How guest worker visas could transform the US immigration system | David J. Bier

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譯者: Yangjun Liu 審譯者: Helen Chang
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By October 2018,
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到 2018 年 10 月,
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Juan Carlos Rivera could no longer afford
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華安·卡羅斯·雷維拉就再也負擔不起
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to live in his home in Copan, Honduras.
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住在他位於宏都拉斯科潘的家。
00:22
As the "Dallas Morning News" reported,
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據《達拉斯晨報》報導,一個幫派
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a gang was taking 10 percent of his earnings from his barber shop.
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索取他理髮廳的一成營收。
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His wife was assaulted going to her pre-K teaching job.
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他的妻子在前往 幼稚園工作時被攻擊。
00:33
And they were concerned about the safety of their young daughter.
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他們很擔心小女兒的安全。
00:36
What could they do?
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他們能怎麼辦?
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Run away?
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逃走?
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Seek asylum in another country?
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到其他國家尋求庇護?
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They didn't want to do that.
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他們不想要那麼做。
00:44
They just wanted to live in their country safely.
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他們只想要安全地 住在自己的國家裡。
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But their options were limited.
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但他們的選項有限。
00:49
So that month,
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所以,在那個月,
00:51
Juan Carlos moved his family to a safer location
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華安·卡羅斯把一家人 搬到更安全的地方,
00:54
while he joined a group of migrants on the long and perilous journey
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而他則加入一群移民, 踏上漫長又危險的旅程,
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from Central America
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從中美洲
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to a job a family member said was open for him in the United States.
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到美國,因為一位親人說
在那裡有個工作在等著他。
01:07
By now we're all familiar with what awaited them
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現在我們都很清楚 在美墨邊界等著他的是什麼:
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at the US-Mexico border.
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01:12
The harsher and harsher penalties doled out to those crossing there.
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針對跨越美墨邊界的人 越來越嚴厲的處罰。
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The criminal prosecutions for crossing illegally.
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非法跨越邊界的刑事訴訟。
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The inhumane detention.
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不人道的拘留。
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And most terribly, separation of families.
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最糟糕的是拆散家庭。
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I'm here to tell you that not only is this treatment wrong,
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我來這裡是要告訴大家, 這種對待方式不僅是錯的,
01:29
it's unnecessary.
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也是不必要的。
01:31
This belief that the only way to maintain order
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這種相信只有用不人道的手段
才能維持秩序的想法
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is with inhumane means
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01:38
is inaccurate.
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是不對的。
01:40
And in fact, the opposite is true.
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事實上,正好相反。
01:43
Only a humane system will create order at the border.
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只有人道的制度
才能在邊界建立秩序。
01:51
When safe, orderly, legal travel to the United States is available,
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如果有安全、有秩序、 合法的通路可以到美國,
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very few people choose travel that is unsafe,
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就會很少有人選擇用不安全、
混亂,或非法的通路。
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disorderly or illegal.
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02:03
Now, I appreciate the idea
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我知道合法移民
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that legal immigration could just resolve the border crisis
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能夠解決邊界危機的想法
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might sound a bit fanciful.
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可能聽起來有點像是幻想。
02:11
But here is the good news:
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但,我有好消息:
02:13
We have done this before.
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我們以前做過。
02:17
I've been working on immigration for years
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多年來我一直致力於移民,
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at the Cato Institute
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我待過卡托研究所
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and other think tanks in Washington DC
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以及華盛頓特區的其他智囊團,
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and as the senior policy adviser for a republican member of Congress,
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也擔任過一名國會共和黨 議員的資深政策顧問,
02:27
negotiating bipartisan immigration reform.
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協商讓兩黨共同支持移民改革。
02:31
And I've seen firsthand
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我曾經親眼見過
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how America has implemented a system of humane order at the border
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美國如何在美墨邊界
實施人道秩序的制度。
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for Mexico.
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02:41
It's called a guest worker program.
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它叫做外籍勞工專案。
02:44
And here's the even better news.
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還有更好的消息。
02:46
We can replicate this success for Central America.
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我們可以把這項成功 用在中美洲問題上。
02:51
Of course, some people
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當然,有些人
02:53
will still need to seek asylum at the border.
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仍然會需要在邊界尋求庇護。
02:56
But to understand how successful
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但要了解這專案對於華安·卡羅斯
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this could be for immigrants like Juan Carlos,
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這種移民而言能有多成功,
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understand that until recently,
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了解直到最近,
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nearly every immigrant arrested by Border Patrol was Mexican.
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幾乎所有被邊境巡邏隊 逮捕的移民都是墨西哥人。
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In 1986,
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1986 年,
03:16
each Border Patrol agent arrested 510 Mexicans.
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平均每位邊境巡邏隊隊員 逮捕了五百一十位墨西哥人。
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Well over one per day.
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絕對超過一天一名。
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By 2019, this number was just eight.
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到 2019 年,這個數字降至八名。
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That's one every 43 days.
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平均四十三天才一名。
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It is a 98 percent reduction.
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減少了 98%。
03:34
So where have all the Mexicans gone?
