How storytelling helps parents in prison stay connected to their kids | Alan Crickmore

Prevodilac: Dragana Savanovic Lektor: Ivana Korom

It's story time.

Vreme je za priču.

Settle back, and I'll begin.

Opustite se i počinjem.

Once upon a time, a mother duck sat patiently on her nest of eggs,

Nekada davno, majka patka strpljivo je sedela na svom gnezdu,

waiting for them to hatch.

čekajući da se mladi izlegnu.

And then one day, she felt something move beneath her.

A onda jednog dana, osetila je kako se nešto ispod nje mrda.

Crack, crack!

Puc, puc!

Filled with happiness, she watched as her eggs hatched one by one.

Ispunjena srećom, gledala je kako se jaja izležu jedno po jedno.

I don't know about you, but when I was little,

Ne znam za vas, ali kada sam ja bio mali,

story time was always one of my favorite parts of the day.

pričanje priča je uvek bio moj omiljeni deo dana.

And I loved reading to my two sons when they were small, too.

Takođe, voleo sam da čitam mojim sinovima kada su bili mali.

It's that special time

To je ono posebno vreme

when a parent and child can be totally absorbed together

kada roditelj i dete zajedno mogu potpuno da urone

in mystical kingdoms, fantastical beasties

u mistična kraljevstva, fantastične zveri

or scruffy little ducks that turn out to be swans.

ili neuredne pačiće koji se pretvore u labudove.

Well, that's how it is for some children,

Pa, tako je bar nekoj deci,

but for other children,

ali druga deca

there isn't a parent around to read to them.

nemaju roditelja koji bi im čitao.

I'd like to tell you about Sophie.

Ispričao bih vam o Sofi.

Sophie's five years old and lives with her parents.

Sofi ima 5 godina i živi sa roditeljima.

One day, there's a bang at the door.

Jednog dana, neko lupa na vrata.

Sophie hears lots of shouting; her mum's crying.

Sofi čuje mnogo vike; mamu kako plače.

She sees the police dragging her father away.

Vidi kako policija odvlači njenog tatu.

Sophie's afraid. She starts crying, too.

Sofi je uplašena. Počinje da plače.

Weeks go by.

Prolaze nedelje.

Sophie doesn't know what's happened to her dad.

Sofi ne zna šta se desilo sa njenim tatom.

When she asks her mum, her mum gets upset.

Kada pita mamu, ona se uznemiri.

So she stops asking.

Pa prestaje da pita.

Sophie waits.

Sofi čeka.

She really misses her dad.

Stvarno joj nedostaje tata.

Every day, she hurries home from school, in case he's come back.

Svakoga dana, žuri kući posle škole, u slučaju da se tata vratio.

On many nights, she cries herself to sleep.

Noćima se uspavljuje plačući.

Children at school start to tease her.

Deca u školi je zadirkuju.

They call her names.

Daju joj nadimke.

Somebody's mum has heard that Sophie's dad is in prison.

Nečija mama je čula da je Sofin tata u zatvoru.

Sophie pretends to be ill so she doesn't have to go to school.

Sofi se pretvara da je bolesna da ne bi morala u školu.

And her teacher can't understand why she's so far behind

Njena učiteljica ne razume zašto toliko zaostaje

with her schoolwork.

sa školskim obavezama.

After what seems a long, long time to Sophie,

Nakon, kako se Sofi činilo, večnosti,

a letter arrives.

stiže pismo.

It's from her dad.

Od njenog tate.

The writing is very messy.

Rukopis je jako neuredan.

The letter makes her mum cry, but she reads a little out to Sophie.

Pismo rasplače mamu, ali mali deo čita Sofi.

He says that he's OK and that he's missing them.

Kaže da je ok i da mu nedostaju.

It's a short letter.

Pismo je kratko.

Sophie says she'd like to go and see her dad, wherever he is.

Sofi kaže da bi volela da poseti tatu, gde god da je.

But her mum says it's too far away, and they can't afford the journey.

