How guest worker visas could transform the US immigration system | David J. Bier

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Prevodilac: Tijana Maslać Lektor: Ivana Korom
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By October 2018,
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Od oktobra 2018,
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Juan Carlos Rivera could no longer afford
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Huan Karlos Rivera nije više mogao da priušti
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to live in his home in Copan, Honduras.
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da živi u svom domu u Kopanu, u Hondurasu.
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As the "Dallas Morning News" reported,
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Kako prenose "Jutarnje novosti Dalasa",
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a gang was taking 10 percent of his earnings from his barber shop.
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banda je uzimala 10 posto njegove zarade iz njegove berbernice.
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His wife was assaulted going to her pre-K teaching job.
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Njegovu suprugu su napali dok je odlazila na posao u vrtiću.
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And they were concerned about the safety of their young daughter.
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I bili su zabrinuti zbog bezbednosti njihove mlade kćerke.
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What could they do?
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Šta su mogli da urade?
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Run away?
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Da pobegnu?
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Seek asylum in another country?
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Da traže azil u drugoj državi?
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They didn't want to do that.
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Nisu želeli to da urade.
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They just wanted to live in their country safely.
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Samo su želeli da žive bezbedno u svojoj zemlji.
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But their options were limited.
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Ali njihove opcije su bile ograničene.
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So that month,
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Stoga je tog meseca,
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Juan Carlos moved his family to a safer location
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Huan Karlos preselio svoju porodicu na bezbednije mesto,
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while he joined a group of migrants on the long and perilous journey
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dok se on pridružio grupi migranata na dugom i opasnom putovanju
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from Central America
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od Centralne Amerike do posla,
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to a job a family member said was open for him in the United States.
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za koji je član porodice rekao da ga čeka u Sjedinjenim Državama.
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By now we're all familiar with what awaited them
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Do sada smo svi upoznati sa tim šta ih je dočekalo
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at the US-Mexico border.
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na američko-meksičkoj granici.
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The harsher and harsher penalties doled out to those crossing there.
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Sve strože i strože kazne za one koji su tu prelazili granicu.
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The criminal prosecutions for crossing illegally.
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Krivično gonjenje zbog ilegalnog prelaska.
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The inhumane detention.
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Nehuman pritvor.
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And most terribly, separation of families.
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A što je najužasnije - razdvajanje porodica.
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I'm here to tell you that not only is this treatment wrong,
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Ovde sam da vam kažem da je ovakav pristup ne samo pogrešan,
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it's unnecessary.
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već i nepotreban.
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This belief that the only way to maintain order
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Ovo uverenje da su nehumana sredstva
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is with inhumane means
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jedini način da se uspostavi red
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is inaccurate.
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je netačan.
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And in fact, the opposite is true.
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I u suštini je ono suprotno tome istinito.
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Only a humane system will create order at the border.
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Jedino će humani sistem stvoriti red na granici.
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When safe, orderly, legal travel to the United States is available,
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Kada je sigurno, uredno i legalno putovanje u Ameriku dostupno,
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very few people choose travel that is unsafe,
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veoma malo ljudi bira put koji je nebezbedan,
neuredan i ilegalan.
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disorderly or illegal.
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02:03
Now, I appreciate the idea
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Sad, cenim ideju
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that legal immigration could just resolve the border crisis
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da bi legalna imigracija mogla da reši graničnu krizu
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might sound a bit fanciful.
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možda zvuči pomalo maštovito.
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But here is the good news:
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Ali evo ih dobre vesti:
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We have done this before.
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uradili smo ovo i pre.
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I've been working on immigration for years
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Radim na imigraciji već godinama
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at the Cato Institute
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na Kato Institutu
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and other think tanks in Washington DC
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i drugim istraživačkim centrima u Vašingtonu
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and as the senior policy adviser for a republican member of Congress,
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i kao viši politički savetnik za republikanskog člana Kongresa,
pregovaram dvostranačku imigracionu reformu.
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negotiating bipartisan immigration reform.
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02:31
And I've seen firsthand
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I video sam iz prve ruke
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how America has implemented a system of humane order at the border
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kako je Amerika implementirala sistem humanog reda na granici
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for Mexico.
