How couples can sustain a strong sexual connection for a lifetime | Emily Nagoski

206,614 views ・ 2019-10-17

TED


μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Songyi Kim κ²€ν† : Yunjung Nam
00:12
I'm sitting in a bar with a couple of friends --
0
12951
2247
μ €λŠ” μΉœκ΅¬λ“€κ³Ό μˆ μ§‘μ— 앉아 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:15
literally, a couple, married couple.
1
15222
1740
κ·Έ μΉœκ΅¬λŠ” κ²°ν˜Όν•œ λΆ€λΆ€μ˜€μ£ .
00:16
They're the parents of two young children,
2
16986
2424
그듀은 두 아이λ₯Ό 가진 λΆ€λͺ¨μ˜€μ–΄μš”.
00:19
seven academic degrees between them,
3
19434
1988
λ‘˜μ€ ν•©ν•΄μ„œ 7개의 ν•™μœ„λ₯Ό 가지고 있고
00:21
big nerds, really nice people but very sleep-deprived.
4
21446
4193
곡뢀 밖에 λͺ¨λ₯΄λŠ” 괴짜이고, μ°©ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 항상 잠이 λΆ€μ‘±ν–ˆμ£ .
00:25
And they ask me the question I get asked more than any other question.
5
25663
5519
이듀은 μ €μ—κ²Œ μ§ˆλ¬Έν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 사싀 μ œκ°€ κ°€μž₯ 많이 λ°›λŠ” μ§ˆλ¬ΈμΈλ°μš”.
00:31
They go, "So, Emily,
6
31206
2621
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‹ˆκΉ, "에밀리,
00:33
how do couples, you know, sustain a strong sexual connection
7
33851
5497
λΆ€λΆ€κ°€ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ κ±΄κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 μœ μ§€ν•˜μ§€?
00:39
over multiple decades?"
8
39372
1721
μˆ˜μ‹­ λ…„ λ„˜κ²Œ 말이야."
00:42
I'm a sex educator, which is why my friends ask me questions like this,
9
42162
3413
μ €λŠ” μ„± κ΅μœ‘μžμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 이런 μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ 많이 λ°›μ£ .
00:45
and I am also a big nerd like my friends.
10
45599
2404
μ € λ˜ν•œ μΉœκ΅¬λ“€κ³Ό λ§ˆμ°¬κ°€μ§€λ‘œ ꡉμž₯ν•œ κ΄΄μ§œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:48
I love science, which is why I can give them something like an answer.
11
48027
4032
μ „ 과학을 정말 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ£ . κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 이런 닡을 μ£Όμ—ˆμ£ .
00:52
Research actually has pretty solid evidence
12
52083
2426
사싀 κ½€ κ°•ν•œ 섀득λ ₯을 가진 연ꡬ κ²°κ³Όκ°€ μžˆλŠ”λ°
00:54
that couples who sustain strong sexual connections
13
54533
2526
수 μ‹­ λ…„κ°„ κ±΄κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을
00:57
over multiple decades
14
57083
1737
μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ” 뢀뢀듀은
00:58
have two things in common.
15
58844
1953
두 가지 곡톡점을 가지고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:01
Before I can tell my friends what those two things are,
16
61414
2616
이 두 가지가 무엇인지 λŒ€λ‹΅ν•˜κΈ° 전에
01:04
I have to tell them a few things that they are not.
17
64054
2436
두 가지에 포함이 λ˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ” κ±Έ 이야기해야 ν–ˆμ£ .
01:06
These are not couples who have sex very often.
18
66514
3665
λ¨Όμ €, 성관계λ₯Ό 자주 ν•˜λŠ” λΆ€λΆ€κ°€ μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:10
Almost none of us have sex very often.
19
70560
3157
우리 λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ€ 거의 성관계λ₯Ό ν•  μ‹œκ°„μ΄ μ—†μ£ .
01:14
We are busy.
20
74322
1275
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ°”μ˜λ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
01:16
They are also not couples who necessarily have wild, adventurous sex.
21
76318
3588
λ˜ν•œ κΌ­ λͺ¨ν—˜μ μ΄κ±°λ‚˜ κ²©λ ¬ν•˜κ²Œ 성관계λ₯Ό ν•˜λŠ” 뢀뢀도 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:19
One recent study actually found
22
79930
1590
졜근 ν•œ 연ꡬ에 λ”°λ₯΄λ©΄
01:21
that the couples who are most strongly predicted
23
81544
3553
κ±΄κ°•ν•œ μ„±μƒν™œ 및 높은 관계 λ§Œμ‘±λ„λ₯Ό κ°€μ§ˆ 것이라 μ˜ˆμƒλ˜λŠ”
01:25
to have strong sexual and relationship satisfaction,
24
85121
4117
λΆ€λΆ€λ₯Ό μΈ‘μ •ν•˜λŠ”λ° μžˆμ–΄
01:29
the best predictor of that
25
89262
1362
κ°€μž₯ κ°€λŠ₯성이 μžˆλŠ” ν•­λͺ©μœΌλ‘œ
01:30
is not what kind of sex they have
26
90648
1973
μ–΄λ–€ 성관계λ₯Ό ν•˜λŠλƒ λ˜λŠ”
01:32
or how often or where they have it
27
92645
1650
λΉˆλ„μˆ˜λ‚˜ μž₯μ†Œκ°€ μ€‘μš”ν•œ 게 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
01:34
but whether they cuddle after sex.