Ali mama kaže da je jako daleko, i da ne mogu da priušte put.

Then one day the phone rings.

Onda jednog dana zazvoni telefon.

"Sophie, come speak to daddy."

„Sofi, dođi da pričaš sa tatom.“

Dad sounds different, far away.

Tata zvuči drugačije, daleko.

He says he can't talk for very long,

Kaže da ne može dugo da priča,

and anyway, it's very noisy wherever he is.

a i svakako, jako je bučno tamo gde je.

And Sophie doesn't know what to say to him.

Sofi ne zna šta da mu kaže.

Well, as stories go, that's not a very nice one.

Pa, kad se radi o pričama, ova nije naročito lepa.

In the United Kingdom, 200,000 children

U Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu 200.000 dece

experience the shame and isolation of a parent in prison.

iskusi sramotu i izolaciju zbog roditelja koji je u zatvoru.

Two hundred thousand.

Dvesta hiljada.

That's more than the number of children each year

To je više od broja dece

who are affected by their parents divorcing.

čiji se roditelji razvedu svake godine.

And it can affect the children of prisoners very deeply.

To može uticati na decu zatvorenika na veoma dubokom nivou.

There can be problems at school,

Mogu imati probleme u školi,

and they're three times more likely to suffer from mental health issues.

i imaju tri puta veće šanse za mentalne probleme.

In so many ways,

Na mnogo načina,

children are the unintended victims of their parents' crimes.

deca su nenamerne žrtve zločina svojih roditelja.

In so many ways,

Na mnogo načina,

children are the overlooked victims of their parents' crimes.

deca su zanemarene žrtve zločina svojih roditelja.

Until last November, I was a serving prisoner,

Do prošlog novembra, služio sam zatvorsku kaznu

imprisoned for fraud.

zbog pronevere.

I was dishonest, and I paid the penalty.

Bio sam nepošten, i platio sam kaznu.

Before that, I'd been a practicing solicitor for 30 years.

Pre toga, imao sam 30 godina advokatske prakse.

I'd had a happy and stable upbringing,

Imao sam srećno i stabilno odrastanje,

a good education,

dobro obrazovanje,

a happy marriage, which, I'm pleased to say, continues.

srećan brak, koji se, na sreću, nastavio.

I have two adult sons.

Imam dva odrasla sina.

When they were growing up, I did my best to be around for them

Dok su odrastali, trudio sam se da budem uz njih

as much as I could.

koliko god sam mogao.

And I took a careful interest in what they did.

Brižljivo sam se interesovao za ono što rade.

I read to my boys every night,

Čitao sam im svako veče,

and ironically, our favorite story was "Burglar Bill."

i ironično, naša omiljena priča je bila „Lopov Bil."

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

But when I got to prison, it soon became apparent

Kada sam otišao u zatvor, brzo je postalo očigledno

that my background was very different to that of most of the prisoners.

da je moja prošlost mnogo drugačija od prošlosti većine zatvorenika.

Few of the men that I met had had a decent education.

Par ljudi koje sam upoznao imalo je pristojno obrazovanje.

Indeed, many associated education with humiliation and failure.

Odista, mnogi su povezivali obrazovanje sa poniženjem i neuspehom.

I can tell you firsthand that prison is dehumanizing.

Iz prve ruke vam mogu reći da zatvor dehumanizuje.

Prisoners harden up, they shut down, they close in ...

Zatvorenici očvrsnu, isključe se, zatvore...

just to survive.

samo da bi preživeli.

And this can be devastating for families.

A ovo može biti razarajuće za porodice.

In fact, maintaining contact with your family from prison

U stvari, održavanje kontakta sa porodicom iz zatvora

can be very difficult indeed.

može biti zaista teško.

And if a child does get to see their parent in prison,

Ako dete i uspe da poseti svog roditelja u zatvoru,

they have to go through the same pat-down searches as the adults.

mora da prođe isti proces opipavanja kao i odrasli.

