Doris Kearns Goodwin: What we can learn from past presidents
ドリス・カーンズ・グッドウィン: 歴代大統領から学ぶこと
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翻訳: Takako Sato
校正: Aiko McLean
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So, indeed, I have spent my life
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私は 今は亡き大統領の
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looking into the lives of presidents who are no longer alive.
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人生の研究をしてきました
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Waking up with Abraham Lincoln in the morning,
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リンカーンと共に目を覚まし
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thinking of Franklin Roosevelt when I went to bed at night.
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ルーズベルトを思いながら寝ています
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But when I try and think about what I've learned
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でも 私が学んだ人生の意味を思うと
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about the meaning in life, my mind keeps wandering back
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ハーバードの大学院で受けた―
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to a seminar that I took when I was a graduate student at Harvard
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心理学者 エリク エリクソンの
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with the great psychologist Erik Erikson.
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講義を思い出します
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He taught us that the richest and fullest lives
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エリクソンは 充実した人生には
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attempt to achieve an inner balance between three realms:
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三つの領域の内面バランスが必要だと言いました
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work, love and play.
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「仕事」「愛」「遊び」です
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And that to pursue one realm to the disregard of the other,
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一つの領域しか追求しないと
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is to open oneself to ultimate sadness in older age.
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老いたときに喪失感が生まれるのに対し
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Whereas to pursue all three with equal dedication,
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三つの領域に没頭すると
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is to make possible a life filled not only with achievement,
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達成感だけではなく 心の平静と共に
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but with serenity.
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人生を全うできるのです
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So since I tell stories, let me look back
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物語るにあたり 私が研究した―
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on the lives of two of the presidents I've studied to illustrate this point --
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大統領二人の人生を振り返ってみます
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Abraham Lincoln and Lyndon Johnson.
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エイブラハム リンカーン と リンドン ジョンソンです
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As for that first sphere of work,
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一つめの「仕事」に関してですが
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I think what Abraham Lincoln's life suggests
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すさまじい野望を持つのは良いと
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is that fierce ambition is a good thing.
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リンカーンの人生が物語っていると思います
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He had a huge ambition.
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彼には大きな野望がありました
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But it wasn't simply for office or power or celebrity or fame --
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でも それは任務 権力 名声 評判のためではなく
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what it was for was to accomplish something worthy enough in life
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世界を少しでも改善させるために
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so that he could make the world a little better place for his having lived in it.
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人生で価値ある何かを達成したかったのです
01:35
Even as a child, it seemed, Lincoln dreamed heroic dreams.
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子どもの頃でさえ リンカーンには雄々しい夢がありました
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He somehow had to escape that hard-scrabble farm
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彼は生家である農家を後にする―
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from which he was born.
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必要がありました
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No schooling was possible for him,
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短期間の授業を除き
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except a few weeks here, a few weeks there.
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学校教育は受けられませんでした
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But he read books in every spare moment he could find.
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彼は暇さえあれば読書をしました
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It was said when he got a copy of the King James Bible
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聖書やイソップ童話が手に入ったとき
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or "Aesop's Fables," he was so excited he couldn't sleep.
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興奮して 睡眠も食事も取れなかったと
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He couldn't eat.
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言われています
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The great poet Emily Dickinson once said,
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詩人のエミリー ディキンソンが
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"There is no frigate like a book to take us lands away."
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“本のように 彼方へ旅させてくれる船は無い” と言ったように
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How true for Lincoln.
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リンカーンは本にのめり込み
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Though he never would travel to Europe,
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ヨーロッパ旅行をせずとも
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he went with Shakespeare's kings to merry England,
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シェイクスピアの王と共に陽気なイギリスへ行き
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he went with Lord Byron's poetry to Spain and Portugal.
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バイロンの詩と共にスペインやポルトガルに行きました
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Literature allowed him to transcend his surroundings.
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文学で彼の環境は向上したのです
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But there were so many losses in his early life
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でも 若い時に多くの死と向き合い
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that he was haunted by death.
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死に悩まされました
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His mother died when he was only nine years old;
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母は彼が9歳の時に他界
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his only sister, Sarah, in childbirth a few years later;
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数年後 姉も出産中に亡くなり
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and his first love, Ann Rutledge, at the age of 22.
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初恋の相手は22歳で他界しています
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Moreover, when his mother lay dying,
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さらに彼の母は死に際に
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she did not hold out for him the hope
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あの世で再会する―
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that they would meet in an afterworld.
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望みには触れず
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She simply said to him,
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ただ言いました
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"Abraham, I'm going away from you now, and I shall never return."
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“別れの時が来た もう戻りはしないよ”
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As a result he became obsessed with the thought
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その結果 亡くなると人生は
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that when we die our life is swept away -- dust to dust.
