What happens in your throat when you beatbox? | Tom Thum and Matthew Broadhurst

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翻译人员: mingli wen 校对人员: Yolanda Zhang
00:13
(Beatboxing) Yo, what up?
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(节奏口技)嘿,怎么样?
00:16
My name is Tom Thum,
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我叫汤姆·桑,
00:18
and I've got to say it's a pleasure to be back at TEDx.
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很高兴再次来到TEDx。
00:22
When I first stepped upon the Sydney stage in 2013
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作为一个来自布里斯班的 充满幻想的男孩,
我在2013年第一次走上悉尼的舞台时,
00:27
as a starry-eyed boy from Brisbane,
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00:29
I had no idea that I was about to deliver the most watched TEDx presentation ever.
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根本没想到将要做 有史以来最多人观看的TEDx演讲。
00:35
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
(掌声)
00:37
(Applause)
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00:39
But you know, I was stoked because it was completely unexpected.
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我很激动, 因为这完全出乎意料。
00:44
However, standing before you today
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但是,今天站在你们面前
00:46
as a slightly inflated, time-battered version of myself five years later,
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是五年后的我,受了时间的洗礼, 稍微长胖了一点,
我非常有信心。
00:51
I'm very confident.
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00:53
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:54
Confident that I'm about deliver
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我有信心会发表一个
00:58
the most instantly switched off and walked-out-on,
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史上最迅速被关掉和最多半途离席的,
让人恶心的演讲。
01:02
vomit-inducing talk of all time.
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01:09
I'm about to show you things
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接下来,我准备给你们看一些东西,
01:11
that I think you'll find hard to unsee,
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让你们很难视而不见,
01:15
but all in the name of science.
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但都是以科学的名义。
01:18
First, for those unfamiliar with what I do,
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首先,对于那些不熟悉我工作的人,
01:22
I guess if you distilled it right down to its essence,
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如果想简单归结成一句话,
01:25
you would call me a beatboxer.
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你可以说我是个节奏口技表演者。
01:27
(Beatboxing) Yo, for example ...
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(节奏口技)哟,比如说⋯⋯
01:31
here's a sample:
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这是一个示范:
01:32
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
01:41
(Rhythm changes)
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(转换节奏)
01:54
(Hums a tune)
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(哼出旋律)
01:57
(Applause and cheers)
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(掌声及喝采)
02:00
Thank you.
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谢谢。
02:01
(Applause)
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(掌声)
02:04
And being a beatboxer,
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而作为节奏口技表演者,
02:06
it means that professionally,
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就我的专业来说,
02:07
I am 100 percent reliant on the --
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我百分百倚靠着——
02:10
(Beatboxing) flexibility of the unfiltered human voice.
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(节奏口技)未经过滤的人声的灵活性。
02:15
And for years, my contemporaries and I have been fielding questions like,
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多年来,我和同行 一直在回答这样的问题:
02:19
"Oh my God, that's so cool.
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“哇,天哪,太酷了。
02:21
When did you figure out you could do that?"
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你是何时发现自己有这种技能的? ”
02:23
After I practiced for thousands and thousands of hours --
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在我练习了成千上万个小时之后——
02:27
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:28
"And what do you do for a real job?"
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“你是做什么工作的? ”
02:30
"I'm a full-time beatboxer, Your Honor."
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“阁下,我是一名全职的节奏口技表演者。 ”
02:32
But there is one question that I get quite a lot
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但我常常遇到的
02:36
that's a little bit more difficult to answer,
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一个比较难回答的问题,
02:39
and that is how are you doing it --
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就是,你是如何做到的——
02:41
how are you making those noises?
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你如何发出这些声音?
02:44
And I mean, I know muscle memory dictates where I position my lips
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事实上,我懂得肌肉记忆 指示我该如何调整嘴唇位置,
02:48
in order to --
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为了做到——
(节奏口技)
02:49
(Beatboxing)
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02:51
but I have no idea about the inner mechanics of everything.
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可是我对一切的内在机制一无所知。
02:55
You know, all the flappy bits and kind of dangly things
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也就是,那些飞扬的和悬荡的部分
02:58
and how they interact in --
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以及它们是如何相互作用的——
03:00
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:01
in a way that allows me to --
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让我能够做到——
03:03
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
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To put it metaphorically,
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打比方说,
03:10
I know how to drive,
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我会开车,
03:12
I just don't know what's under the hood.