They walk through the same detector frames,

Prolazi kroz iste detektore metala,

they're sniffed by the same sniffer dogs,

onjuše ga isti psi,

and all because some children have been the unwitting carriers

a sve zbog toga što su neka deca bila nesvesni nosioci

of drugs and mobile phones.

droge i mobilnih telefona.

And when they get through to see their parent,

A kada uspe da vidi svog roditelja,

they may be tired from a long journey,

dete može biti umorno od dugog putovanja,

shy, tongue-tied, even upset.

stidljivo, ćutljivo, čak uznemireno.

And it isn't easy for the parents, who may not be getting along.

A to nije lako roditeljima koji se možda ne slažu.

For many reasons, not just these,

Iz mnogih razloga, ne samo ovih,

over half of prisoners lose contact with their children and families.

više od pola zatvorenika izgubi kontakt sa svojom decom i porodicama.

How can we help prisoners to stay in contact with their families?

Kako možemo pomoći zatvorenicima da ostanu u kontaktu sa porodicama?

When I was a prisoner at Channings Wood Prison,

Kada sam ja bio u zatvoru Channings Wood,

I began working for a charity called Storybook Dads.

počeo sam da radim za humanitarnu organizaciju Tate pričaju.

Storybook Dads began in 2003,

Organizacija je osnovana 2003.

when Sharon Berry, a civilian worker in a prison, realized just how much

kada je Šeron Beri, državni službenik u zatvoru, shvatila koliko žarko

many prisoners wanted to stay in contact with their children.

mnogi zatvorenici žele da ostanu u kontaktu sa svojom decom.

And so, armed with a few storybooks,

I tako je, naoružana sa nekoliko priča,

she began to help prisoners to read and record stories

počela da pomaže zatvorenicima u čitanju i snimanju priča

to send home to their children.

koje će slati kući svojoj deci.

It wasn't a new idea. Few ideas like this are new.

Nije to bila nova ideja. Malo koja ovakva ideja je nova.

They're great ideas.

To su sjajne ideje.

But it was an instant success.

Ali doživela je momentalni uspeh.

You may wonder: How does the recording of the stories work in prison?

Možda se pitate: kako snimanje priča funkcioniše u zatvoru?

Is it difficult for prisoners?

Da li je teško za zatvorenike?

Can it be challenging?

Može li biti izazovno?

Well, the process of choosing, reading and recording a story

Pa, proces biranja, čitanja i snimanja priča

can be very challenging for prisoners.

može biti jako izazovan za zatvorenike.

Prison is tough,

Zatvor je težak,

and prisoners can't afford to show any signs of weakness or vulnerability.

i zatvorenici ne smeju da pokažu nikakve znake slabosti ili ranjivosti.

But this, this recording process,

Ali ovo, ovaj proces snimanja,

this can be uncomfortable, upsetting, sometimes all just a bit too much.

to može biti neprijatno, uznemirujuće, a ponekad je sve to previše.

And prisoners often cry.

I zatvorenici često plaču.

They cry because they regret missing out on their children's lives.

Plaču jer im je žao što propuštaju delove života svoje dece.

They cry because they're ashamed that they've let their families down.

Plaču je ih je sramota što su izneverili svoje porodice.

They cry because they don't know how to go about reading to their children.

Plaču jer ne znaju kako da pristupe čitanju svojoj deci.

But because when they come to us we offer a private space, one-to-one,

Ali, kada dođu kod nas, imaju privatan prostor, jedan na jedan,

prisoners don't need to be tough anymore,

ne moraju više da budu jaki,

and they can use their vulnerability as a strength

i mogu koristiti svoju ranjivost kao snagu

when contacting with their children.

u kontaktu sa svojom decom.

I remember one prisoner who came to record.

Sećam se jednog zatvorenika koji je došao da snima.

He was a big, hard man with a reputation for being tough.

Bio je veliki, jak čovek poznat po svojoj snazi.

He came along as implacable as ever.

Došao je neumoljiviji nego ikada.

But when the door of the recording room closed behind him,

Ali, kada su se vrata sobe za snimanje zatvorila za njim,

that facade began to crumble.

ta fasada je počela da se urušava.