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微塵に消えるという考えに取りつかれました
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But only as he grew older did he develop
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でも彼は歳を重ねるにつれて
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a certain consolation from an ancient Greek notion --
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古代ギリシャの概念や
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but followed by other cultures as well --
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他の文化から ある慰みを得ました
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that if you could accomplish something worthy in your life,
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人生で価値ある何かを達成すれば
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you could live on in the memory of others.
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他者の記憶に生き続けるという考えです
02:56
Your honor and your reputation would outlive your earthly existence.
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名誉や評判で 後世に名を残すのです
03:01
And that worthy ambition became his lodestar.
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その立派な野望が彼の目標になりました
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It carried him through the one significant depression that he suffered
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30代初めに患った鬱を克服できたのも
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when he was in his early 30s.
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目標があったからです
03:09
Three things had combined to lay him low.
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彼を圧倒した三つの出来事がありました
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He had broken his engagement with Mary Todd,
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メリートッドとの婚約破棄は
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not certain he was ready to marry her,
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結婚する心構えがなかったからですが
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but knowing how devastating it was to her that he did that.
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彼女には打撃だとわかっていました
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His one intimate friend, Joshua Speed, was leaving Illinois
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無二の親友 スピードが父の死去で
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to go back to Kentucky because Speed's father had died.
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イリノイからケンタッキーへ帰って行きました
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And his political career in the state legislature
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リンカーンの州議会での
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was on a downward slide.
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政治的キャリアは低下していました
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He was so depressed that friends worried he was suicidal.
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落ち込んだ彼が自殺を図る心配をした友人は
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They took all knives and razors and scissors from his room.
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彼の部屋から刃物を取り除きました
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And his great friend Speed went to his side and said,
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親友のスピードが戻り 言いました
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"Lincoln, you must rally or you will die."
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“元気を出さなきゃ死んじゃうよ”
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He said that, "I would just as soon die right now,
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リンカーンは “今すぐにでも死ぬとも
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but I've not yet done anything to make any human being
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でも 私を覚えていてもらうには
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remember that I have lived."
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まだ何もやり遂げていない”
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So fueled by that ambition, he returned to the state legislature.
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その野望に刺激され 彼は議会へと戻り
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He eventually won a seat in Congress.
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遂に議会の座を勝ち取りました
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He then ran twice for the Senate, lost twice.
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そして上院議員に2回立候補し 2回落選
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"Everyone is broken by life," Ernest Hemingway once said,
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へミングウェイは “誰でもくじけることはあるが
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"but some people are stronger in the broken places."
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弱ったときに強くなる人もいる” と言っています
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So then he surprised the nation with an upset victory
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その後 自分より経験や教養があり
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for the presidency over three far more experienced,
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世に知られた3人のライバルを
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far more educated, far more celebrated rivals.
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大統領選で打ち破り 世間を驚かせました
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And then when he won the general election,
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彼は総選挙で当選した際
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he stunned the nation even more
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そのライバルを閣僚として迎え
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by appointing each of these three rivals into his Cabinet.
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更に世間を驚かせました
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It was an unprecedented act at the time because everybody thought,
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前代未聞の行為に 誰もが思いました
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"He'll look like a figurehead compared to these people."
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“彼はあの3人に比べて表看板のようだ”
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They said, "Why are you doing this, Lincoln?"
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“なぜ こんなことをする?” と尋ねられると
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He said, "Look, these are the strongest
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リンカーンは答えました “我が国で
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and most able men in the country.
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一番強くて出来の良い男たちだ
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The country is in peril. I need them by my side."
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この国は危険にさらされている 彼らの力が必要だ”
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But perhaps my old friend Lyndon Johnson
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リンドン ジョンソンだったら
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might have put it in less noble fashion:
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そんな表現はしなかったでしょう
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"Better to have your enemies inside the tent pissing out,
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“外にいる自分の敵にテントの中へ小便をされるより
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than outside the tent pissing in."
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中から外へされるほうがましだ”
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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But it soon became clear that Abraham Lincoln
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しかし リンカーンがこの面倒な陣容の
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would emerge as the undisputed captain of this unruly team.
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明白な司令塔であると 間もなくしてわかります
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For each of them soon came to understand
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外見上の経歴の薄さよりも ずっと大切な
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that he possessed an unparalleled array of
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無比の感情的な力と
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emotional strengths and political skills
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政治的知恵を 持ち合わせた―
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that proved far more important than the thinness of his external résumé.
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リンカーンに ライバルは気づきます
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For one thing, he possessed an uncanny ability
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まず 彼には人と共感したり
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to empathize with and to think about other peoples' point of view.
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他者の観点を思いやる超人的な力がありました
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He repaired injured feelings that might have escalated
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もつれが生じると
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into permanent hostility.