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那麼,這些墨西哥人跑哪兒去了?
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The most significant change
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最重大的改變
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is that the US began issuing
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是美國開始核發
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hundreds of thousands of guest worker visas to Mexicans,
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數十萬張外籍勞工簽證給墨西哥人,
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so that they can come legally.
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讓他們能合法入境。
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José Vásquez Cabrera was among the first Mexican guest workers
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荷西·瓦斯克斯·卡布瑞拉就是
這次擴大簽證核發後 第一批受益的墨西哥外籍勞工。
03:54
to take advantage of this visa expansion.
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He told "The New York Times" that before his visa
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他告訴《紐約時報》, 在他拿到簽證之前,
04:01
he'd made terrifying illegal border crossings,
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他曾經嘗試過可怕的非法入境方式,
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braving near deadly heat and the treachery of the landscape.
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要勇敢面對致命的高溫 和變幻莫測的地景。
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One time, a snake killed a member of his group.
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有一次,他團中有一個人被蛇咬死。
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Thousands of other Mexicans also didn't make it,
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另外還有數千名墨西哥人沒成功,
04:20
dying of dehydration in the deserts or drowning in the Rio Grande.
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在沙漠脫水而死, 或是在格蘭河裡溺死。
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Millions more were chased down and arrested.
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還有數百萬人被追捕。
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Guest worker visas have nearly ended this inhumane chaos.
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外籍工作簽證幾乎解決了 這不人道的混亂。
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As Vásquez Cabrera put it,
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借用瓦斯克斯·卡布瑞拉的說法,
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"I no longer have to risk my life
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「我不再需要冒生命危險
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to support my family.
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來扶養我的家庭。
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And when I'm here, I don't have to live in hiding."
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當我在這裡時, 我不需要躲躲藏藏。」
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Guest worker visas actually reduced the number of illegal crossings
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外籍勞工簽證確實減少了 非法跨越邊界的人數,
04:49
more than the number of visas issued.
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且減少的數目比 核發的簽證數目還多。
04:53
Jose Bacilio, another Mexican guest worker, explained why
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荷西·巴西里歐是 另一位墨西哥外籍勞工,
他在四月向《華盛頓郵報》解釋原因。
04:57
to the "Washington Post" in April.
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He said, even though he hadn't received a visa this year,
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他說,雖然今年他沒有拿到簽證,
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he wouldn't risk all of his future chances
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他不會賭上他未來的所有機會
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by crossing illegally.
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來非法入境。
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This likely helps explain why
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這原因或可有助於解釋
為什麼從 1996 年到 2019 年
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from 1996 to 2019
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for every guest worker admitted legally from Mexico,
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每當有一位外籍勞工 合法獲准從墨西哥進入美國,
05:22
there was a decline in two arrests of Mexicans crossing illegally.
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非法入境而被逮捕的 墨西哥人數目就會少兩名。
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Now, it's true,
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的確,
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Mexican guest workers do some really tough jobs.
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墨西哥外籍勞工做的是 非常辛苦的工作。
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Picking fruit, cleaning crabs,
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採集水果、清理螃蟹、
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landscaping in a 100-degree heat.
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在攝氏三十七度高溫下造園。
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And some critics maintain that guest worker visas
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仍然有一些人批評外籍勞工簽證
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are not actually humane
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其實並不人道,
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and that the workers are just abused slaves.
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勞工只是被虐待的奴隸。
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But Vásquez Cabrera thought a guest worker visa was liberating.
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但瓦斯克斯·卡布瑞拉認為,
拿到外籍勞工簽證是豁免,
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Not enslavement.
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不是奴役。
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And he, like nearly all other guest workers,
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幾乎所有的外籍勞工和他一樣,
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chose the legal path over the illegal one, repeatedly.
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選擇合法途徑,而非非法途徑。
一而再再而三。
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The expansion of guest worker visas to Mexicans
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擴大核准外籍勞工簽證給墨西哥人
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has been among the most significant humane changes
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一直被視為是美國移民政策中
最重要的人道改變之一。
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in US immigration policy ever.
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06:20
And that humane change
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這種人道改變,
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imposed order on chaos.
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在混亂中建立了秩序。
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So where does this leave Central Americans,
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那麼,華安·卡羅斯這些 中美洲人的處境會變得如何?
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like Juan Carlos?
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06:34
Well, Central Americans received
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2019 年核發的外籍勞工簽證中,
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just three percent of the guest worker visas issued in 2019,
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只有 3% 發給中美洲人,
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even as their share of border arrests has risen to 74 percent.
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但在邊界被逮捕的人當中, 中美洲人的人數上升到 74%。
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The US issued just one guest worker visa to a Central American
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2019 年,每有七十八名 中美洲人非法入境,
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for every 78 who crossed the border illegally in 2019.
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才有一名中美洲人得到 美國核發的外籍勞工簽證。
07:01
So if they can't get their papers at home,
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如果他們在家鄉拿不到文件,
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many take their chances,
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許多人會選擇賭賭看,
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coming up through Mexico to claim asylum at the border
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通過墨西哥來到美墨邊界, 要求庇護或非法入境,
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or cross illegally,
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07:12
even if, like Juan Carlos, they prefer to come to work.
