The age of genetic wonder | Juan Enriquez

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Prevodilac: Kristina Radosavljević Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
00:13
So let me with start with Roy Amara.
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Dozvolite mi da počnem sa Rojom Amarom.
00:16
Roy's argument is that most new technologies tend to be overestimated
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Roj tvrdi da je većina novih tehnoloških dostignuća precenjena
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in their impact to begin with,
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na početku u smislu njihovog uticaja,
00:22
and then they get underestimated in the long term
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a onda dugoročno bivaju potcenjeni
zato što se naviknemo na njih.
00:25
because we get used to them.
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00:26
These really are days of miracle and wonder.
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Ovo je stvarno doba čuda.
00:29
You remember that wonderful song by Paul Simon?
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Sećate li se one divne pesme Pola Sajmona?
00:32
There were two lines in it.
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Imala je dva stiha.
00:33
So what was it that was considered miraculous back then?
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Šta se to u ono vreme smatralo čudesnim?
00:38
Slowing down things -- slow motion --
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Usporavanje stvari - usporen film,
00:41
and the long-distance call.
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i međunarodni telefonski pozivi.
00:43
Because, of course, you used to get interrupted by operators
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Zato što ste, naravno, navikli da vas operater prekida
00:46
who'd tell you, "Long distance calling. Do you want to hang up?"
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sa pitanjem: „Međunarodni poziv. Da li želite da prekinete?”
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And now we think nothing of calling all over the world.
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A sada nam zvanje po celom svetu ne predstavlja ništa.
00:53
Well, something similar may be happening
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Nešto slično možda se dešava
00:55
with reading and programming life.
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i sa očitavanjem i programiranjem života.
00:58
But before I unpack that,
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No, pre nego što otkrijem to,
01:01
let's just talk about telescopes.
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hajde da pričamo o teleskopima.
01:04
Telescopes were overestimated originally in their impact.
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Teleskopi su na početku bili precenjeni u pogledu njihovog uticaja.
01:09
This is one of Galileo's early models.
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Ovo je jedan od Galilejovih ranih modela.
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People thought it was just going to ruin all religion.
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Ljudi su mislili da će uništiti sve religije.
01:15
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:18
So we're not paying that much attention to telescopes.
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Dakle, ne obraćamo mnogo pažnju na teleskope.
01:22
But, of course, telescopes launched 10 years ago, as you just heard,
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Naravno, teleskopi koji su proizvedeni pre deset godina, kao što ste čuli,
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could take this Volkswagen, fly it to the moon,
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mogu na ovom folksvagenu koji je odleteo do Meseca,
01:29
and you could see the lights on that Volkswagen light up on the moon.
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videti farove kada se upale na Mesecu.
01:36
And that's the kind of resolution power that allowed you to see
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To je rezolucija koja vam dozvoljava da vidite
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little specks of dust floating around distant suns.
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male čestice prašine koje plutaju oko udaljenih sunca.
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Imagine for a second that this was a sun a billion light years away,
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Zamislite na trenutak da je ovo sunce udaljeno milijardu svetlosnih godina
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and you had a little speck of dust that came in front of it.
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i vidite male čestice prašine kako dolaze ispred njega.
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That's what detecting an exoplanet is like.
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Tako izgleda otkrivanje egzoplanete.
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And the cool thing is, the telescopes that are now being launched
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Dobra stvar kod ovih novih teleskopa
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would allow you to see a single candle lit on the moon.
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je što vam dozvoljavaju da vidite i sveću zapaljenu na mesecu.
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And if you separated it by one plate,
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Ako napravite razdvajanje jednom pločom,
02:07
you could see two candles separately at that distance.
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videćete dve odvojene sveće na toj udaljenosti.
02:11
And that's the kind of resolution that you need
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To je rezolucija koja vam je potrebna
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to begin to image that little speck of dust
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da vidite te male čestice prašine
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as it comes around the sun
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kako kruže oko sunca
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and see if it has a blue-green signature.
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i da vidite imaju li plavo-zeleni obris.
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And if it does have a blue-green signature,
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Ako imaju plavo-zeleni obris,
to znači da je život svuda u svemiru.
