How storytelling helps parents in prison stay connected to their kids | Alan Crickmore
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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: Wilde Luo
00:13
It's story time.
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講故事的時間到了。
00:15
Settle back, and I'll begin.
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舒服坐好,我馬上開始。
00:18
Once upon a time, a mother duck
sat patiently on her nest of eggs,
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很久很久以前,一隻母鴨
很耐心地坐在她的巢裡孵蛋,
00:23
waiting for them to hatch.
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等著牠們孵化出來。
00:25
And then one day, she felt
something move beneath her.
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有一天,她覺得
身體底下有東西在動。
00:29
Crack, crack!
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咔啦,咔啦!
00:31
Filled with happiness, she watched
as her eggs hatched one by one.
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她滿心喜悅,看著她的蛋
一個接一個孵化出來。
00:37
I don't know about you,
but when I was little,
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我不知道你們如何,但我小時候,
00:39
story time was always
one of my favorite parts of the day.
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我一天中最喜愛的時段之一,
就是故事時間。
00:43
And I loved reading to my two sons
when they were small, too.
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我的兩個兒子還小的時候,
我也喜歡講故事給他們聽。
00:47
It's that special time
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那是段很特別的時光,
00:49
when a parent and child
can be totally absorbed together
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親子能夠共同沉浸在
00:52
in mystical kingdoms, fantastical beasties
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神秘的國度、幻想的怪獸,
00:55
or scruffy little ducks
that turn out to be swans.
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或是最後變成天鵝的醜小鴨。
00:59
Well, that's how it is for some children,
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嗯,對一些孩子來說是如此,
01:01
but for other children,
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但還有其他孩子,
01:03
there isn't a parent around
to read to them.
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他們身邊並沒有家長
會講故事給他們聽。
01:08
I'd like to tell you about Sophie.
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我想要跟各位說說蘇菲的事。
01:11
Sophie's five years old
and lives with her parents.
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蘇菲今年五歲,和父母同住。
01:15
One day, there's a bang at the door.
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有一天,門被重擊發出砰的一聲。
01:18
Sophie hears lots of shouting;
her mum's crying.
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蘇菲聽到大片吼叫聲;
她的母親在哭泣。
01:21
She sees the police
dragging her father away.
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她看到警察把她的爸爸拖走。
01:24
Sophie's afraid. She starts crying, too.
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蘇菲很害怕。她也開始哭。
01:27
Weeks go by.
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幾週過去了。
01:29
Sophie doesn't know
what's happened to her dad.
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蘇菲不知道她的爸爸
發生了什麼事。
01:31
When she asks her mum, her mum gets upset.
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當她問媽媽時,媽媽顯得很沮喪。
01:33
So she stops asking.
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所以她就不再問了。
01:37
Sophie waits.
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蘇菲等待著。
01:39
She really misses her dad.
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她真的很想念爸爸。
01:41
Every day, she hurries home from school,
in case he's come back.
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每一天,她放學就會趕回家,
以免爸爸已經回家了。
01:46
On many nights,
she cries herself to sleep.
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許多個晚上,她哭著入睡。
01:51
Children at school start to tease her.
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學校的其他孩子開始取笑她。
01:53
They call her names.
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他們會辱罵她。
01:55
Somebody's mum has heard
that Sophie's dad is in prison.
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某個人的媽媽聽說
蘇菲的爸爸在坐牢。
02:00
Sophie pretends to be ill
so she doesn't have to go to school.
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蘇菲假裝生病,
這樣她就不用去學校。
02:03
And her teacher can't understand
why she's so far behind
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她的老師無法了解為什麼
她的學業表現如此落後。
02:06
with her schoolwork.
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02:10
After what seems
a long, long time to Sophie,
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經過了對蘇菲而言
很長很長的一段時間之後,
02:13
a letter arrives.
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一封信寄到了。
02:15
It's from her dad.
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寄信人是她的爸爸。
02:16
The writing is very messy.
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字跡非常零亂。
02:19
The letter makes her mum cry,
but she reads a little out to Sophie.
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這封信讓蘇菲的媽媽哭了出來,
但她只唸了一小部分給蘇菲聽。
02:23
He says that he's OK
and that he's missing them.
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他說他沒事,且很想念她們。
02:27
It's a short letter.
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那封信很短。
02:30
Sophie says she'd like to go
and see her dad, wherever he is.