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我只是不知道引擎盖下面是什么。
03:15
So I decided to find out
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所以我決定找出答案,
03:17
and invite 5,000 captive strangers,
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并邀请5000位陌生人,
03:20
a few uncomfortable cameras,
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一些让人不适的摄像头,
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everybody watching online and their browser history
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每个人都在网上观看, 他们的浏览器历史
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into a place where not even the most intimate of encounters have been ...
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进入了一个最亲密接触 也无法涉足的地方...
03:31
my throat.
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我的喉咙。
03:32
And to help me do that,
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为了帮助我做到这一点,
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I'd like to introduce to the stage a very specialist guest
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我要为大家介紹一个十分专业的嘉宾,
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from the Queensland Voice Center,
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他来自昆士兰语音中心,
这男士接触我嘴巴的次数 比我愿意承认的还要多,
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a man that's been in my mouth more times than I'd care to admit,
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03:44
a legend of the larynx,
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喉的传奇,
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ENT doctor and laryngeal surgeon,
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耳鼻喉科医生,
马修·布罗德赫斯特。
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Matthew Broadhurst.
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03:50
(Applause and cheers)
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(掌声和欢呼)
03:53
MB: Thank you, Tom, thank you.
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马修:多谢你,汤姆,多谢你。
03:55
And a very good evening everyone.
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大家晚上好。
03:57
It is a pleasure to be here on the TEDx stage tonight.
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今晚,我很荣幸可以来到TEDx的台上。
04:00
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:02
Whoo.
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喔。
04:03
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:04
TT: He's not warming up his hands.
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汤姆:他不是在暖手。
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It doesn't get that intimate.
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没有那么亲密。
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MB: We set out a little while ago to try to go deep into the world --
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马修:我们提前准备了一下, 好能深入一个世界——
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and the throat --
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也就是喉咙——
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of this beatboxer extraordinaire
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这位杰出口技表演者的喉咙,
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to try to understand how such a vast array of sounds are humanly possible.
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试图理解人类是如何发出如此多的声音。
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And what we found --
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我们发现——
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these are going in the mouth by the way --
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顺便说一下,我的手 待会儿要深入喉咙——
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and what we found was something absolutely amazing.
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我们发现了非常了不起的东西。
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Even after my two years of laryngeal surgery
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即使是我在哈佛医学院
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in Harvard Medical School
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与世界著名教授
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with world-renowned professor Steven Zeitels,
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史提芬泽·特尔斯一起 做了两年的喉部手术,
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we never saw anything as extraordinary or fascinating as this,
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我们也从来没见过 如此非凡和迷人的东西,
这也是我们今天晚上 将要展示给你们看的。
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and that's what we're going to show you tonight.
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04:47
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:50
Alright, so for those of you who might be a little squeamish,
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对于那些可能有些敏感的,
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the next 10 minutes or so will get incrementally more graphic
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接下来的十分钟左右, 会出现令人不适的图像,
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and stomach-churning,
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且让人反胃,
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so let's get into it --
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我们开始吧——
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TT: Feel free to use the bucket.
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汤姆:请随意使用水桶。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
05:02
MB: So when we make sound,
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马修:当我们发声时,
我们用声带从肺部吸气,
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we use the vocal cords to take air from the lungs
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and then turn it into a vibrating air column in the throat.
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然后在喉咙里转变成振动的气柱。
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If you think of it like a trumpet,
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如果你把它想象成小号,
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we've got the mouthpiece -- that's the vocal folds --
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乐器的吹口—— 那是声带——
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and then the horn section is the throat.
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然后铜管就是喉咙。
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If we took your head off,
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假如我们把你的头砍掉,
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took a bit of your neck off
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把你的脖子割掉一点
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and left you as a torso with just your vocal folds vibrating,
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让你的躯干只有声带在振动,
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this is what you'd sound like.
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这就是你的声音。
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(Flatulent sound)
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(浮夸的声音)
汤姆:(高音调)
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TT: (High pitch)
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马修:很难沟通,但是 幸运的是我们有喉咙。
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MB: Pretty hard to communicate, but fortunately we've got a throat.
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我们拥有所有的软组织,
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We've got all the soft tissues,
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给了你所有不可思议的声音动力学,
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and that actually gives you all the incredible dynamics of sound
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05:40
that you'll hear tonight.
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也是今天晚上你将会听到的。
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Now, this is a rigid laryngoscope.
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这是个坚硬的喉镜。
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TT: Hmm, spicy boy.
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汤姆:嗯,不好搞啊。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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MB: I know, I know.
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马修:我知道,我知道。
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(Laughter)
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05:52
10 millimeters in diameter,
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直径10 毫米,
它提供了我们能得到的 最高分辨率的喉咙图像。
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it gives us the highest resolution image of the larynx we can get.