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不和を修復しました
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He shared credit with ease,
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喜んで功績を分かち合い
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assumed responsibility for the failure of his subordinates,
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部下の失敗には責任を肩代わりし
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constantly acknowledged his errors and learned from his mistakes.
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常に間違いを認め 間違いから学びました
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These are the qualities we should be looking for in our candidates in 2008.
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2008年の候補者に求めるべき素質があります
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(Applause)
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(拍手)
05:28
He refused to be provoked by petty grievances.
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些細なことで怒ることはせず
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He never submitted to jealousy or brooded over perceived slights.
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決して嫉妬や軽蔑にも振り回されなかったのです
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And he expressed his unshakeable convictions
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そして彼は不動の信念を
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in everyday language, in metaphors, in stories.
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日頃から談話や演説で表現しました
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And with a beauty of language -- almost as if
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彼が使う言葉の美しさは
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the Shakespeare and the poetry he had so loved as a child
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大好きだったシェイクスピアや詩が
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had worked their way into his very soul.
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彼の心に入りこんだようでした
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In 1863, when the Emancipation Proclamation was signed,
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1863年に奴隷解放宣言が調印されたとき
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he brought his old friend, Joshua Speed, back to the White House,
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旧友のスピードをホワイトハウスに連れ戻し
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and remembered that conversation of decades before, when he was so sad.
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彼が惨めだった何十年も前の会話を思い出しました
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And he, pointing to the Proclamation, said,
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そして 宣言書を指して言いました
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"I believe, in this measure, my fondest hopes will be realized."
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“この法令によって私の一番の願いが実現するんだね”
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But as he was about to put his signature on the Proclamation
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しかし彼が宣言書に署名しようとした時
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his own hand was numb and shaking
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手が震えていました
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because he had shaken a thousand hands that morning at a New Year's reception.
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大勢の人と握手をしていたからです
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So he put the pen down.
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彼はペンを置き 言いました
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He said, "If ever my soul were in an act, it is in this act.
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“精魂を込めるとは このことだ
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But if I sign with a shaking hand,
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でも震える手で署名すれば
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posterity will say, 'He hesitated.'"
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躊躇したと言い継がれるだろう”
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So he waited until he could take up the pen
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彼はペンを持てるまで待ち
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and sign with a bold and clear hand.
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力強くはっきりとした手で署名したのです
06:28
But even in his wildest dreams,
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しかし リンカーンには
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Lincoln could never have imagined
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自らの評判の成長ぶりは
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how far his reputation would reach.
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想像もつきませんでした
06:33
I was so thrilled to find an interview with the great Russian writer,
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作家のトルストイを1900年代初頭に取材した記事を
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Leo Tolstoy, in a New York newspaper in the early 1900s.
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私はニューヨークの新聞で見つけて興奮しました
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And in it, Tolstoy told of a trip that he'd recently made
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その記事でトルストイは外に出たことのない―
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to a very remote area of the Caucasus,
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野蛮人だけが住むロシアの
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where there were only wild barbarians,
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人里離れた場所に行ったと
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who had never left this part of Russia.
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語っていました
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Knowing that Tolstoy was in their midst,
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トルストイを知っていた彼らは
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they asked him to tell stories of the great men of history.
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歴史上の偉大な人物の話をして欲しいと頼みました
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So he said, "I told them about Napoleon
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トルストイ曰く “ナポレオンや
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and Alexander the Great and Frederick the Great
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フリードリヒ大王や シーザーの
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and Julius Caesar, and they loved it.
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話をしたら 彼らは喜んだ
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But before I finished, the chief of the barbarians stood up and said,
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話し終える前に野蛮人のボスが立ち上がり言った
07:04
'But wait, you haven't told us about the greatest ruler of them all.
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‘待ってくれ 一番偉大な支配者のことを聴いていない
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We want to hear about that man who spoke with a voice of thunder,
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雷の声で話し 日の出のように笑う男
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who laughed like the sunrise,
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若者が旅したならば
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who came from that place called America, which is so far from here,
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到着するころには年寄りになるほど
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that if a young man should travel there,
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遠く離れたアメリカという場所から
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he would be an old man when he arrived.
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来た男の話が聴きたい
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Tell us of that man. Tell us of Abraham Lincoln.'"
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リンカーンの話をしてくれないか’”
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He was stunned.
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トルストイは驚くも
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He told them everything he could about Lincoln.
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知っている事は全て話しました
07:26
And then in the interview he said, "What made Lincoln so great?
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トルストイは取材の中で
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Not as great a general as Napoleon,
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ナポレオンやフリードリヒ大王ほど
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not as great a statesman as Frederick the Great."
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リンカーンは卓越していなかった と言っています
07:33
But his greatness consisted, and historians would roundly agree,
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しかし 歴史学者が口をそろえて言うように
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in the integrity of his character
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彼の偉大さとは 誠実さや
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and the moral fiber of his being.