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it means that life is common in the universe.
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02:25
The first time you ever see a blue-green signature on a distant planet,
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Prvi put kada vidite plavo-zeleni obris na udaljenoj planeti,
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it means there's photosynthesis there,
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to znači da tamo postoji fotosinteza,
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there's water there,
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da tamo ima vode,
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and the chances that you saw the only other planet with photosynthesis
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a šansa da vidite samo jednu planetu sa fotosintezom
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are about zero.
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je jednaka nuli.
02:39
And that's a calendar-changing event.
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A to je događaj koji menja sve.
02:41
There's a before and after we were alone in the universe:
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Postoji vreme pre i vreme nakon što smo mislili da smo sami u svemiru;
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forget about the discovery of whatever continent.
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zaboravite na otkrića bilo kog kontinenta.
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So as you're thinking about this,
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Dok razmišljate o ovom,
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we're now beginning to be able to image most of the universe.
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sada smo u mogućnosti da vidimo veći deo svemira.
To jeste vreme čuda,
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And that is a time of miracle and wonder.
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02:55
And we kind of take that for granted.
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a mi to olako prihvatamo.
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Something similar is happening in life.
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Nešto slično se dešava i sa životom.
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So we're hearing about life in these little bits and pieces.
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Slušamo o životu u tim malim delovima i komadićima,
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We hear about CRISPR, and we hear about this technology,
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slušamo o CRISPR-u,
i slušamo o ovoj i onoj tehnologiji.
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and we hear about this technology.
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Ali suština je da je život ispao kod.
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But the bottom line on life is that life turns out to be code.
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03:13
And life as code is a really important concept because it means,
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A posmatranje života kroz kod je veoma značajan koncept,
zato što to znači da, kao što pišete rečenice
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just in the same way as you can write a sentence
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03:21
in English or in French or Chinese,
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na engleskom, francuskom ili kineskom jeziku,
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just in the same way as you can copy a sentence,
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baš kao što možete prepisati rečenicu,
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just in the same way as you can edit a sentence,
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isto kao što možete izmeniti rečenicu,
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just in the same way as you can print a sentence,
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na potpuno isti način kao što štampate rečenice,
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you're beginning to be able to do that with life.
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sada postaje moguće da isto to radite sa životom.
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It means that we're beginning to learn how to read this language.
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To znači da počinjemo da učimo kako se čita ovaj jezik.
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And this, of course, is the language that is used by this orange.
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A to je jezik koji koristi ova narandža.
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So how does this orange execute code?
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Kako ova narandža izvršava kod?
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It doesn't do it in ones and zeroes like a computer does.
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Ne radi to kao kompjuteri sa jedinicama i nulama.
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It sits on a tree, and one day it does:
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Visi na drvetu i jednog dana uradi -
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plop!
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plop!
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And that means: execute.
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To znači - izvršiti.
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AATCAAG: make me a little root.
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AATCAAG: napravi mi mali koren.
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TCGACC: make me a little stem.
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TCGACC: napravi mi malu stabljiku.
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GAC: make me some leaves. AGC: make me some flowers.
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GAC: napravi mi lišća. AGC: napravi mi cvetove.
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And then GCAA: make me some more oranges.
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i onda GCAA: napravi mi još narandži.
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If I edit a sentence in English on a word processor,
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Ako stavim rečenicu na engleskom u procesor za reči,
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then what happens is you can go from this word to that word.
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onda možete da se prebacujete sa jedne reči na drugu.
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If I edit something in this orange
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Ako nešto dodam ovoj narandži
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and put in GCAAC, using CRISPR or something else that you've heard of,
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i stavim GCAAC, koristeći CRISPR ili nešto drugo za šta ste čuli,
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then this orange becomes a lemon,
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onda ova narandža postaje limun,
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or it becomes a grapefruit,
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ili grejpfrut,
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or it becomes a tangerine.
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ili mandarina.
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And if I edit one in a thousand letters,
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A ako promenim jedno od hiljadu slova,
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you become the person sitting next to you today.
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postaćete osoba koja danas sedi pored vas.