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05:57
And we teed up with a stroboscope here
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在这里,我们还会同时使用频闪观察仪
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and a trigger microphone.
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以及触发传声器。
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The mic will pick up the frequency
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传声器会接收频率,
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and that will allow us to show you how this all works.
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这帮助我们能够展示 所有部分的工作原理。
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So, if we can have the lights down?
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我们是否可以把现场的灯调暗?
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TT: (Low pitch)
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汤姆:(低音调)
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MB: Turn the light on here.
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马修:打开这里的灯。
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TT: (High and low pitches)
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汤姆:(高音和低音)
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MB: So I've got the frequency of sound matched with the stroboscope.
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马修:我已经把频闪观察仪的 声音频率配好了。
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That's the light you're seeing flickering in the cup.
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就是你看到的在杯子里闪烁的光。
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TT: (Low pitch)
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汤姆:(低音)
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MB: And that's at about 80 hertz or so.
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马修:大约80赫兹。
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So what we can do then is we can take that
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我们等下要做的就是利用它
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and put the phase of the strobe and the sound just out of sync.
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再让频闪仪的相位和声音不同步。
06:39
That lets us capture real-time, slow-motion activity of vibrating tissues.
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这让我们能够实时捕捉到 振动组织的慢动作活动。
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When we apply that to the larynx,
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当我们把这应用到喉部时,
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we get this fluid, slow-motion of the vibrating vocal folds.
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就得到了这种振动声带流畅的慢动作。
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So that's what we're going to get on and do.
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这就是我们接下来要做的。
06:58
Alright, you ready?
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你准备好了吗?
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TT: Yup.
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汤姆:对。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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MB: OK, so here we go.
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马修:好的,那么我们开始。
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We're going to have a look at the voice box.
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我们马上要查看这音箱。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:11
It's very hard not to gag with this.
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很难忍着不呕吐。
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Say, "e."
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说,“e。”
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TT: (Singing) E --
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汤姆:(唱)E——
马修:在底部你可以看到声带,
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MB: So down the bottom you see the vocal cords,
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07:19
the little cord-like structures.
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小小带状的结构。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:23
And now just look at the skin on the neck
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现在看看颈上的皮肤,
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and you'll see how strong the light is to penetrate the skin.
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你能看见光线强度足够穿透皮肤。
07:34
Alright, so if you'll have the lights back on?
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能把灯打开吗?
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
(掌声)
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(Applause)
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07:43
Alright, so just give us a comfortable "e."
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好,给我们一个舒服的“e。”
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TT: (Singing) E.
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汤姆:(唱)E。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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TT: (Singing) E.
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汤姆:(唱)E。
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(Audience gasps)
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(观众的惊叹声)
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MB: So that's the vibrating vocal folds;
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马修:这就是振动的声带;
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about 120 hertz.
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大约120赫兹。
07:59
Means they've collided 120 times a second
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这意味着它们一秒钟撞击120次,
08:03
just to make that sound.
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才能发出这种声音。
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And we can also see that they're absolutely, perfectly normal.
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我们可以看到它们是非常正常的。
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So all his beatboxing, all those sounds for years
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所以他所有的口技表演,
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with Tom's way of doing it --
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这些年用汤姆的 表演方式表现的声音——
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absolutely no damage whatsoever.
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绝对没有造成任何损坏。
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That's really remarkable.
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真的很了不起。
08:21
Well done.
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做得很好。
08:22
OK.
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好了。
汤姆:(高音)
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TT: (High pitch)
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08:25
We've got this.
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我们做到了。
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MB: So watch now as the vocal cords go from high pitch to low pitch.
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马修:现在我们来看看 声带从高音到低音的变化。
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You'll see them go from long and skinny to short and fat.
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你会看到它们从长而细变成短而肥。
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Really think "e."
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发E的声音。
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TT: (High to low pitch) E.
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汤姆:(高音到低音)E。
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MB: Right.
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马修:对。
08:47
TT: (High to low pitch) E.
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汤姆:(高音到低音)E。
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MB: And what you can see is that his vocal range is so extreme --
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马修:可以看到他的音域很广——
08:56
much more extreme than any other performer I've worked with --
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比我共事过的任何 一个表演者都要广——
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the machine actually can't capture the really high pitches.
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这台机器实际上 无法捕捉到真正的高音。
09:03
TT: (High pitch)
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汤姆:(高音)
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MB: So we know that whistle register is somewhere around 2,092 hertz.