From his pocket, he took a screwed-up piece of paper

Iz džepa je izvadio zgužvano parče papira

and quietly began to read the words

i tiho počeo da čita reči

which he'd written as a message for his two little ones.

koje je napisao kao poruku za svoje dvoje dečice.

His hands were shaking.

Ruke su mu se tresle.

And then, in a surprisingly quiet voice,

Onda je, iznenađujuće tihim glasom,

he began to sing their favorite lullaby.

počeo da peva njihovu omiljenu uspavanku.

You see, there wasn't much that he could do from behind bars

Vidite, nije mogao mnogo toga da uradi iza rešetaka

to show his children that he missed and loved them.

da pokaže deci da mu nedostaju i da ih voli.

But he could do this.

Ali mogao je ovo.

Once the recording is made,

Kada je snimak napravljen,

it's sent to the Storybook Dads production unit

šalje se u produkciju organizacije Tate pričaju

at Channings Wood Prison in Devon.

u zatvoru Channings Wood u Devonu.

And that's where I worked.

Tamo sam ja radio.

I was trained, along with other prisoners,

Bio sam obučen, kao i drugi zatvorenici,

to edit and produce recordings sent in

da uređujem i produciram snimke poslate

from prisons all over the United Kingdom.

iz zatvora širom Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva.

Using audio and video software,

Koristeći audio i video softver,

the recordings have the mistakes taken out

iz snimaka se iseku greške,

and sound effects and music added in.

a dodaju zvučni efekti i muzika.

And the experience and skill which the prison editors gain

Iskustvo i veština koju steknu zatvorski urednici

helps them in their future employment.

pomaže im ubuduće pri zaposlenju.

Once the recording is finalized,

Kada je snimak završen,

it's transferred to a CD or a DVD and sent out to the families

prebacuje se na CD ili DVD i šalje porodicama,

so that the children can watch them whenever they feel the need.

kako bi deca mogla da ga gledaju kad god žele.

And they listen to these recordings and watch them a lot --

Oni ove snimke slušaju i gledaju često -

at bedtime, in the car ...

pre spavanja, u autu...

Some even take them to school to show their friends.

Neka deca ih čak nose u školu da pokažu prijateljima.

These recordings,

Ovi snimci

they show the children that they're loved and missed.

pokazuju deci da ih roditelji vole i da im ona nedostaju.

And they show the prisoner

A zatvoreniku pokazuju

that they can do something for their child, as a parent.

da može da uradi nešto za svoje dete, kao roditelj.

Do you remember Sophie?

Sećate li se Sofi?

Well, one day, just before Christmas, a parcel arrived,

E, pa, jednog dana, baš pre Božića, stigao je paket,

and this is what was in it.

i evo šta je bilo u njemu.

Let's listen to a little of it together.

Hajde da poslušamo malo zajedno.

(Video) Santa: On, Comet! On, Cupid! On, Donner and Blitzen!

(Video) Deda Mraz: Hajde, Komet! Hajde, Kupid! Hajde, Doner i Blicen!

Charlie: That's his reindeer, isn't it?

Čarli: To su njegovi irvasi, zar ne?

Santa: It is his reindeer, yeah.

Deda Mraz: Da, to su njegovi irvasi.

Up, up, higher and higher they flew,

Gore i gore, više i više su leteli,

across land, across oceans they sped.

preko kopna, preko okeana su ubrzavali.

Through the magical northern lights they passed --

Prolazeći kroz magična severna svetla -

I'd love to see the northern lights, wouldn't you?

voleo bih da vidim ta svetla, a ti?

Charlie: I figure they'd probably look a bit like that snowman's belly.

Čarli: Verovatno izgledaju kao stomak tog sneška.

Santa: They probably would, yeah.

Deda Mraz: Verovatno, da.

That's a cool snowman, isn't it?

To je kul sneško, zar ne?

Charlie: It's very cool indeed, I love it.

Čarli: Stvarno je kul, sviđa mi se.