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sa Meksikom.
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It's called a guest worker program.
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Zove se program gostujućeg radnika.
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And here's the even better news.
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A evo ih i još bolje vesti:
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We can replicate this success for Central America.
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ovaj uspeh možemo da ponovimo sa Centralnom Amerikom.
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Of course, some people
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Naravno, neki ljudi
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will still need to seek asylum at the border.
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će i dalje morati da traže azil na granici.
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But to understand how successful
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Ali da bi se razumelo koliko uspešno
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this could be for immigrants like Juan Carlos,
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bi ovo moglo biti za imigrante poput Huan Karlosa,
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understand that until recently,
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shvatite da je do nedavno
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nearly every immigrant arrested by Border Patrol was Mexican.
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skoro svaki imigrant kog je granična policija uhapsila
bio Meksikanac.
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In 1986,
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Godine 1986. je svaki agent granične patrole
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each Border Patrol agent arrested 510 Mexicans.
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uhapsio 510 Meksikanaca.
I preko jednog dnevno.
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Well over one per day.
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By 2019, this number was just eight.
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Do 2019. ovaj broj je bio samo osam.
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That's one every 43 days.
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To je jedan svaka 43 dana.
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It is a 98 percent reduction.
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Smanjenje od 98 posto.
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So where have all the Mexicans gone?
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Pa kuda su to svi Meksikanci otišli?
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The most significant change
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Najznačajnija promena
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is that the US began issuing
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je to da su SAD počele da izdaju
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hundreds of thousands of guest worker visas to Mexicans,
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stotine hiljada gostujućih radnih viza Meksikancima,
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so that they can come legally.
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kako bi mogli da dođu legalno.
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José Vásquez Cabrera was among the first Mexican guest workers
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Hose Vaskez Kabrera je bio među prvim gostujućim meksičkim radnicima
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to take advantage of this visa expansion.
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koji je iskoristio prednosti ovog proširenja vize.
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He told "The New York Times" that before his visa
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Rekao je "Njujork Tajmsu" da je pre njegove vize
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he'd made terrifying illegal border crossings,
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počinio zastrašujuće ilegalne prelaske preko granice,
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braving near deadly heat and the treachery of the landscape.
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hrabro protiv skoro smrtonosne vrućine i izdajničkog predela.
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One time, a snake killed a member of his group.
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Jedanput je zmija ubila člana njegove grupe.
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Thousands of other Mexicans also didn't make it,
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Hiljade drugih Meksikanaca takođe nisu uspeli,
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dying of dehydration in the deserts or drowning in the Rio Grande.
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umirući od dehidratacije u pustinjama ili utopivši se u Rio Grandeu.
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Millions more were chased down and arrested.
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Milioni drugih su uhvaćeni i uhapšeni.
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Guest worker visas have nearly ended this inhumane chaos.
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Gostujuće radne vize su zamalo okončale ovaj nehuman haos.
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As Vásquez Cabrera put it,
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Kao što je Vaskez Kabrera rekao:
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"I no longer have to risk my life
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"Više ne moram da rizikujem svoj život
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to support my family.
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da bih izdržavao svoju porodicu.
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And when I'm here, I don't have to live in hiding."
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I kada sam ovde, ne moram da se krijem."
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Guest worker visas actually reduced the number of illegal crossings
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Vize za gostujuće radnike su zapravo smanjile broj ilegalnih prelazaka
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more than the number of visas issued.
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više nego broj izdatih viza.
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Jose Bacilio, another Mexican guest worker, explained why
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Hose Basilio, drugi meksički gostujući radnik,
je objasnio zašto "Vašington Postu" u aprilu.
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to the "Washington Post" in April.
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He said, even though he hadn't received a visa this year,
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Rekao je da uprkos tome što nije dobio vizu ove godine,
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he wouldn't risk all of his future chances
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ne bi rizikovao sve svoje buduće prilike
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by crossing illegally.
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prelazeći ilegalno.
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This likely helps explain why
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Ovo verovatno objašnjava zašto je
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from 1996 to 2019
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od 1996. do 2019.