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気骨稜稜とした本質にありました
07:40
So in the end that powerful ambition
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ですから 侘しい子供時代を通して駆り立てた―
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that had carried Lincoln through his bleak childhood had been realized.
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強力な意思が 最終的に現れたのです
07:45
That ambition that had allowed him to laboriously educate himself by himself,
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苦心して独学し 一連の政治上の失敗や
07:50
to go through that string of political failures
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戦時中の暗い日々を
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and the darkest days of the war.
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耐え抜かせた野望です
07:54
His story would be told.
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語り継がれる彼の話です
07:57
So as for that second sphere, not of work, but of love --
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家族や友達や同僚を含む―
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encompassing family, friends and colleagues --
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二つめの「愛」に関しても
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it, too, takes work and commitment.
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仕事やコミットメントが必要です
08:06
The Lyndon Johnson that I saw in the last years of his life,
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私がジョンソンの回顧録作成に関わり
08:08
when I helped him on his memoirs,
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最期までに見た彼は
08:10
was a man who had spent so many years in the pursuit of
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仕事の追求 権力 功名に何年も費やし
08:13
work, power and individual success,
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大統領引退後には
08:15
that he had absolutely no psychic or emotional resources left
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日々を切り抜いていく魂や意欲は
08:19
to get him through the days
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まったく
08:20
once the presidency was gone.
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残っていませんでした
08:23
My relationship with him began on a rather curious level.
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彼とはユニークな出会い方をしました
08:26
I was selected as a White House Fellow when I was 24 years old.
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24歳の時 私はホワイトハウスフェローに選ばれました
08:29
We had a big dance at the White House.
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ホワイトハウスでパーティーがあり
08:31
President Johnson did dance with me that night.
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私は彼と踊ったのです
08:33
Not that peculiar --
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女は3人だけだったので
08:34
there were only three women out of the 16 White House Fellows.
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不思議ではありませんが
08:36
But he did whisper in my ear that he wanted me
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彼は官邸で彼の下で働いてほしいと
08:39
to work directly for him in the White House.
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私の耳元で囁きました
08:41
But it was not to be that simple.
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厄介なことに
08:42
For in the months leading up to my selection,
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私は その何か月も前から
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like many young people, I'd been active
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他の若者のように
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in the anti-Vietnam War movement,
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反ベトナム戦争運動に積極的で
08:48
and had written an article against Lyndon Johnson,
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私の書いたジョンソン批判の記事が
08:51
which unfortunately came out in The New Republic
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不幸にもパーティーの
08:52
two days after the dance in the White House.
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二日後に新聞に載ったのです
08:54
(Laugher)
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(笑)
08:56
And the theme of the article was how to remove Lyndon Johnson from power.
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ジョンソンを いかに政権から降ろすか という記事でした
08:59
(Laughter)
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(笑)
09:00
So I was certain he would kick me out of the program.
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彼に嫌われると思いましたが
09:03
But instead, surprisingly, he said,
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驚くことに彼は言ったのです
09:04
"Oh, bring her down here for a year,
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“彼女を一年ここに連れて来なさい
09:06
and if I can't win her over, no one can."
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彼女を説得できるのは 私だけだ”
09:09
So I did end up working for him in the White House.
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それで 官邸で仕えることになり
09:11
Eventually accompanied him to his ranch to help him on those memoirs,
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採用された理由を理解しないまま
09:13
never fully understanding why he'd chosen me to spend so many hours with.
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回顧録作成のため 彼の牧場について行きました
09:17
I like to believe it was because I was a good listener.
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私が聞き上手だったからだと信じたいです
09:20
He was a great storyteller.
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彼の話には
09:21
Fabulous, colorful, anecdotal stories.
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人を引き込む力がありました
09:23
There was a problem with these stories, however,
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でも 話の半分は
09:25
which I later discovered, which is that half of them weren't true.
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尾ひれがついていたと 後でわかりました
09:28
But they were great, nonetheless.
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それでも
09:29
(Laughter)
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素晴らしかったのです
09:30
So I think that part of his attraction for me was that I loved listening to his tall tales.
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ですから 彼の話に魅了された私に惹かれたのだと思いますが
09:35
But I also worried that part of it was that I was then a young woman.
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私の若さも理由かと心配しました
09:38
And he had somewhat of a minor league womanizing reputation.
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彼が女たらしだという噂もあったので
09:41
So I constantly chatted to him about boyfriends,
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私は恋人がいない時でさえ
09:43
even when I didn't have any at all.
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常に彼には恋人の話をしていました
09:45
Everything was working perfectly,
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彼が我々の関係について
09:46
until one day he said he wanted to discuss our relationship.