Santa: They visited all the children in the world

Deda Mraz: Posetili su svu decu na svetu

and left presents for each and every one.

i ostavili poklon za svakoga.

In the blink of an eye, they were back in Frogsbottom Field.

Za treptaj oka, vratili su se u polje Donjeg Žabljaka.

(Charlie Laughs)

(Čarli se smeje)

Santa: You think that's well funny?

Deda Mraz: Misliš da je to jako smešno?

Charlie: I want to live in Frogsbottom Field!

Čarli: Ja želim da živim u polju Donjeg Žabljaka!

Santa: Where do you live, in Frogsbottom Tree?

Deda Mraz: Gde ti živiš, na drvetu Donjeg Žabljaka?

Charlie: I don't, I live in this tree.

Čarli: Ne, ja živim na ovom drvetu.

I've made it all Christmasy-look.

Uredio sam ga za Božić.

Santa: It's nice, that.

Deda Mraz: To je lepo.

You've done a good job, good job.

Dobro si obavio posao.

Charlie: Thank you very much!

Čarli: Hvala ti puno!

(Smeh)

(Laughter)

Alan Crickmore: Sophie and her mum listened to that three times,

Alan Krikmor: Sofi i njena mama slušale su to tri puta,

i dugo se nisu tako smejale.

and they haven't laughed so much in a long time.

They can see that he's all right, they can see that he loves them,

Vide da je on dobro, da ih voli,

and the next time he rings, Sophie's got plenty to talk about:

i sledeći put kada ih pozove, Sofi ima o mnogo toga da priča:

"What does Charlie the Chimp eat?

„Šta Čarli šimpanza jede?

Will daddy do another story very soon?"

Hoće li tata uraditi novu priču uskoro?“

Since it began in 2003, Storybook Dads has grown and grown.

Otkako je organizacija osnovana 2003. godine stalno je rasla.

It now operates as Storybook Dads and Storybook Mums

Sada funkcioniše kao Tate pričaju i Mame pričaju

u više od 100 zatvora u Ujedinjenom kraljevstvu.

in more than 100 prisons in the United Kingdom.

Ninety-eight percent of the prisoners who take part

Devedeset osam procenata zatvorenika koji učestvuju

say that it's improved their relationship with their child.

kažu da im je to popravilo vezu sa decom.

And since 2003,

Od 2003. godine,

over 60,000 DVDs and CDs have been sent out

preko 60.000 DVD-ja i CD-ova je poslato

to the children of prisoners.

deci zatvorenika.

For Sophie's family and for thousands of families like them,

Za Sofinu porodicu i hiljade takvih,

Storybook Dads has been a lifeline.

Tate pričaju je bio spas.

Some prisoners say that it's the first time

Neki zatvorenici kažu da je to prvi put

that they've begun to build a relationship with their child.

da su počeli da grade odnos sa svojim detetom.

And some poor readers have been so inspired

Neki slabiji čitači su bili tako inspirisani

by what they've been able to achieve

onim što su postigli, da su krenuli na časove

that they've gone to education classes to improve their own reading skills.

kako bi poboljšali čitanje.

Let's go back to the story of "The Ugly Duckling."

Hajde da se vratimo na priču o „Ružnom pačetu.“

Ali ovog puta, pustiću vam snimak jednog zatvorenika,

But this time, I'd like to play you a recording made by a prisoner,

because it encapsulates the power of what we do.

jer sažima moć onoga što mi radimo.

The prisoner was an Irish Traveller who couldn't read.

Zatvorenik je bio irski Putnik koji nije znao da čita.

And he wanted to send a story home to his daughter for her birthday.

A želeo je da pošalje kući priču ćerki za njen rođendan.

With the help of a mentor and some clever editing,

Uz pomoć mentora i malo pametne montaže,

something magical happened.

dogodilo se nešto magično.

This is an extract from the raw recording,

Ovo je isečak sirovog snimka,

where the prisoner is reading the story by repeating it, phrase at a time.

u kome zatvorenik čita priču ponavljajući je, frazu po frazu.