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蘇菲說她想要去看爸爸,
不論他在哪裡。
02:33
But her mum says it's too far away,
and they can't afford the journey.
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但她的媽媽說,爸爸太遠了,
且她們付擔不起旅費。
02:38
Then one day the phone rings.
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接著,有一天,電話響了。
02:41
"Sophie, come speak to daddy."
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「蘇菲,來跟爹地說話。」
02:44
Dad sounds different, far away.
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爸爸聽起來不太一樣,且很遙遠。
02:48
He says he can't talk for very long,
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他說他打電話的時間有限,
02:50
and anyway, it's very noisy
wherever he is.
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總之,不論他在哪裡,那裡很吵。
02:53
And Sophie doesn't know
what to say to him.
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而蘇菲不知道該對他說什麼。
02:58
Well, as stories go,
that's not a very nice one.
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就故事來說,這並不是
一個很好的故事。
03:01
In the United Kingdom, 200,000 children
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在英國,有二十萬個孩子
03:06
experience the shame and isolation
of a parent in prison.
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會因為有一位家長坐牢
而感受到羞恥和孤立。
03:11
Two hundred thousand.
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二十萬。
03:13
That's more than the number
of children each year
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這超過了每年因父母離婚
03:15
who are affected
by their parents divorcing.
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而受到影響的孩子數目。
03:18
And it can affect the children
of prisoners very deeply.
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囚犯的孩子受到的影響可能非常深。
03:21
There can be problems at school,
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他們可能會成為學校的問題學生,
03:23
and they're three times more likely
to suffer from mental health issues.
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且他們出現心理健康問題的
可能性比一般人高三倍。
03:28
In so many ways,
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在許多層面上,
03:30
children are the unintended victims
of their parents' crimes.
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父母犯罪,他們的孩子
都在無意中成了受害者。
03:35
In so many ways,
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在許多層面上,
03:37
children are the overlooked victims
of their parents' crimes.
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父母犯罪,他們的孩子
都成了被忽略的受害者。
03:43
Until last November,
I was a serving prisoner,
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在去年十一月之前,
我是在服刑的囚犯,
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imprisoned for fraud.
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因為詐欺而入獄。
03:48
I was dishonest, and I paid the penalty.
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我不誠實,而我因此受罰。
03:52
Before that, I'd been
a practicing solicitor for 30 years.
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在那之前,我當了
三十年的執業律師。
03:56
I'd had a happy and stable upbringing,
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我有一個幸福且穩定的養育環境,
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a good education,
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我有良好的教育,有幸福的婚姻,
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a happy marriage, which,
I'm pleased to say, continues.
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我很高興地說,它仍然維繫著。
04:03
I have two adult sons.
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我有兩個已成年的兒子。
04:06
When they were growing up,
I did my best to be around for them
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在他們的成長中,我盡可能
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as much as I could.
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陪在他們身邊。
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And I took a careful interest
in what they did.
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我很小心地去關心他們所做的事。
04:13
I read to my boys every night,
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我每天晚上都會講故事
給我的兒子們聽,
04:16
and ironically, our favorite story
was "Burglar Bill."
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很諷刺的是,我們最愛的
故事是《大盜比爾》。
04:21
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:25
But when I got to prison,
it soon became apparent
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但是當我去坐牢時,
很快就能清楚地發現,
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that my background was very different
to that of most of the prisoners.
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我的背景和其他
大部分囚犯非常不同。
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Few of the men that I met
had had a decent education.
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我很少遇到教育程度較高的囚犯。
04:35
Indeed, many associated education
with humiliation and failure.
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的確,許多人會把教育
與羞辱及失敗聯繫起來。
04:40
I can tell you firsthand
that prison is dehumanizing.
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我可以告訴各位我的親身體驗,
監獄是很沒人性的。
04:45
Prisoners harden up,
they shut down, they close in ...
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囚犯都要變得很強硬,
停止運轉,封閉自己……
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just to survive.
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只為了生存。
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And this can be devastating for families.
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這對於家庭來說是毀滅性的。
04:56
In fact, maintaining contact
with your family from prison
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事實上,從監獄中維持和家人的聯絡
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can be very difficult indeed.
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的確是非常困難的事。
05:03
And if a child does get to see
their parent in prison,
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如果孩子的確有機會到監獄探視家長,
05:06
they have to go through
the same pat-down searches as the adults.