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Be more careful where you sit.
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Budite oprezniji gde sedate.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:45
What's happening on this stuff is it was really expensive to begin with.
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Stvar je u tome da je na početku ovo bio veoma skup proces.
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It was like long-distance calls.
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Kao nekada međunarodni pozivi.
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But the cost of this is dropping 50 percent faster than Moore's law.
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Ali cena ovoga pada 50 procenata brže od Murovog zakona.
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The first $200 full genome was announced yesterday by Veritas.
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Kompanija Veritas je juče najavila prvi potpuni genom od 200 dolara.
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And so as you're looking at these systems,
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Dok gledate ove sisteme, mislite:
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it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, and then it does.
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ovo nije važno, ni ovo, ni ovo nije važno - a ipak jeste.
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So let me just give you the map view of this stuff.
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Dozvolite da vam pokažem mapu ovoga.
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This is a big discovery.
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Ovo je veliko otkriće.
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There's 23 chromosomes.
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Tu su 23 hromozoma.
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Cool.
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Kul.
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Let's now start using a telescope version, but instead of using a telescope,
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Hajde sada da iskoristimo teleskopski pogled,
ali umesto teleskopa, koristićemo mikroskop da zumiramo
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let's use a microscope to zoom in
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on the inferior of those chromosomes,
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površinu podređene među hromozomima
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which is the Y chromosome.
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odnosno, hromozom Y.
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It's a third the size of the X. It's recessive and mutant.
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On je veličine trećine hromozoma X, recesivan i mutiran.
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But hey,
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Ali ipak,
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just a male.
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to je samo muškarac.
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And as you're looking at this stuff,
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Dok posmatrate ovo,
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here's kind of a country view
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evo neke vrste širokog pogleda
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at a 400 base pair resolution level,
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sa rezolucijom od 400 baznih parova,
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and then you zoom in to 550, and then you zoom in to 850,
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zatim zumirate na 550, zatim zumirate na 850,
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and you can begin to identify more and more genes as you zoom in.
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i sa svakim zumiranjem možete da identifikujete sve više i više gena.
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Then you zoom in to the state level,
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Onda još zumirate
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and you can begin to tell who's got leukemia,
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i možete videti ko ima leukemiju,
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how did they get leukemia, what kind of leukemia do they have,
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kako su dobili leukemiju, koju vrstu leukemije imaju,
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what shifted from what place to what place.
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šta se promenilo sa jednog na drugo mesto.
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And then you zoom in to the Google street view level.
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Onda zumirate na nivo Guglovog uličnog pogleda.
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So this is what happens if you have colorectal cancer
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Evo šta se dešava ako imate rak debelog creva,
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for a very specific patient on the letter-by-letter resolution.
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kod konkretnog pacijenta u rezoluciji slovo po slovo.
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So what we're doing in this stuff is we're gathering information
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Ono što mi ovde radimo je skupljanje informacija
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and just generating enormous amounts of information.
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i generisanje ogromne količine istih.
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This is one of the largest databases on the planet
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To je jedna od najvećih baza podataka na zemlji
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and it's growing faster than we can build computers to store it.
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i raste brže nego što možemo napraviti kompjutere za njeno skladištenje.
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You can create some incredible maps with this stuff.
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Sa ovim možete napraviti neverovatne mape.
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You want to understand the plague and why one plague is bubonic
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Želite da razumete kugu, zašto je jedna bubonske vrste,
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and the other one is a different kind of plague
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druga je drugačije vrste
a i treća je drugačija vrsta kuge?
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and the other one is a different kind of plague?
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Evo mape kuge.
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Well, here's a map of the plague.
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Some are absolutely deadly to humans,
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Neke su apsolutno smrtonosne za ljude,
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some are not.
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dok druge nisu.
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And note, by the way, as you go to the bottom of this,
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Obratite pažnju pri kraju dok gledate ovo,
kako izgleda u poređenju sa tuberkulozom?
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how does it compare to tuberculosis?
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So this is the difference between tuberculosis and various kinds of plagues,
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Ovo je razlika između tuberkuloze i raznih vrsta kuge.