28
94319
2587
관계 ν›„ ν¬μ˜Ήμ„ ν•˜λŠλƒ ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠλƒμ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:37
And they are not necessarily couples
29
97906
1796
그리고 손을 λ—„ 수 없을 만큼
01:39
who constantly can't wait to keep their hands off each other.
30
99726
2916
μŠ€ν‚¨μ‹­μ„ 자주 ν•˜λŠ” 뢀뢀도 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:42
Some of them are.
31
102666
1213
λ¬Όλ‘  그런 뢀뢀도 μžˆμ§€λ§Œμš”.
01:43
They experience what the researchers call "spontaneous desire,"
32
103903
3373
μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 뢀뢀듀은 "자발적인 μš•λ§"을 κ²½ν—˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:47
that just sort of seems to appear out of the blue.
33
107300
2434
λ‚˜λ„ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ²Œ κ°‘μžκΈ° λ‚˜νƒ€λ‚˜λŠ” 기뢄이죠.
01:49
Erika Moen, the cartoonist who illustrated my book,
34
109758
2476
제 μ±…μ˜ 그림을 λ‹΄λ‹Ήν•˜μ‹  에리카 λͺ¨μ—” μ”¨λŠ”
01:52
draws spontaneous desire as a lightning bolt to the genitals --
35
112258
4565
자발적인 μš•λ§μ„ 번개 그림으둜 ν‘œν˜„ν•˜μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:56
kaboom! -- you just want it out of the blue.
36
116847
2785
μ§œμž”! λ‚˜λ„ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ²Œ μ›ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜λŠ” κ±°μ£ .
01:59
That is absolutely one normal, healthy way to experience sexual desire.
37
119656
4198
μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 증상은 μ§€κ·Ήνžˆ κ±΄κ°•ν•œ 성적 μš•λ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:03
But there's another healthy way to experience sexual desire.
38
123878
3038
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 성적 μš•λ§μ„ λŠλ‚„ 수 μžˆλŠ” 또 λ‹€λ₯Έ 방법이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:06
It's called "responsive desire."
39
126940
2268
이것은 λ°˜μ‘μ μΈ μš•κ΅¬λΌκ³  λΆˆλ¦¬λŠ”λ°
02:09
Where spontaneous desire seems to emerge in anticipation of pleasure,
40
129232
4979
자발적인 μš•κ΅¬λŠ” μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 즐거움을 μ˜ˆμΈ‘ν•  수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— λ‚˜νƒ€λ‚˜μ§€λ§Œ
02:14
responsive desire emerges in response to pleasure.
41
134235
4208
λ°˜μ‘μ μΈ μš•κ΅¬λŠ” 즐거움에 λ°˜μ‘ν•˜κΈ°μ— λ‚˜νƒ€λ‚©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:18
There's a sex therapist in New Jersey named Christine Hyde,
42
138467
2769
뉴저지에 μœ„μΉ˜ν•œ μ„± 상담가인 ν¬λ¦¬μŠ€ν‹΄ ν•˜μ΄λ“œμ”¨λŠ”
02:21
who taught me this great metaphor she uses with her clients.
43
141260
2895
κ·Έλ…€μ˜ κ³ κ°λ“€μ—κ²Œ μ‚¬μš©ν•˜λŠ” μ€μœ μ  ν‘œν˜„μ„ μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:24
She says, imagine that your best friend invites you to a party.
44
144179
3374
κ°€μž₯ μΉœν•œ μΉœκ΅¬κ°€ 당신을 νŒŒν‹°μ— μ΄ˆλŒ€ν–ˆλ‹€κ³  상상해 λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
02:27
You say yes because it's your best friend and a party.
45
147577
4103
μΉœν•œ 친ꡬ의 νŒŒν‹°μ΄κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 당신은 μ°Έμ„ν•˜κΈ°λ‘œ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:31
But then, as the date approaches, you start thinking,
46
151704
2591
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ‚ μ§œκ°€ λ‹€κ°€μ˜¬μˆ˜λ‘ 이런 생각이 λ“€κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν•˜μ£ .
02:34
"Aw, there's going to be all this traffic.
47
154319
2421
"νŒŒν‹°μ— κ°€λ €λ©΄ μ°¨κ°€ μ—„μ²­ λ§‰νž 텐데
02:36
We have to find child care.