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話をしたいと言った日まで 全ては完璧でした
09:48
Sounded very ominous when he took me nearby to the lake,
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都合良く リンドンBジョンソン湖と名づけられた
09:51
conveniently called Lake Lyndon Baines Johnson.
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湖に連れていかれたときは 変な予感がしました
09:54
And there was wine and cheese and a red-checked tablecloth --
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ワインやチーズなどが
09:56
all the romantic trappings.
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ロマンチックに並んだ中で
09:58
And he started out,
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彼は言いました
09:59
"Doris, more than any other woman I have ever known ... "
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“ドリス 私が知るどんな女性よりも…”
10:01
And my heart sank.
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私の心は沈みました
10:03
And then he said,
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そのときです
10:04
"You remind me of my mother."
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“君はオフクロを思い出すよ”
10:06
(Laughter)
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(笑)
10:07
It was pretty embarrassing, given what was going on in my mind.
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私が想像していた事を考えると恥ずかしい話ですが
10:13
But I must say, the older I've gotten,
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晩年の名士と何時間も
10:15
the more I realize what an incredible privilege it was
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過ごせたのは光栄だったと
10:17
to have spent so many hours with this aging lion of a man.
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年齢を重ねるに連れて感じます
10:20
A victor in a thousand contests,
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数々の争いの勝者であり
10:22
three great civil rights laws, Medicare, aid to education.
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三大公民権 老人医療保障制度 教育援助を確立させた男です
10:27
And yet, roundly defeated in the end by the war in Vietnam.
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しかしベトナム戦争で支持率は急落
10:30
And because he was so sad and so vulnerable,
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彼はあまりの悲しさと弱さから
10:32
he opened up to me in ways he never would have
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権力者として絶頂期にいたときには
10:34
had I known him at the height of his power --
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決して見せなかった恐怖心や
10:36
sharing his fears, his sorrows and his worries.
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悲しみや心配事を話し出しました
10:39
And I'd like to believe that the privilege fired within me
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ジョンソンと過ごせたことにより 私が後に本にした―
10:42
the drive to understand the inner person behind the public figure,
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社会的地位のある人間の心の内を
10:45
that I've tried to bring to each of my books since then.
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理解しようと駆り立てられました
10:49
But it also brought home to me the lessons
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しかし エリクソンが我々に伝授しようとした
10:51
which Erik Erikson had tried to instill in all of us
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人生のバランスを見つける大切さの
10:54
about the importance of finding balance in life.
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教えにも共感しました
10:57
For on the surface, Lyndon Johnson should have had
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外見上ジョンソンは
10:59
everything in the world to feel good about in those last years,
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大統領になったという意味では 亡くなるまで
11:03
in the sense that he had been elected to the presidency;
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幸せに必要なものは持っていたはずです
11:05
he had all the money he needed to pursue
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彼には どんな楽しみをも
11:07
any leisure activity he wanted;
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手に入れられる経済力がありました
11:09
he owned a spacious ranch in the countryside, a penthouse in the city,
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田舎には広大な牧場 街にはペントハウス
11:12
sailboats, speedboats.
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ヨットやスピードボートも持っており
11:14
He had servants to answer any whim,
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どんな気まぐれにも応えてくれる使用人と
11:16
and he had a family who loved him deeply.
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心から愛してくれる家族がいました
11:20
And yet, years of concentration solely on work and individual success
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それでも長年 仕事と個人的成功だけに専念したために
11:23
meant that in his retirement he could find no solace
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引退したときには 家族にも 気晴らしにも
11:27
in family, in recreation, in sports or in hobbies.
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スポーツにも 趣味にも 慰めを見いだせませんでした
11:31
It was almost as if the hole in his heart was so large
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仕事なしには 家族の愛さえも
11:34
that even the love of a family, without work, could not fill it.
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心に開いた大きな穴を塞げないように見えました
11:37
As his spirits sagged, his body deteriorated
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彼の精神と共に 体も衰え
11:40
until, I believe, he slowly brought about his own death.
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自らの死を招いたように感じます
11:44
In those last years, he said he was so sad
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米国人が新大統領に期待し
11:46
watching the American people look toward a new president and forgetting him.
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自分が忘れられるのは悲しいと 他界する前の数年間 言っていました
11:50
He spoke with immense sadness in his voice,
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彼は非常に悲しい声で
11:52
saying maybe he should have spent more time with his children,
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子どもや孫と多くの時間を
11:54
and their children in turn.
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過ごすべきだったと言いました
11:56
But it was too late.
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でも遅すぎました
11:58
Despite all that power, all that wealth,
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あれだけの力や富にも関わらず
12:00
he was alone when he finally died --
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彼がもっとも恐れていたように
12:02
his ultimate terror realized.