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and you can play detective with this stuff,
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Možete se igrati detektiva,
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because you can take a very specific kind of cholera
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zato što možete uzeti veoma specifičnu vrstu kolere
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that affected Haiti,
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koja je pogodila Haiti,
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and you can look at which country it came from,
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i možete videti iz koje zemlje je došla,
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which region it came from,
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iz kog regiona,
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and probably which soldier took that from that African country to Haiti.
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i verovatno koji ju je vojnik doneo iz te afričke zemlje na Haiti.
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Zoom out.
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Smanjivanje rezolucije.
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It's not just zooming in.
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Ne radi se samo povećanje.
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This is one of the coolest maps ever done by human beings.
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Ovo je jedna od najboljih mapa koje je čovek ikada napravio.
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What they've done is taken all the genetic information they have
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Oni su prikupili sve genetičke informacije koje su imali
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about all the species,
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o svim vrstama,
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and they've put a tree of life on a single page
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i napravili drvo života na jednoj stranici
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that you can zoom in and out of.
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koju možete smanjivati ili povećavati.
07:34
So this is what came first, how did it diversify, how did it branch,
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Ovo nam daje pregled šta je nastalo prvo, kako je postalo različito, kako se granalo
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how large is that genome,
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i koliko je velik taj genom,
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on a single page.
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sve na jednoj stranici.
07:41
It's kind of the universe of life on Earth,
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To je neka vrsta svemira života na zemlji,
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and it's being constantly updated and completed.
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koji se neprekidno dopunjava i dovršava.
07:46
And so as you're looking at this stuff,
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Dok gledate sve ovo,
07:48
the really important change is the old biology used to be reactive.
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jako bitna promena je ta da je stara biologija bila reaktivna.
07:52
You used to have a lot of biologists that had microscopes,
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Imali ste puno biologa sa mikroskopima,
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and they had magnifying glasses and they were out observing animals.
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imali su lupe, šetali su naokolo i posmatrali životinje.
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The new biology is proactive.
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Nova biologija je proaktivna.
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You don't just observe stuff, you make stuff.
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Više niste samo posmatrač, sada pravite nešto.
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And that's a really big change
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To je zaista velika promena
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because it allows us to do things like this.
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zato što nam ona omogućava da radimo stvari kao što je ova.
08:10
And I know you're really excited by this picture.
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Znam da ste uzbuđeni zbog ove slike.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:14
It only took us four years and 40 million dollars
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Trebalo nam je samo četiri godine i 40 miliona dolara
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to be able to take this picture.
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da bismo napravili ovu fotografiju.
08:18
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:19
And what we did
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A ono što smo uradili
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is we took the full gene code out of a cell --
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je da smo uzeli celokupni kod gena iz ćelije -
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not a gene, not two genes, the full gene code out of a cell --
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ne jedan gen, ne dva gena, ceo genetski kod iz ćelije -
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built a completely new gene code,
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napravili potpuno novi genetski kod,
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inserted it into the cell,
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utisnuli ga u ćeliju,
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figured out a way to have the cell execute that code
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našli način da ćelija izvrši taj kod
08:37
and built a completely new species.
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i izgradili potpuno novu vrstu.
08:40
So this is the world's first synthetic life form.
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Ovo je prvi sintetički oblik života na svetu.
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And so what do you do with this stuff?
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I šta raditi sa tim?
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Well, this stuff is going to change the world.
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Ovo je nešto što će promeniti svet.
08:51
Let me give you three short-term trends
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Reći ću vam tri kratkoročna trenda
08:53
in terms of how it's going to change the world.
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u smislu kako će promeniti svet.
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The first is we're going to see a new industrial revolution.
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Prvo, videćemo novu industrijsku revoluciju.
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And I actually mean that literally.
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I to mislim bukvalno.