48
156764
1790
아이λ₯Ό λŒλ΄μ€„ μ‚¬λžŒλ„ ꡬ해야 ν•˜κ³ ,
02:38
Am I really going to want to put my party clothes on
49
158578
2485
μ˜·κΉŒμ§€ μ°¨λ €μž…μœΌλ©΄μ„œ
02:41
and get there at the end of the week?"
50
161087
1829
νŒŒν‹°μ— κ°€μ•Ό ν• κΉŒ?"
02:42
But you put on your party clothes and you show up to the party,
51
162940
3435
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 당신은 μ˜·μ„ μ°¨λ €μž…κ³  νŒŒν‹°μ— μ°Έμ„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:46
and what happens?
52
166399
1171
κ·Έ ν›„μ—” μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 되죠?
02:47
You have a good time at the party.
53
167959
1879
νŒŒν‹°μ—μ„œ 즐거운 μ‹œκ°„μ„ λ³΄λƒ…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:49
If you are having fun at the party,
54
169862
2204
νŒŒν‹°κ°€ μž¬λ°Œλ‹€κ³  λŠκ»΄μ§„λ‹€λ©΄
02:52
you are doing it right.
55
172090
1616
당신은 λ°”λ₯Έ 결정을 ν•œ κ±°κ² μ£ .
02:54
When it comes to a sexual connection, it's the same thing.
56
174147
2862
성적 ꡐ감도 이와 λ§ˆμ°¬κ°€μ§€ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:57
You put on your party clothes,
57
177033
1636
νŒŒν‹°μ— 갈 μ˜·μ„ μ°¨λ €μž…κ³ 
02:58
you set up the child care,
58
178693
1572
아이λ₯Ό λŒλ΄μ€„ μ‚¬λžŒμ„ κ΅¬ν•˜κ³ 
03:00
you put your body in the bed,
59
180289
2019
잠잘 μ€€λΉ„λ₯Ό ν•œ ν›„
03:02
you let your skin touch your partner's skin
60
182332
2547
μ˜†μ— μžˆλŠ” λ°°μš°μžμ™€ λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ 살이 λ§žλ‹Ώκ³ 
03:04
and allow your body to wake up and remember,
61
184903
2377
λͺΈμ΄ κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜κ²Œ λ§Œλ“œλŠ” κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:07
"Oh, right! I like this.
62
187304
2462
λ§žλ‹€! 이런 λŠλ‚Œμ΄μ—ˆμ§€.
03:09
I like this person!"
63
189790
1650
λ‚˜ 이 μ‚¬λžŒμ„ μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€.
03:11
That's responsive desire,
64
191949
2023
이것이 λ°”λ‘œ λ°˜μ‘μ μΈ μš•κ΅¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:13
and it is key to understanding the couples who sustain a strong sexual connection
65
193996
4597
κ±΄κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 μ˜€λž«λ™μ•ˆ μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ” 뢀뢀듀을 μ΄ν•΄ν•˜λŠ”λ° 핡심적인 것이죠.
03:18
over the long term,
66
198617
1350
03:19
because -- and this is the part where I tell my friends
67
199991
2653
μ €λŠ” μΉœκ΅¬λ“€μ—κ²Œ μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:22
the two characteristics of the couples who do sustain a strong sexual connection --
68
202668
4123
κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ” λΆ€λΆ€μ˜ 두 가지 νŠΉμ§•μ€
03:26
one, they have a strong friendship at the foundation of their relationship.
69
206815
4659
첫째, κ·Έλ“€μ˜ κ΄€κ³„μ˜ κΈ°μ΄ˆλŠ” κ°•ν•œ μš°μ •μœΌλ‘œ 이루어져 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:31
Specifically, they have strong trust.
70
211498
2662
특히, μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό ν–₯ν•œ 신뒰도가 κ°•ν•˜μ£ .
03:34
Relationship researcher and therapist,
71
214580
1871
μ •μ„œ 초점 치료 λ°œλ‹¬μ„ μ—°κ΅¬ν•˜λŠ”
03:36
developer of emotionally focused therapy,
72
216475
1983
관계 μ—°κ΅¬μžμ΄μž, μΉ˜λ£Œμ‚¬μΈ 수 μ‘΄μŠ¨μ€
03:38
Sue Johnson,
73
218482
1159
03:39
boils trust down to this question:
74
219665
2275
신뒰도λ₯Ό μ•Œλ €λ©΄ 이 μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ 해보라고 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:41
Are you there for me?
75
221964
2875
λ‚΄κ°€ νž˜λ“€ λ•Œ λ‚΄ μ˜†μ— μžˆμ—ˆλ‚˜μš”?
03:44
Especially, are you emotionally present and available for me?
76
224863
3724
특히 μ •μ‹ μ μœΌλ‘œ μ˜†μ— μžˆμ–΄ μ£Όμ—ˆλ‚˜μš”?
03:48
Friends are there for each other.