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孤独な死を遂げました
12:05
So as for that third sphere of play,
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彼が決して学ぶことのなかった―
12:07
which he never had learned to enjoy,
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三つ目の「遊び」には
12:09
I've learned over the years
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時間とエネルギーが必要だと
12:11
that even this sphere requires a commitment of time and energy --
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私は何年もかけて学びました
12:14
enough so that a hobby, a sport, a love of music,
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スポーツ 音楽 芸術 文学 またはどんな趣味でも
12:18
or art, or literature, or any form of recreation,
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喜び 安らぎ 充足感を
12:21
can provide true pleasure, relaxation and replenishment.
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与えることがわかりました
12:25
So deep, for instance, was Abraham Lincoln's love of Shakespeare,
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シェイクスピアを愛していたリンカーンは
12:28
that he made time to spend more than a hundred nights in the theater,
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戦時中の暗い日々でさえ 何百回も
12:32
even during those dark days of the war.
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劇場に足を運びました
12:34
He said, when the lights went down and a Shakespeare play came on,
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灯りが消えシェイクスピアの演劇が始まると
12:37
for a few precious hours he could imagine himself
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その貴重な数時間はハル王子の時代に
12:40
back in Prince Hal's time.
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タイムトリップできると言いました
12:43
But an even more important form of relaxation for him,
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しかし ジョンソンが楽しめなかった―
12:45
that Lyndon Johnson never could enjoy,
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リンカーンのもっと重要な骨休めは
12:47
was a love of -- somehow -- humor,
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ユーモアに対する愛と
12:51
and feeling out what hilarious parts of life can produce
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悲しみへの測光として
12:54
as a sidelight to the sadness.
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人生の面白みを探求することです
12:56
He once said that he laughed so he did not cry,
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彼は泣かないように笑ったと言いました
13:00
that a good story, for him, was better than a drop of whiskey.
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彼はウィスキー1滴より 良い話を好みました
13:04
His storytelling powers had first been recognized
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彼の話力はイリノイを巡回したとき
13:06
when he was on the circuit in Illinois.
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初めて注目されました
13:07
The lawyers and the judges would travel
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弁護士と裁判官が郡庁舎を
13:09
from one county courthouse to the other,
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順繰り回るのですが
13:11
and when anyone was knowing Lincoln was in town,
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リンカーンの話を聴きたくて
13:14
they would come from miles around to listen to him tell stories.
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大勢の人が やって来ました
13:16
He would stand with his back against a fire
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彼は火を背に立って
13:18
and entertain the crowd for hours with his winding tales.
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いろいろな話で聴衆を何時間も惹きつけました
13:22
And all these stories became part of his memory bank,
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彼は数々の話を記憶しており
13:24
so he could call on them whenever he needed to.
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必要な時はいつでも思い出すことができました
13:27
And they're not quite what you might expect from our marble monument.
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坐像からは想像できない数々の逸話―
13:29
One of his favorite stories, for example,
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例えば 彼のお気に入りは
13:31
had to do with the Revolutionary War hero, Ethan Allen.
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独立戦争の英雄 イーサン アレンの話でした
13:34
And as Lincoln told the story,
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彼の語り口で話してみます
13:36
Mr. Allen went to Britain after the war.
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アレンが英国へ行ったとき
13:38
And the British people were still upset
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英国人は独立戦争に負けたことで
13:40
about losing the Revolution,
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まだ機嫌を害していて
13:41
so they decided to embarrass him a little bit
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彼に恥ずかしい思いをさせようと
13:43
by putting a huge picture of General Washington
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屋外便所の中にワシントン将軍の
13:46
in the only outhouse, where he'd have to encounter it.
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巨大な写真を貼っておいたのです
13:48
They figured he'd be upset about the indignity
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そんな侮辱をされれば
13:50
of George Washington being in an outhouse.
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怒るだろうと思ったのに
13:52
But he came out of the outhouse not upset at all.
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彼は全然怒りませんでした
13:54
And so they said, "Well, did you see George Washington in there?"
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“便所の中のワシントンを見た?” と尋ねる彼らに
13:57
"Oh, yes," he said, "perfectly appropriate place for him."
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“見たさ 彼には完璧な場所だ” とアレン
14:00
"What do you mean?" they said.
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“どういう意味だい?”
14:02
"Well," he said, "there's nothing to make an Englishman shit
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“将軍に見られたら 英国人は
14:05
faster than the sight of General George Washington."
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ゆっくりクソもしてられないさ”
14:08
(Laughter)
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(笑)
14:10
(Applause)
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(拍手)
14:12
So you can imagine, if you are in the middle of a tense cabinet meeting --
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張りつめた閣議の途中で
14:16
and he had hundreds of these stories --
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このような話をされれば
14:18
you would have to relax.