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So in the same way as Switzerland and Germany and Britain
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Na isti način na koji su Švajcarska, Nemačka i Velika Britanija
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changed the world with machines like the one you see in this lobby,
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promenile svet mašinama sličnim onima koje vidite ovde u holu,
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created power --
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i stvorile moć -
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in the same way CERN is changing the world,
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na isti način kao što CERN menja svet,
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using new instruments and our concept of the universe --
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koristeći nove instrumente i naš koncept svemira -
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programmable life forms are also going to change the world
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životni oblici koje možemo programirati takođe će promeniti svet,
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because once you can program cells
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jer kada možete da programirate ćeliju
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in the same way as you program your computer chip,
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isto kao što programirate kompjuterski čip,
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then you can make almost anything.
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tada možete napraviti bilo šta.
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So your computer chip can produce photographs,
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Vaš kompjuterski čip može praviti fotografije,
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can produce music, can produce film,
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može praviti muziku ili film,
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can produce love letters, can produce spreadsheets.
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može praviti ljubavna pisma ili tabele.
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It's just ones and zeroes flying through there.
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Sve to samo sa nulama i jedinicama koje proleću tamo.
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If you can flow ATCGs through cells,
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Ako ATCG-ovi mogu da rade u ćelijama
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then this software makes its own hardware,
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onda ovaj softver sam sebi pravi hardver,
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which means it scales very quickly.
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što znači da se razvija veoma brzo.
09:52
No matter what happens,
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Bez obzira šta se desilo,
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if you leave your cell phone by your bedside,
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ako ostavite mobilni telefon pored kreveta,
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you will not have a billion cell phones in the morning.
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nećete imati milijardu telefona ujutro.
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But if you do that with living organisms,
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Ali ako to uradite sa živim organizmom,
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you can make this stuff at a very large scale.
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možete napraviti nešto velikih proporcija.
10:09
One of the things you can do is you can start producing
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Jedna od stvari koje možete da uradite je da počnete proizvodnju
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close to carbon-neutral fuels
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nečega sličnog ugljenično neutralnom gorivu
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on a commercial scale by 2025,
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za komercijalnu upotrebu do 2025. godine,
10:18
which we're doing with Exxon.
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što radimo sa kompanijom „Ekson“.
10:20
But you can also substitute for agricultural lands.
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Možete to koristiti kao zamenu za obradivo zemljište.
10:23
Instead of having 100 hectares to make oils or to make proteins,
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Umesto da imate 100 hektara da biste proizveli ulje ili proteine,
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you can make it in these vats
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možete ih praviti u ovim bazenima
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at 10 or 100 times the productivity per hectare.
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sa 10 ili 100 puta većom produktivnosti po hektaru.
10:33
Or you can store information, or you can make all the world's vaccines
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Možete skladištiti informacije ili proizvesti sve vakcine na svetu
10:36
in those three vats.
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u ova tri bazena.
10:39
Or you can store most of the information that's held at CERN in those three vats.
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Ili možete uskladištiti većinu informacija koja se drži u CERN-u.
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DNA is a really powerful information storage device.
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DNK je zaista veoma moćna naprava za skladištenje informacija.
10:48
Second turn:
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Drugi preokret:
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you're beginning to see the rise of theoretical biology.
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počinjete da uviđate uspon teorijske biologije.
10:54
So, medical school departments are one of the most conservative places on earth.
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Odeljenja medicinskih škola su među najkonzervativnijim mestima na zemlji.
10:58
The way they teach anatomy is similar to the way they taught anatomy
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Način na koji predaju anatomiju je sličan načinu na koji su je predavali
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100 years ago.
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pre 100 godina.
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"Welcome, student. Here's your cadaver."
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„Dobrodošli, studenti. Evo vam leš.”
11:06
One of the things medical schools are not good at is creating new departments,
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Ono u čemu medicinske škole nisu vične jeste stvaranje novih odeljenja,
11:09
which is why this is so unusual.
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zbog toga je sve ovo veoma neobično.
11:12
Isaac Kohane has now created a department based on informatics, data, knowledge
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Isak Kohen je sada otvorio odeljenje koje se bazira na informatici,
podacima i znanju na Harvardskom medicinskom fakultetu.
11:18
at Harvard Medical School.