77
228611
2306
μΉœκ΅¬λŠ” μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄ μ˜†μ— μžˆμ–΄ μ£ΌλŠ” μ‘΄μž¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:51
One.
78
231231
1172
이게 첫 번째 μ˜€κ³ μš”.
03:52
The second characteristic is that they prioritize sex.
79
232427
5196
두 번째 νŠΉμ§•μ€ 성관계λ₯Ό μ€‘μš”μ‹œ ν•œλ‹€λŠ” κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:57
They decide that it matters for their relationship.
80
237647
3930
관계 μœ μ§€λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄ 성관계가 μ€‘μš”ν•œ 역할을 ν•œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜μ£ .
04:01
They choose to set aside all the other things that they could be doing --
81
241601
4497
λ‹€λ₯Έ 일을 ν•  수 μžˆμŒμ—λ„ λΆˆκ΅¬ν•˜κ³ 
04:06
the children they could be raising and the jobs they could be going to,
82
246122
3847
예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ 아이듀을 λŒλ³΄κ±°λ‚˜, ν•΄μ•Όν•  일을 ν•œλ‹€κ±°λ‚˜,
04:09
the other family members to pay attention to,
83
249993
2159
λ‹€λ₯Έ 가쑱듀을 μ±™κΈ΄λ‹€κ±°λ‚˜,
04:12
the other friends they might want to hang out with.
84
252176
2418
μΉœκ΅¬λ“€κ³Ό μ–΄μšΈλ € λ†€κ±°λ‚˜
04:14
God forbid they just want to watch some television or go to sleep.
85
254618
3239
ν…”λ ˆλΉ„μ Όμ„ μ‹œμ²­ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ κ·Έλƒ₯ 잠이 λ“€ μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμ§€λ§Œ
04:17
Stop doing all that stuff and create a protected space
86
257881
3531
그런 것듀을 ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šκ³  λ³ΈμΈλ“€λ§Œμ˜ 곡간을 λ§Œλ“€μ–΄
04:21
where all you're going to do is put your body in the bed
87
261436
3358
μΉ¨λŒ€μ— λˆ„μ›Œμ„œ μ„œλ‘œ λΆ€λŒ€λ‚„ 수 μžˆλŠ” μ‹œκ°„μ„ λ§Œλ“ λ‹€λŠ” 것이죠.
04:24
and let your skin touch your partner's skin.
88
264818
2329
04:28
So that's it:
89
268202
1154
λ°”λ‘œ μ΄κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:29
best friends,
90
269380
1582
κ°€μž₯ μΉœν•œ μΉœκ΅¬κ°€ 되고
04:30
prioritize sex.
91
270986
1309
성관계에 μš°μ„ μˆœμœ„λ₯Ό 두기.
04:33
So I said this to my friends in the bar.
92
273201
1975
μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ μΉœκ΅¬λ“€μ—κ²Œ λŒ€λ‹΅μ„ ν•΄μ€¬μ–΄μš”.
04:35
I was like, best friends, prioritize sex, I told them about the party,
93
275200
3394
λ‹€μ‹œ 말해, μΉœν•œ 친ꡬ, 성관계 μš°μ„ , νŒŒν‹° 이야기λ₯Ό 해쀬죠.
04:38
I said you put your skin next to your partner's skin.
94
278618
2512
λ‘˜μ΄ λ‚˜λž€νžˆ λˆ„μ›Œ 살을 λ§žλŒ€λΌκ³  ν–ˆμ£ .
04:41
And one of the partners I was talking to goes, "Aaagh."
95
281154
5195
그러자 λΆ€λΆ€ 쀑 ν•œ λͺ…이 "μœΌμ•„μ•„"이라고 ν•˜λ”κ΅°μš”.
04:46
(Laughter)
96
286373
1148
(μ›ƒμŒ)
04:47
And I was like, "OK, so, there's your problem."
97
287545
2198
"그래, κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ λ°˜μ‘ν•˜λŠ” 게 λ¬Έμ œμ•Ό"
04:49
(Laughter)
98
289767
1046
(μ›ƒμŒ)
04:50
The difficulty was not that they did not want to go to the party, necessarily.
99
290837
3923
λ¬Έμ œλŠ” 그듀이 νŒŒν‹°μ— μ°Έμ„ν•˜κΈ° 싫은 것이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
04:54
If the difficulty is just a lack of spontaneous desire for party,
100
294784
3200
λ°”λ‘œ νŒŒν‹°μ— κ°€κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄ ν•˜λŠ” 즉ν₯적 μš•κ΅¬ 뢀쑱이죠.
04:58
you know what to do:
101
298008
1152
이럴 λ•Œ 무엇을 ν•΄μ•Ό ν• κΉŒμš”?
04:59
you put on your party clothes and show up for the party.
102
299184
2634
νŒŒν‹°μ— 갈 μ˜·μ„ μž…κ³  νŒŒν‹°μ— μ°Έμ„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:01
If you're having fun at the party, you're doing it right.
