Allan Jones: A map of the brain

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Humans have long held a fascination
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for the human brain.
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We chart it, we've described it,
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we've drawn it,
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we've mapped it.
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Now just like the physical maps of our world
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that have been highly influenced by technology --
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think Google Maps,
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think GPS --
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the same thing is happening for brain mapping
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through transformation.
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So let's take a look at the brain.
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Most people, when they first look at a fresh human brain,
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they say, "It doesn't look what you're typically looking at
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when someone shows you a brain."
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Typically, what you're looking at is a fixed brain. It's gray.
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And this outer layer, this is the vasculature,
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which is incredible, around a human brain.
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This is the blood vessels.
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20 percent of the oxygen
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coming from your lungs,
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20 percent of the blood pumped from your heart,
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is servicing this one organ.
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That's basically, if you hold two fists together,
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it's just slightly larger than the two fists.
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Scientists, sort of at the end of the 20th century,
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learned that they could track blood flow
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to map non-invasively
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where activity was going on in the human brain.
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So for example, they can see in the back part of the brain,
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which is just turning around there.
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There's the cerebellum; that's keeping you upright right now.
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It's keeping me standing. It's involved in coordinated movement.
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On the side here, this is temporal cortex.
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This is the area where primary auditory processing --
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so you're hearing my words,
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you're sending it up into higher language processing centers.
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Towards the front of the brain
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is the place in which all of the more complex thought, decision making --
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it's the last to mature in late adulthood.
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This is where all your decision-making processes are going on.
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It's the place where you're deciding right now
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you probably aren't going to order the steak for dinner.
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So if you take a deeper look at the brain,
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one of the things, if you look at it in cross-section,
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what you can see
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is that you can't really see a whole lot of structure there.
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But there's actually a lot of structure there.
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It's cells and it's wires all wired together.
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So about a hundred years ago,
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some scientists invented a stain that would stain cells.
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And that's shown here in the the very light blue.
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You can see areas
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where neuronal cell bodies are being stained.
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And what you can see is it's very non-uniform. You see a lot more structure there.
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So the outer part of that brain
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is the neocortex.
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It's one continuous processing unit, if you will.
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But you can also see things underneath there as well.
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And all of these blank areas
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are the areas in which the wires are running through.
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They're probably less cell dense.
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So there's about 86 billion neurons in our brain.
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And as you can see, they're very non-uniformly distributed.
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And how they're distributed really contributes
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to their underlying function.
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And of course, as I mentioned before,
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since we can now start to map brain function,
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we can start to tie these into the individual cells.
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So let's take a deeper look.
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Let's look at neurons.
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So as I mentioned, there are 86 billion neurons.
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There are also these smaller cells as you'll see.
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These are support cells -- astrocytes glia.
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And the nerves themselves
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are the ones who are receiving input.
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They're storing it, they're processing it.
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Each neuron is connected via synapses
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to up to 10,000 other neurons in your brain.
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And each neuron itself
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is largely unique.
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The unique character of both individual neurons
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and neurons within a collection of the brain
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are driven by fundamental properties
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of their underlying biochemistry.
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These are proteins.
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They're proteins that are controlling things like ion channel movement.
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They're controlling who nervous system cells partner up with.
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And they're controlling
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basically everything that the nervous system has to do.
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So if we zoom in to an even deeper level,
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all of those proteins
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are encoded by our genomes.
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We each have 23 pairs of chromosomes.
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We get one from mom, one from dad.
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And on these chromosomes
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are roughly 25,000 genes.
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They're encoded in the DNA.
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And the nature of a given cell
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driving its underlying biochemistry
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is dictated by which of these 25,000 genes
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are turned on
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and at what level they're turned on.
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And so our project
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is seeking to look at this readout,
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understanding which of these 25,000 genes is turned on.
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So in order to undertake such a project,
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we obviously need brains.
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So we sent our lab technician out.
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We were seeking normal human brains.
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What we actually start with
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is a medical examiner's office.
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This a place where the dead are brought in.
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We are seeking normal human brains.
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There's a lot of criteria by which we're selecting these brains.
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We want to make sure
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that we have normal humans between the ages of 20 to 60,
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they died a somewhat natural death
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with no injury to the brain,
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no history of psychiatric disease,
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no drugs on board --
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we do a toxicology workup.
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And we're very careful
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about the brains that we do take.