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11:21
And in a sense, what's beginning to happen is
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Na neki način, počelo je da se dešava
11:23
biology is beginning to get enough data
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da biologija počinje da dobija dovoljno podataka
11:26
that it can begin to follow the steps of physics,
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tako da može da krene stopama fizike,
11:28
which used to be observational physics
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koja je prvo bila samo posmatračka,
11:32
and experimental physicists,
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pa eksperimentalna,
11:34
and then started creating theoretical biology.
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a onda je počela da stvara teorijsku biologiju.
11:36
Well, that's what you're beginning to see
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To je ono što počinjete da viđate
11:38
because you have so many medical records,
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zato što sada imate toliko medicinskih podataka,
11:40
because you have so much data about people:
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toliko podataka o ljudima,
11:42
you've got their genomes, you've got their viromes,
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imate njihove genome, imate njihove viruse,
imate njihove mikrobiome.
11:45
you've got their microbiomes.
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11:46
And as this information stacks,
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I dok se ove informacije gomilaju,
11:48
you can begin to make predictions.
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možete početi sa predviđanjima.
11:52
The third thing that's happening is this is coming to the consumer.
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Treća stvar koja se dešava je da to dolazi do potrošača.
11:56
So you, too, can get your genes sequenced.
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Tako da i vi možete dobiti analizu svojih gena.
12:01
And this is beginning to create companies like 23andMe,
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Ovo je početak stvaranja kompanija kao što je „23 i ja”,
12:04
and companies like 23andMe are going to be giving you
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a one će vam davati
12:06
more and more and more data,
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sve više i više podataka,
12:08
not just about your relatives,
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ne samo o vašim rođacima,
12:10
but about you and your body,
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nego i o vašem telu,
12:11
and it's going to compare stuff,
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porediće stvari,
12:13
and it's going to compare stuff across time,
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porediće ih kroz vreme,
i to će postati veoma velika baza podataka.
12:15
and these are going to become very large databases.
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12:18
But it's also beginning to affect a series of other businesses
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Ovo će takođe uticati i na niz drugih poslova
12:21
in unexpected ways.
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na veoma neočekivane načine.
12:23
Normally, when you advertise something, you really don't want the consumer
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Obično kada reklamirate nešto, ne želite da vaš potrošač
12:27
to take your advertisement into the bathroom to pee on.
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odnese reklamni letak u kupatilo i popiški se na njega.
12:33
Unless, of course, if you're IKEA.
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Naravno, osim ako niste IKEA.
12:37
Because when you rip this out of a magazine and you pee on it,
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Ako ovo iscepite iz časopisa i popiškite se na to,
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it'll turn blue if you're pregnant.
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ono će poplaviti ako ste trudni.
12:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:44
And they'll give you a discount on your crib.
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I oni će vam dati popust na kolevku.
12:48
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:49
Right? So when I say consumer empowerment,
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Kada kažem osnaživanje potrošača,
12:51
and this is spreading beyond biotech,
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a ovo prevazilazi biotehniku,
12:54
I actually really mean that.
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zaista to i mislim.
12:58
We're now beginning to produce, at Synthetic Genomics,
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Trenutno počinjemo sa proizvodnjom, u kompaniji „Sintetička genomika”,
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desktop printers
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štampača
13:05
that allow you to design a cell,
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koji vam omogućavaju da kreirate ćeliju,
13:08
print a cell,
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odštampate je,
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execute the program on the cell.
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i unesete program u ćeliju.
13:12
We can now print vaccines
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Sada možemo odštampati vakcine
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real time as an airplane takes off
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u realnom vremenu, od momenta poletanja aviona
13:17
before it lands.
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pre nego što sleti.
13:19
We're shipping 78 of these machines this year.
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Ove godine šaljemo 78 ovakvih mašina.
13:24
This is not theoretical biology. This is printing biology.
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Ovo nije teorijska biologija. Ovo je štamparska biologija.
13:30
Let me talk about two long-term trends
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Reći ću vam dva dugoročna trenda
13:33
that are coming at you over a longer time period.
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koja će nastupiti u dužem vremenskom periodu.
13:37
The first one is, we're starting to redesign species.
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Prvo, počećemo sa redizajniranjem vrsta.
13:41
And you've heard about that, right?
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Čuli ste za to, zar ne?