103
301842
2697
λ§Œμ•½ νŒŒν‹°κ°€ μž¬λ°Œλ‹€λ©΄, 당신은 μ˜¬λ°”λ₯Έ 결정을 ν•œ κ±°μ£ .
05:04
Their difficulty was that this was a party
104
304563
2065
κ·Έλ“€μ˜ λ¬Έμ œλŠ” 이 νŒŒν‹°κ°€
05:06
where she didn't love what there was available to eat,
105
306652
3866
κ·Έλ…€κ°€ μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” λ§›μžˆλŠ” μŒμ‹μ΄ μ—†κ³ 
05:10
the music was not her favorite music,
106
310542
1920
νŒŒν‹° μŒμ•…μ΄ λ§ˆμŒμ— 듀지 μ•Šκ³ 
05:12
and she wasn't totally sure she felt great about her relationships with people
107
312486
3705
νŒŒν‹°μ— μ°Έμ„ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€κ³Ό 관계가 μ’‹μ•˜λŠ”μ§€
05:16
who were at the party.
108
316215
1340
ν™•μ‹ ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
05:17
And this happens all the time:
109
317579
1945
μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 일은 항상 μΌμ–΄λ‚©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:19
nice people who love each other come to dread sex.
110
319548
5501
μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό μ‚¬λž‘ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€ 사이에도 성관계 결핍이 올 수 있죠.
05:25
These couples, if they seek sex therapy,
111
325073
2061
λ§Œμ•½ 그듀이 μ„± 상담사λ₯Ό μ°ΎλŠ”λ‹€λ©΄
05:27
the therapist might have them stand up
112
327158
2202
μƒλ‹΄μ‚¬λŠ” 일어 μ„œλ³΄λΌκ³  ν•  κ±°μ˜ˆμš”.
05:29
and put as much distance between their bodies as they need
113
329384
3210
그리고 μ„œλ‘œκ°€ νŽΈμ•ˆν•  μ •λ„μ˜ 거리λ₯Ό
05:32
in order to feel comfortable,
114
332618
1555
λ§Œλ“€μ–΄ 보라고 ν•  κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:34
and the less interested partner will make 20 feet of space.
115
334197
5660
관심이 λ³„λ‘œ μ—†λŠ” λ°°μš°μžλŠ” 6λ―Έν„° μ •λ„μ˜ 거리λ₯Ό λ‘˜ κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:39
And the really difficult part is that space is not empty.
116
339881
3838
κ°€μž₯ μ–΄λ €μš΄ 점은 이 거리가 μ˜¨κ°– κ°μ •λ“€λ‘œ κ°€λ“ν•˜λ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:43
It is crowded with weeks or months or more
117
343743
4639
이 κ±°λ¦¬λŠ” λͺ‡ μ£Ό λ˜λŠ” λͺ‡ 달 μ•„λ‹ˆ 그보닀 훨씬 더 많이
05:48
of the, "You're not listening to me,"
118
348406
1820
"당신이 λ‚΄ 이야기λ₯Ό 듣지 μ•Šμ•„μ„œ,
05:50
and "I don't know what's wrong with me but your criticism isn't helping,"
119
350250
3470
무엇이 λ¬Έμ œμΈμ§€λŠ” μ •ν™•νžˆ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ§€λ§Œ λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ λΉ„νŒμ μΈ μ‹œμ„  λ•Œλ¬Έμ—,
05:53
and, "If you loved me, you would," and, "You're not there for me."
120
353744
3210
λ§Œμ•½ λ‚  μ‚¬λž‘ν•œλ‹€λ©΄ λ‚΄ 말을 듀어쀄 텐데, λ‚΄ μ˜†μ— μžˆμ„ 텐데."
05:56
Years, maybe, of all these difficult feelings.
121
356978
3769
이런 νž˜λ“  κ°μ •μ˜ μƒκ°μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ§Œλ“€μ–΄μ§„κ±°μ£ .
06:00
In the book, I use this really silly metaphor
122
360771
2284
μ±…μ—μ„œ μ €λŠ” μ’€ 더 μ€μœ μ μœΌλ‘œ ν‘œν˜„ν•˜κΈ° μœ„ν•΄
06:03
of difficult feelings as sleepy hedgehogs
123
363079
2947
μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ νž˜λ“  감정듀을 마치 μ‘Έλ¦° κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λΌκ³  ν‘œν˜„ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:06
that you are fostering until you can find a way to set them free
124
366050
4209
λ‹Ήμ‹ μ—κ²Œ κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λ“€μ€ 슀슀둜 길을 μ°Ύμ•„κ°ˆ 수 μžˆλ„λ‘
06:10
by turning toward them with kindness and compassion.
125
370283
3772
μΉœμ ˆν•¨κ³Ό 연민을 가지고 λŒλ΄μ•Ό ν•˜λŠ” λŒ€μƒμΈ κ±°μ£ .