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马修:我们知道 口哨大约有2092赫兹。
09:10
That means the vocal cords,
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这意味着声带
09:11
well over 2,000 times a second,
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每秒振动超过2000次,
09:14
are banging together just to make that sound.
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互相撞击发出高音。
09:16
That's really extraordinary.
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太令人惊叹了。
09:18
If you think about them, they're only 15 millimeters long,
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如果你仔细想想,它们只有15毫米长,
仅相当于拇指的宽度。
09:22
so that's barely the width of your thumb.
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09:24
That's incred --
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真是难以——
09:25
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:27
That's amazing this organ can do such a thing.
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这个器官能做这样的事情真是太神奇了。
09:30
So now we're going to swap over to the flexible laryngoscope.
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那么我们现在换用柔性喉镜。
09:36
This is a little more graphic.
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观察会更直观一些。
09:38
TT: He bought it at SEXPO.
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汤姆:这是他在SEXPO买的。
09:40
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:43
MB: That wasn't in the script.
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马修:剧本里面没有这句。
09:45
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:46
(Applause)
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(掌声)
09:51
TT: Secondhand.
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汤姆:还是二手的。
09:52
(Laughter)
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(掌声)
09:57
MB: Now, we've had to time this bit perfectly
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马修:现在,我们必须精确地计时,
09:59
because of the requirement for local anesthetic.
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因为需要局部麻醉。
10:02
You've got to numb the nose, get the camera in.
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要把鼻子麻醉,让摄像头进去。
10:04
It doesn't help for producing a lot of the sounds,
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这不能帮助产生很多声音,
10:07
but it gives us a really cool view of what's happening.
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但它让我们对正在发生的事情 有一个震撼的视野。
10:10
So hold onto the stomachs, and let's see what we can do.
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准备好了,看看我们能发现什么。
(观众的惊叹声)
10:14
(Audience gasps)
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10:17
So we're going to the back of the nose.
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我们要到鼻子后面。
10:22
And there you can see the soft palate.
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在这里你可以看到软腭。
10:24
A lot of the sounds we make from day to day,
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我们每天从这里发出大量的声音,
10:27
even the simple ones,
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即使是最简单的,
10:28
are incredibly complex.
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也非常复杂。
10:30
The sound "kh" for example.
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拿声音“kh”举个例子。
10:32
It's the soft palate sealing up precisely against the back of the nose.
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这是软腭闭合,正好靠在鼻子后面。
10:36
So if you say it loudly five times,
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可以试着大声说五遍,
10:39
feel your own soft palate snapping against the back of the throat.
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感受自己的软腭猛击喉咙后部。
10:43
Kh, kh, kh, kh, kh, kh.
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Kh,kh,kh,kh,kh,kh。
10:47
Alright, so this is what it looks like when Tom does it.
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好,这就是汤姆发音时呈现的状况。
10:50
TT: Kh, kh, kh, kh, kh.
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汤姆:Kh,kh,kh,kh,kh。
10:53
A cacophony of cackling kookaburras and cockatoos in Kakadu
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(很多k音的绕口令) 卡卡杜笑翠鸟和凤头鹦鹉的刺耳叫声
10:57
couldn't quite quit ketamine.
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不能完全戒掉氧胺酮。
10:59
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
11:01
(Applause)
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(掌声)
11:03
MB: Alright, now in the beatboxing world,
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马修:实际上,在口技世界里,
11:05
of course, they can use that for all sorts of different effects.
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我们可以用它实现各种不同的效果。
11:09
I can help you.
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我可以帮你。
11:11
TT: This is fine, we're professionals.
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汤姆:没关系,我们很专业的。
11:14
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
11:16
(Beatboxing)
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(口技)
11:36
MB: Alright.
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马修:很好。
11:37
(Applause and cheers)
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(掌声和欢呼声)
11:40
Now we're going to slide down a little further.
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现在我们再向下滑一点。
11:44
If you'll just have the lights off
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请把灯关掉,
11:47
and just see if you can see the light in the mouth somewhere.
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看看你们能否看见光在嘴巴的某个地方。
11:50
You'll be able to see exactly where the camera is at.
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应该可以看到摄像头的确切位置。
11:53
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
11:56
TT: (Singing)
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汤姆:(唱)
11:57
Surprise.
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惊喜。
11:59
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:01
MB: Alright.
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马修:好的。
12:02
(Audience gasps)
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(观众的惊叹声)
12:04
So what you can see there, that's the base of the tongue.
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你们在这里看到的是舌头的底部。
12:07
The side walls of the screen,
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屏幕的侧壁,
12:09
that's the pharynx.