13:42
We're redesigning trees. We're redesigning flowers.
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Redizajniramo drveće i cveće.
13:45
We're redesigning yogurt,
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Redizajniramo jogurt,
13:48
cheese, whatever else you want.
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sir i šta god drugo vam padne na pamet.
13:51
And that, of course, brings up the interesting question:
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A ovo donosi interesantno pitanje:
13:54
How and when should we redesign humans?
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kako i kada ćemo redizajnirati ljude?
13:59
And a lot of us think, "Oh no, we never want to redesign humans."
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Mnogi od nas misle: „Ma ne, nećemo nikad redizajnirati ljude.”
14:04
Unless, of course, if your child has a Huntington's gene
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Osim ukoliko npr. vaše dete nema Hantingtonov gen
14:06
and is condemned to death.
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i osuđeno je na smrt.
14:09
Or, unless if you're passing on a cystic fibrosis gene,
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Ili ukoliko ste prenosilac gena cistične fibroze.
14:12
in which case, you don't just want to redesign yourself,
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U tom slučaju ne želite samo sebe da redizajnirate,
nego i svoju decu i njihovu decu.
14:15
you want to redesign your children and their children.
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14:18
And these are complicated debates and they're going to happen in real time.
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Ovo su komplikovane rasprave i dešavaće se uskoro.
14:22
I'll give you one current example.
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Daću vam jedan primer.
14:25
One of the debates going on at the National Academies today
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Jedna od rasprava koje se danas vode u nacionalnim akademijama je:
14:29
is you have the power to put a gene drive into mosquitoes
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imate mogućnost da umetnete genetsku izmenu u komarce
14:34
so that you will kill all the malaria-carrying mosquitoes.
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tako da ubijete sve malarične komarce.
14:39
Now, some people say,
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Neki ljudi kažu:
14:42
"That's going to affect the environment in an extreme way, don't do it."
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„Ovo će uticati na ekološko okruženje i to na ekstreman način. Ne radite to.”
14:47
Other people say,
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Drugi kažu:
14:48
"This is one of the things that's killing millions of people yearly.
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„To je nešto što godišnje ubija milione ljudi.
14:51
Who are you to tell me that I can't save the kids in my country?"
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Ko ste vi da mi kažete da ne mogu da spasim decu u mojoj zemlji?”
14:57
And why is this debate so complicated?
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A zašto je ova rasprava tako komplikovana?
14:59
Because as soon as you let this loose in Brazil
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Zato što, čim to uradite u Brazilu
15:01
or in Southern Florida --
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ili Južnoj Floridi,
15:03
mosquitoes don't respect walls.
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komarci neće poštovati granice.
15:04
You're making a decision for the world
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Vi donosite odluku za čitav svet
15:07
when you put a gene drive into the air.
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kada puštate genetski izmene u etar.
15:14
This wonderful man won a Nobel Prize,
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Ovaj divan čovek je dobio Nobelovu nagradu,
15:17
and after winning the Nobel Prize
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i nakon što je dobio Nobelovu nagradu, stalno je razmišljao
15:18
he's been worrying about
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15:21
how did life get started on this planet
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kako je život počeo na ovoj planeti
15:23
and how likely is it that it's in other places?
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i kolika je verovatnoća da postoji i na drugim mestima?
15:27
So what he's been doing is going around to this graduate students
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On je obilazio svoje studente
15:30
and saying to his graduate students,
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i govorio im:
15:32
"Build me life but don't use any modern chemicals or instruments.
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„Napravite mi život, ali bez korišćenja modernih hemikalija ili instrumenata.
15:36
Build me stuff that was here three billion years ago.
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Napravite mi nešto što je postojalo ovde pre tri milijarde godina.
15:38
You can't use lasers. You can't use this. You can't use that."
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Ne možete da koristite lasere, ne možete da koristite ovo, niti ono.”
15:44
He gave me a vial of what he's built about three weeks ago.
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Pre tri nedelje dao mi je uzorak onoga što je stvorio.
15:48
What has he built?
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Šta je stvorio?
15:49
He's built basically what looked like soap bubbles that are made out of lipids.
