health data on a constant basis.
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此外还要能开放地 经常分享健康数据。
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This change may not come overnight.
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这种改变不会一夕成真。
09:58
But by refocusing the incentives within the health care industry today
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但现在就行动,在医疗产业中 将奖励的焦点转变为
10:03
to actively keep people healthy,
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主动保持民众健康,
10:05
we may not only be able to prevent more diseases in the first place
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我们不但能在一开始 就先预防更多的疾病,
10:09
but we may also be able to detect the onset of certain preventable diseases
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也能够检测出 某些可预防之疾病的发生,
10:13
earlier than we do today,
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且比现今能做到的更早,
10:15
which will lead to longer and healthier lives for more people.
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这就会让更多人 能更长寿、更健康。
10:20
Most of the technologies that we need to initiate that change
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要开始这项改变, 我们所需要的技术
大多已经存在了。
10:23
are already existing today.
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10:25
But this is not a technology question.
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但这不是个技术问题。
10:27
It is primarily a question of vision
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根本上讲,这是个远见,
10:31
and will.
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以及意愿的问题。
10:33
Thanks a lot.
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非常感谢。
10:34
(Applause)
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