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是咽喉。
12:11
All muscle walls,
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所有肌肉壁,
12:12
and in the deep, dark decks is the larynx.
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在黑暗的深处是喉。
12:15
TT: Oh, should we have the lights back on?
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汤姆:可以把灯打开吗?
12:17
I think it's a good idea.
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我认为这是个好主意。
12:18
It's getting a bit creepy with them off.
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灯关掉时,有点吓人。
12:20
MB: Turn the lights on, thanks.
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马修:把灯打开,谢谢。
很好。
12:22
Good.
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目前,我检查了超过15000多个喉咙,
12:23
Now having examined over 15,000 larynxes and throats in my time,
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12:27
I can tell you that Tom's is as anatomically normal
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我可以告诉你们汤姆的喉咙 在解剖学上是正常的,
12:31
as anyone else's.
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与所有人一样。
只是他对所有肌肉和 软组织的巧妙利用
12:33
It's just his unique use of all the muscles and soft tissues
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12:36
which lets him do all these amazing sounds that you're going to hear.
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这使得他能发出所有 你们将会听到的美妙声音。
12:41
So we will dissect some of these sounds for you now.
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现在我们来分析一下这些声音。
12:45
TT: It's in there really. Definitely.
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汤姆:真的在里面,我能感觉到。
12:48
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:49
OK.
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好。
12:52
(High-pitched sounds)
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(高音)
12:59
(High-pitched sounds)
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(高音)
13:02
(Hooting)
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(颤音)
13:04
MB: So what he's doing is he's changing the shape
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马修:他在改变空气柱的形状
13:07
and the length of the vibrating air column
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以及振动的时间长度,
13:09
using rhythmic contractions of all the muscles
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使所有肌肉有节奏的收缩
13:11
to generate all those sounds that you're hearing.
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产生所有你们听到的声音。
13:15
(Beatboxing)
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(表演节奏口技)
(笑声)
13:17
(Laughter)
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13:19
(Low pitch)
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(低音)
13:22
MB: And now there's rhythmic movements of the --
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马修:现在,有节奏的运动——
13:25
they're the arytenoid cartilages way down there,
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它们是下面的杓状软骨,
13:27
rocking back and forth to create that different sound.
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前后摇摆创造出不同的声音。
13:30
TT: (Low pitch)
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汤姆:(低音)
13:37
MB: And we like to call this "sphincter bass."
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马修:我们喜欢叫它“括约肌贝斯“。
13:39
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:41
And what you can see is that collapsing all the tissue down --
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你看到的是把所有的组织都压塌了——
13:44
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:46
allows a different kind of really deep bass note.
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产生不同类型的低音。
13:50
Alright, so with local anesthetic on board,
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好了,局部麻醉后,
13:52
a big black hose in the nose,
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鼻子里一根大黑管,
13:54
we're going to let loose a sliver of his repertoire
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我们要把他的全部才能发挥出来,
来看看他的表演。
13:57
and see all this in play.
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14:00
And we'll move --
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我们挪动一下-
14:01
careful.
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小心。
14:06
TT: Can you pull it up just a smidgeon.
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汤姆:你可以把它拉上来一点吗?
(笑声)
14:09
(Laughter)
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14:14
TT: (Beatboxing)
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汤姆:(节奏口技)
14:16
Maybe just a little more --
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再多一点——
14:19
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
我们准备好了。
14:20
Alright, cool, I think we're good.
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14:22
(Beatboxing) To all my peeps who came to get deep,
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(节奏口技)致所有深入研究的伙伴们,
14:25
deep as the abyss --
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深入深渊——
14:27
check this.
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看看这个。
14:28
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
15:34
(Cheers)
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(欢呼)
15:37
(Applause)
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(掌声)
15:42
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
15:44
We start from the basics and build from scratch.
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我们从基础开始,从搓碟开始。
(记录搓碟声)
15:47
(Record scratch)
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15:48
Yeah, like that.
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对,就这样。
15:49
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
16:27
(Trumpet sound)
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(喇叭声音)
16:47
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
16:50
(Beatboxing) Back to basics.
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(节奏口技)回到基础。
16:53
(Beatboxing)
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(节奏口技)
17:00
(Beatboxing) You know the sound.
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(节奏口技)你知道这声音。
17:05
(Beatboxing) Make some noise.
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(节奏口技)发出一些噪音。
17:07
(Applause and cheers)
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(掌声及欢呼)
17:09
(Whistling)
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(口哨)
17:12
(Applause and cheers)
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(掌声及欢呼)
17:16
TT: Thank you so much.
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汤姆:非常感谢大家。
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