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他們得要和成人一樣接受搜身。
05:09
They walk through
the same detector frames,
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他們也要走過同樣的探測門,
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they're sniffed by the same sniffer dogs,
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他們同樣要被嗅探犬聞過,
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and all because some children
have been the unwitting carriers
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這全都因為有些孩子
在不知情的狀況下
成為將毒品和行動電話
走私進去的工具。
05:18
of drugs and mobile phones.
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05:21
And when they get through
to see their parent,
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當他們可以見到家長時,
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they may be tired from a long journey,
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他們可能已經因為
漫長的旅途而累壞了,
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shy, tongue-tied, even upset.
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害羞、舌頭打結,甚至很沮喪。
05:29
And it isn't easy for the parents,
who may not be getting along.
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對於不太會應付這種狀況的
父母來說,這並不好受。
05:34
For many reasons, not just these,
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基於許多理由,不僅這些,
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over half of prisoners lose contact
with their children and families.
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一半以上的囚犯
會和孩子及家人失聯。
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How can we help prisoners
to stay in contact with their families?
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我們要如何協助囚犯
和家人保持聯絡?
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When I was a prisoner
at Channings Wood Prison,
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當我還在 Channings Wood
監獄服刑時,
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I began working for a charity
called Storybook Dads.
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我開始為一個慈善團體
「故事書爸爸」工作。
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Storybook Dads began in 2003,
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「故事書爸爸」於 2003 年創立,
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when Sharon Berry, a civilian worker
in a prison, realized just how much
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那時,在一間監獄
擔任文職人員的雪倫 · 貝利
了解到有許多囚犯
非常想要和孩子聯絡。
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many prisoners wanted to stay
in contact with their children.
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06:04
And so, armed with a few storybooks,
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所以,只帶著幾本故事書,
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she began to help prisoners
to read and record stories
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她就開始協助囚犯
朗讀故事並錄下來,
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to send home to their children.
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再寄送回家給他們的孩子。
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It wasn't a new idea.
Few ideas like this are new.
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這不是個新點子。
像這樣的點子很少是新的。
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They're great ideas.
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它們是很棒的點子。
06:18
But it was an instant success.
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但是,它馬上就成功了。
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You may wonder: How does the recording
of the stories work in prison?
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你可能會納悶:在監獄中
要如何錄下故事?
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Is it difficult for prisoners?
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這對囚犯來說會很困難嗎?
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Can it be challenging?
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它會很有挑戰性嗎?
06:33
Well, the process of choosing,
reading and recording a story
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選擇、朗讀,並錄下故事的過程,
對囚犯來說可能是很有挑戰性的。
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can be very challenging for prisoners.
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06:42
Prison is tough,
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監獄很艱難,
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and prisoners can't afford to show
any signs of weakness or vulnerability.
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囚犯承受不起任何
軟弱或脆弱的表現徵兆。
06:50
But this, this recording process,
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但是,這個錄製過程,
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this can be uncomfortable, upsetting,
sometimes all just a bit too much.
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會讓他們不舒服、心煩意亂,
有時甚至難以承受。
07:01
And prisoners often cry.
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囚犯常會哭出來。
07:04
They cry because they regret
missing out on their children's lives.
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他們會哭,是因為他們
很後悔錯過了孩子們的人生。
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They cry because they're ashamed
that they've let their families down.
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他們會哭,是因為他們
很慚愧自己讓家人失望了。
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They cry because they don't know
how to go about reading to their children.
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他們會哭,是因為他們不知道
要如何講故事給他們的孩子們聽。
07:20
But because when they come to us
we offer a private space, one-to-one,
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但是,因為當他們來找我們時,
我們會提供私人的空間,一對一,
07:25
prisoners don't need to be tough anymore,
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囚犯不再需要故作強悍,
07:28
and they can use
their vulnerability as a strength
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他們和孩子聯絡時
反而能把自己的脆弱當成一種力量。
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when contacting with their children.
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07:35
I remember one prisoner
who came to record.
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我記得有一個來錄故事的囚犯。
07:39
He was a big, hard man
with a reputation for being tough.
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他是個高大冷酷的男人,
以強悍聞名。
07:43
He came along as implacable as ever.
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他來的時候,
和平時一樣執拗的樣子。
07:45
But when the door of the recording
room closed behind him,
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但當錄製間的門在他背後關上時,
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that facade began to crumble.