06:14
And the couples who struggle to maintain a strong sexual connection,
126
374079
3551
κ±΄κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μ–΄λ €μš΄ 뢀뢀듀은
06:17
the distance between them is crowded with these sleepy hedgehogs.
127
377654
4013
κ·Έ λ‘˜ μ‚¬μ΄μ˜ 거리가 μ‘Έλ¦° κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λ“€λ‘œ κ°€λ“ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:21
And it happens in any relationship that lasts long enough.
128
381691
2756
였래 관계λ₯Ό μœ μ§€ν•΄μ˜¨ μ–΄λŠ λΆ€λΆ€μ—κ²Œμ„œλ‚˜ λ‚˜νƒ€λ‚  수 있죠.
06:24
You, too, are fostering a prickle of sleepy hedgehogs
129
384471
3641
당신도 λ§ˆμ°¬κ°€μ§€λ‘œ λ‹Ήμ‹ κ³Ό λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ νŠΉλ³„ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒ 사이에
06:28
between you and your certain special someone.
130
388136
2691
κ°€μ‹œ 돋은 κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λ“€μ„ ν‚€μš°κ³  μžˆμ„μ§€λ„ λͺ¨λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:30
The difference between couples who sustain a strong sexual connection
131
390851
3287
κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 가진 뢀뢀와
그렇지 μ•Šμ€ λΆ€λΆ€μ˜ 차이점은
06:34
and the ones who don't
132
394162
1154
06:35
is not that they don't experience these difficult hurt feelings,
133
395340
3751
μ–΄λ ΅κ³  μƒμ²˜λ°›μ€ 감정을 κ²ͺ지 μ•Šμ€ 것이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
06:39
it's that they turn towards those difficult feelings
134
399115
2758
그듀은 이런 감정에 μΉœμ ˆν•¨κ³Ό μ—°λ―Όμ˜ λ§ˆμŒμ„
06:41
with kindness and compassion
135
401897
2300
λ³΄μΈλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:44
so that they can set them free
136
404221
1987
그럼으둜써 μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό 자유둭게 ν•˜κ³ 
06:46
and find their way back to each other.
137
406232
2257
μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό ν–₯ν•œ λ§ˆμŒμ„ 확인 ν•  수 있죠.
06:49
So my friends in the bar are faced with the question under the question,
138
409019
4526
제 μΉœκ΅¬λ“€μ€ μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ λ§ˆμ£Όν–ˆμ£ .
06:53
not, "How do we sustain a strong connection?"
139
413569
2805
"μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ κ°•ν•œ ꡐ감을 μœ μ§€ν•˜μ§€?" λΌλŠ” 질문이 μ•„λ‹Œ
06:56
but, "How do we find our way back to it?"
140
416398
2487
"μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ„œλ‘œμ—κ²Œ ν–₯ν•œ 길을 찾지?" λΌλŠ” μ§ˆλ¬Έμš”.
06:59
And, yes, there is science to answer this question,
141
419650
2590
λ§žμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 μ§ˆλ¬Έμ— 과학적인 정닡이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:02
but in 25 years as a sex educator,
142
422264
2211
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 25λ…„κ°„ μ„± ꡐ윑자둜 μΌν•˜λ©΄μ„œ
07:04
one thing I have learned is sometimes, Emily,
143
424499
2306
ν•œ 가지 μ œκ°€ 배운 것이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
07:06
less science,
144
426829
1341
덜 과학적인 μ ‘κ·Όκ³Ό
07:09
more hedgehogs.
145
429127
1476
더 λ§Žμ€ κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜μ  ν‘œν˜„μ΄μ£ .
07:10
So I told them about me.
146
430627
2123
μ €λŠ” μΉœκ΅¬λ“€μ—κ²Œ 제 경우λ₯Ό μ–˜κΈ°ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
07:12
I spent many months writing a book about the science of women's sexual well-being.
147
432774
5443
λͺ‡ 달 λ™μ•ˆ μ—¬μ„±μ˜ μ„±ν–‰μœ„ 과학에 λŒ€ν•œ 책을 μ“°λ©΄μ„œ
07:18
I was thinking about sex all day, every day,
148
438241
3028
항상 성관계에 λŒ€ν•΄ μƒκ°ν–ˆκ³ 
07:21
and I was so stressed by the project that I had zero -- zero! -- interest
149
441293
4548
사싀 성에 κ΄€ν•΄ μ „ν˜€ 관심이 μ—†λŠ”λ° μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈλ₯Ό λ§‘μ•„μ„œ
07:25
in actually having any sex.
150
445865
1811
μ•„μ£Ό 슀트레슀λ₯Ό 많이 λ°›μ•˜λ‹€κ³  털어놨죠.