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Stvorio je nešto što je u osnovi izgledalo kao sapunica koja se pravi od lipida.
15:53
He's built a precursor of RNA.
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Napravio je prethodnika RNA.
15:57
He's had the precursor of the RNA be absorbed by the cell
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Imao je prethodnika RNA apsorbovanog od strane ćelije,
16:02
and then he's had the cells divide.
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a onda su se ćelije podelile.
16:06
We may not be that far --
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Možda nismo toliko daleko,
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call it a decade, maybe two decades --
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recimo deceniju ili dve,
16:12
from generating life from scratch
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od pravljenja života od nule
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out of proto-communities.
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izvan protozajednica.
16:19
Second long-term trend:
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Drugi dugoročni trend:
16:22
we've been living and are living through the digital age --
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živeli smo i živimo u digitalnom dobu -
16:25
we're starting to live through the age of the genome
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počinjemo da živimo u dobu genoma,
biologije, CRISPR-a i sintetičke biologije -
16:28
and biology and CRISPR and synthetic biology --
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16:32
and all of that is going to merge into the age of the brain.
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a sve to će se spojiti u doba mozga.
16:36
So we're getting to the point where we can rebuild most of our body parts,
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Dolazimo do tačke da možemo ponovo napraviti veći deo naših delova tela
16:40
in the same way as if you break a bone or burn your skin, it regrows.
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na isti način kao kad slomite kost ili opečete kožu, a ona ponovo naraste.
16:44
We're beginning to learn how to regrow our tracheas
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Počinjemo da učimo kako da obnovimo dušnik
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or how to regrow our bladders.
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ili kako da obnovimo bešiku.
16:49
Both of those have been implanted in humans.
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Oba organa su već ugrađena u ljude.
16:51
Tony Atala is working on 32 different organs.
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Toni Atala radi na 32 organa.
16:55
But the core is going to be this,
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Ali suština je u ovome,
16:57
because this is you and the rest is just packaging.
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zato što ste to vi, a sve ostalo je samo pakovanje.
17:02
Nobody's going to live beyond 120, 130, 140 years
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Niko neće živeti preko 120, 130 ili 140 godina
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unless if we fix this.
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ako ne popravimo ovo.
17:08
And that's the most interesting challenge.
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A to je najinteresantniji izazov.
To je sledeće pomeranje granica, zajedno sa:
17:10
That's the next frontier, along with:
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17:12
"How common is life in the universe?"
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„Koliko je čest život u svemiru?”
17:14
"Where did we come from?"
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„Odakle smo došli?”
17:16
and questions like that.
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i slična pitanja.
17:20
Let me end this with an apocryphal quote from Einstein.
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Dozvolite mi da završim navodno Ajnštajnovim citatom:
17:23
[You can live as if everything is a miracle,
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(Možete živeti kao da je sve čudo,
17:25
or you can live as if nothing is a miracle.]
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ili kao da ništa nije čudo.)
17:28
It's your choice.
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Izbor je vaš.
17:30
You can focus on the bad, you can focus on the scary,
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Možete se fokusirati na loše, na strašno,
17:33
and certainly there's a lot of scary out there.
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a sigurno ima puno toga zastrašujućeg u svetu.
17:36
But use 10 percent of your brain to focus on that, or maybe 20 percent,
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Ali koristite 10 procenata svog mozga da se fokusirate na ovo, ili možda 20
17:40
or maybe 30 percent.
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ili 30 procenata.
17:43
But just remember,
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Ali zapamtite,
17:45
we really are living in an age of miracle and wonder.
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mi zaista živimo u dobu čuda.
17:48
We're lucky to be alive today. We're lucky to see this stuff.
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Srećni smo što živimo danas. Srećni što možemo da vidimo ove stvari.
17:51
We're lucky to be able to interact with folks like the folks
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Srećni smo što možemo da komuniciramo sa ljudima kao što su oni
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who are building all the stuff in this room.
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koji prave sve u ovoj prostoriji.
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So thank you to all of you, for all you do.
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Zato hvala vam svima, na svemu što radite.
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(Applause)
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