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冷酷的外表就開始瓦解了。
07:50
From his pocket, he took
a screwed-up piece of paper
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他從口袋中拿出揉成一團的紙,
07:54
and quietly began to read the words
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靜靜地開始讀出上面的字,
07:55
which he'd written as a message
for his two little ones.
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這是他寫給兩個孩子的訊息。
08:00
His hands were shaking.
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他的雙手在顫抖。
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And then, in a surprisingly quiet voice,
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接著,他的聲音
平靜到讓人難以置信,
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he began to sing their favorite lullaby.
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他開始唱孩子們最愛的搖籃曲。
08:10
You see, there wasn't much
that he could do from behind bars
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要知道,在牢房裡,即便他想要
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to show his children
that he missed and loved them.
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向他的孩子們表露他的思念和愛,
他能做的也不多。
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But he could do this.
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但他至少能做這件事。
08:20
Once the recording is made,
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錄製完成之後,
08:22
it's sent to the Storybook Dads
production unit
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就會被送到德文郡
Channings Wood 監獄的
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at Channings Wood Prison in Devon.
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「故事書爸爸」生產單位。
08:31
And that's where I worked.
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我就在那裡工作。
08:33
I was trained, along with other prisoners,
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我和其他囚犯一起接受訓練,
08:35
to edit and produce recordings sent in
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針對英國各地監獄送過來的錄製品
08:38
from prisons all over the United Kingdom.
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做編輯和生產。
08:42
Using audio and video software,
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使用影音軟體,
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the recordings have the mistakes taken out
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錄製品中的錯誤被除去,
08:50
and sound effects and music added in.
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加入了音效和配樂。
08:55
And the experience and skill
which the prison editors gain
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而監獄編輯所學到的經驗和技能,
09:01
helps them in their future employment.
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也能協助他們未來找工作用。
09:06
Once the recording is finalized,
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等錄製品完成編輯之後,
09:08
it's transferred to a CD or a DVD
and sent out to the families
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就會被轉成 CD 或 DVD,
寄出給家人,
09:14
so that the children can watch them
whenever they feel the need.
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孩子們有需要時,
隨時都可以觀看。
09:20
And they listen to these recordings
and watch them a lot --
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他們經常會觀看這些錄製品——
09:26
at bedtime, in the car ...
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睡覺時、在車上時……
09:29
Some even take them to school
to show their friends.
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有些孩子還帶去學校,秀給朋友看。
09:34
These recordings,
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這些錄製品,
09:36
they show the children
that they're loved and missed.
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讓孩子們知道他們
是被愛著的、被思念著的。
09:39
And they show the prisoner
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也讓囚犯知道,
09:41
that they can do something
for their child, as a parent.
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他們可以以家長的身分,
為孩子做點什麼。
09:47
Do you remember Sophie?
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你們記得蘇菲嗎?
09:49
Well, one day, just
before Christmas, a parcel arrived,
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有一天,就在聖誕節前,
一個包裹寄到了,
09:53
and this is what was in it.
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這就是包裹裡面的東西。
09:56
Let's listen to a little of it together.
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咱們一起來聽聽其中一小部分。
09:58
(Video) Santa: On, Comet!
On, Cupid! On, Donner and Blitzen!
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(影片)聖誕老人:喔,慧星!
喔,丘比特!喔,雷和閃電!
10:02
Charlie: That's his reindeer, isn't it?
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查理:那是他的馴鹿,不是嗎?
聖誕老人:是的,是他的馴鹿。
10:04
Santa: It is his reindeer, yeah.
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10:06
Up, up, higher and higher they flew,
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他們向上越飛越高,
10:09
across land, across oceans they sped.
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他們加速越過大地,越過海洋。
10:12
Through the magical
northern lights they passed --
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他們穿過了魔法般的北極光——
10:15
I'd love to see the northern
lights, wouldn't you?
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我真想看看北極光,你呢?
10:18
Charlie: I figure they'd probably look
a bit like that snowman's belly.
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查理:我覺得北極光看起來
可能會有點像是雪人的肚子。
10:21
Santa: They probably would, yeah.
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聖誕老人:有可能,是的。
10:23
That's a cool snowman, isn't it?
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那是個很酷的雪人,對吧?
10:25
Charlie: It's very cool indeed, I love it.
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查理:的確非常酷,我很喜歡。
10:27
Santa: They visited
all the children in the world
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聖誕老人:他們造訪了
世界各地所有的小孩,
10:30
and left presents for each and every one.