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for every guest worker admitted legally from Mexico,
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za svakog gostujućeg radnika primljenog legalno iz Meksika,
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there was a decline in two arrests of Mexicans crossing illegally.
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došlo do pada od dva hapšenja za one Meksikance koji su prelazili ilegalno.
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Now, it's true,
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Sada, tačno je da
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Mexican guest workers do some really tough jobs.
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meksički gostujući radnici rade neke izuzetno teške poslove.
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Picking fruit, cleaning crabs,
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Beru voće, čiste krabe,
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landscaping in a 100-degree heat.
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uređuju pejzaže na 40 stepeni.
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And some critics maintain that guest worker visas
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I neki kritičari smatraju da gostujuće radne vize
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are not actually humane
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zapravo nisu humane
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and that the workers are just abused slaves.
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i da su radnici samo zloupotrebljeni robovi.
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But Vásquez Cabrera thought a guest worker visa was liberating.
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Ali je Vaskez Kabrera smatrao da je viza gostujućeg radnika oslobađajuća.
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Not enslavement.
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Ne robija.
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And he, like nearly all other guest workers,
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I on je poput skoro svih ostalih gostujućih radnika,
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chose the legal path over the illegal one, repeatedly.
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odabrao legalan put umesto ilegalnog, iznova i iznova.
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The expansion of guest worker visas to Mexicans
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Proširenje vize gostujućeg radnika za Meksikance
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has been among the most significant humane changes
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je bilo među najznačajnijim humanim promenama
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in US immigration policy ever.
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ikada sprovedenim u američkoj imigracionoj politici.
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And that humane change
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I ta humana promena
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imposed order on chaos.
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je nametnula red haosu.
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So where does this leave Central Americans,
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Pa gde ovo ostavlja ljude iz Centralne Amerike
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like Juan Carlos?
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poput Huan Karlosa?
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Well, Central Americans received
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Pa ljudi iz Centralne Amerike su primili
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just three percent of the guest worker visas issued in 2019,
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samo tri posto viza gostujućih radnika izdatih u 2019,
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even as their share of border arrests has risen to 74 percent.
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čak iako je njihov udeo u graničnim hapšenjima skočio na 74%.
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The US issued just one guest worker visa to a Central American
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SAD su izdale samo jednu vizu gostujućeg radnika za ljude
iz Centralne Amerike
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for every 78 who crossed the border illegally in 2019.
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za svakih 78 koji su ilegalno prešli granicu 2019.
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So if they can't get their papers at home,
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Stoga ako ne mogu da dobiju papire kod kuće,
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many take their chances,
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mnogi rizikuju,
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coming up through Mexico to claim asylum at the border
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dolazeći preko Meksika, tražeći azil na granici ili prelaze ilegalno,
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or cross illegally,
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even if, like Juan Carlos, they prefer to come to work.
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čak iako poput Huan Karlosa više vole da dođu da rade.
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The US can do better.
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SAD mogu bolje da urade.
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It needs to create new guest worker visas
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Treba da stvore nove vize za gostujuće radnike,
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specifically for Central Americans.
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posebno za ljude iz Centralne Amerike.
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This would create an incentive for US businesses
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Ovo bi podstaklo američke poslodavce
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to seek out and hire Central Americans,
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da traže i zaposle ljude iz Centralne Amerike,
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paying for their flights to the United States,
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plaćajući njihove letove do SAD-a
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and diverting them from the illegal, dangerous trek north.
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i odvraćajući ih od ilegalne, opasne putanje ka severu.
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Central Americans could build flourishing lives at home,
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Ljudi iz Centralne Amerike bi mogli da stvore uspešne živote kod kuće
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without the need to seek asylum at the border
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bez potrebe da traže azil na granici
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or cross illegally,
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ili da prelaze ilegalno,
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freeing up an overwhelmed system.
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oslobađajući prezasićen sistem.
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Some people might say
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Neki ljudi bi mogli reći
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that letting the workers go back and forth
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da puštanje radnika da idu tamo-ovamo
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will never work in Central America
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nikada neće funkcionisati u Centralnoj Americi
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where violence is so high.
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gde je velika stopa nasilja.