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肩の力も抜けるわけです
14:21
So between his nightly treks to the theater,
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リンカーンは毎晩 劇場に行ったり
14:23
his story telling, and his extraordinary sense of humor
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並はずれたユーモアを披露したり
14:27
and his love of quoting Shakespeare and poetry,
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シェイクスピアや詩を引用しながら
14:29
he found that form of play which carried him through his days.
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日々を頑張り通す遊びを見いだしました
14:33
In my own life, I shall always be grateful
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私の場合 野球の大ファンとなって
14:36
for having found a form of play in my irrational love of baseball.
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遊びを見いだせたのは ありがたいことです
14:39
Which allows me, from the beginning of spring training
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春のトレーニング開始時期から
14:42
to the end of the fall,
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秋の終わりまで
14:43
to have something to occupy my mind and heart
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仕事以外に熱中できることを
14:45
other than my work.
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見つけられました
14:47
It all began when I was only six years old,
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それは私が6歳の時に始まりました
14:49
and my father taught me that mysterious art of keeping score
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野球中継を聴きながら スコアの付け方を
14:51
while listening to baseball games --
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私の父が教えてくれました
14:53
so that when he went to work in New York during the day,
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父が仕事をしている昼間に
14:56
I could record for him the history of that afternoon's
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私がドジャーズ戦の経過を
14:58
Brooklyn Dodgers game.
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記録できるようにです
15:00
Now, when you're only six years old,
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6歳の子にとって
15:01
and your father comes home every single night
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父親が毎晩帰宅し
15:02
and listens to you -- as I now realize that I, in excruciating detail,
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耳を傾けてくれるのです 耐えがたい詳細と共に
15:06
recounted every single play of every inning
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その日の試合の
15:07
of the game that had just taken place that afternoon.
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イニング毎の試合運びを述べました
15:10
But he made me feel I was telling him a fabulous story.
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でも父は 素晴らしい話をしているような気にさせてくれました
15:13
It makes you think there's something magic about history
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父の注意を引き留めるのに
15:15
to keep your father's attention.
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物語には魔法があると思わされます
15:17
In fact, I'm convinced I learned the narrative art
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私は父と毎晩に渡る話で
15:19
from those nightly sessions with my father.
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話法を学んだと確信しています
15:21
Because at first, I'd be so excited I would blurt out,
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なぜなら 最初はあまりの興奮で
15:23
"The Dodgers won!" or, "The Dodgers lost!"
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“ドジャースが勝った!” とか “負けた!” と
15:25
Which took much of the drama of this two-hour telling away.
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うっかり2時間の話の要点を言ってしまうからです
15:28
(Laughter)
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(笑)
15:29
So I finally learned you had to tell a story
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結局 順を追って話をするよう
15:31
from beginning to middle to end.
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学びました
15:33
I must say, so fervent was my love
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私は当時 ドジャースの
15:35
of the old Brooklyn Dodgers in those days
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熱狂的ファンだったので
15:37
that I had to confess in my first confession
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初めての懺悔では
15:39
two sins that related to baseball.
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野球関連の罪を二つ告白しました
15:41
The first occurred because the Dodgers' catcher, Roy Campanella,
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一つめはドジャースの捕手 ロイ カンパネラが
15:44
came to my hometown of Rockville Centre, Long Island,
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私の聖餐式の準備中に
15:46
just as I was in preparation for my first Holy Communion.
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私の故郷に来たのです
15:49
And I was so excited --
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球場以外の場所で
15:51
first person I'd ever see outside of Ebbets Field.
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選手を見られる事に舞い上がりました
15:53
But it so happened he was speaking in a Protestant Church.
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でも彼は新教教会で話すことになっていました
15:56
When you are brought up as a Catholic, you think
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カトリック教徒にすれば
15:57
that if you ever set foot in a Protestant Church,
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新教教会に入るなんて
15:59
you'll be struck dead at the threshold.
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敷居をまたいだ時点で殺されます
16:01
So I went to my father in tears, "What are we going to do?"
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私が涙目で訴えると
16:03
He said, "Don't worry. He's speaking in a parish hall.
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父は “スポーツマン精神の話を
16:05
We're sitting in folding chairs. He's talking about sportsmanship.
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聞くだけだから罪ではないよ” と
16:07
It's not a sin."
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言いました
16:08
But as I left that night, I was certain that somehow
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でも その講演の夜 なぜか私は
16:11
I'd traded the life of my everlasting soul
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カンパネラとの晩と引き換えに
16:13
for this one night with Roy Campanella.
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永遠の魂を失ったように感じました
16:15
(Laughter)
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(笑)
16:16
And there were no indulgences around that I could buy.
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私が買える免罪符はなかったので
16:19
So I had this sin on my soul when I went to my first confession.
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初めての懺悔では この罪を
16:22
I told the priest right away.
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神父様に告白しました
16:23
He said, "No problem. It wasn't a religious service."