(Audio) Mentor: He had nowhere to hide.

(Snimak) Mentor: Nije imao gde da se sakrije.

Owen: He had nowhere to hide.

Oven: Nije imao gde da se sakrije.

Mentor: So one day, he ran away.

Mentor: Pa je jednog dana pobegao.

Owen: Then one day, he ran away.

Oven: Onda je jednog dana pobegao.

Mentor: He ran until he came to the great marsh.

Mentor: Trčao je dok nije stigao do velike močvare.

Owen: He run until he come to the great marsh.

Oven: Trčao je dok nije stigao do velike močvare.

Mentor: Where the wild ducks lived.

Mentor: Gde su živele divlje patke.

Owen: Where the wild ducks lived.

Oven: Gde su živele divlje patke.

AC: And this is a recording -- an excerpt of the recording

AK: A ovo je snimak - deo snimka

with the mentor's voice taken out and sound effects and music added in.

u kome je mentorov glas isečen, a zvučni efekti i muzika dodati.

(Audio) Owen: He had nowhere to hide.

(Snimak) Oven: Nije imao gde da se sakrije.

Then one day, he run away.

Onda je jednog dana pobegao.

He run until he come to the great marsh where the wild ducks lived,

Trčao je dok nije stigao do velike močvare gde su živele divlje patke,

and he laid in the rushes for two weeks.

i ležao u ševaru dve nedelje.

(Music) (Ducks quack)

(Muzika) (Patke kvaču)

Some wild ducks and geese come to look at him.

Neke divlje patke i guske su došle da ga vide.

"You're very ugly," they said, and they laughed at him.

„Jako si ružan“, kažu, i onda mu se smeju.

(Ducks quack)

(Patke kvaču)

The ugly duckling ran away from the great marsh.

Ružno pače je pobeglo iz velike močvare.

(Duck quacks)

(Patke kvaču)

AC: And this is how he finished the story:

AK: Evo kako je završio priču:

(Audio) Owen: He wasn't an ugly duckling at all.

(Snimak) Oven: On uopšte nije bio ružno pače.

During the winter, he had grown into a beautiful white swan.

Tokom zime, izrastao je u prelepog belog labuda.

The other swans looked at him and thought how beautiful he was.

Drugi labudovi su ga gledali i razmišljali kako je lep.

"Come with us," they said.

„Pođi sa nama“, rekli su.

And he did.

I pošao je.

(Bird sounds)

(Zvuk ptica)

Well, Tiara, I hope you have enjoyed this story

E pa, Tiara, nadam se da si uživala u priči

as much as I enjoyed reading this story to you.

koliko sam i ja uživao čitajući ti je.

I cannot wait to be with you again and hold you in my arms.

Jedva čekam da opet budem sa tobom i da te opet držim u rukama.

All my love, your daddy, Owen.

S ljubavlju, tvoj tata, Oven.

Lots of love, I miss you with all my heart.

Puno ljubavi, nedostaješ mi svim srcem.

Goodbye for now, my love. Bye bye.

Zdravo za sada, ljubavi. Pa-pa.

(Muzika)

(Music)

(Music ends)

(Muzika staje)

AC: When he listened to that recording in his cell

AK: Kada je slušao taj snimak u svojoj ćeliji

before it was sent out to his daughter,

pre nego što je poslat njegovoj ćerki,

he cried.

plakao je.

And that's a pretty common reaction from prisoners,

I to je prilično česta reakcija zatvorenika,

as they realize for the first time

kada prvi put shvate

they've been able to do something for their child

da su uradili nešto za svoje dete

which they never thought they could.

što su mislili da nikada neće moći.

They've connected in the most fundamental way,

Povezali su se na najznačajnijem nivou,

kroz pričanje priča.

through the medium of storytelling.

And as for Sophie,

Što se tiče Sofi,

she wants "The Gruffalo" next time.

sledeći put želi „Grozona.“

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

(Applause)

(Aplauz)