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We're also selecting for brains
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in which we can get the tissue,
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we can get consent to take the tissue
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within 24 hours of time of death.
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Because what we're trying to measure, the RNA --
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which is the readout from our genes --
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is very labile,
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and so we have to move very quickly.
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One side note on the collection of brains:
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because of the way that we collect,
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and because we require consent,
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we actually have a lot more male brains than female brains.
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Males are much more likely to die an accidental death in the prime of their life.
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And men are much more likely
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to have their significant other, spouse, give consent
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than the other way around.
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(Laughter)
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So the first thing that we do at the site of collection
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is we collect what's called an MR.
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This is magnetic resonance imaging -- MRI.
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It's a standard template by which we're going to hang the rest of this data.
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So we collect this MR.
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And you can think of this as our satellite view for our map.
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The next thing we do
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is we collect what's called a diffusion tensor imaging.
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This maps the large cabling in the brain.
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And again, you can think of this
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as almost mapping our interstate highways, if you will.
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The brain is removed from the skull,
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and then it's sliced into one-centimeter slices.
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And those are frozen solid,
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and they're shipped to Seattle.
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And in Seattle, we take these --
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this is a whole human hemisphere --
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and we put them into what's basically a glorified meat slicer.
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There's a blade here that's going to cut across
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a section of the tissue
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and transfer it to a microscope slide.
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We're going to then apply one of those stains to it,
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and we scan it.
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And then what we get is our first mapping.
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So this is where experts come in
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and they make basic anatomic assignments.
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You could consider this state boundaries, if you will,
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those pretty broad outlines.
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From this, we're able to then fragment that brain into further pieces,
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which then we can put on a smaller cryostat.
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And this is just showing this here --
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this frozen tissue, and it's being cut.
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This is 20 microns thin, so this is about a baby hair's width.
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And remember, it's frozen.
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And so you can see here,
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old-fashioned technology of the paintbrush being applied.
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We take a microscope slide.
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Then we very carefully melt onto the slide.
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This will then go onto a robot
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that's going to apply one of those stains to it.
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And our anatomists are going to go in and take a deeper look at this.
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So again this is what they can see under the microscope.
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You can see collections and configurations
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of large and small cells
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in clusters and various places.
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And from there it's routine. They understand where to make these assignments.
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And they can make basically what's a reference atlas.
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This is a more detailed map.
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Our scientists then use this
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to go back to another piece of that tissue
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and do what's called laser scanning microdissection.
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So the technician takes the instructions.
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They scribe along a place there.
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And then the laser actually cuts.
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You can see that blue dot there cutting. And that tissue falls off.
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You can see on the microscope slide here,
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that's what's happening in real time.
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There's a container underneath that's collecting that tissue.
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We take that tissue,
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we purify the RNA out of it
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using some basic technology,
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and then we put a florescent tag on it.
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We take that tagged material
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and we put it on to something called a microarray.
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Now this may look like a bunch of dots to you,
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but each one of these individual dots
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is actually a unique piece of the human genome
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that we spotted down on glass.
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This has roughly 60,000 elements on it,
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so we repeatedly measure various genes
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of the 25,000 genes in the genome.
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And when we take a sample and we hybridize it to it,
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we get a unique fingerprint, if you will,
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quantitatively of what genes are turned on in that sample.
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Now we do this over and over again,
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this process for any given brain.
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We're taking over a thousand samples for each brain.
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This area shown here is an area called the hippocampus.
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It's involved in learning and memory.
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And it contributes to about 70 samples
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of those thousand samples.
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So each sample gets us about 50,000 data points
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with repeat measurements, a thousand samples.
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So roughly, we have 50 million data points
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for a given human brain.
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We've done right now
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two human brains-worth of data.
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We've put all of that together
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into one thing,
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and I'll show you what that synthesis looks like.
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It's basically a large data set of information
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that's all freely available to any scientist around the world.
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They don't even have to log in to come use this tool,
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mine this data, find interesting things out with this.
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So here's the modalities that we put together.
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You'll start to recognize these things from what we've collected before.
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Here's the MR. It provides the framework.
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There's an operator side on the right that allows you to turn,
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it allows you to zoom in,
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it allows you to highlight individual structures.
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But most importantly,
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we're now mapping into this anatomic framework,
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which is a common framework for people to understand where genes are turned on.