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給每一個人留下了禮物。
10:33
In the blink of an eye,
they were back in Frogsbottom Field.
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一眨眼之間,他們就
回到了蛙屁股原野。
10:37
(Charlie Laughs)
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(查理的笑聲)
10:38
Santa: You think that's well funny?
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聖誕老人:你覺得這很好笑?
10:40
Charlie: I want to live
in Frogsbottom Field!
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查理:我想要住在蛙屁股原野!
10:42
Santa: Where do you live,
in Frogsbottom Tree?
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聖誕老人:你要住哪?蛙屁股樹?
10:45
Charlie: I don't, I live in this tree.
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查理:不是,我住在這棵樹上。
10:47
I've made it all Christmasy-look.
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我把它裝飾得很有聖誕氣氛。
10:49
Santa: It's nice, that.
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聖誕老人:那很棒。
你做得很棒,很棒。
10:50
You've done a good job, good job.
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10:52
Charlie: Thank you very much!
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查理:非常謝謝你!
10:54
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:57
Alan Crickmore: Sophie and her mum
listened to that three times,
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艾倫 · 柯里克摩爾:蘇菲
和她的媽媽一共聽了三遍,
她們好久沒有笑這麼開心了。
11:01
and they haven't laughed
so much in a long time.
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11:03
They can see that he's all right,
they can see that he loves them,
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她們能看到他很好,
她們能看到他愛她們,
11:06
and the next time he rings,
Sophie's got plenty to talk about:
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且下次他打電話來時,
蘇菲就有很多可以談的了:
11:09
"What does Charlie the Chimp eat?
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「查理黑猩猩都吃什麼?
11:11
Will daddy do another story very soon?"
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爸爸很快就會
再講下一個故事嗎?」
11:15
Since it began in 2003,
Storybook Dads has grown and grown.
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「故事書爸爸」從 2003 年
創始之後就一直成長。
11:22
It now operates as Storybook Dads
and Storybook Mums
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它現在以「故事書爸爸
和故事書媽媽」的名稱
11:26
in more than 100 prisons
in the United Kingdom.
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在英國超過一百間監獄中營運。
11:29
Ninety-eight percent
of the prisoners who take part
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參與的囚犯中有 98%
11:33
say that it's improved
their relationship with their child.
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都說它改善了他們與孩子的關係。
11:37
And since 2003,
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從 2003 年起,
11:40
over 60,000 DVDs and CDs
have been sent out
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已經寄出了超過六萬張 DVD 和 CD
11:45
to the children of prisoners.
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給囚犯的孩子。
11:50
For Sophie's family and for thousands
of families like them,
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對於蘇菲的家庭,
以及其他數千個類似的家庭,
11:53
Storybook Dads has been a lifeline.
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「故事書爸爸」一直
是他們的生命線。
11:57
Some prisoners say
that it's the first time
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有些囚犯說,這是他們第一次
11:59
that they've begun to build
a relationship with their child.
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開始和孩子建立關係。
12:03
And some poor readers
have been so inspired
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有些不太識字的人,
看到能達到這樣的成果,
12:06
by what they've been able to achieve
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也讓他們大受鼓舞,
12:08
that they've gone to education classes
to improve their own reading skills.
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以致於他們還去上教育課程
來加強他們自己的閱讀技能。
12:14
Let's go back to the story
of "The Ugly Duckling."
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咱們回到「醜小鴨」的故事。
12:17
But this time, I'd like to play you
a recording made by a prisoner,
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但是這一次,我要播放一段
一位囚犯的錄音給各位聽,
12:22
because it encapsulates
the power of what we do.
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因為從中可以看到
我們的工作有多大的力量。
12:26
The prisoner was an Irish Traveller
who couldn't read.
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這位囚犯是位
不識字的愛爾蘭旅人。
12:31
And he wanted to send a story home
to his daughter for her birthday.
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他想要把一個故事寄回家
給她女兒當作生日禮物。
12:36
With the help of a mentor
and some clever editing,
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靠著一位導師的協助
和一些巧妙編輯,
12:39
something magical happened.
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發生了很神奇的事。
12:42
This is an extract from the raw recording,
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這是從原始錄音當中取出的片段,
12:45
where the prisoner is reading the story
by repeating it, phrase at a time.