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“大丈夫 それは宗教と関係ありません”
16:25
But then, unfortunately, he said, "And what else, my child?"
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でも “他には?” と不幸にも聞かれ
16:28
And then came my second sin.
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二つめの罪を言ったのです
16:30
I tried to sandwich it in between talking too much in church,
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私が呪いをかけている事を
16:32
wishing harm to others, being mean to my sisters.
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他の事に割り込ませて言いました
16:35
And he said, "To whom did you wish harm?"
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神父様は “誰にそんな呪いを?”
16:37
And I had to say that I wished that various New York Yankees players
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私はヤンキース選手が骨折すればいいと
16:41
would break arms, legs and ankles --
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思っていたと言いました
16:43
(Laughter)
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(笑)
16:44
-- so that the Brooklyn Dodgers could win their first World Series.
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ドジャースのワールドシリーズでの初勝利を願っていたのです
16:47
He said, "How often do you make these horrible wishes?"
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呪いの頻度を聞かれ
16:48
And I had to say, every night when I said my prayers.
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お祈りする毎晩と答えました
16:51
(Laughter)
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(笑)
16:52
So he said, "Look, I'll tell you something.
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“私だってドジャースが
16:53
I love the Brooklyn Dodgers, as you do,
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大好きさ でも いつの日か
16:55
but I promise you some day they will win fairly and squarely.
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彼らは正々堂々と勝ってくれるよ
16:58
You do not need to wish harm on others to make it happen."
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そんなお願いは必要ないよ”
17:00
"Oh yes," I said.
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私は “はい” と言いました
17:01
But luckily, my first confession -- to a baseball-loving priest!
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初懺悔をしたのが野球好きな神父様で良かったです
17:04
(Laughter)
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(笑)
17:05
Well, though my father died of a sudden heart attack
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私が結婚して3人の息子が生まれる前の
17:08
when I was still in my 20s,
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20代の時に
17:09
before I had gotten married and had my three sons,
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父が突然 心臓発作で亡くなりましたが
17:13
I have passed his memory -- as well as his love of baseball -- on to my boys.
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父の思い出と野球熱は息子に受け継ぎました
17:17
Though when the Dodgers abandoned us to come to L.A.,
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ドジャースがロスに移ったときは
17:19
I lost faith in baseball until I moved to Boston
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野球への関心が薄れましたが ボストンに引っ越して
17:23
and became an irrational Red Sox fan.
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レッドソックスの大ファンになりました
17:26
And I must say, even now, when I sit with my sons
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今でも シーズンチケットを買って
17:28
with our season tickets,
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息子と共に座っているときに
17:30
I can sometimes close my eyes against the sun
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時々 太陽に向かって目を閉じると
17:32
and imagine myself, a young girl once more, in the presence of my father,
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少女に戻り 父の存在を感じながら 芝の野球場にいる
17:36
watching the players of my youth on the grassy fields below:
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当時の選手を見ている気分になります
17:39
Jackie Robinson, Roy Campanella, Pee Wee Reese, and Duke Snider.
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ジャッキー ロビンソン ロイ カンパネラ ピーウィー リース デューク スナイダー
17:43
I must say there is magic in these moments.
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魔法を感じる瞬間です
17:45
When I open my eyes and I see my sons
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目を開け かつて父がいた場所に
17:47
in the place where my father once sat,
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息子たちを見ると
17:50
I feel an invisible loyalty and love
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息子たちが会ったことのない父と
17:52
linking my sons to the grandfather whose face they never had a chance to see,
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忠誠心や愛でつながっているのを感じます
17:56
but whose heart and soul they have come to know
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私の話を通じて
17:58
through all the stories I have told.
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父の心が分かるようになったのでしょう
18:01
Which is why, in the end, I shall always be grateful for this curious love of history,
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だから 過去を振り返るのに一生をかけさせてくれた―
18:04
allowing me to spend a lifetime looking back into the past.
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歴史に対する好奇心に私はいつも感謝するのです
18:08
Allowing me to learn from these large figures
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このような偉人から人生の辛苦がもつ
18:11
about the struggle for meaning for life.
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意味を学ばさせてもらい
18:13
Allowing me to believe that the private people
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亡くなった愛する家族や
18:15
we have loved and lost in our families,
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歴史上の尊敬する著名人を
18:17
and the public figures we have respected in our history,
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信じさせてもらい
18:20
just as Abraham Lincoln wanted to believe,
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リンカーンが望んだように
18:22
really can live on, so long as we pledge
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彼らの人生を何度も語る約束をすると
18:25
to tell and to retell the stories of their lives.
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彼らは確かに生き続けるのです
18:29
Thank you for letting me be that storyteller today.
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今日はこの話をさせてもらえて光栄です
18:31
(Applause)
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(拍手)
18:32
Thank you.
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ありがとう
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