07:28
And then I spent months traveling all over,
151
448167
2610
그리고 μ €λŠ” λͺ‡ 달 λ™μ•ˆ 여행을 ν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:30
talking with anyone who would listen
152
450801
1801
여행을 ν•˜λ©΄μ„œ μ—¬μ„±μ˜ μ„±ν–‰μœ„ 과학에
07:32
about the science of women's sexual well-being.
153
452626
2294
관심이 μžˆμ–΄ ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€κ³Ό μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ£ .
07:34
And by the time I got home, you know,
154
454944
2015
여행이 λλ‚˜κ³  집에 왔을 λ•Œ
07:36
I'd show up for the party, put my body in the bed,
155
456983
2371
μ €λŠ” νŒŒν‹°μ—λ„ μ°Έμ„ν•˜κ³  잠잘 μ€€λΉ„λ₯Ό ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:39
let my skin touch my partner's skin,
156
459378
2027
제 살이 제 λ°°μš°μžμ™€ λ§žλ‹Ώμ„ 수 μžˆκ²Œμš”.
07:41
and I was so exhausted and overwhelmed I would just cry and fall asleep.
157
461429
4281
μ €λŠ” λ„ˆλ¬΄ μ§€μ³€μ—ˆκ³  κ·Έλƒ₯ 울고 μ‹Άκ³  μž λ“€κ³  싢은 λ§ˆμŒλ°–μ— μ—†μ—ˆμ£ .
07:46
And the months of isolation fostered fear and loneliness
158
466463
5864
이런 λΆˆμ•ˆκ³Ό μ™Έλ‘œμ›€μ„ 느끼며 λͺ‡ 달 λ™μ•ˆ 고립된 μƒν™œμ„ ν•˜κ³ 
07:52
and frustration.
159
472351
1715
μ’Œμ ˆμ„ λŠλΌλ©΄μ„œ
07:54
So many hedgehogs.
160
474535
1990
λ§Žμ€ κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λ₯Ό κ²½ν—˜ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
07:57
My best friend, this person I love and admire,
161
477173
4200
μ œκ°€ μ‚¬λž‘ν•˜κ³  μ‘΄κ²½ν•˜λŠ” μ €μ˜ κ°€μž₯ μΉœν•œ μΉœκ΅¬λŠ”
08:01
felt a million miles away.
162
481397
2350
마치 μ•„μ£Ό 멀리 λ–¨μ–΄μ Έ μžˆλŠ” 것 처럼 느껴쑌죠.
08:05
But ...
163
485081
1279
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ...
08:07
he was still there for me.
164
487155
1427
제 λ°°μš°μžλŠ” 곁에 μžˆμ—ˆμ£ .
08:08
No matter how many difficult feelings there were,
165
488963
3302
μ œκ°€ 많이 νž˜λ“€μ–΄ ν•  λ•Œλ„
08:12
he turned toward them with kindness and compassion.
166
492289
2658
κ·ΈλŠ” μ €μ—κ²Œ μΉœμ ˆν•¨κ³Ό 연민을 보여쀬죠.
08:14
He never turned away.
167
494971
1520
κ²°μ½” μ €λ₯Ό 등지지 μ•Šμ•˜μ–΄μš”.
08:17
And what was the second characteristic
168
497650
1853
κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ”λ°
08:19
of couples who sustain a strong sexual connection?
169
499527
2413
ν•„μš”ν•œ 두 번째 νŠΉμ§•μ΄ 무엇인지 κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜μ‹œλ‚˜μš”?
08:22
They prioritize sex.
170
502972
1332
성관계λ₯Ό μš°μ„ μˆœμœ„λ‘œ ν•˜λΌ.
08:24
They decide that it matters for their relationship,
171
504328
3554
그듀은 이 점이 μ€‘μš”ν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
08:27
that they do what it takes to find their way back to the connection.
172
507906
3300
κ΅κ°ν•˜λŠ” 방법을 λ‹€μ‹œ μ°ΎκΈ° μœ„ν•΄ 그듀은 무엇이든 ν•˜κΈ°λ‘œ ν–ˆμ£ .
08:31
I told my friends what sex therapist and researcher Peggy Kleinplatz says.
173
511230
3697
μΉœκ΅¬λ“€μ—κ²Œ μ„± μƒλ‹΄μ‚¬μ΄μž 연ꡬ원인 페기 ν΄λ Œν”„λΌμΈ κ°€ ν•œ 말을 μ „ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:34
She asks: What kind of sex is worth wanting?
174
514951
4145
κ·Έλ…€λŠ” λ¬Όμ—ˆμ£ , "μ–΄λ–€ μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ 성관계가 κ°ˆλ§ν•  κ°€μΉ˜κ°€ μžˆλŠ”κ°€? "
08:39
My partner and I looked at the quality of our connection
175
519993
3262
저와 제 λ°°μš°μžλŠ” μ €ν¬μ˜ κ΄€κ³„μ˜ μ§ˆμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 생각해 λ΄€μ–΄μš”.