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But again, it worked in Mexico,
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Ali opet, uspelo je u Meksiku,
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even as Mexico's murder rate more than tripled over the last decade,
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čak dok se stopa ubistava u Meksiku utrostručila u prethodnoj deceniji
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to a level higher than much of Central America.
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do višeg nivoa nego u većini Centralne Amerike.
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And it would work for Juan Carlos,
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I odgovaralo bi Huan Karlosu,
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who said, despite the threats
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koji je rekao da uprkos pretnjama
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he only wants to live in the United States temporarily,
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bi samo želeo da živi u Sjedinjenim Državama privremeno,
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to make enough money
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kako bi zaradio dovoljno novca
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to sustain his family in their new home.
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da izdržava svoju porodicu u njihovom novom domu.
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He even suggested that a guest worker program
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Čak je predložio da bi program gostujućeg radnika bio jedna od najboljih stvari
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would be one of the best things to help Hondurans like him.
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da se pomogne ljudima iz Hondurasa poput njega.
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Cintia, a 29-year-old single mother of three from Honduras,
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Sintija, 29-godišnja samohrana majka troje dece iz Hondurasa,
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seems to agree.
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se izgleda slaže.
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She told the "Wall Street Journal" that she came for a job
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Ona je rekla "Vol Strit Žurnalu" da je došla zbog posla,
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to support her kids and her mom.
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kako bi izdržavala svoju decu i majku.
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Surveys of Central Americans traveling through Mexico,
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Ankete ljudi iz Centralne Amerike koji su putovali kroz Meksiko,
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by the College of the Northern Border in Mexico,
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koje je sproveo koledž "Severna Granica" iz Meksika,
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confirm that Juan and Cintia are the norm.
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potvrđuju da su Huan i Sintija norma.
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Most, not all, but most do come for jobs,
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Većina, ne svi, ali većina zaista dolazi zbog poslova,
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even if, like the Riveras,
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čak iako, poput Rivera,
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they may also face some real threats at home.
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se i suočavaju sa ozbiljnim pretnjama kod kuće.
Koliko bi minimalno plaćen posao pomogao čoveku iz Hondurasa,
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How much would a low-wage job help
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09:22
a Honduran, like Juan or Cintia?
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poput Huana ili Sintije?
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Hondurans like them make as much
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Ljudi iz Hondurasa poput njih zarade
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in one month in the United States
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za mesec dana u Americi
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as they do in an entire year working in Honduras.
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koliko bi zaradili radeći čitave godine u Hondurasu.
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A few years' work in the United States
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Nekoliko godina rada u Americi
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can propel a Central American into its upper middle class
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bi mogle da pokrenu osobu iz Centralne Amerike u višu srednju klasu
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where safety is easier to come by.
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gde je lakše susresti se sa bezbednošću.
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What Central Americans lack is not the desire to work.
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Ono što nedostaje ljudima iz Centalne Amerike nije želja za radom.
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Not the desire to contribute to the US economy,
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Nije želja da doprinesu američkoj ekonomiji,
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to contribute to the lives of Americans.
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da doprinesu životima Amerikanaca.
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What Central Americans lack is a legal alternative to asylum.
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Ono što im nedostaje je legalna alternativa za azil.
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To be able to do so legally.
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Mogućnost da to urade legalnim putem.
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Of course, a new guest worker program
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Naravno da novi program gostujućeg radnika
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will not resolve 100 percent of this complex phenomenon.
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neće 100 posto rešiti ovaj kompleksni fenomen.
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Many asylum seekers will still need to seek safety
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Mnogi azilanti će morati i dalje da traže bezbednost
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at the US border.
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na američkoj granici.
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But with the flows reduced,
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Ali sa smanjenim protokom,
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we can more easily work out ways to deal with them humanely.
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lakše možemo utvrditi načine da se da se nosimo s njima humano.
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But ultimately,
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Ali naposletku,
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no single policy has proven to do more
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nijedna jedinstvena politika nije dokazala da je uradila više
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to create an immigration system that is both humane
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kako bi kreirala imigracioni sistem koji je i human i uredan
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and orderly
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than to let the workers come legally.
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nego da se radnicima dozvoli legalan dolazak.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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