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囚犯在唸這個故事時,
是一次一句地重覆跟著唸的。
12:50
(Audio) Mentor: He had nowhere to hide.
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(聲音)導師:牠無處可躲。
12:52
Owen: He had nowhere to hide.
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歐文:牠無處可躲。
12:53
Mentor: So one day, he ran away.
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導師:所以,有一天,牠逃走了。
12:56
Owen: Then one day, he ran away.
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歐文:所以,有一天,牠逃走了。
12:58
Mentor: He ran until he came
to the great marsh.
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導師:牠一直跑,直到一個大沼澤。
13:02
Owen: He run until he come
to the great marsh.
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歐文:牠一直跑,直到一個大沼澤。
13:05
Mentor: Where the wild ducks lived.
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導師:這裡住著野生的鴨子。
13:07
Owen: Where the wild ducks lived.
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歐文:這裡住著野生的鴨子。
13:11
AC: And this is a recording --
an excerpt of the recording
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講者:這段錄音——
把導師的聲音除去,
13:15
with the mentor's voice taken out
and sound effects and music added in.
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並加上音效和配樂的版本,
變成是這樣。
13:22
(Audio) Owen: He had nowhere to hide.
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(聲音)歐文:牠無處可躲。
13:24
Then one day, he run away.
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所以,有一天,牠逃走了。
13:26
He run until he come to the great marsh
where the wild ducks lived,
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牠一直跑,直到一個大沼澤,
這裡住著野生的鴨子,
13:30
and he laid in the rushes for two weeks.
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牠在燈心草中躺了兩個星期。
13:33
(Music) (Ducks quack)
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(音樂)(鴨子叫聲)
13:35
Some wild ducks and geese
come to look at him.
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有些野鴨和鵝跑來看牠。
13:38
"You're very ugly," they said,
and they laughed at him.
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牠們說:「你非常醜陋。」
並嘲笑牠。
13:41
(Ducks quack)
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(鴨子叫聲)
13:48
The ugly duckling ran away
from the great marsh.
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醜小鴨逃離了大沼澤。
13:52
(Duck quacks)
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(鴨子叫聲)
13:56
AC: And this is how he finished the story:
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講者:他是這樣將故事收尾的。
14:01
(Audio) Owen: He wasn't
an ugly duckling at all.
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(聲音)歐文:牠根本
不是一隻醜小鴨。
14:03
During the winter, he had grown
into a beautiful white swan.
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在冬天,牠長大成為了
一隻漂亮的白天鵝。
14:08
The other swans looked at him
and thought how beautiful he was.
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其他天鵝看著牠,想著牠有多漂亮。
14:13
"Come with us," they said.
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牠們說:「加入我們吧。」
14:16
And he did.
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牠跟去了。
14:17
(Bird sounds)
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(鳥的聲音)
14:24
Well, Tiara, I hope you
have enjoyed this story
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蒂艾拉,我希望你喜歡這個故事,
14:27
as much as I enjoyed
reading this story to you.
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就如同我喜歡說這個故事給你聽。
14:32
I cannot wait to be with you again
and hold you in my arms.
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我等不及再次與你相聚,
親手抱住你。
14:36
All my love, your daddy, Owen.
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最愛你的爸爸,歐文上。
14:39
Lots of love, I miss you
with all my heart.
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我深愛著你,魂牽夢縈。
14:41
Goodbye for now, my love. Bye bye.
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暫時先說再見,我最愛的人,拜拜。
14:44
(Music)
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(音樂)
14:51
(Music ends)
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(音樂結束)
14:54
AC: When he listened
to that recording in his cell
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講者:在這段錄音
被寄出給他女兒之前,
14:56
before it was sent out to his daughter,
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他先在牢房裏聽過一遍,他哭了。
14:58
he cried.
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15:00
And that's a pretty common
reaction from prisoners,
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那是囚犯非常常見的反應,
15:02
as they realize for the first time
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因為他們第一次了解到,
15:04
they've been able
to do something for their child
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他們能夠為自己的孩子做點什麼,
15:06
which they never thought they could.
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以前他們從來不認為自己能辦到。
15:09
They've connected
in the most fundamental way,
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他們用最原始的方式建立了連結,
15:13
through the medium of storytelling.
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透過講故事當作媒介。
15:16
And as for Sophie,
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至於蘇菲,
15:18
she wants "The Gruffalo" next time.
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她下次想要聽《怪獸古肥玀》。
15:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
15:21
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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