08:43
and what it brought to our lives,
176
523279
1859
또 저희 삢에 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 영ν–₯을 미쳀으며
08:45
and we looked at the family of sleepy hedgehogs
177
525162
2844
우리 κ°€μ‘± μ•ˆμ— μžˆλŠ” 문제의 κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λ“€μ— λŒ€ν•΄ 생각해 λ΄€μ£ .
08:48
I had introduced into our home.
178
528030
3406
μ œκ°€ 가지고 있던 μ—¬λŸ¬ 가지 감정듀 λ§μ΄μ—μš”.
08:53
And we decided it was worth it.
179
533016
1617
이것이 κ°€μΉ˜μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν–ˆμ£ .
08:55
We decided -- we chose -- to do what it took to find our way,
180
535268
5156
μ €ν¬λŠ” κ²°μ •ν•˜κ³  μ„ νƒν–ˆμ£ . μ €ν¬λ§Œμ˜ 방법을 μ°ΎκΈ°λ‘œμš”.
09:00
turning towards each of those sleepy hedgehogs,
181
540448
2203
저희가 가지고 있던 κ³ μŠ΄λ„μΉ˜λ“€
09:02
those difficult hurt feelings,
182
542675
1641
즉, μ–΄λ ΅κ³  μƒμ²˜λ°›μ€ 감정듀을
09:04
with kindness and compassion
183
544340
1368
친절과 μ—°λ―ΌμœΌλ‘œ λŒ€ν•˜λ©°
09:05
and setting them free so that we could find our way back
184
545732
2748
νž˜λ“  감정듀을 λ‚ λ €λ²„λ¦¬κΈ°λ‘œ ν–ˆμ£ .
저희 관계에 μžˆμ–΄ μ€‘μš”ν•œ μ„œλ‘œμ— λŒ€ν•œ ꡐ감을 되찾기 μœ„ν•΄μ„œμš”.
09:08
to the connection that mattered for our relationship.
185
548504
2734
09:13
This is not the story we are usually told
186
553095
1970
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μž₯기적 κ΄€κ³„μ—μ„œ 성적 μš”κ΅¬κ°€
09:15
about how sexual desire works in long-term relationships.
187
555089
3134
μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μž‘μš©ν•˜λŠ”μ§€μ— λŒ€ν•œ 이야기λ₯Ό 자주 λ“£μ§€λŠ” λͺ»ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:19
But I can think of nothing more romantic,
188
559318
2609
ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ €λŠ” 이것이 세상 μ–΄λ–€ 것보닀 λ‘œλ§¨ν‹±ν•˜κ³ 
09:23
nothing sexier,
189
563102
1277
맀λ ₯적이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:24
than being chosen as a priority
190
564992
4092
λ°”λ‘œ λˆ„κ΅°κ°€μ˜ μš°μ„ μˆœμœ„κ°€ 될 수 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμ΄μš”.
09:29
because that connection matters enough,
191
569108
2742
저희 사이에 νž˜λ“  감정듀이 μžˆμ—ˆμŒμ—λ„ λΆˆκ΅¬ν•˜κ³ 
09:32
even after I introduced all of these difficult feelings into our relationship.
192
572697
4673
그만큼 ꡐ감이 μ €ν¬μ—κ²Œ μ€‘μš”ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
09:38
How do you sustain a strong sexual connection over the long term?
193
578568
4289
μ˜€λž«λ™μ•ˆ κ°•ν•œ 성적 ꡐ감을 μœ μ§€ν•  λ°©λ²•μ΄μš”?
09:44
You look into the eyes of your best friend,
194
584254
3126
μΉœν•œ 친ꡬ인 배우자의 λˆˆμ„ 바라보며
09:47
and you keep choosing to find your way back.
195
587404
3620
μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό ν–₯ν•œ 길을 λŠμž„μ—†μ΄ μ°ΎκΈΈ λ°”λžλ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:51
Thank you.
196
591833
1175
κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:53
(Applause)
197
593032
2763
(λ°•μˆ˜)
이 μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈ 정보

이 μ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλŠ” μ˜μ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅μ— μœ μš©ν•œ YouTube λ™μ˜μƒμ„ μ†Œκ°œν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ „ 세계 졜고의 μ„ μƒλ‹˜λ“€μ΄ κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μˆ˜μ—…μ„ 보게 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 각 λ™μ˜μƒ νŽ˜μ΄μ§€μ— ν‘œμ‹œλ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μžλ§‰μ„ 더블 ν΄λ¦­ν•˜λ©΄ κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ λ™μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΉ„λ””μ˜€ μž¬μƒμ— 맞좰 μžλ§‰μ΄ μŠ€ν¬λ‘€λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ˜κ²¬μ΄λ‚˜ μš”μ²­μ΄ μžˆλŠ” 경우 이 문의 양식을 μ‚¬μš©ν•˜μ—¬ λ¬Έμ˜ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7