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即使他們像華安·卡羅斯那樣 偏好來工作,仍會選擇一賭。
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The US can do better.
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美國可以做得更好。
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It needs to create new guest worker visas
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美國需要專門為中美洲人
創造新的外籍勞工簽證。
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specifically for Central Americans.
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This would create an incentive for US businesses
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這會鼓勵美國企業
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to seek out and hire Central Americans,
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去找到並僱用中美洲人,
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paying for their flights to the United States,
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幫他們付機票錢,讓他們來美國,
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and diverting them from the illegal, dangerous trek north.
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讓他們不用向北 走上非法、危險的旅程。
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Central Americans could build flourishing lives at home,
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中美洲人可以在家鄉 建立繁榮的生活,
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without the need to seek asylum at the border
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不需要到邊界尋求庇護 或非法跨越邊界,
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or cross illegally,
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07:48
freeing up an overwhelmed system.
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讓已經招架不住的制度能喘口氣。
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Some people might say
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有些人可能會說,
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that letting the workers go back and forth
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讓勞工來來回回的方式
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will never work in Central America
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在中美洲是行不通的,
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where violence is so high.
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在那裡暴力太猖獗。
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But again, it worked in Mexico,
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但再說一次,這在墨西哥行得通,
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even as Mexico's murder rate more than tripled over the last decade,
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即使墨西哥的謀殺率 在過去十年增加到近三倍,
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to a level higher than much of Central America.
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比中美洲大部分地區都高。
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And it would work for Juan Carlos,
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對華安·卡羅斯而言行得通,
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who said, despite the threats
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他說,儘管家鄉有威脅存在,
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he only wants to live in the United States temporarily,
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他也只想暫時住在美國,
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to make enough money
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賺足夠的錢讓家人繼續住在新家。
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to sustain his family in their new home.
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08:29
He even suggested that a guest worker program
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他甚至說,外籍勞工專案
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would be one of the best things to help Hondurans like him.
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是對他這種宏都拉斯人 而言最棒的幫助之一。
08:38
Cintia, a 29-year-old single mother of three from Honduras,
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辛蒂雅二十九歲,
是來自宏都拉斯 三個孩子的單親媽媽,
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seems to agree.
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她似乎也認同。
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She told the "Wall Street Journal" that she came for a job
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她告訴《華爾街日報》 她來找一份工作,
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to support her kids and her mom.
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以扶養她的孩子和母親。
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Surveys of Central Americans traveling through Mexico,
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墨西哥的北方邊界大學針對
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by the College of the Northern Border in Mexico,
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穿越墨西哥的中美洲人進行調查,
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confirm that Juan and Cintia are the norm.
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確認了華安及辛蒂雅的情況是常態。
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Most, not all, but most do come for jobs,
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大部分人,並非全部, 但大部分人是為了工作而來,
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even if, like the Riveras,
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即使是像雷維拉這樣
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they may also face some real threats at home.
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在家鄉可能要面對真實威脅的人。
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How much would a low-wage job help
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低薪工作對於華安和辛蒂雅
這樣的宏都拉斯人有多大的幫助?
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a Honduran, like Juan or Cintia?
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Hondurans like them make as much
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他們這樣的宏都拉斯人,
在美國工作一個月賺到的錢
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in one month in the United States
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09:32
as they do in an entire year working in Honduras.
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等同於在宏都拉斯 工作一年賺到的錢。
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A few years' work in the United States
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中美洲人在美國工作幾年,
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can propel a Central American into its upper middle class
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就能讓自己推進到中上階層,
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where safety is easier to come by.
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也比較容易得到安全。
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What Central Americans lack is not the desire to work.
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中美洲人不缺工作的慾望,
09:53
Not the desire to contribute to the US economy,
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不缺貢獻美國經濟
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to contribute to the lives of Americans.
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和貢獻美國人生活的慾望。
10:00
What Central Americans lack is a legal alternative to asylum.
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中美洲人欠缺的是 取代庇護的合法替代方案。
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To be able to do so legally.
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讓他們走合法管道。
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Of course, a new guest worker program
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當然,新的外籍勞工專案
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will not resolve 100 percent of this complex phenomenon.
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不能完全解決這個複雜的現象。
10:18
Many asylum seekers will still need to seek safety
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許多尋求庇護的人 仍需要到美國邊界尋求安全。
10:22
at the US border.
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But with the flows reduced,
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但一旦人數減少,
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we can more easily work out ways to deal with them humanely.
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我們就更容易想辦法 用人道的方式來處理他們。
10:31
But ultimately,
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但最終,
10:33
no single policy has proven to do more
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若要創建一個既人道
又有秩序的移民制度,
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to create an immigration system that is both humane
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已證明最好的方法
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and orderly
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than to let the workers come legally.
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就是讓勞工合法進入。
10:49
Thank you.
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謝謝。
10:50
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