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So the red levels
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are where a gene is turned on to a great degree.
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Green is the sort of cool areas where it's not turned on.
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And each gene gives us a fingerprint.
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And remember that we've assayed all the 25,000 genes in the genome
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and have all of that data available.
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So what can scientists learn about this data?
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We're just starting to look at this data ourselves.
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There's some basic things that you would want to understand.
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Two great examples are drugs,
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Prozac and Wellbutrin.
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These are commonly prescribed antidepressants.
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Now remember, we're assaying genes.
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Genes send the instructions to make proteins.
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Proteins are targets for drugs.
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So drugs bind to proteins
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and either turn them off, etc.
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So if you want to understand the action of drugs,
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you want to understand how they're acting in the ways you want them to,
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and also in the ways you don't want them to.
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In the side effect profile, etc.,
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you want to see where those genes are turned on.
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And for the first time, we can actually do that.
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We can do that in multiple individuals that we've assayed too.
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So now we can look throughout the brain.
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We can see this unique fingerprint.
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And we get confirmation.
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We get confirmation that, indeed, the gene is turned on --
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for something like Prozac,
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in serotonergic structures, things that are already known be affected --
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but we also get to see the whole thing.
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We also get to see areas that no one has ever looked at before,
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and we see these genes turned on there.
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It's as interesting a side effect as it could be.
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One other thing you can do with such a thing
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is you can, because it's a pattern matching exercise,
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because there's unique fingerprint,
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we can actually scan through the entire genome
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and find other proteins
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that show a similar fingerprint.
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So if you're in drug discovery, for example,
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you can go through
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an entire listing of what the genome has on offer
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to find perhaps better drug targets and optimize.
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Most of you are probably familiar
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with genome-wide association studies
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in the form of people covering in the news
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saying, "Scientists have recently discovered the gene or genes
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which affect X."
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And so these kinds of studies
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are routinely published by scientists
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and they're great. They analyze large populations.
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They look at their entire genomes,
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and they try to find hot spots of activity
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that are linked causally to genes.
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But what you get out of such an exercise
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is simply a list of genes.
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It tells you the what, but it doesn't tell you the where.
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And so it's very important for those researchers
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that we've created this resource.
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Now they can come in
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and they can start to get clues about activity.
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They can start to look at common pathways --
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other things that they simply haven't been able to do before.
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So I think this audience in particular
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can understand the importance of individuality.
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And I think every human,
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we all have different genetic backgrounds,
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we all have lived separate lives.
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But the fact is
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our genomes are greater than 99 percent similar.
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We're similar at the genetic level.
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And what we're finding
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is actually, even at the brain biochemical level,
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we are quite similar.
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And so this shows it's not 99 percent,
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but it's roughly 90 percent correspondence
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at a reasonable cutoff,
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so everything in the cloud is roughly correlated.
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And then we find some outliers,
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some things that lie beyond the cloud.
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And those genes are interesting,
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but they're very subtle.
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So I think it's an important message
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to take home today
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that even though we celebrate all of our differences,
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we are quite similar
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even at the brain level.
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Now what do those differences look like?
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This is an example of a study that we did
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to follow up and see what exactly those differences were --
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and they're quite subtle.
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These are things where genes are turned on in an individual cell type.
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These are two genes that we found as good examples.
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One is called RELN -- it's involved in early developmental cues.
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DISC1 is a gene
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that's deleted in schizophrenia.
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These aren't schizophrenic individuals,
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but they do show some population variation.
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And so what you're looking at here
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in donor one and donor four,
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which are the exceptions to the other two,
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that genes are being turned on
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in a very specific subset of cells.
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It's this dark purple precipitate within the cell
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that's telling us a gene is turned on there.
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Whether or not that's due
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to an individual's genetic background or their experiences,
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we don't know.
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Those kinds of studies require much larger populations.
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So I'm going to leave you with a final note
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about the complexity of the brain
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and how much more we have to go.
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I think these resources are incredibly valuable.
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They give researchers a handle
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on where to go.
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But we only looked at a handful of individuals at this point.
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We're certainly going to be looking at more.
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I'll just close by saying
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that the tools are there,
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and this is truly an unexplored, undiscovered continent.
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This is the new frontier, if you will.
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And so for those who are undaunted,
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but humbled by the complexity of the brain,
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the future awaits.
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Thanks.
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(Applause)
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